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JOINT COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS debate -
Tuesday, 3 Apr 2007

Chernobyl 21 Years On: Discussion with Chernobyl Children’s Project.

I advise witnesses that, whereas Members of the Houses enjoy absolute privilege in respect of utterances made in committee, witnesses do not enjoy absolute privilege. Accordingly, caution should be exercised, particularly with regard to references of a personal nature.

We will now have a discussion with Ms Adi Roche, executive director of the Chernobyl Children's Project on Chernobyl, 21 years on. I welcome Ms Roche, Mr. Eoin Dinan, Mr. Michael Roden and Ms Miriam Forde of the project's board. I also welcome Ms Tara O'Connor, Ms Mary Aherne, Mr. Pat McDonagh, Mr. Noel Kelly and Mr. Pat Flynn who are in the Visitors Gallery.

As we have two presentations, I ask speakers to keep presentations to about ten minutes and that members keep their questions and comments as short as possible. Deputy Durkan was here at the beginning of the meeting but he had to attend another meeting in the House.

In just over three weeks, Thursday, 26 April will mark the 21st anniversary of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. That will be the time for the world to reflect on the consequences of the greatest nuclear disaster it has ever known — consequences worse than those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

While in geographical terms, Ireland is far from Chernobyl, Adi Roche and the Chernobyl Children's Project have kept us so close to the terrible human consequences that have flowed from the disaster. When I say we are far from Chernobyl, I recall that at the time there was an increase in radiation levels in the soil in Ireland which brings the event home, even at this great distance. One can therefore appreciate what it must have been like in Chernobyl.

Since its establishment in 1991, the Chernobyl Children's Project has improved the quality of life of thousands of young people affected by the fall-out from Chernobyl. For us in Ireland, the most tangible and visible outcome of the project's work has been the thousands of young boys and girls, innocent victims of Chernobyl, that the project has brought here for recuperative holidays. The project has ensured that medical and humanitarian aid has been given to those worst affected. The project's work has been made possible by the commitment of thousands of volunteers in Ireland. However, it is Adi Roche's selfless dedication and commitment that have driven the project. She has ensured that those whose lives were irreparably damaged by the Chernobyl accident have some hope and confidence in their future.

Ms Adi Roche

It is a great honour for me and for the organisation, the Chernobyl Children's Project, to be here among you today, especially as we are approaching the 21st anniversary of the world's worst nuclear accident, that horrendous calamity that befell many of the citizens of northern Ukraine, western Russia and, most particularly, the innocent people of Belarus. I refer very deliberately to the peoples of Belarus in the sense that they did not have the nuclear plant on their territory, but suffered simply by being a close neighbour of Ukraine, where the reactor was sited. Because the winds happened to blow in a northerly direction at the time of the accident, 70% of the radioactive fall-out moved up, over and down on the innocents of Belarus. The most horrendous of nuclear disasters unfolded on 26 April 1986.

Most of my research and experiences are rooted in the Chernobyl accident victims of Belarus, particularly the children. We have done extra work in northern Ukraine and northern Russia, but we have concentrated our focus on Belarus because it received so much of the fall-out. We have been dealing with the Government and officials of Belarus since 1991 and over that time we have earned a certain respect and acknowledgment that has facilitated our work in the field. In 1999 we had the great honour of being awarded one of the most prestigious Belarussian awards, the Francysk Skaryna Award, for contributing to humanitarian work for the child victims in Belarus. In 2001 we became the only NGO working in the Chernobyl field to achieve official United Nations NGO status.

The award from Belarus definitely opened many doors in our dealings with officials over the subsequent years. At times it has been a difficult course to steer between the clear waters of humanitarian work and the rocks of politics and bureaucracy. The committee will know and appreciate the political pedigree of Belarus. It was and still is a difficult time for Belarussians as they try to direct their country forward into a new age of prosperity and modernity. They are anxious to move on from the spectre of Chernobyl and they have a tendency to reassure themselves and visitors that the issue has now been settled.

