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Tuesday, 22 Oct 1996

Vol. 148 No. 18

Health (Amendment) Bill, 1996: Second Stage.

Question proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

Limerick East): This Bill has three main objectives: to strengthen and improve the arrangements governing financial accountability and expenditure control procedures in health boards; to clarify the respective roles of the members of health boards and their chief executive officers; and to begin the process of removing the Department of Health from detailed involvement in operational matters. Before dealing with the individual elements of the Bill, it might be useful for the House to consider the context in which I am bringing forward this legislation.

The Government's policy agreement, A Government for Renewal, endorsed the health strategy as the basis for the Government's programme in the health area. The health strategy seeks to reorient our health care system so that improving people's health and quality of life becomes the primary and unifying focus of all involved in the health sector. It sets out a four year action plan with targets for reductions in risk factors associated with premature mortality, together with other improvements in other indicators of health status.

The health strategy outlined a number of principles to guide the development of our health services. The Minister and the Department of Health should be responsible for the development of health policy and overall control of expenditure but should not be involved in the detailed management of the services. The roles and responsibilities of all key parties, including the members of boards and their managements, must be clearly defined. Greater responsibility should be devolved to the health boards and other executive agencies. Greater autonomy must be balanced by increased accountability at all levels. I am pleased to say all these principles find expression in the legislative proposals now before the House.

In bringing forward this legislation, I am keenly aware of the difficulties confronting those involved in the delivery of health and personal social services. There is no denying that, on a day to day basis, health workers must deal with an ever increasing demand for services from a more knowledgeable and informed public. They are required to deal with competing demands and priorities within the confines of the available funding. Their achievements in so doing are a testament to the co-operation, professionalism and dedication of health service workers and management. We are extremely fortunate in the quality and commitment of our health service personnel. I wish to place on the record of the House the Government's recognition of the contribution of all those working in the health service.

Despite significant levels of investment in recent years, we continue to face enormous pressure in terms of the demand for health services. The increasing complexity of the technology available in the services, the new drugs which continuously become available and the ageing of our population are all putting an increasing strain on the resources available. After decades in which we lagged behind other developed countries, current spending on health social services in Ireland is now comparable with other EU and OECD countries. It is worth noting that over the last five years the level of non capital expenditure on health in this country has increased by 7 per cent in real terms.

This growth in health spending took place at a time of unprecedented levels of growth in the economy overall. While the economy will continue to grow in the years ahead, the forecast is that the rate of growth will slow down. This will have implications for the level of resources available for public services generally and, in turn, for the level of public investment in health care.

In the years ahead we can expect, on the one hand, an inexorable pressure for additional and higher quality health services and, on the other hand, pressure for stronger discipline on public spending as a result of our obligations under the Maastricht criteria. We will need to develop a strategy to cope with these conflicting pressures while ensuring, at the same time, that the services currently available conform to the highest standards of quality, effectiveness and accountability.

In developing the service plans which are required of them under this Bill, health boards will also be keenly aware of these conflicting demands and pressures on their resources. It is vitally important to the successful implementation of this legislation that all the players involved — health boards, their members and managements — accept they are now required to plan and deliver services within the confines of their annual financial determination. Putting together the service plans will present them with significant challenges, but will also help them to reflect local priorities in a reasoned and justified way. Greater autonomy and more local decision making, linked with greater accountability and responsibility at local level, is the message of this Bill.

As I said earlier, the Bill has three main objectives. The first of these is to strengthen and improve the financial accountability arrangements in health boards. The Government is determined that the health boards will in future operate in a environment of service planning aligned to strict financial control and accountability. In A Government for Renewal we committed ourselves to introducing legislation to improve the accountability of health boards. This Bill gives effect to that commitment. It reflects the Government's strategic management initiative, with its emphasis on making the public service more responsive, accountable and open.

The second objective of the Bill is to clarify the respective roles and responsibilities of the members of health boards and their chief executive officers. One of the key problems identified by the Commission on Health Funding in relation to the present structure is that it confuses political and executive functions to the detriment of both. The health strategy, Shaping a Healthier Future, proposed that this be tackled by making board members responsible for policy functions — for example, determining overall levels of service and expenditure — while delegating to chief executive officers responsibility for operational matters.

Clear lines of responsibility are necessary between boards and their chief executive officers. All modern organisations, whether public or private, must have clear lines of responsibility so that each level understands its role. A board which interferes in operational matters cannot perform its functions in an adequate way as it will lose sight of the broader issues and strategy with which it must be concerned.

This Bill gives effect to the health strategy by specifying the functions to be performed by board members and chief executive officers respectively. Essentially, what is proposed is that the board members should be responsible for policy functions while the chief executive officer will have responsibility for the day to day operational functions.

