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JOINT COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE, EQUALITY, DEFENCE AND WOMEN'S RIGHTS debate -
Tuesday, 24 Feb 2009

Treaty of Amsterdam: Motion.

The motion under discussion is that Dáil Éireann and Seanad Éireann approve the exercise by the State of the option or discretion provided by Article 3 of the Fourth Protocol set out in the Treaty of Amsterdam to notify the President of the Council that it wishes to take part in the adoption and application of the following proposed measures: adoption and application of the proposal from the European Commission for the recasting of the Eurodac regulation and the adoption and application of the proposal from the European Commission for the recasting of the Dublin regulation.

I welcome the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Deputy Dermot Ahern, together with his officials. The Minister will make a short presentation which will be followed by a question and answer session. I draw attention to the fact that members of this committee have absolute privilege but the same privilege does not apply to witnesses appearing before the committee. The committee cannot guarantee any level of privilege to witnesses appearing before it. Furthermore, under the salient rulings of the Chair, members should not comment on, criticise or make charges against a person outside the Houses or an official by name or in such a way as to make him or her identifiable.

I thank the members of the joint committee for making time available to consider this motion which relates to the exercise of the opt-in by Ireland to the proposals from the European Commission for the recasting of the Dublin regulation and the Eurodac regulation. Ireland currently takes part in the application of these two interrelated EC regulations which are now proposed to be recast. Accordingly, as will be clear at the end of my contribution today, it is proposed that Ireland maintains this position of full participation in the Dublin system.

The two proposals are presented pursuant to Title IV of the EC treaty and therefore do not automatically apply to Ireland or the UK under the terms of the relevant Amsterdam treaty protocol. The protocol provides that Ireland may opt into a proposed measure within three months of it being presented if it wishes to take part in its adoption. Ireland may exercise this option by notifying the President of the Council in writing. As the two proposals were adopted by the European Commission in early December 2008, time is now short for completion of the process for the opt-in so that Ireland may take part in the adoption of the two proposals.

Under Article 29.4.6° of the Constitution, the exercise of the possibility to opt into a Title IV measure is subject to the prior approval of both Houses of the Oireachtas. On 10 February 2009, the Government authorised the exercise of the opt-in to the adoption and application of the two proposals subject to the prior approval of both Houses of the Oireachtas. This is the business we are about here today.

The two proposals are subject to the co-decision procedure involving the Council of the European Union and the European Parliament set out in Article 251 of the EC treaty. The proposals are also examples of the use of the recasting technique pursuant to the Community's normal legislative process. Recasting involves the adoption of a new legal Act which incorporates in a single text both the substantive amendments which it makes to an earlier Act and the unchanged provisions of that Act. The new legal Act replaces and repeals the earlier Act. Under the terms of the 2001 EU interinstitutional agreement on the recasting technique, substantive amendments and new recitals are clearly distinguished from the provisions and recitals which remain unchanged. Accordingly, substantive changes are indicated by shadowed text on the documents presented by the European Commission.

The two proposals were included in a range of proposed measures in the field of asylum announced by the European Commission in its communication of June 2008 entitled, Policy Plan on Asylum: An Integrated Approach to Protection across the EU. In its policy plan on asylum, the Commission announced a package of proposals which aim to ensure a higher degree of harmonisation and better standards of protection for the common European asylum system. The Commission's action plan set out a three-strand strategy comprising: better quality and enhanced harmonisation of standards of international protection, particularly proposed amendments to the directives in the field of asylum dealing with reception conditions, procedures and qualification; practical co-operation, particularly a proposal for the establishment of a European asylum support office with the remit of developing practical co-operation between the administrations in the member states in charge of examining asylum applications; and promoting responsibility and solidarity within the EU and between the Union and third countries, particularly proposed amendments to the Dublin system, solidarity mechanisms within the EU and external solidarity including a proposed EU resettlement scheme.

In December 2008, as a first step in the implementation of its action plan, the European Commission adopted proposals for the recasting of the Dublin regulation and the related Eurodac regulation. In the European Pact on Immigration and Asylum, adopted in October 2008, the European Council expressed broad support for the Commission's policy plan on asylum. The European Council stated that it considers that the time has come to take new initiatives to complete the establishment of the common European asylum system, provided for in the Hague Programme, and thus to offer a higher degree of protection as proposed by the Commission in its plan.

The Dublin system consists of the Dublin regulation, the Eurodac regulation and their two implementing regulations. In an area without controls at the internal borders of the member states the twin problems of "asylum shopping" and "refugees in orbit" could arise. A mechanism for determining responsibility for asylum applications lodged in the member states was needed in order, on the one hand, to guarantee effective access to the procedures for determining refugee status and not to compromise the objective of the rapid processing of asylum applications, and, on the other, to prevent abuse of asylum procedures in the form of multiple applications for asylum submitted by the same person in several member states with the sole aim of extending his or her stay in the member states.