The Chernobyl Forum report on the 20th anniversary of the Chernobyl accident perpetuated that thinking because it played down the effects of the accident. My colleagues and I in the project view this with a degree of scepticism and a certain amount of suspicion, bearing in mind Article III of an agreement signed in 1959 between the World Health Organisation and International Atomic Energy Agency. The agreement hinders the World Health Organisation in its freedom to produce material regarding the consequences of the Chernobyl accident without the agreement of the International Atomic Energy Agency. The stated primary objective of the IAEA is the promotion of nuclear power plants throughout the world. Asking the IAEA to research the health consequences of the Chernobyl accident is like asking the tobacco industry to research the health consequences of cigarette smoking.

That report is only a snapshot and not the full album of the consequences. To have the full album NGO expertise such as ours should be taken into account. Further snapshots should include the wealth of research and experience of medics, health professionals and scientists working on the ground in the affected regions and international experts such as the authors of the TORCH report — The Other Chernobyl report. These are Dr. Ian Fairlie, who serves on the secretariat of the committee of the Society for Radiological Protection and is an adviser to several UK Government departments and regulatory agencies, and Dr. David Sumner, a nuclear physicist who specialises in nuclear medicine. Other contributors are the very eminent Dr. Keith Bavistock, professor of health and ionising radiation in Finland. He was formerly head of the radiation protection division of the World Health Organisation.

I ask today what lessons we can take from the tragedy as we look back over the intervening 21 years. More importantly, what hope can we borrow from such a tale of woe that can inspire us to look forward? While this disaster is 21 years old, the consequences last to infinity. While other disasters are vying for the world's attention, the Chernobyl disaster has amost been relegated to history. If we do not remember past events, then we will surely make the same mistakes again. When it comes to nuclear power or nuclear weapons, we simply cannot afford that luxury. The people of the stricken regions of Belarus, western Russia and northern Ukraine have had to endure 21 years of living in what has become known as the world's most radioactive environment. They have been living with enforced displacement and evacuation. They have had to live with the world's complacency and ignorance, but worst of all they have had to watch their children being struck down. Every time a child dies, we lose a unique and special spirit.

I have seen at first hand the devastation caused by the disaster. I have held in my arms countless children who I truly and passionately believe died as a direct result of that terrible day. I am not a scientist or a medical expert but I am convinced these deaths, illnesses, traumas and heartbreaks are the direct consequences of the accident. I have seen the many deserted and poisoned ghost villages and towns. I have heard through my Geiger counter the drone of the radioactive death song of the land. I have travelled to the hospitals and orphanages where babies raise their twisted limbs and bodies, as if to cry out "Chernobyl did this to me". I have held broken hearted parents as they contemplate their ravaged son or daughter and heard them cry out, "Chernobyl is our 20th century Calvary".

Forgive me if I seem dramatic, but I am weary of sceptics asking me time and again to prove conclusively that a certain child died directly as a result of the Chernobyl disaster. I cannot, but I know that this child came from a highly contaminated village which does not exist any more, which is now completely covered in concrete, tar and cement, and has been removed from the map for the rest of time. I know that this village was located in the heart of a beautiful rural countryside which had no heavy industry and that this child developed medical conditions outside the norm in any reasonably healthy environment. Yes, I believe countless children have suffered and died as a result of the Chernobyl disaster. To me, the Chernobyl accident has been an ethnic cleansing machine that respects no borders, no peoples, no age, no class, no religion, from which there is no emergency exit and no escape.

The Chernobyl accident survivors are facing a demographic disaster where science cannot yet completely assess the consequences. We are now seeing genetic changes, especially among those who were just five and six years of age in 1986 when the accident happened. These people are now having families and we are witnessing the effects of the disaster move to the next generation. This silent but deadly killer — radiation — is threatening the gene pool and the future of the Belarussian, western Russian and the Ukrainian peoples. What a tragedy. It is a stain on human history.

