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JOINT COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS debate -
Tuesday, 9 May 2006

Humanitarian Aid in Chad: Presentation.

I welcome Mr. Brendan Nolan, founder of Wingspread International, to the meeting. I understand Mr. Hans Zomer, director of Dóchas, is present in the Visitors Gallery. I also welcome him to the meeting. Wingspread International is a voluntary organisation working with poor people in Africa and other parts of the world, helping them to lead a better, healthier life. It works mainly in Chad where it helps local people to grow food and source clean water. Other key areas are dealing with the crippling debt in countries such as Chad and the treatment of women and disabled people.

Before we commence, I advise Mr. Nolan that whereas Members of the House enjoy absolute privilege in respect of utterances made in committee, witnesses do not enjoy such privilege. Accordingly, caution should be exercised, particularly with regard to references of a personal nature. I ask Mr. Nolan to proceed with his presentation.

I thank the joint committee for giving me the opportunity to make a presentation on the situation in eastern Chad. I will give a brief overview of the work of Wingspread International which is based in the midlands.

Wingspread International is involved in community development in both Chad and Ireland. The complex links between human well-being and the process of globalisation, with the degradation of natural resources, produce profound challenges. Its strategy is based on the interaction of people, ideas and environmental education linked to sustained continuous mentoring and an intense professionally engaged supportive programme. It believes social education is the key to tackling many of the social, economic and environmental problems facing people in the developing world.

The approach taken by Wingspread International is not only to enhance material benefits but also to promote values such as group independence, stimulating and encouraging people to analyse local problems and find solutions through group solidarity to achieve project goals. The ultimate goal of the organisation is to empower communities to reverse rangeland and environmental degradation and restore biodiversity in the areas in which they live. Its activities embrace ecological issues and social concerns and were designed to show participants that environmental issues were a multiple constituent and that human well-being was central to sound long-term environmental sustainability. It is for this reason that our environmental work at community level must be informed and integrated into the wider global context.

Our priority area of work is eastern Chad, with particular emphasis on the Ouaddai province in which the current conflict affects a significant number of refugees who have come to the area. Chad is one of Africa's forgotten countries. It is landlocked, has a population of 6 million and, like Sudan and Nigeria, contains two cultures. The south is African, Christian and animist, while the north is Arabic and Islamic. While there has been a tendency by governments and the international community to view Africa in terms of separate countries such as Sudan, Chad and Nigeria, it must be remembered that many of the borders and frontiers date back to colonial days. Colonial politics continue to dictate some of the international community's decisions on Africa. The conflict in Sudan, which now affects the lives of millions of people in Chad, is not simply a Sudanese or an African problem, it is a problem of the Middle East. It is often forgotten that, like Egypt, Sudan is part of the Middle East and should be viewed in the context of the situation in that region.

Most Arab countries have low productivity and high birth rates and morale is very low. In Chad, Islam is in crisis and militant Islam has begun to spread from Sudan. The preaching in the mosques has become more aggressive and people have become more aggressive towards westerners in general. Sudan has a militant Islamic Government, which operates on both sides of the fence by supporting Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda while playing the game with western governments.

There has been an increase in Wahhabi teaching in Chad. Wahhabism spread from Saudi Arabia, across Sudan and into Chad and it teaches that a cosmic war is in progress against western, Christian societies. If one is a good Muslim living in Ireland or any other country and one wishes one's children to receive a good Muslim education, one will find that most Islamic schools and mosques are funded from Saudi Arabia. The teachings one's children will receive in such a school will be Wahhabi. Such funding arrangements have a direct bearing on the conflict in Sudan and the situation in Chad.

While Chad already faces environmental and political problems, a third problem has come into the equation in the form of oil. The latter was recently discovered in the Darfur region, not just along the Sudanese border but inside Chad. This has stirred the pot immensely. A company called ABCO, 30% of which is owned by the Sudanese Government and 37% of which is owned by a Swiss company, Clivenden, has just begun to drill in Darfur. The Sudanese Government's scorched earth policy, whereby it burns down villages and drives communities into Chad, is a direct attempt by the Khartoum Administration to control the Darfur region. The conflict in Chad is being exacerbated by the fact that the Zaghawa ethnic group, to which President Idriss Déby belongs, is also involved in the power struggle. The position of President Déby is very fragile following the recent attempted coup d’etat in N’Djamena, where the rebels were supplied with arms by the Sudanese Government.

President Idriss Déby stated that if the Sudanese Government does not curtail the activities of the Janjaweed militia along the border he will begin expelling all refugees from Chad by the end of June. Recently French fighter planes fired a number of shots at the rebels advancing on N'Djamena. The French Government stated it was a political signal to warn the rebels that it might not take a back seat in the conflict.

