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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 1 May 1996

Vol. 147 No. 2

Adjournment Matters. - Delay in Brucellosis Test Results.

I thank the Cathaoirleach for allowing this Adjournment Matter and welcome the Minister of State to the House. Sometimes these matters are unsatisfactory because the Minister comes in with a prepared briefing. I ask this Minister to answer the questions I put to him, irrespective of whether they are dealt with in his notes.

Hardship is being caused to farmers who, because of industrial action in the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry, cannot obtain movement permits to which they are entitled and consequently cannot sell their stock, which is one of the most acute but sadly not the only problem caused. This industrial action has led to chaos in the services administered for farmers. The permits are needed to certify the disease-free status of herds for TB and brucellosis.

The Minister may say there is no need for a free movement test because of his senior Minister's new scheme, but that is a fiasco. Farmers will not buy stock, especially dairy stock, unless they know it is disease-free. At present they cannot trade and for months they have held back stock because of the appalling price on offer. The history of and reason for this position have been minutely documented in this House — the slashing of export refunds last autumn and the BSE crisis which swiftly followed have been the subject of considerable debate, mainly initiated by Fianna Fáil. The net result for farmers was a catastrophic drop in cattle prices.

I wish to share my time with Senator Byrne.

An Leas-Chathaoirleach

Is that agreed? Agreed.

If Senator Dardis would like some time also, he is quite welcome.

It is ironic that farmers who could not sell cattle because of the closure of foreign markets now cannot sell them because their herds are locked in by the Department. Some calves held by the Department broke down in disease and will not be released. These have been held for up to two months. Will the Minister instruct the district veterinary officers to release tomorrow the results of whatever tests are carried out? It must be done immediately rather than next week. I want the Minister to give a positive reply.

It would be impossible to pick a worse time for this fiasco. On top of an incomes crisis farmers now have to endure a cash crisis. The number of farmers in financial difficulties is growing daily. I again plead with the Minister to take the crisis cases out of the administrative quagmire. Farmers have been put in this intolerable position through no fault of their own and the least the Minister can do is to ensure a special channel for the most desperate cases.

This is a far cry from the promises in the farmers charter, which was launched with such euphoria one would think they would never have a bad day. Where does the charter stand now — has it gone out the window? Farmers who cannot sell their cattle think so. That PR exercise is no good to them now, when they are short of money. It is ironic that the seed of industrial unrest in the Department lay in the charter. The Minister for Agriculture, Food and Forestry announced a host of extra services for farmers but the service they want is to sell their cattle — the other services are worth nothing to them. They want to carry on their business economically.

It is now apparent that the Minister failed to consult with those he expected to provide an extra level of service, namely, the staff in his Department. The Minister for Finance introduced an embargo on recruitment, which caused the problem, yet at the same time the Minister for Social Welfare announced in a journal — not An Phoblacht or The Workers Party newspaper, he does not use them anymore — that he needed five people in his Department to assist him with his constituency work. Is that consistent with a Civil Service embargo, especially at a time when the agricultural community and others were suffering?

This instance of gross insensitivity was only the latest in a series of industrial relations gaffes by the Minister. The first that staff in the Department heard about plans to decentralise to Johnstown Castle was when the Government announced the decision to the media. This happened again in Tallaght yesterday — it was the media who told the Packard workers they were going to lose their jobs. The Minister, Deputy Yates, was not even in the country when the Johnstown Castle decision was announced.

With no disrespect to the Minister of State, why is the senior Minister not here for this important matter? He is already responsible for spending £600,000 of taxpayers' money on special payments to staff in his Department. This money, paid before Christmas, was payment in advance for overtime, the purpose of which was to clear backlogs which had arisen. Another backlog has arisen since this industrial dispute. Farmers have rung their vets for test results but vets have been told by the DVO in Cork that the results are not being released. The Minister should have the power to tell them to release their results. In some instances clearance have been advertised but had to be cancelled because of this problem. The backlog has arisen because the Minister, in opening farming offices to the public in the afternoon, has diverted staff from their normal duties. The farmers' charter has proved an unplanned and uncosted fiasco, the most expensive photo-opportunity in the history of Irish agriculture. The estimate does not take account of the approximate £250,000 spent on the launch.

I thank Senator Rory Kiely for sharing his time with me as I want to add my voice to this call. This has been one of the worst years in living memory for Irish agriculture, with bad weather and bad prices even before the BSE crisis. Farmers have faced huge problems over the last five or six months. I ask the Minister of State to appeal to the Minister for Finance to solve this problem. I respect people's right to strike or go slow. However, this has been the worst year ever for agriculture. If more attention was paid to the problem it could be solved.

I know of many cases of people who were locked up due to brucellosis or TB eradication, had a long winter and now cannot sell their livestock. The bank manager is complaining, they have no fodder and the local Department office will not give out the blue cards. This is our major industry and it is in crisis. I appeal to both Ministers on behalf of the national interest and these people who have suffered enough. Will they have to go to further expense? The bank managers do not believe them at this stage. Departments are no longer believed by bank managers because agricultural schemes, such as REPS, are in place today and gone tomorrow. Bank managers no longer believe farmers who say they have a grant in the pipeline. I do not blame them because it is a result of the carry-on of the present Minister. It is all press conferences and spin doctors now, which is of little use to family farmers who have to make a living. I appeal for a speedy solution to this problem.

