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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 14 May 1992

Vol. 132 No. 10

Adjournment Matters. - Non-Governmental Representation at UN Conference.

I observe the letter, principle and spirit of the new arrangements in this House. The matter you have given me permission to raise is the need for the Government to include a representative of non-governmental organisations on the Irish delegation to the UN Conference on the Environment and Development to be held in Rio de Janeiro in the first two weeks of June.

This conference is called the earth summit which is an appropriate title given what it hopes to do. It is no exaggeration to suggest that it could be the most important conference not of the year but of the decade because of what it addresses. It will attempt to address fundamental threats to the quality of the earth's environment, such as global warming with consequential risk of flooding, erosion and indeed difficulties for many nations in feeding their population. Depletion of the ozone layer will be discussed together with a number of other issues, such as bio diversification.

Many developing nations are afraid that the theme of this conference will be the protection of the environment as it is now following its exploitation by the rich north often at their expense. We could be accused of trying to protect ourselves at their expense from the damage our excessive self-indulgence has caused to the earth's environment.

Arrangements will have to be made — as I am sure Members will agree — to ensure that the Third World does not end up paying for our excesses. It would be a considerable disaster if it did which is where the other side of this conference comes in. The conference is not just about the environment but about development and in particular the development of those countries that remain undeveloped. Ireland remains under-developed relative to the rest of Europe but we are more developed than three quarters of the world.

When I talk about development here I am not debating whether Ireland will cohere and converge with the rest of Europe but whether all people in future will have the resources to feed themselves and their children, live in decent housing, avail of education health care and other minimal provisions. Many people are worried that the developed world, the north effectively, is making demands on the rest of the world which will damage its environment and guarantee the perpetual impoverishment of whole nations.

The international debt crisis of the developing world is one of the prime reasons for the frightening destruction of the rain forest. There is overwhelming pressure on developing countries to find hard currency to pay off the debt they were encouraged to incur in the days of a different economic orthodoxy. They were encouraged to borrow when real interest rates were negative but when rates turned positive, debt became a crushing burden. The generation of cash crops causing destruction in the rain forest began in response to the north's demand for those products and for repayment of debt in hard currency. To repay state banks and private institutions in the north some of the world's most precious resources have been destroyed.

With issues of development tangled up in the environment question it comes as a surprise that Ireland's delegation will not have any representation from the organisations most vocal in educating the Irish public about the devastation of the environment of the developing world. We will be represented by the Taoiseach, the Minister of the Environment and possibly the Minister for Foreign Affairs, an impressive testament to the priority awarded this conference by the State. It would be more impressive, however, if the delegation included representatives of organisations which Government Ministers at other times are prepared to praise to the skies.

Non-governmental organisations have educated the public and raised resources here to fight these issues and the Irish are in proportion to GNP the most generous country giving voluntary aid to the developing world. We have the least generous Government perhaps but the most generous people. Their achievement is unquestionable and it is reasonable to ask the Government, why they leave out Irish non-governmental development organisations who have contributed enormously to the education of the Irish public and who have worked effectively with Government with an extraordinary degree of responsibility? One can only conclude that the Government have decided they know best on this issue and need none of the advice, expertise and assistance of the NGO.

Apart from the quality and importance of the work of the NGO and their historical contributions here and overseas, there is the question of the seriousness of this Government's vaunted commitment to transparency. Why do they not want to share their secrets, views, positions and indeed their delegation with representatives of non-governmental organisations? Why can eight other members of the European Community include representatives of non-governmental organisations while our Government rigorously proclaiming their transparency, exclude them? I invite the Minister to give a reason and since I do not believe it will be a convincing one, can he at this stage allow one of the 12 person delegation to be nominated by a vital force in Irish people's growing awareness of the link between environment and development?

I thank Senator Ryan for the opportunity to deal with this matter.

A full debate on UNCED was held in the Dáil last week. It acknowledged the historic importance of UNCED, the significant contribution of Ireland to the preparations involved and the Government's commitment both directly and under EC co-ordination to work for a successful outcome to UNCED. I would like briefly to recall to the Seanad Ireland's considerable input so far to UNCED preparations.