Arrangements for determining responsibility for considering asylum applications were initially part of the intergovernmental Schengen Convention. These arrangements were replaced with the convention determining the state responsible for examining applications for asylum lodged in one of the member states of the European Communities. This convention was known as the Dublin Convention. To support the operation of the Dublin Convention, a Council regulation was adopted in December 2000 for the establishment of Eurodac as a Community-wide system for the comparison of fingerprints of asylum applicants. In February 2003, the Dublin regulation was adopted to replace the Dublin Convention with a Community legal instrument.

In parallel with the association of several non-EU states to the Schengen acquis, the Community has concluded agreements associating these countries also to the Dublin acquis. Accordingly, in addition to the 27 EU member states, the Dublin system includes Iceland, Norway and Switzerland, and is intended to include Liechtenstein in the future.

The Dublin regulation was adopted in February 2003 and is considered to be the cornerstone of the common European asylum system. Its purpose is to establish the criteria and mechanisms for determining the member state responsible for examining an asylum application lodged in one of the member states by a third country national.

It significantly improved the Dublin Convention while being based on the same general principles, in particular that responsibility for examining an application should primarily lie with the member state which played the greatest part in the applicant's entry into and residence in the territories of the member states, with some exceptions designed to protect family unity. The Dublin regulation provides that an application for asylum or international protection lodged by a third country national at the border or on the territory of a member state shall be examined by a single member state which shall be determined in accordance with the hierarchy of criteria set out in Chapter III of the regulation. The member state responsible is determined on the basis of the situation obtaining when the asylum seeker first lodged his or her application with a member state.

The regulation provides that the member state responsible shall be obliged to "take charge" of an asylum seeker who has lodged an application in a different member state or to "take back" an asylum seeker whose application is under examination and who is in the territory of another member state without permission. The transfer of an asylum seeker to the member state responsible shall be carried out at the latest within six months of acceptance of the request that charge be taken. Where the transfer does not take place within the six months time limit responsibility shall lie with the member state in which the application for asylum was lodged. This time limit may be extended up to a maximum of 18 months if the asylum seeker absconds.

The proposal generally maintains the existing instrument which lays down member states' obligations vis-à-vis each other and member states’ obligations vis-à-vis asylum seekers subject to the Dublin procedure. The proposal also contains new elements in relation to the following: the scope of the regulation, which is to be extended to include subsidiary protection in addition to refugee protection; enhanced legal safeguards for persons falling under the Dublin procedure, including provisions relating to a personal interview, detention and an effective judicial remedy; enhanced provisions relating to family unity, unaccompanied minors and other vulnerable groups; greater clarity regarding the discretionary clauses allowing for derogation to be made from the strict application of the Dublin criteria for humanitarian and compassionate reasons; and temporary suspension of transfers in circumstances of particular pressure on the reception capacities of a member state or an inadequate level of protection in relation to a member state.

In December 2000 the Eurodac regulations established Eurodac as a Community-wide information technology system for the comparison of fingerprints of asylum seekers. Eurodac facilitates the application of the Dublin regulation in respect of applicants for asylum, third country nationals apprehended in connection with the irregular crossing of an external border and third country nationals found illegally present in a member state. The Eurodac system consists of the following: a central unit, established within the European Commission equipped with a computerised fingerprint recognition system; a computerised central database in which the data are processed for the purpose of comparing fingerprint data; and a means of transmission between the member states and the central database.

The proposal aims to improve the efficient use of the Eurodac database in relation to prompt transmission of fingerprints to the central unit, to update provisions relating to the management of the database and to unblock data on persons granted protection in a member state. The proposal aims to ensure respect of data protection principles and to provide for supervision by the European Data Protection Supervisor. In accordance with the Irish Data Protection Acts, the Data Protection Commissioner is the national supervisory authority for the purpose of Eurodac regulation.

The proposal also foresees the establishment of a management authority for the operational management of large-scale IT systems in the area of visas, immigration and asylum. This authority is to be responsible, in particular, for the Schengen information system, SIS ll, the visa information system, VIS, and Eurodac.

The Dublin system is a cornerstone of the common European asylum system and is essential to avoid the phenomena of asylum shopping and secondary movements of asylum seekers within the European Union. During 2008, a total of 271 asylum seekers were transferred from Ireland to other states in the Dublin system and a total of 86 asylum seekers were transferred to Ireland. This represents a significant proportion of the total number of 3,866 asylum applications in 2008.

The stated aim of the proposals is to increase the efficiency of the Dublin system and to ensure higher standards of protection for persons falling under the Dublin procedure. The proposals retain the same underlying principles as in the existing Dublin system, namely that responsibility for examining an application for international protection lies primarily with the member state which played the greatest part in the applicant's entry into or residence in the territories of the member states.

Some of the new elements now proposed by the Commission give rise to issues relating to the workability of the Dublin system in Ireland. During the course of the legislative process we will seek to address these elements, particularly in co-operation with our partners within the Council framework and with the European Parliament, to preserve the effectiveness and efficiency of the Dublin system.

It is considered in the best interests of Ireland to opt into the proposals in the initial three-month period to take part in negotiation of recasting the legal instruments underpinning the Dublin system. The alternative to not opting into whatever revised arrangements are adopted for the Dublin system would almost certainly result in the eventual exclusion of Ireland from the Dublin system.