The other problem facing Chad is environmental. Care of the environment is very low on the international agenda. Wingspread International has been involved for a number of years with the United Nations Convention on Combating Desertification. Members of the organisation have been on the Irish official delegation to the UN convention. Environmental problems in the eastern Chad region are getting out of hand. Land degradation extends 50 miles around the refugee camps. We had to close down Wingspread International's rural development project because people were chopping down trees. The wells have been closed. Little or no crops were sown this year in the Ouaddai region because locals go to refugee camps for food and medical treatment, which is free. With the large influx of refugees, there is growing resentment among the Ouaddai population that refugees are being treated better than they are. The local communities groups are now fighting with the refugees over the limited natural resources in the area.

The Irish Government has shown little interest in Chad, perhaps because it is a former French colony and the language is French. However, Wingspread International encourages the Government to formulate a policy on North Africa as a whole, rather than concentrating on countries such as Sudan and Kenya which are Anglophone. Land degradation and desertification in the Ouaddai province is a very serious problem. The interaction of human activity, the natural environment and other factors causes land degradation and desertification which leads to poverty. There are more than 250,000 refugees in Chad and the number is set to grow.

A number of key actions could be taken by the Government, not just in respect of Chad but also in terms of the region as a whole. The Government could take a more people-centred approach to developing the drylands rather than giving undue attention to environmental crises. In the context of the United Nations Convention on Combating Desertification, many of the decisions involve crisis management. The militarist language of the convention, which talks about combating desertification, is being used to draw aid from governments. A more people-centred approach by governments is necessary in dealing with people on the ground. In the end, the conflict in the region is not only about oil and power politics. It is about people. Will the Sudanese and other governments involved in the conflict adhere to the peace agreement that has been signed? Over the past 30 years the genocide on the part of the Sudanese militia against people in the south has been carried out largely unnoticed by the international community.

I will finish on that note and thank the committee again for the opportunity to make this presentation.

I thank Mr. Nolan for his very personal contribution based on his experience, which is very valuable to us. He stressed that not enough attention is being given to Chad and referred to it as a forgotten country. He pointed out that there had been very few visits to Chad. That is something we will certainly note. Given that 80% of the people of Chad live on subsistence agriculture, the level of oil production that seems fairly certain to arise will, if used properly, give rise to great opportunities. That is something of which the committee is very conscious.

Mr. Nolan mentioned the concept of people-centred development. Members of the committee returned at the weekend from a visit to Ethiopia, where Irish Aid is running water management projects. When we saw them just over a year and a half ago, they were particularly interesting, but when we saw them on this occasion, they had progressed much further. Their effect has been broadened and the government there acted on the advice it received and set up a productive safety nets programme to try to eliminate famine and establish production of various kinds. The water management project is particularly important and has been very successful. There is also a very comprehensive strategy under way involving health programmes, education and so on.

Approximately €399 million was available from the export oil up to the end of 2005. It is predicted that Chad will have one of the fastest growing rates of oil production. That could lead to one of the fastest growing economies in the world, but only if programmes are designed to facilitate this. In that sense, it is a particularly important time.

The World Bank estimates that almost two thirds of Chad's population live in poverty. Agreement was reached at the end of April between the World Bank and the Government of Chad requiring it, as a condition of access to frozen bank accounts, to use 70% of its oil revenue to reduce poverty. Apparently, the bank account into which some of the money generated from oil was lodged has been frozen by the World Bank until such time as oil development benefits the people. In terms of timing, it appears one of the biggest factors involved. For this reason, Chad may be obliged to seek advice and assistance in respect of development programmes from agencies such as Irish Aid, which is currently involved in this area. I now invite members to pose their questions.

I thank Mr. Nolan for his useful submission. As in similar situations, it is depressing to hear about the magnitude of the problem faced by Chad. However, it is good to hear about it from someone with first-hand knowledge.

As the Chairman stated, oil could be the salvation of Chad. However, depending on how it is developed, it could be a millstone. There is no point developing the oil industry in a country that is impoverished, wherein people are starving and where war is ongoing if some way is not found to ensure that the resource benefits the economy. The simplistic view is that all such countries should benefit in their entirety and that international oil moguls should recognise this. However, I appreciate that this is an unreasonable thought. There is a moral and economic obligation to recognise that the countries from which resources are drawn should benefit positively from such activity. However, I do not know how that can be achieved. I note Mr. Nolan's comment in that regard.