The effect of these changes will be to bring the management arrangements in health boards into line with the position which has obtained in the local government system for many years. The "reserved functions" which will be carried out by the members of health boards include the adoption, supervision and amendment of service plans; the appointment and removal of the chief executive officer; the purchase and disposal of land; the borrowing of money and decisions to discontinue the provision and maintenance of any premises.

The third objective of the Bill is to begin the process, as I signalled earlier, of removing the Minister and the Department of Health from detailed involvement in the management of individual services by devolving greater authority and responsibility to the health boards. In future the role of the Department of Health will relate to policy formulation and the measurement of outcomes. There will be more attention to having systems in place which will ensure not only is policy being implemented but that we can accurately measure its effect. The development of greater expertise in the health board in relation to service planning and evaluation, allied to the improvements envisaged in the governance role of health board members, will create an environment in which greater authority and responsibility can be devolved to health boards.

A highly centralised service creates an unnecessary and undesirable distance between those making the decisions and the people affected by them on the ground. Where there is local control, by way of a service plan agreed by a health board which includes local representatives, problems are likely to be addressed with more focus, unmet needs are more likely to be prioritised and services are less likely to be duplicated. The Minister must, of course, continue to have ultimate responsibility to the Oireachtas for all health services, but this process of devolution of authority and responsibility from the centre to the regional and local level is the way forward for our health services.

I now turn to the main provisions of the Bill. Section 1 contains definitions of key terms used in the Bill. Section 2 requires health boards in carrying out their functions to secure the most beneficial, effective and efficient use of resources when carrying out their functions; to co-operate and co-ordinate their activities with other health boards, local authorities and public bodies; and to give due consideration to the policies and objectives of Ministers and of the Government. I direct Senators' attention in particular to subsection (1)(b) of section 2, which requires a health board to have regard to the need to co-operate with voluntary bodies who provide services to people in the health board's functional area. This subsection is the result of an amendment which I brought forward following discussion of the Bill in the Dáil and following representations on the issue from, among others, Senator Gerry Reynolds. It was pointed out that this section, which required health boards to have regard to the need for co-operation with other health boards, local authorities and public bodies, should impose a similar requirement in relation to co-operation with the voluntary sector. The voluntary sector makes an enormous contribution to the provision of health and personal social services in this country, whether it be general hospital services, services for the mentally and physically handicapped, child care services, services for the elderly and for other vulnerable groups.

I was happy to give statutory recognition to that contribution by imposing on health boards a duty to have regard to the need for co-operation with voluntary bodies who are providing services to people in their area. This underlines the Government's commitment to the role of the voluntary sector. I hope that this provision will promote greater co-operation between the health boards and the voluntary sector in the delivery of our health services. I see it as the start of the process whereby the Department of Health can gradually disengage itself from detailed involvement with the affairs of voluntary bodies as they, in turn, develop deeper and stronger links with their local health boards. A fundamental change will be taking place over the next few years in the funding of the voluntary sector. In future, voluntary hospitals and mental handicap agencies will be funded by the health boards, rather than the Department. It follows that good relationships will have to be developed between the boards and the voluntary bodies. This section, I hope, will lay the foundations for those good relationships.

Sections 3 and 4 clarify the respective roles of the members of health boards and their chief executive officers. Provision is made for certain specified functions, to be known as "reserved functions", to be carried out directly by the members of health boards. These include the adoption, supervision and amendment of service plans, the appointment and removal of the chief executive officer, the purchase and disposal of land, the borrowing of money and decisions to discontinue the provision and maintenance of any premises. The chief executive officer will assist the board, as appropriate, in these matters, but the board will have the final say in the performance of these functions. Any function that is not reserved to the members will, subject to some minor exceptions, be a function of the chief executive officer. The chief executive officer will be obliged to provide the board with any information they might require on such functions but will otherwise be autonomous in performing them. The effect of these changes will be to bring the management system in the health boards into line with the arrangements that have worked well in the local government system over many years.

Section 5 requires the Minister to specify the maximum amount of net expenditure that may be incurred by each health board in any year. The term "net expenditure" means the gross expenditure of a health board less the income of the board, other than grants made by the Minister. This amount, which is referred to as a "determination", must be notified to the board within 21 days of the publication of the Book of Estimates. The Minister is empowered to vary the determination at any time during the year — for example, when making additional funds available to meet agreed pay increases or to develop particular services or facilities.