On the basis of experience we know that this could lead to Ireland being perceived by international networks of people-smugglers as a favoured destination for claiming asylum in the European Union. Outside the Dublin system, we could expect a significant increase in asylum applications, either new or repeat applications, which are not well founded and which are made primarily for the purpose of gaining a foothold on the territory of an EU member state in circumstances where an immigration permission would not ordinarily be available. Such a development would place an additional burden on our asylum determination system, would add to the average time period for processing an asylum application and would delay the granting of protection to the minority of applicants who need it. Accordingly, I recommend to the Houses of the Oireachtas that the approval sought to opt into the two proposals be granted.

On behalf of Fine Gael, I support the Minister's application for approval. It is important that Ireland opt in with regard to this matter. My understanding is that this is for an initial period of three months to allow the negotiations to proceed and to allow the Minister to engage. I trust that the Minister will, at a future date, keep the committee informed of the negotiations with particular reference to the result of the negotiations and will consult the committee from now on. I agree with the Minister that the Dublin system is the basis upon which matters should proceed. I would welcome the setting up of the management authority and look forward to the Minister consulting the committee in the future.

On behalf of the Labour Party, I too support this initiative. I have a couple of questions on the issue of asylum shoppers. If somebody comes here having been refused asylum in another member state, and possibly having been refused on appeal as well, can he or she seek legal review of decisions? There seems to be quite an amount of frustration of decisions made in regard to asylum, asylum appeal and leave to remain on subsidiary protection or humanitarian grounds and quite a number of these end up in the courts. It this being used as a loophole or are the courts in general upholding the cases brought in terms of the Minister acting ultra vires by way of judicial review?

I thank members for their comments. I agree with Deputy Flanagan that the Department should return on a regular basis to update the committee on how the negotiations are progressing. Obviously we must opt in or out within the three months. If we opt in we will part of the negotiations. This must go before the European Parliament, and there will also be a debate on it.

Our participation in the Dublin II Regulation has been very successful. In 2008, 376 transfer orders were signed and 271 were effected, giving a success rate of 72%. In 2007, 362 transfer orders were signed and 225 were effected, giving a success rate of 62%. There was an increase of 46 cases or 20% in the number of transfer orders effected in 2008 over 2007, an increase of 10% in the rate of success for effecting transfer orders. In comparison with the transfers under the Dublin II Regulation, the success rate in regard to deportation orders is 21%. It shows that this is a much more efficient way because we tictac on a cross-member state perspective.

This leads to the issue raised by Deputy O'Shea in regard to asylum shoppers — if I misunderstood the Deputy, he may correct me. The courts here would not look into decisions that were made in other member states. Once they have had a determination in another member state and they are picked up here on the basis of making an application under the Dublin II Regulation or the Dublin Convention, this would kick in and they would have to be transferred back.

Can they have recourse to the courts in any circumstances if the State is seeking to send them back to the country where their application originated?

In effect, they can, but they have not been successful to date. They can always take a judicial review application in regard to any decisions the State would make, which is generally their entitlement in any case, not just in this area. By and large, however, the transfer under the Dublin II Regulation would not have been contested in court.

Are there circumstances in which the courts can overrule the intent of the Dublin Convention? In other words, can the courts prevent somebody being sent back to the country where the first application was made and has been refused or, where the first application was made and may not have been processed?

Much would depend on where the person was primarily located and where the primary application was made. These would be determinations that must be made in specific cases. If the person made an application but it was not processed in another country, and then made an application here, obviously, given the fact their primary application in effect was here, it would have to be determined here. That is what this recast regulation is about in that it seeks to try to ensure——

I am still not clear on this issue. If an application is made in another member state, and that person leaves the first member state before the application has been processed, what is his position if he applies here and it comes to light he has already made an application in another member state?

The person would have made the substantial, primary application here in Ireland, and this would be understood. If he made application in another member state and then left, that would not be regarded as the primary locus for his application to be determined as this would be in the member state where he was actually present. Obviously, if he moved from Ireland to another EU member state, that application would fall in Ireland and it would then transfer on to the other member state. He would be returned under the Dublin II Regulation to the country where he made the original application.

That was the point I was trying to clarify. Is that in all cases?

Yes, as long as he was within the system and as long as his information was correct. Sometimes people give different information. Fingerprinting is obviously the key to ensuring we have correct knowledge on people moving about. The figures speak for themselves. Fingerprinting throughout the European Union has been a great success in that many people arrive with an incredible number of aliases. I have signed deportation orders where there have been seven different names on the one deportation order because people used different names.

As we have now completed our consideration of the motion, in accordance with Dáil Standing Order 87 and Seanad Standing Order 72, the joint committee will report back to Dáil Éireann and Seanad Éireann to the effect it has completed its consideration of the motion. Under Dáil Standing Order 86.2 and Seanad Standing Order 74.2, the message is deemed to be the report of the committee. Is it agreed that there should be no further debate on the matter by Dáil Éireann and Seanad Éireann? Agreed.

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