My colleagues and I, one of whom is an expert on this issue, are conscious of the magnitude of the task faced by staff at the Department of Foreign Affairs when dealing with parliamentary questions regarding the African countries. We are concerned about the inability of the African Union to be of sufficiently positive influence in making a real and worthwhile impact in this area. This problem previously arose 20 years ago and again ten years ago, albeit under different masters and in a different format. The situation continues to obtain. I do not know what will be the answer. Perhaps the World Bank could adopt a more positive attitude. Those who make a positive effort must be recognised and rewarded for doing so.

I welcome Mr. Nolan's presentation, which again draws attention to the need for including studies at micro level as well as at macro level. People studying the situation in Africa are inclined to focus entirely on macro solutions, which have not been successful. Mr. Nolan referred to areas wherein there is desertification, namely, those where the soils have particular characteristics that limit what are seen as conventional opportunities. Communities have been using local wisdom for combining strategies for survival and so forth. The problem about the approach of the World Bank — I am not continually harping on about it — is that it has not incorporated knowledge based on local wisdom which has been built up over a long time and rather than indicative directive solutions has been inclined to go for solutions of the macro level. That is what is coming through in the presentation.

The programme emphasises the two sides of development education both at home and abroad, the gathering of the cartridges and its linkage to wells. I mentioned the issue of water. As a committee we have to bear in mind that the World Bank has some strategies in regard to integrated approaches towards river basin management which have accepted as a fundamental principle the privatisation of water and its delivery. That in itself is quite disastrous, yet it is not being debated in the parliaments where it should be debated.

There are three issues that strike me about Chad which are different from previous times. There is an urgent need for a strategy on animal replacement. The delegation knows better than I that along the chain of responses to extreme conditions as they arise is the sale of animals as an alternative to the loss of their lives because of inability to feed. That is a factor which seems to be more acute this year than in previous years and is certainly influenced by the absence of security and the displacement of populations, cross-border activities and the changed nature of a vulnerable food supply that has been dislodged in regard to its pricing structure by the presence of refugees and external people from aid agencies who have inflated the price of food and basic stocks.

The second issue is the seeds policy. I do not understand the ease with which genetically modified seeds have been dumped on Chad on different occasions when they had been refused in other countries. That would be disastrous for the management response. There is local wisdom as well as general objectives and scientific knowledge in regard to drought management and the management of responses. In regard to managing the planting season, part of the indigenous practice was that one could keep, as we did in Ireland, the bottom of the bag for planting in the new season, which is impossible in a genetically modified regime.

The delegation correctly mentioned that part of the educational problem includes micro credit systems. The World Bank, again under pressure, according to one of the IMF statements on Chad has been destructive of micro credit systems. The micro credit system is related to the seeds policy which, in turn, is related to local knowledge and the management of the water shortage. That in turn is part of the general question of the survival of animals. We are very near what would qualify as famine conditions if animals are lost. It appears that this year, in some regions, that is so.

I ask the delegation to forgive my ignorance as until today I had absolutely no knowledge of the existence of the organisation Wingspread International. While it is not the fault of the delegation, it might have been helpful if we had some background on how the organisation operates. I have no idea what it does other than what is contained in the briefing document on Chad, on which it touches lightly from a purely information point of view. For my own sake I would be grateful if the delegation could let me have some information. Perhaps it would be useful for the secretariat to have some information. I am aware of NGOs but this is a new one on me. I am not sure what it does in general, other than it seems to be specifically involved in development education, turning ink into water in a joint arrangement between schools in the midlands and northern Chad.

The remarks at the end of the document make for stark reading and raise serious questions. This is linked to the continuing scandal of Darfur and the appalling loss of life there. I am glad the American President has finally unilaterally decided to send a number of food ships to the region. He is to be applauded for doing so.

Mr. Nolan stated that, as a result of the pressures from Darfur and the increased number of aid agencies in the region, pressure is being exerted on Abeche, the capital of the Quaddai region. He also said some 200 expatriate staff are based in the town, that about 800 national workers are employed by the agency and that many national administrative and technical staff have left development projects in the region to take up higher paid positions offered by the aid agencies which are hiring people on the spot. This is disgraceful. These are the agencies which regularly come before this committee to tell us about the wonderful job they are doing, yet there seems to be an inter-agency competition to head-hunt experienced staff. We are also told that the clinic at Torani which is run by the project in which Mr. Nolan is involved has very few patients as most are going to the refugee camps for free medical treatment, also initiated principally by the NGOs. Patients attending the project clinic must pay a small charge which goes towards the cost of running the clinic and its upkeep, which is normal and reasonable, even in a country where 80% of the population are poor. The negative impact of the refugee crisis has been that one of the two national nurses who worked at the clinic had to be relocated to another part of Abeche, which means the ordinary poor, the indigenous population to which Deputy Higgins referred, are suffering as a result of the refugee crisis and ongoing civil war in Darfur.