Like so many other countries on the tank paths of the Second World War, poor Belarus suffered desperate atrocities at the hands of the Nazis during that war. They suffered again during Stalin's reign, and then they suffered the Chernobyl accident — all in the same century. Unlike war and its ravages, unlike hunger and disease, radioactive contamination poisoning will never leave Belarus and the other affected countries. Its worst outcomes will still manifest themselves in the many decades to come.

Many people wonder what future generations will think about what we have done to the beautiful, fragile gift of this planet. Even the horror of global warming seems mild in comparison with the mountains of nuclear waste that we have accumulated and cannot dispose of. Unless our descendants devise a way to neutralise the mountains of contaminated waste, they will condemn us as irresponsible nuclear joy-riders, who attempted to ride a wild but savage beast, bare backed, halterless and blindfolded.

Some of the medical facts are a 200% increase in birth defects since 1986, according to experts from the University of Hiroshima who analysed data on newly born babies; some 30,000 stillborn foetuses in Belarus; a 200% increase in breast cancer; a 300% increase in oncology illnesses among children in Ukraine; a 40% increase in all kinds of cancers in Belarus between 1990 and 2000; and a 2,400% increase in the rate of thyroid cancer in Belarus. In the Gomel region of Belarus, which is closest to the reactor, there has been a 100% increase in this cancer. The World Health Organisation predicts that 50,000 children will develop this disease in this region alone. The normal rate of thyroid cancer is one in a million. Between 30,000 and 60,000 excess cancer deaths are predicted worldwide.

The US Academy of Sciences has stated that even low dose exposure to ionising radiation can cause cancer. Chernobyl released 200 times that of the combined releases from the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The UN estimates that 7 million people in these three countries are affected by the disaster, half of whom are children under the age of four. The 7 million people living in the affected areas have received the highest known exposure to radiation in the history of the atomic age. About 5.5 million people, including more than a million children, continue to live in these radioactive contaminated lands. In Belarus, 2 million people, of whom 500,000 are children, still eat, sleep and drink in that contaminated zone of between one and 40 curies per square kilometre.

The Chernobyl Children's Project International is following the United Nations vision for going forward, particularly the need to assess current and predict future levels of human exposure and therefore contamination of foods and to take the necessary remedial actions and long-term counter-measures; to inform the general public in affected countries about the persistence of radioactive contamination in food products; to initiate large-scale monitoring of food, land and water projects; to further develop a system of environmental protection against radiation; and to move forward from a dependency culture through the creation and fostering of projects that are sustainable and long term, based on a developmental approach. We wish in the future to implement remediation measures and counter-measures in agricultural lands where poor soils have a high concentration of caesium transfer from soil to plants.

The Chernobyl Children's Project wishes to effect real change in the Chernobyl-affected regions. We are developing and facilitating long-term sustainable community-based solutions, providing effective principled humanitarian assistance, while advocating for the rights of the victims and survivors of that disaster. Since our establishment in 1991, we have gone from strength to strength. Through our efforts, the quality of life of thousands from the heart of the Chernobyl zone has been improved immeasurably. To date, I am very proud to say that we have donated €65 million worth of direct and indirect medical and humanitarian aid and have brought over 15,000 children from the heart of the Chernobyl zone to the heart and bosom of the people of Ireland.

The charity's efforts to relieve the suffering of those affected by Chernobyl have been made possible by the brave and unstinting commitment of thousands of volunteers from throughout our island who have given so generously of their time and energy. The project has developed aid programmes designed to give support and assistance to the victims and survivors to allow them to look to the future with hope and confidence. Irish Aid has come to our assistance in offering us advice, support and funding to help achieve our long-term objectives. For that we are so grateful.

I ask the committee to support our request for multi-annual funding from Irish Aid. This funding would allow us to concentrate our efforts on project work and not wholly on fundraising. The committee will appreciate how difficult it is constantly to have the begging bowl out, searching for finance and other resources to keep our charity alive. Good intentions are not enough and in this age, where there are constant demands on people's good will and purse strings, it is reassuring that the resources of our State can make funds available and lift any charitable organisation literally from its knees and propel it forward to a different level, where long-term quality work can be done, work that will last forever — not just piecemeal but solid, ongoing work. Any assistance the committee can give in this area would be most gratefully received.