Section 6 requires a health board, within a period of 21 to 42 days of the receipt of a determination, as the Minister may direct, to adopt a plan specifying the services to be provided by the board within the financial limits determined by the Minister. The board is required to submit a copy of its plan to the Minister. If a health board does not submit a service plan within the relevant time-scale, the Minister may allow a further period not exceeding ten days to enable the board to do so. If a health board fails to submit a service plan, the Minister may direct the chief executive officer to prepare and submit a plan within ten days. The Minister may, not later than 21 days after the receipt of a service plan, direct a health board to modify its plan and the board is required to comply with such a direction. Service plans are already in operation throughout the health boards on an administrative basis. The plans cover all the main service programmes such as general hospitals, services for the mentally and physically handicapped, elderly, child care, etc., and describes how boards will manage those programmes during the year. Under this Bill, service plans will become the key tool in the planning and management of services and in the control of expenditure.

Section 7 provides that where the Minister amends a health board's determination, he or she may direct that the service plan of the board shall stand amended accordingly. This is intended to deal with situations such as where the Minister makes additional funds available to meet agreed pay increases or to develop particular services or facilities. The members of the board will be required to monitor expenditure to ensure that it does not exceed the amount set by the Minister. In addition, a health board may vary its plan at any time during the year provided it does not breach the financial parameters laid down by the Minister.

Section 8 provides that whenever the Minister makes a determination, he or she shall specify the amount of indebtedness that a health board may incur and a health board shall not exceed the amount determined by the Minister. Section 9 requires the chief executive officer to implement the service plan and to ensure that net expenditure and indebtedness do not exceed the amounts determined by the Minister. Where the chief executive officer forms an opinion that a decision or a proposed decision of the board will result in net expenditure or indebtedness exceeding the amounts so determined, he or she is required to inform the Minister and the board of that opinion. Section 10 provides that if, at the end of the year, the expenditure incurred by a health board is less than the amount set by the Minister, the savings can be carried forward into the next year. However, if expenditure is greater than that authorised, the excess expenditure will become a first charge in the income and expenditure account for the following year. Section 11 requires health boards to keep all proper and usual accounts and to prepare and adopt annual financial statements on or before 1 April in the year following the year to which they relate. This is also the date by which health boards are required to submit their accounts to the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Section 12 provides that if the Minister is satisfied that a health board is not performing any one or more of its functions in an effective manner or has failed to comply with any direction given by the Minister, he or she may, by order, transfer specified functions of the board for a period of not more than two years to either the chief executive officer or such other person as the Minister may specify. This provision is intended as a measure of last resort to deal with situations where a board is not being governed in a satisfactory manner — for example, where a board has seriously and without good cause breached the expenditure limits set down by the Minister. I hope that this power will never have to be invoked and that any difficulties or disputes that might arise can be resolved without resorting to this provision. I also point out that before exercising this power, the Minister is required to have a report prepared on the performance by the board of its functions; he or she must give the board at least 14 days notice of the intention to exercise the power and must have regard to any representations made by the board. This process provides some "breathing space" to allow problems to be resolved by agreement between the Minister and the board.

Section 13 empowers the Minister to give directions in writing to health boards and requires boards to comply with such directions. Section 14 provides that future appointees as chief executive officers of health boards shall hold office on a fixed term contract basis, as is already the case with senior civil servants and city and county managers. The new provision will not affect the tenure of existing office holders. This section was amended during the passage of the Bill through the Dáil on foot of a proposal from Deputy Geoghegan-Quinn which I accepted. The amendment means that a chief executive officer's contract shall be for a period not exceeding seven years, bringing the maximum term of office of a chief executive officer in line with that which applies to other public servants, such as Secretaries of Departments and city and county managers.

Section 15 requires each health board to prepare and publish an annual report on the performance of its functions during the preceding year. The public expects a more open system of health administration. This provision will help taxpayers to judge whether they are getting the best value possible for the money they contribute to the public finances by making more information available on the actions and decisions taken on behalf of the people. Section 16 provides for the dissolution of the Dublin, Cork and Galway regional hospital boards, the local health committees and the National Health Council. As Senators will be aware, all of these bodies have long since ceased to function and this provision is merely giving formal effect to their abolition.

Section 17 contains miscellaneous amendments to the Health Act, 1970. Most of these are required to bring the relevant provisions of the Act in line with this Bill. Of particular interest is paragraph (g) which imposes a new statutory obligation on health boards to develop and implement health promotion programmes. The need for an explicit statutory duty in this regard was identified in the health promotion strategy launched last year. I believe this provision will assist in the successful implementation of that strategy.

Section 18 dispenses with the need for health boards to obtain ministerial consent to the acquisition or disposal of land. It contains several important safeguards. First, all decisions on the acquisition and disposal of lands will be reserved functions of the members of a health board. Second, and most particularly, provision is made that the Minister may give general directions to a health board on any proposed sale or acquisition of land. These directions must be complied with by the board. The directions I propose to issue as soon as possible after the enactment of the Bill will set out general guidelines aimed at ensuring transparency of procedure and the attainment of maximum value in respect of the disposal and acquisition of health board land and, with regard to the application of the proceeds of sale, will ensure that they will be used for the improvement and development of the health service. Included in these directions will be a requirement that health boards consult the Valuation Office to ascertain the correct market value of any lands they propose to buy or sell.