Food prices in the town of Abeche and the region in general have risen by as much as three times, nearly making it impossible for the poorest to buy basic foods. I suggest this is due not only to the impact of some 250,000 refugees crossing into eastern Chad but also the work of some NGOs. The poorest are unable to buy basic foods, even though the refugee camps are well stocked. This is disgraceful and scandalous. The continuing crisis is causing local people to try to enter the camp posing as refugees. The local population has not engaged in any cultivation so far this year. Deputy Higgins and Mr. Nolan referred to desertification, an important issue, on which we do not have time to expand. This lack of cultivation will have a long-term effect on the economy of the region. This is outrageous and questions must be asked as to what the aid agencies are doing in terms of their impact on the indigenous population, food prices and technical and other experienced staff who have been working with the poorest of the poor, and whether any Irish aid agencies are involved and the Government is indirectly financing any of them. They stand accountable.

I have put my questions and made my statements in the context of the document put before us and would be grateful if Mr. Nolan could elaborate.

For places such as Chad the answer lies with local communities and in a return to traditional methods of farming which the people have developed over the centuries in what is a fragile environment. Recently at COP7 in Nairobi the World Bank launched its Terre Afrique project. This is a forum which aids the World Bank in carrying out its activities in different countries. The problem with World Bank programmes is that they do not consider the local context. These macro projects will not work if they do not take micro issues into account, for example in Chad. Farmers in Chad know best. Empowerment is not something that can be bestowed by the international community, it has to be self-generated. We have been on the delegation to the United Nations Convention on Combating Desertification for a number of years and we have the utmost respect for Irish Aid and the work it does. However, Irish Aid should adopt policies, even in the context of the European Union, that work more on a micro level. The World Bank should be encouraged to change its policies on programmes like Terre Afrique. It is a very large project and some €10 million will be spent in the first year just to get it up and running.

Wingspread International is a small non-governmental organisation that is mostly involved in scientific research and linking people and ideas. We are involved in environmental education. However, our project in Chad has been destroyed, our clinic closed down and our tree nursery ruined by the refugee crisis. This happened six months ago because a refugee camp called Farchana was opened nearby. Therefore, it was not worth keeping open. We had to let staff go and transfer others.

The United Nations Development Programme asked us to set up a mobile education unit to work with nomadic pastoralists in the area. Ministers and governments do not like to get involved in long-term projects, but places like Chad and Darfur need long-term commitment of between 15 and 20 years in order to tackle the problem of desertification. No Minister will put his name to a long-term project. A short-term project of three years, say, 500 wells in the Darfur area, looks great. However, Ministers and governments are almost afraid to approach projects dealing with desertification and land degradation.

Is that the Chadian Government you are talking about?

No, I am talking about the international community. This is the reality on the ground. We have had people in Chad working on teaching projects who were forced to leave their accommodation. We had one couple who were evicted from their accommodation after two years because people from Oxfam were paying three times the rate for the house. We are now considering adding environmental education to the curriculum in Chad and reintroducing traditional methods of farming coupled with intermediate technology in order that children will grow up with this new way of thinking.

Our programme in Ireland involves linking schools in the midlands with schools in Chad. We have a knowledge exchange programme. Even in Westmeath there is a shortage of water each summer. We have asked the children there to study the water shortage in the local context to understand something of what children in Chad are experiencing. It is a hook on which the children can hang the project. We are seeking to do the same in Chad. We will try to introduce environmental studies into the Chadian curriculum in order that the children can begin to learn about forgotten ways of farming and other systems that work in this fragile area of eastern Chad and communities will reintroduce these methods. That is the key to the problems in these areas. I hope that has answered members' questions.

There is a note at the bottom of the brief regarding Darfur and Ireland's humanitarian response, which I noted since I raised the issue of funding. A figure of €750,000 was provided in 2004 to the World Food Programme, Trócaire and Oxfam Ireland for emergency humanitarian projects. This amount included funding for projects in aid of the Darfurian refugees in Chad. The money could be used to increase prices in the local area, which is the point Mr. Nolan made.

That happens in wartime when goods are in short supply or unavailable. When money is made available to set people up or to house them, it creates a very difficult situation for everyone. Perhaps we should allow Mr. Nolan to conclude before members intervene.

I answered the questions.