In the same spirit, asking for the generosity of the committee, I raise another pressing issue. I returned this weekend with my colleague, Michael, from the Chernobyl area of Belarus. As part of our mission there, we had a series of diplomatic meetings and we were asked to act as an intermediary on behalf of the Department of Foreign Affairs of Belarus on the proposed intergovernmental agreement which they are now calling an accord. This accord relates to child protection and safety when children visit Ireland. This is an initiative we as a charity have lobbied for in Belarus for the past three years and I appeal to all parties to help bring this proposed accord to fruition. It would be such a noble task because we would be the first country to respond to this plea for support.

Over the years the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform has given tremendous practical support in helping us to move thousands of children from the contaminated zones to Ireland through the visa waiver scheme, which facilitated immediate clearance at Shannon Airport. However, in 2005 the Department withdrew this long-standing humanitarian facility. As a result, each individual child must have a visa issued by the Irish embassy in Moscow prior to travelling to Shannon. This is causing huge hardship and financial strain on local families and volunteer organisers. All of the children live a great distance from Moscow — it is actually a two-day journey, including a ten-hour train journey. The plight of the children, particularly those on the edges, in the asylums, orphanages or children from marginalised families in remote areas of the zones, is especially difficult and some children are being left behind. Can one imagine such a scene?

I am here today to beg earnestly that the committee should lobby at the door of the Tánaiste, asking that the facility be reinstated, given the hardships it has caused to the most vulnerable. The Tánaiste might revert to the original visa waiver scheme or employ extra staff to assist our already very hardworking embassy officials in Moscow who have been doing exemplary work throughout these years, so that they could travel to Minsk and fulfil the administrative tasks in situ.

I appeal to the committee to promote a world free from the scourge of nuclear power and nuclear weapons. In this year, the 21st anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster, the 62nd anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the various other anniversaries of nuclear testing fall-out contamination, in the name of countless victims of the nuclear cycle I appeal to this honourable committee to guarantee the citizens of Ireland a nuclear free future and to encourage our nation to promote and support a nuclear free world, both civil and military.

If the Chernobyl disaster is to have some meaning and value, if the disaster at Hiroshima and Nagasaki can triumph through history, then let them act as loud and strident warnings of the perils of nuclear dalliance. There are serious and sinister moves afoot to rehabilitate the nuclear nightmare as the world panics to shore up against the effects of global warming and shortages of oil, gas and petrol. Let wisdom prevail. Let the devastating effects of the Chernobyl accident be a byword for a technology that is beyond our control.

The effect of radiation on millions of people is ethically unacceptable. There is no precedent in the history of mankind. It requires a new way of thinking, a new vision of how best to respond. It is thus the duty of the international community to look after those people and we can be the torch bearers.

The half-life of our memory of catastrophes such as the one at Chernobyl is only a miniscule fraction of the half-life of those radioactive elements released on 26 April 1986. Friends, the catastrophe continues and is far from over. Both the direct damage caused by radiation and the equally significant indirect economic, social, medical and environmental consequences continue to affect millions of people. Let us take heed of the consequences, in the name of future generations. We remember that we do not own this earth; we are merely borrowing it for our children and our children's childen.

I welcome Adi Roche, Michael Roden and Miriam Forde. I pay tribute to the work of Chernobyl Children's Project International, with which I have been familiar for a very long time, as have many Members of the Dáil. Five years ago Irish Aid assisted the exhibition, Black Wind, White Land, in New York and here which drew attention to the devastation of Chernobyl.

