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Seanad Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 14 Dec 1993

Vol. 138 No. 13

Adjournment Matters. - Funding for Society of St. Vincent de Paul.

Thank you for allowing me to raise this important matter on the Adjournment. I request that sufficient funds be given to the St. Vincent de Paul Society this Christmas. I believe the Minister for Social Welfare, not the Minister for Finance, is responsible for this allocation. I appreciate the Department would prefer this debate to take place a day or two later but I have no guarantee that my matter would then be selected for the Adjournment. One must accept the decisions of the House as they are taken. I thank the Minister for being present for this debate.

The year ending 31 March 1993 was a most difficult one for the society as its expenditure increased by 26 per cent, from £11.7 million to £14.649 million. In its report it states this increase is due mainly to the provision of services and moneys to many of the hundreds of thousands who are unemployed. The society's job creation programme — I was not aware it was involved in job creation — helped over 1,100 people set up their own enterprises by providing them with consultancy advice and financial assistance. The people who contribute to the society are to be complimented and they know the money is used for productive purposes.

The society's report outlines its sources of income. It received £4.5 million from church gate collections, £1.864 million from fundraising and £2.7 million from subscriptions. Its total income was about £9.5 million. The society received £1.4 million in State grants which included a special allocation of £1 million provided by the Minister for Social Welfare last year. I was surprised at the range of activities undertaken by the society. It spent £1.5 million on food and £4.4 million on providing cash assistance. When one considers the work of the community welfare officers throughout the country, one gets an idea of the seriousness and extent of poverty among families. Training and development, the provision of clothing, furniture and fuel, publications, job creation and holiday management courses are among the society's wide range of activities. Last year the society provided holidays for 2,000 or 3,000 children. It provided 182,500 bed nights during the year. If the State had to provide this service I do not know how it could do so. I read recently that the society will require £4 million this Christmas. I know it had collections throughout the country recently and that people were as generous as ever.

I am sure a substantial number of those who are helped continuously by the society take part in the national lottery each week. A recent report on the national lottery showed people on lower incomes buy a large number of lottery tickets. It is only right that the Government should use some of the £70 million it receives from the national lottery to help the society. None of this money is being reinvested through the local authorities, which was proposed. The bulk of it is spent on health, with which we do not disagree. Lottery funds have been provided by Ministers to organisations which did not apply for them. An investigation would show that much of the work for which these funds have been provided has not been completed.

A sum of at least £2 million should be provided to the society before Christmas. It has a turnover of about £15 million and helps those in need by providing badly needed services which the State could not adequately provide. I hope that raising the matter in the House gives some comfort to those who work long hours, day and night, during winter and summer, collecting funds and distributing them to families in real need. I hope that the Government will look on this favourably as it receives substantial funds every week from the national lottery, partly contributed by these people in an attempt to improve their circumstances.

I thank the Cathaoirleach for giving me the opportunity to raise this matter and the Minister of State for being here to reply. I hope, for the sake of the thousands of people whom the Society of Saint Vincent de Paul will help, he will have some good news this Christmas.

I thank Senator Farrelly for raising this important issue and compliment him on his genuine concern for the less well off in our society.

I am aware of the tremendous work done by the Society of Saint Vincent de Paul, one of the major charitable organisations. I am impressed by this work and I agree with the sentiments expressed by the Senator. I appreciate that at this time of year the demands on the society are greater because of the extra expenditure which arises for families at Christmas.

Over the years, the Minister has had a close working relationship with the Society of Saint Vincent de Paul and I too appreciate the unstinting work done by the society in practically every parish. The society is synonymous with the practical help and advice it provides to the needy and disadvantaged in our community.

As far back as the 1988 budget, the Minister was pleased to be able to provide funding of £100,000 to enable it to undertake a major nationwide project of home management and personal development. In 1990, a further £100,000 was allocated to enable it to continue and expand these courses. As a result of the success of these courses, the Government in 1990 gave a special allocation of £500,000 to the society to undertake a major development programme, including creating employment opportunities.

The Department of Social Welfare is involved in the welfare of people in the broadest sense and, therefore, voluntary organisations such as the Society of Saint Vincent de Paul will continue to be beneficiaries of grants to further its work in this way. Tomorrow the Minister will move a Supplementary Estimate for his Department to provide the necessary accounting arrangements to enable him to allocate additional funds for voluntary and community activity this year. The allocation of the amounts involved is being finalised at present and details will be announced soon. The Senator can take it that the Minister will bear the Society of Saint Vincent de Paul in mind in considering how this extra money can best be allocated to meet the needs of the disadvantaged in our community.

The Seanad adjourned at 9.25 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 15 December 1993.

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