I thank Senator Rory Kiely for allowing me to contribute on this matter. I want to bring two cases to the Minister's attention. The first case concerns a farmer who has decided to retire from business and has a large dairy herd which he got tested for tuberculosis and which was found to be tuberculosis free. He got blood tests taken, sent them to Cork and nothing happened because of the dispute. He now cannot sell his dairy herd. In the second case lesions were found on an animal in September. Two tests were taken and it was found to be TB free, but the farmer cannot get his cards from the local office. That is totally unacceptable.

As Senator Rory Kiely said, the farmers' charter, which was launched with a huge degree of hype, is now in absolute ruins. If the unions had been properly consulted at the time some of these difficulties might not have arisen. There has been a deferral in the time scale for applying for area aid for tillage farmers. There have been huge problems with the maps not being properly processed. I appeal to the Minister to do what he can. The Minister for Agriculture, Food and Forestry indicated in the Dáil last week that it was a matter for the Minister for Finance. That is not good enough. It is within the Minister's Department and it is up to him to find a solution.

I thank Senator Rory Kiely for raising this matter. I understand it is his birthday today so I congratulate him.

Thank you. The Minister must have read the sunday Independent.

The Senator is in very good form for his birthday.

Hear, hear.

I remind the House that 1995 was a record year for farming. It was unfortunate that we had the BSE scare this year, which was totally outside the control of our Minister. However, other sectors, such as sheep, pigs and, I hope, dairying, are doing quite well at the moment. The beef sector is providing us with major difficulties. I agree with Senators that the CPSU could not have chosen a more difficult time for the farming community in which to call a strike. It is totally unfortunate and very unfair. Farm families with very low incomes are faced with ruination if the strike is not lifted.

The financial implications for the Irish economy of the BSE scare were recognised by this Government and have been dealt with as a top priority measure. In an effort to mitigate the disastrous effect of the closure of the international and national markets, strenuous efforts were made by the Minister and the Government to persuade our European partners of the need for measures to stabilise the market. The result was the EU Commission agreed to open the intervention markets for 100,000 tonnes of beef during the months of April and May. To date, our industry has been awarded tenders for about 8,000 tonnes, equivalent to some 25,000 cattle. This was a major achievement and it is to be regretted that the programme of industrial action did not have due regard to the importance of this national issue and did not refrain from any action taken in pursuance of a pay claim which would have the effect of preventing the sale of animals to this intervention market, which by its nature is temporary, or, alternatively, would prevent the export of animals to international markets, bearing in mind the strenuous efforts which have been put into keeping these markets open.

While the excellent service provided by the CPSU must be recognised, I greatly regret the action being taken, which is having a severe impact on the farming community. The action has serious implications, including the following. Tests have ceased in virtually all counties since farmers are reluctant to pay for tests when they cannot get identity cards or test result in many cases. Many farmers are unable to sell cattle as the cards are not in date. Area aid applications are not being processed.

This situation is wholly unacceptable against the background of ongoing talks between the union and the Department of Finance at the Labour Relations Commission. When the Department of Finance agreed to these talks, there was a clear understanding that problems arising would be addressed. It has been a long standing and laudable practice in the trade union movement to suspend any action which might cause hardship while talks are in progress. It is unfortunate the CPSU has not seen fit to do likewise on this occasion.

I realise that industrial action by its nature causes disruption. However, in my view, the interpretation by the CPSU of the type of industrial action to apply, especially in the case of the disease eradication programmes, is unnecessarily rigid. A more realistic interpretation would allow clerical staff to undertake the aspects of the new scheme which applied prior to 1 April. This would allow trade to continue unhindered.

As the Seanad is aware, talks are continuing at the Labour Relations Commission in order to resolve the dispute. Indeed, the Government has already signalled its preparedness to end the embargo which was the initial cause of the dispute. In this context, I am surprised the union has persisted in its action in all Departments. In particular, I am amazed it has refused to address the immediate problems arising for the agricultural sector. It showed co-operation in that it said it would not obstruct the intervention system. However, this makes no sense when it is obstructing cattle movement which will prevent many farmers from delivering their cattle to factories. These include many low income farmers who now face financial disaster.

The talks between the union and the Department of Finance are continuing at the Labour Relations Commission. It has been clearly signalled by the negotiators that the separate claims on behalf of their members in my Department will be addressed in the context of the central talks. In these circumstances I see no genuine reason for the continuation of the industrial action in my Department. I am, therefore, calling on the CPSU to call off its industrial action now, or, at the very least, to cease the specific actions in the disease eradication area which are preventing animal testing and movements of animals and actions in the area aid schemes which may in due course lead to problems with premia payments for farmers.

Can any farmer or vet ring the Department and get the result of a test in the morning?

They cannot, given the way the dispute is at the moment.

The Minister should have powers to intervene.

The Minister is making a statement in the Dáil which will expand on the statement I have made here and which will outline more clearly the action he proposes to take.

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