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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 22 Nov 1995

Vol. 145 No. 7

Adjournment Matters. - Mullingar Barracks.

I thank the Minister for Defence for placing himself at the disposal of the House to debate the serious situation facing the barracks in Mullingar. I am calling on him to maintain Columb Barracks at present staffing levels and I am seeking an assurance that these levels will be maintained.

We are all aware of the importance of a good employer in any town or village, particularly in the midlands. The midlands are not the place people seek to visit on holiday, despite the presence of many fine lakes in County Westmeath. Mullingar, the capital of the midlands, has a population in excess of 13,500 people and its Army barracks, which employs between 200 and 220 people, is a major employer in the town. This is about the Government cheque coming in every week and the security of having a State employer situated in the town of Mullingar.

Over the last number of years we have witnessed the effects of decentralisation in various towns around Mullingar but the town was not as fortunate and no Department was established there. All the other towns in the midlands and practically all around Ireland were fortunate enough to receive decentralised Government offices so the Minister can see how important this employer of over 200 people is to Mullingar. To put it in its proper context, it is as important to Mullingar per head of population as the loss of Ford to Cork or Digital to Galway. It is an extremely important employer in Mullingar.

We have been concerned that in north-west Meath and Mullingar barracks have been run down over the last while. I ask the Minister to clarify the situation and give an assurance that our worst fears will not be realised. I ask him to respond to RACO, the Army officers organisation. Last week it named nine military barracks which they say may close following their analysis — and I accept it is their analysis — of a report which is to come before the Government. Once more there have been denials that Mullingar is going to close. The forecast has been dubbed as speculative but Mullingar needs an assurance because we all know from experience that there is never smoke without fire.

The closure of Columb Barracks would seriously damage the economic future of Mullingar. Despite all the best endeavours of our chamber of commerce, our town's trades committee and all the other people who have been trying to keep employment in Mullingar over the years, they are extremely concerned about the rumour and innuendo which are circulating, particularly from RACO.

Last Tuesday week, the supply and transport people were told by a high ranking officer that it was possible they would be transferring to Athlone. Over the last number of years we have seen various services being transferred to the Curragh. As the Minister knows, I frequently come before the House on the Adjournment to raise matters of a serious nature in the area I represent and I am glad to see Senator Belton, a near neighbour, here to listen to the concerns of the people of north-west Meath and Mullingar.

The other point on which we seek clarification is why there is no recruitment being undertaken in Mullingar. We are told of the numbers to be recruited. We are told a redundancy package will be offered which is attractive to people in their mid-40s and early 50s. However, if the personnel in Columb Barracks in Mullingar opt for redundancy, what assurance can the Minister give that these positions will be filled? Recruitment in our area leaves a lot to be desired to say the least.

Is the Western Command Band Leader being transferred to Cork or is he transferring of his own accord? If this is the case, is there anyone available with the necessary expertise to keep the Western Command Band in Athlone? If there is to be recruitment, I understand between nine and 11 members of that band would be favourably disposed to accepting a redundancy package if the terms were agreeable. In that context and from my experience as a musician, I understand the expertise will not be available in the Army to maintain the band in Athlone.

These serious questions are being asked. I can assure the Minister it is not scaremongering. Employment in our area is a scarce commodity. Let us look at two parishes. Castletown-finnea's population has fallen by one third in seven years and four of the last six funerals there caused four houses to be closed. In Coole, County Westmeath, 80 jobs have been lost in Bord na Móna, 63 in forestry, the hospital closed a number of years ago and the Coole-Whitehall parish population has decreased by in excess of 28 per cent. The Minister can see the serious situation we face in north-west Meath with the future of an employer such as Columb Barracks at risk.

I thank the Cathaoirleach for allowing this matter on the Adjournment and await the Minister's reply.

I welcome the opportunity afforded me to clarify the present position regarding the review of the Defence Forces by replying to this matter which is raised on the Adjournment this evening. It enables me to deal once again with some issues which have given rise to misconceptions surrounding the whole Efficiency Audit Group process.