We have participated at all four major preparatory committee meetings for UNCED, including the last one in New York in March at which I presented the conclusions of the Dublin conference on water and sustainable development. We have also participated in all EC and OECD preparations for UNCED, including relevant EC Councils, an OECD meeting attended by the Minister for environmental protection. Ireland's particular contribution to UNCED preparation was to host a major UN conference on water and sustainable development in Dublin in January 1992. This conference was directly mandated by the UN to make an input to UNCED on fresh water policies. My Department have published a national report for UNCED which has recently been submitted to the UN authorities and circulated to Oireachtas Members.

The UN General Assembly Resolution establishing UNCED included an invitation to all states to promote broad based national preparatory processes involving the scientific community, industry, trade unions and concerned non-governmental organisations. The primary role envisaged by the UN for these bodies was, therefore, in the preparatory process for UNCED. Consistent with the UN request, my Department consulted a wide range of organisations including environment and development NGOs in preparing the Irish national report, but the Irish Government have gone well beyond the UN invitation in their support for NGOs to become involved in UNCED. In March 1992, I informed the chairman and the Irish ad hoc environment and development NGOs liaison group that I wished to encourage broadly based Irish participation at the 1992 global forum for NGOs which takes place in Rio in parallel with the intergovernmental conference. This global forum has been endorsed by Mr. Maurice Strong, Secretary General of UNCED in the following terms:

The forum represents a unique challenge for all groups that are committed to changing the course of human history. It provides them with an opportunity to agree their own agendas and establish their own courses of action over the next decade to complement and supplement the role of governments in implementing agenda 21.

I told the chairman of the NGOs group that I would be contacting representative bodies for industry, trade unions, women, farmers and local authorities to encourage their attendance at the global forum. I have since written to these bodies for this purpose.

In recognition of the particular interest of environmental organisations, I offered these, through an ad hoc group, a grant of £10,000 to assist attendance at Rio. This was matched by a similar offer from the Minister for Foreign Affairs of £10,000 for development organisations. I would like to emphasise that this is the first time, to my knowledge, that environmental organisations in Ireland have been granted sponsorship of this kind and that in a sense they and the development organisations have received it in preference to other organisations who also have a valid and substantial interest in the UNCED process.

The ad hoc group made a case to me based on precedents in certain other EC member states that NGOs should be represented on the Irish delegation to the intergovernmental UNCED conference. I examined the approach in all other EC member states and there is no definitive pattern. Some member states are, indeed, granting a degree of participation to NGOs in their official delegations. Others are not or are including parliamentarians only. At least one other member states is adopting Ireland's approach of sponsoring NGO participation at the global forum.

These various arrangements understandably reflect differences in the parliamentary or other decision making structures in member states and in the varying degree of involvement of different groups in UNCED preparations.

I have recently confirmed to the chairman of the ad hoc NGOs group that we do not propose to have NGOs participate in the official Irish delegation. I have, however, guaranteed full liaison between the official delegation and the NGO group both during and in the run up to Rio and I have agreed to meet the NGOs next week for this purpose. The chairman on the NGOs group has confirmed to me on behalf of the group that the Irish NGOs will be happy to play as full a part of UNCED as possible and intend to co-operate fully with the official delegation. I am pleased that the chairman has been able to accept the assistance accordingly.

It would be invidious if organisations on behalf of whom these arrangements were agreed in good faith were now to profess dissatisfaction with them. I say this having particular regard to the fact that my Department have been asked by other interested organisations for financial support to participate in the global forum but are unable to assist because the grant has been fully allocated. It will be clear to Senator Ryan that we have given specific and preferential treatment to the NGOs. Everything I have said has been agreed with them and they will participate fully. I will be meeting with them next week to discuss the final arrangements so that we can have the fullest possible liaison and the best possible outcome will emerge.

The Senator will also appreciate that having written to other organisations which are clearly interested in this conference — I am not in a position to offer anything like the same kind of financial support, in fact I am not able to offer them any support at all. If we were to go down road advocated by the Senator, I would have to go back to the start and try to share out the financial resources between all the competing organisations. I do not thnk that would be the Senator's wish and we have gone as far as we can to make sure that the liaison, the financial support systems and the developments at Rio are based firmly on the highest possible level of co-operation. I do not think we can go further than that at this stage.

Why would they not agree to co-operate with the Minister? What choice have they? I agree he has funded them to go to a parallel conference, but they will not be part of this delegation. That devalues their role.

Are any members of local authorities going to the conference?

We have written to the General Council of County Councils and are awaiting their response.

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