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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 9 Jun 1998

Vol. 492 No. 1

Priority Questions. - Payments to Farm Women.

Paul Connaughton

Question:

5 Mr. Connaughton asked the Minister for Agriculture and Food if his attention has been drawn to the position in relation to the non-payment of headage, REP scheme and other grants to women who were farm owners and managers in their own right before they were married; the Department policy on farm women holding herd numbers separate to their husbands or partners; and his views on whether women should be allowed to farm in their own right and be eligible for the full range of grants if they meet the eligibility requirements laid down for all participants in schemes. [13567/98]

Government policies on equality are adhered to in all measures undertaken and all programmes, schemes and services of the Department of Agriculture and Food, including headage, REP scheme and TB and brucellosis eradication scheme grants. These payments are equally available to men and women, thus ensuring that there is no discrimination on the grounds of gender. The Department makes payments to all eligible applicants who comply with the terms and conditions governing the schemes regardless of their gender or marital status.

Where two or more applicants are associated, for example father-son or husband-wife-partner, the Department must be satisfied that their farming enterprises are operated as separate, individual economic units before grants can be paid. Where there is evidence that this is not the case they are treated as a joint application and their herds as one herd for the purposes of payment of grants. The EU Commission has indicated conditions and requirements with regard to the creation of new holdings in the context of premia payments. Likewise, there is no sex discrimination in the allocation of herd numbers. A father-son management team is required to meet the same criteria as a husband-wife-partner team when they propose to split an enterprise and create two separate units. Women should have the same entitlement to grants and premia and the different programmes operated by the Department if they meet the eligibility requirements laid down for all other participants.

There is huge discrimination against farm women. A fortnight ago an officer from the Department interviewed a husband whose wife was a farmer in her own right before she married. She married a man who had a farm and they continued to run their businesses separately. The official asked the husband if he helped his wife on her farm and if they shared machinery. The next question could have been what did they say to each other in the bedroom. It is outrageous. While the Minister may smile, the questions are contained in the document which has been issued by the Department to investigating staff. Officials of other Departments would not ask a couple if they owned two guesthouses before they were married. No one would ask them if they were helping each other and shared kitchen utensils. We have reached the stage where there is discrimination against farm women. This must be viewed in a poor light. I disagree with the Minister in that I regard it as blatant discrimination.

There is no discrimination. If an individual case is brought to my attention, I will have it examined. Gender should play no part. Women are well able to farm in their own right and they should be assisted in every way possible. If they enter into an arrangement by partnership or marriage, this should have no bearing on their eligibility under the various schemes.

I am surprised the Minister is unaware of this problem as several cases have been brought to the attention of the Department. Couples are asked to submit tax returns dating back to 1992 to ascertain if the units are being managed separately or as a combined unit. To obtain a herd number one has to meet three important requirements — one has to own or lease land, to own cattle and have proper handling facilities. There must be no intermixing of stock. Even those who meet all these conditions have had callers from the Department. The Minister is sidestepping the issue. Many women are of the view that they are not wanted in agriculture. That would be a disaster.

That is not the case. If an individual case or cases are brought to my attention, I will be pleased to follow them up. There is no gender discrimination.

Does the Minister accept that the questions are being asked?

I do, if the Deputy says so. Article 2.2 of Commission Regulation 3887/92 required member states to take the measures necessary to avoid the conversion of existing holdings or the creation of new holdings after 30 June 1992 as it leads to the improper avoidance of the provision relating to individual limits on eligibility for premia or set-aside requirements under the scheme. I agree with the Deputy that once it is clear there is no intermixing of herds, there should be no difficulty.

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