In July of this year the Government announced its response to the report of the EAG on its review of the Defence Forces and published a document detailing the EAG report and setting out the Government's approach to the reorganisation. The Government did not announce any decision in relation to Columb Barracks in Mullingar or, indeed, any other barracks in the country. I might mention here in passing that in 1988 the then Government initiated a study on military barracks and certain proposals in relations to closures were made but were subsequently not acted upon. As regards the current review, I have made it clear on numerous occasions since the announcement of our decision that there are no plans to close any barracks in the country.

The Government has embarked on a major reform of the Defence Forces aimed at increasing the efficiency and streamlining the structures and organisation. The programme, which will be phased initially over a three year period, has as its objective the development of the Defence Forces as a modern organisation, staffed and equipped to effectively fulfil the roles assigned to them.

An implementation group has been established to oversee the programme of reform and it will prepare a fully costed plan covering the first phase and setting out the detailed action to be taken over the next three years. The first phase will be concentrated on the internal organisation of the Defence Forces and on addressing the age profile. It will include a voluntary early retirement scheme. There will be an enhanced operational role for the new organisation with no reduction in the numbers of personnel who will be available for such duties. That plan will be presented to me shortly.

With regard to the position of individual barracks, I have made it abundantly clear on more than one occasion in the past few weeks that only at the end of the planned three years of the implementation process will the accommodation requirements be examined and therefore the question of barracks closures does not arise. I repeat that this does not imply automatic barracks closures.

This review should not be seen as a cost cutting exercise. This review is not being carried out in order to produce a programme of cutbacks and closures. Key words which appeared in the EAG terms of reference were "feasible", "efficient", "effective", "optimum" and "appropriate". Optimum implies best for achievement of a result. This is precisely what the Government wants for the Defence Forces; an organisation that is best suited for the discharge of assigned roles.

As I mentioned already, a key objective is to release more personnel for operational duties. I know that this is what the military personnel themselves want. The process of change will evolve over a number of years at a pace which will ensure that while momentum is maintained, the changes can be successfully accommodated by the organisation. Recent media speculation has created the impression that a range of measures which would affect the organisation and deployment of military personnel would be introduced overnight. Nothing could be further from the truth. Issues will be tackled in such a way as to minimise disruption for serving personnel. Due cognisance will be taken of people's circumstances and measures will be adopted to address those issues.

I am acutely aware of the importance of a military installation to a town such as Mullingar. Both Deputies McGrath and Penrose have been constantly in touch with me on this issue. What I said to them is precisely what I am saying to this House this evening.

Was Deputy O'Rourke in contact with the Minister?

No. Deputy O'Rourke has not been in contact with me directly. I am mindful that there are important human, social and economic dimensions to the process of reform. These issues are of course more accentuated when dealing with military installations in the provincial and smaller towns and the Government will take due cognisance of that fact.

I would like to repeat that the overall objective for the Defence Forces is to develop a modern, efficient, organisation staffed and equipped to fulfil the roles assigned to them by Government. This objective is in the national interest; it in the interest of the Defence Forces themselves and it is an objective which is supported by all sides of the House. I have made it clear all along that there will be an extensive process of consultation. This process has been underway for some time now. It goes without saying that there will be no compulsory redundancies.

My priority is to ensure that any changes will be for the better of all personnel. Unwarranted speculation of the nature we have seen over the last few weeks is just unacceptable. I am conscious that this type of speculation is deeply worrying for many families of individuals engaged and employed in the Defences Forces. These people have mortgages and children in school and such speculation is deeply upsetting for them. I ask that those people who engage in this wild speculation cease to do so, even in the interests of the families I mentioned. Co-operation is the key to the success of this process.

Will there be recruitment after the redundancies to fill the vacancies?

The object of the exercise is to address the age profile problem. This will be done through voluntary redundancies and recruitment which will take place over the three year period. We are addressing two problems: we are bringing the number down to 11,500 and we are also deeply concerned that the age profile be addressed.

The Seanad adjourned at 8.25 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 29 November 1995.

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