What is now required is a more structured relationship between Chernobyl Children's Project International and Irish Aid, which I would certainly support. We should also try to resolve the chaos which has ensued from the new visa arrangements in Moscow. It is having a very interesting effect, not only in relation to the children. It means that many other Irish citizens in difficulty, some involving cases in my constituency which I have dealt with relating to marriage, family reunification and so on, have been at the back of the Chernobyl children's queue. We regularly receive letters to that effect. It is having a direct negative effect and an indirect effect in relation to the operation of the office in Moscow.

What Adi Roche has said is very relevant. There are three happenings which I think represent crucial changes in context. Very shortly there will be a meeting of the Nuclear Suppliers Group, which will take a decision on the US-India agreement. Ireland holds a crucial position because the Nuclear Suppliers Group operates by consensus. We can stop that happening. Having cleared the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee and the House of Representatives with the amendment last December, nothing stands in the way of the United States seeking such an exemption as would enable the agreement to come into existence. This will effectively mean that 14 of the 22 reactors in India will be available for inspection and the eight uninspected plants will be available for military purposes. That one context threatens us all. Second, there is the disgraceful decision by our next door neighbour to spend an enormous sum, £21 billion, on the renewal of Trident, which is another threat. In addition, the last inconclusive five-year review of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty has made very little progress.

These three circumstances make what Adi Roche is saying much more dangerous. I agree with all the facts she stated. The level of nuclear threat that remains on hair-trigger alert is 1,500 times the threat represented in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. A matter the committee will no doubt discuss on another occasion when we have more time is the need to make up our minds on the deterrence theory, which is related to the Trident debate. I strongly reject deterrence theory. It does not work and makes the planet more dangerous. Even for those who argue for the civil benefits of nuclear as a source of energy, the disposal issues have not been resolved.

There are still questions as to the degree of security that has been achieved at Chernobyl, particularly what I would see as the rather limited transparency of the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development's fund for ensuring such. We are represented by the Minister for Finance, but I have not seen a report recently as to whether progress has been satisfactory.

Another point relates to the attitude of the European Union towards Belarus. We need complex diplomacy to deal with this. Regarding the suggestion that we should wait until the European Union's criteria have been satisfied in relation to human rights, I see the EU seeking foreign direct investment rather than human rights. The evidence is not there that the European Union has pushed its human rights demands with the same fervour as it has pushed its demand for the opening of markets and the establishment of services. This is a pity.

The final point is the totally unsatisfactory attitude of the European Union to the threat represented by Iran. At the same time as people wish to avert their gaze from $100 billion of nuclear exports available when the United States sells its materials to India, people are ignoring the fact that a totally different strategy has been adopted in relation to Iran's operations, which are within the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty until it is proved otherwise.

Ms Roche is right in saying that the nuclear issue is at the centre of our concerns. Practically, I support the application to Irish Aid and the appeal to the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform to sort out the visa provisions. I do not see any difficulty with the accord relating to the protection of children. This is a fundamental that will flow logically from international legal obligations anyway, but it will assist in the practical exchange of children.

During my time in broadcasting, when Gay Byrne was the broadcaster par excellence, somebody once said to me in RTE that one never criticises a national treasure because one will never win. I could not help but equate that to Adi Roche, who in the general mind would be thought of as a national treasure. I do not mean to elevate her to sainthood, but I say without any sense of irony that I, like the vast majority of people who are aware of what she does, have tremendous admiration for the initiative taken at a time when it was not popular and maybe more difficult under the Soviet regime, who had a history of hiding everything. If my memory serves me, I think they did that for a considerable time, which perhaps exacerbated the consequences which have been so dramatically and emotionally outlined to us.

One of my sons who had a rather rare muscular condition, which thankfully he has now overcome, found himself in Temple Street Hospital and happened to be in the bed next to one of the Chernobyl children who was having treatment on his eye. We saw at first hand the impact of this, particularly on my son, then aged eight — he is now 14. I am sold on this project.

