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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 22 Jun 1995

Vol. 454 No. 8

Adjournment Debate. - Wheelchair Access to Public Transport.

I wish to raise the issue of wheelchair access Bus Éireann's urban, as opposed to Dublin, fleet and I thank the Chair for allowing me to raise the matter. Attempts to examine the problems of people with disability must focus on the interlocked questions of independence and economics. More than 90,000 people live with disabilities, a disproportionate number of whom live in poverty. Last year the Irish Wheelchair Association estimated that the unemployment rate among its members was almost 90 per cent, the highest in any group. The stark reality is that between 50 per cent and 60 per cent of people with disability live on or below the poverty line.

Poverty and dependence on public transport go hand in hand. People with disability face economic and social exclusion and their isolation is further exacerbated by lack of accessible transport, which in most cases involves public transport. This problem has been addressed recently in the UK where the Disabled Persons' Transport Advisory Committee made a number of recommendations aimed at improving accessibility, particularly wheelchair accessibility, to public transport.

In upgrading its fleet Dublin Bus has made substantial progress in this regard.

I understand that approximately half of its fleet conform to the recommendations of the advisory committee. However, only 12 per cent of its urban fleet comply with those recommendations and that figure will increase only with the acquisition of new buses. The information was given in reply to a question tabled by Deputy Byrne on 21 June. We can assume progress on the urban fleet will be painfully slow, that disabled city dwellers living outside Dublin are being discriminated against, effectively being excluded from public transport.

I am acutely aware of the problems faced by disabled people living in Cork wishing to travel from one part of the city to another. The overall problem of poverty will not be addressed unless we allow people access to employment. If a disabled person's mobility is restricted and he does not have access to transport he cannot attend an interview for a job.

I consulted some of my colleagues around the country. I have been informed by councillor John Ryan in Limerick that similar problems are encountered by disabled people in Limerick. There is urgent need to address the overall problem of public transport for disabled people outside the Dublin area in much the same way as it has been addressed within the Dublin city area. People with disabilities cannot await the introduction of new vehicles into the fleet. The time has come for Bus Éireann to take seriously the concerns of its disabled customers, of whom there are 90,000 either by introducting wheelchair accessible buses or implementing the necessary modifications to its existing fleet.

I spent the afternoon attending a joint meeting of the Select Committee on Social Affairs and the Sub-Committee on Development Co-operation of the Joint Committee on Foreign Affairs that dealt with social exclusion occasioned by poverty. Any examination of statistics on people with disabilities, the circumstances in which they fall into the poverty trap along with their unemployment rate must lead us to the conclusion that otherwise highly skilled educated people do not have the opportunity to integrate socially and have access to job opportunities.

I thank Deputy Kathleen Lynch for having raised this matter. The issue to which she refers is a matter for the board and management of Coras Iompair Éireann and Bus Éireann, a point stressed in the course of a reply to a number of parliamentary questions tabled on this issue yesterday, which I might bring to the Deputy's attention.

The question of wheelchair accessible buses is one to which the company must give careful consideration when deciding on the allocation of available resources to meet its customer requirements. Bus Éireann, as transport professionals, is fully conscious of the demand for services accessible to people with mobility impairments, including wheelchair users. It is also aware that it is the Government's policy that it and other transport providers, should seek to achieve the highest degree of accessibility to their services, having regard to the resources at their disposal. Consequently, in planning and operating its urban transport networks throughout the country, the company is committed to maximising accessibility while providing an overall level of service that is at once as comprehensive and cost-effective as possible.

I am advised that, since the establishment of the UK Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee — DPTAC — in 1985, Bus Éireann has ensured that its city bus specifications comply with the DPTAC standards, as evidenced, for example, in the ten new city single deck buses introduced in Cork City in 1993. The adoption of the DPTAC standards means that the user-friendliness of the urban fleet has already begun to improve and will continue to do so in line with the company's fleet renewal programme.

Of course, the implementation of these standards does not, of itself, meet the needs of those who are wheelchair users. Achieving this aim is recognised by Bus Éireann, and by the industry generally, as a major challenge, which poses significant practical problems. In the first place, the generally accepted solution is to introduce specialised vehicles of low-floor design. Unfortunately, as the market stands, I am advised these vehicles are estimated to be approximately 20 per cent more expensive than buses of conventional design normally purchased by Bus Éireann and the majority of other public transport operators.

Furthermore, I understand that vehicles of this type, in their present state of development, have mechanical and design characteristics which render them potentially unreliable, expensive to maintain and of uncertain longevity especially where road and street conditions are less than ideal.

A further consideration sometimes overlooked is that simply providing the buses will not solve the problem. Experience elsewhere shows that successful implementation of low-floor bus services also entails a programme of significant infrastructural developments, together with vigorously enforced parking restrictions, to ensure that the buses have complete freedom of access to the kerbside so that level-boarding can be guaranteed. Work of this nature could well prove to be even more expensive than the acquisition of the vehicles.

In the circumstances, and having particular regard to the company's statutory duty to balance a range of considerations in the light of available resources, Bus Éireann has advised me it has no plans at present to introduce wheelchair services as envisaged by Deputy Lynch.

The technology of low-floor buses and the economics associated with their purchase and use are constantly improving. At the same time, new lessons are emerging from the operation of wheelchair-accessible bus services in other countries. Bus Éireann is keeping these developments under review and in line with its commitment to accessible transport, will continue to review its fleet replacement policy in the light of technical and pricing developments in the low-floor bus market.

The Dáil adjourned at 5.10 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 27 June 1995.

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