We talk about the macro and the micro. Both are needed. If there is no macro plan, the micro plans will be constantly wiped out. Work must be done at both levels. What Mr. Nolan says about the micro plan is very important and true. However, there must eventually be a stage when stability is achieved. The first thing that is necessary is peace. The second thing people need is security and, arising from that, political stability. When those are in place, all the seeds that are sown — I do not literally mean seeds but am referring to everything that is being done — will flourish.

Political instability is one of the great problems and makes it difficult to achieve progress. I personally believe very strongly in the things Mr. Nolan mentioned regarding education and the work his organisation is doing. It is in that area that we do much of our work here. The macro economists do not recognise that to any great extent. I arrived at the view to which I refer over a long period, as did my colleagues. Deputy Tony Gregory is involved in Dublin's inner city and the other Deputies and Senators are involved in work in their areas. With the macro projects, one must build up the micro projects where people build up their self-esteem and their belief that they can do more and get involved in education. The two must go hand in hand.

As to what Ministers would or would not do, I do not think Mr. Nolan's view in that regard is quite correct. This is where stability must be achieved. When there is stability, it is possible to move from government investment to private investment and progress can then be fairly rapid.

The work being done is very important and it is interesting for the committee to hear about what is happening. We are more aware of the issues raised by Mr. Nolan and of what is happening in Chad. As he stated, not many delegations have visited Chad. This may relate in part to the political instability in the area. The joint committee has noted Mr. Nolan's points in that regard.

On behalf of the members of the joint committee, I thank Mr. Nolan for attending. Perhaps he will indicate how he became involved in this area.

I spent two years in a refugee camp in Darfur, western Sudan, in 1984. I then spent six years in Chad. I also worked in China for a short period and in Cameroon.

I hope Mr. Nolan realises that his spending time in the refugee camp in Darfur was responsible for the increase in prices there.

Is Wingspread International in receipt of aid from Irish Aid?

Has it applied for aid? Is it recognised by Irish Aid?

We applied for aid on several occasions but were turned down for various reasons. We are in the process of strengthening our institutional capacity in order to reapply for funding. We received funding for a development education programme in Ireland.

I ask that question in the context of Wingspread International's loss of experienced nursing staff and its administration of an important clinic that would appear to fall within the remit of Ireland Aid's activities. Other NGOs receive funding for similar medical projects. Has Wingspread International specifically sought to restore the staff through funding from Irish Aid? Is that an issue for the organisation?

We are self-generating in terms of funding. We drive a business strategy in terms of recycling cartridges, mobile telephones and so on.

I am not sure of the committee's remit in this regard. It may be the responsibility of individual NGOs to decide their priorities but I am sure members of the committee would be glad to support, in so far as is possible, Wingspread International in making such an application for aid.

One of the reasons money has not been invested in Chad is a number of programme countries have already been selected, including six in Africa and Timor-Leste and Vietnam in the Far East. There is much investment in other areas. However, Chad is not yet considered a major programme country. The committee will undertake to raise the matter with Irish Aid.

I thank the Chairman. I raise the issue in the context of the earlier statistic that €750,000 has already been allocated by Irish Aid to three organisations operating in the same area as Wingspread International.

I wish to be practical about what I said. When referring to the difference between micro and macro studies, I was talking about macro and micro economic studies. When we come to review this matter — we will be obliged to do so at some stage — it will be important to note that World Bank thinking and policies on Africa, some of which are well intentioned, have relied almost entirely upon economic studies. They have not drawn on the rich well of social anthropological studies on how peasant communities have used indigenous knowledge and tradition to survive in difficult circumstances, including dealing with soils, animals, water, seeds, alternatives to pesticides and so forth. That is what I meant. We need to debate why one particular strain of knowledge and thinking has informed policy exclusively. One need only search World Bank reports to see the source of knowledge available to us. However, we can return to this matter when preparing for the debate on the White Paper.

It is encouraging to note Irish Aid's recent commitment to environmental projects. One of the reasons we have not received funding is that Irish Aid does not have a field security specialist working in the Department and desertification is a specialised subject that must be examined not only in a global context — with funding provided in respect of it — but also in terms of somebody who is knowledgeable about the subject. That is one of the reasons we felt we were turned down previously.

University College Cork is involved in water management projects that are having a major influence on the land in Ethiopia. We have noted what Mr. Nolan has said in that regard.

I thank Mr. Nolan for attending and outlining the work carried out by his organisation. He will have noted that this matter is of considerable interest to members. We wish Mr. Nolan well with his work. We will certainly make the situation in Chad better known to Irish Aid and will give it a report on what has taken place here today.

The joint committee went into private session at 3.50 p.m. and adjourned at 4.05 p.m. until Tuesday, 30 May 2006.

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