Notwithstanding what my distinguished friend and colleague, Deputy Higgins, has said, I have little tolerance for Lukoshenko's Belarus. I believe it is a pariah state which has trampled on human rights and shut down the independent media. On the other side, I understand the standard of living of the Belarussian people is perhaps a little higher than in some of the neighbouring countries. It reminds me of the Roman cliché about bread and circuses. It keeps people quiet. Through my membership of the Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly, I have met some of the most courageous and brave people from Belarus. I am surprised that they are still alive, such is the ferocity and evil of the Luko-shenko regime. That Ms Roche is working in that type of environment enhances my admiration.

It is right and proper that a very careful line has been steered because the organisation has presented itself as dealing with humanitarian issues, without straying into the world of politics. It has been dealing with officials since 1991 and I offer my congratulations on the prestigious Belarussian award. I hope there will be many other awards. Margaret Thatcher, at the height of her powers when she was paranoid about her enemies, would point to someone and ask, "Is he one of us?" Is Ms Roche aware in dealing with officials of the very real possibility that she could be exploited, in light of the fact that Belarus needs to put forward to the international community some sort of model to prove it is doing something good? How does she deal with that, without straying into the political arena? Am I right that they have been attempting to cast her in the role of intermediary with the Irish Government in particular? She is not a naive person; she is political with a small 'p'.

If I sound prejudicial towards the Belarussian administration, I make no secret of it. I have read enough to know how ruthless it is. It also uses the Chernobyl issue to gain international sympathy in its dealings with the European Union. It is not in compliance with ILO trade laws, but has pointed to the impact these would have on the Chernobyl area in terms of jobs and wages. The agenda is to use whatever it can to put itself forward internationally.

I have gone into the visa issue in some detail to try to gain an understanding of the context. I am not sure I can fully support the call for the reinstatement of the visa waiver scheme. The origin of this arrangement was legislation put forward by the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform to address the wider issue of human trafficking. Up to the time the legislation was passed a couple of years ago, group visa applications could be exploited for that purpose. The Department, in concert in our EU partners, decided to move on this issue, which had nothing to do with Chernobyl. It was unfortunate that there were consequences for the Chernobyl project.

It is a pity they did not bring in legislation specifically to deal with trafficking.

Am I right in suggesting that the Minister, on becoming aware of the consequential impact on the Chernobyl project, moved immediately to reassure the project that individual visas would be fast tracked in Minsk and sent by courier to the embassy in Moscow? I am not suggesting this is the ideal arrangement from the project's perspective, but I understand the system is working satisfactorily and there is no question of the law being changed. It is not aimed at the Chernobyl children. It is a wider European issue. I would not support outright the reinstatement of the waiver system, unless there is evidence to suggest that the initiatives of the project are being inhibited.

I certainly support the view that there should be increased resources at the Moscow embassy. I also support the concept of multi-annual funding and hope the committee will endorse that view. Without multi-annual funding it will be impossible for this organisation to operate effectively into the future in dealing with the long-term problems in this area.

I apologise for my absence during the presentation. I was obliged to be in the Chamber for Leaders' Questions. I support the provision of multi-annual funding. That type of arrangement has been made with other NGOs in recent times and we discussed it last week with the Minister of State, Deputy Conor Lenihan. I hope the same facility can be given to the Chernobyl Children's Project to enable it to plan in a more effective way.

Our guests will appreciate that members of the committee must leave from time to time to attend to business in other places. Both Houses are sitting at present and there is about to be a division in the Dáil. Their views have been very clearly set out and that is very helpful. There is general support for the concept of multi-annual funding and we will take it up with the Minister. They might expand on the type of support they are looking for.

I notice the accord is not finalised. That would provide for child protection and safety when visiting Ireland. This might help in relation to the visas. We will take up the visa issue with the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform.

I congratulate our guests on the book which has been produced. It would be a useful addition to school libraries. Chernobyl was an extraordinary event and it is important that people are reminded of it. There were some increases in radiation at ground level in Ireland. This illustrates that the whole world is interdependent.

Sitting suspended at 5.05 p.m. and resumed at 5.30 p.m.
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