The section also sets out particular requirements that must be followed by a health board which proposes to dispose of any land which is not required for the purpose of fulfilling its functions. Subsection (e) contains detailed requirements concerning the notification of board members regarding any proposed disposal of lands. Members must have at least ten days' notice of the proposal and must be given details of the land and the person to whom it is proposed to sell it. A positive resolution must be passed at the next board meeting after such notification in order to give effect to any proposed disposal of lands. These safeguards will ensure that health board lands are not sold without the full knowledge and consent of the board members.

Section 19 amends the Health Act, 1953, to dispense with the need for health boards to obtain ministerial consent to the payment of grants to voluntary bodies. Again, the Minister is empowered to give general directions on procedures which must be followed in such cases and these must be complied with by the boards. Section 20 makes it an offence to carry on a nursing home that is not registered under the Health (Nursing Homes) Act, 1990. This is required to close a loophole which has become apparent in the 1990 Act.

Section 21 allows the Minister to extend, by order, the term of office of An Bord Altranais which was due to expire on 3 October 1996. I amended this section on Committee Stage in the Dáil to ensure the order can be made with retrospective effect. Work on the revision of the Nurses Act which will involve the establishment of new board structures is at present underway in the Department and it is hoped to publish a Bill early next year. The purpose of this provision is to enable the present board to continue in office until the new Act comes into force. This avoids An Bord Altranais going to the trouble and expense of holding elections to a board which will fall to be reconstituted under the new legislation.

Section 22 amends the definition of "health service" in the Health (Corporate Bodies) Act, 1961. This Act provides the statutory basis for a number of health agencies, including Beaumont and St James' Hospitals and the National Rehabilitation Board. The current definition of "health service" in the Act has a traditional medical orientation and this has prevented the establishment of bodies under the Act to perform functions in relation to personal social services. The revised definition is designed to overcome this problem. Sections 23, 24 and 25 contain standard provisions regarding repeals, the laying of orders before the Houses of the Oireachtas, the short title, construction and commencement.

As I said at the outset, this is a significant Bill which will affect all aspects of the management, planning and financial accountability of health boards. It is fully in keeping with the aims and objectives of the health strategy and its enactment is central to the achievement of those objectives. The Bill also reflects the Government's desire to introduce a more strategic approach to management in the public service. I commend the Bill to the House and look forward to hearing Senators' contributions.

My party broadly welcomes this Bill. It is appropriate that after 26 years we should look at the health services provided by the health boards. The late Deputy Sean Flanagan introduced the legislation which set up the health boards but there has been no major review of the health board system since. I fully agree with the intent of this Bill.

The Minister seeks greater financial accountability from the health boards and is looking for a defining role for health board members and the chief executive officer. He also wants to distance the Department of Health from the activities of the health boards so it will not be involved in their day to day operation. There will be considerable obligations on the health boards, particularly on the financial side with which I agree.

Although I have many good things to say about the health boards, I have had conflicts with them on the handling of their finances. I understand it costs approximately £17 million per day or £1.5 billion per annum to run the health services, yet one health board's annual report is two years out of date. What financial institution or major bank would be allowed to carry on its business in that way? The four commercial banks produce annual reports within two months. Health boards must understand that from now on they will have to make returns within a certain time. It is necessary that matters be more streamlined than they were in the past. That, and many other issues, were taken into consideration in the overall review of the health boards.

I was a member of a health board for many years and I saw health boards spend money like drunken sailors come the month of December. They found they had a certain amount of money which they had to spend by the end of the year otherwise they would have problems the following year. The provisions in this Bill will prohibit such nonsense. If there is extra cash, a health board can carry it over into the following years, and rightly so. Why should they squander it in December just to get themselves into shape for the new year? That happened in health boards over the years and it was a scandal.

There has been criticism of the increased level of administration in health boards. A person was a nobody in a health board unless he or she had staff or at least a secretary, even though he or she might be far from senior. In many instances there was massive duplication at administrative level. Matters which had to be cleared in a local office in one county still had to be authorised at regional level. There was no need for that and I thought there was an attempt to create an administrative industry. It annoyed the public when, for instance, a medical card had to be stamped four times. In the past, a staff officer in the health board would stamp the card and hand it out.

People expect that the money provided by the taxpayer goes into the provision of health services and not into the clerical end which consumes too large a proportion of the moneys provided for health. People look at that aspect against a background of waiting lists. Only this week I came across the case of a pensioner whose doctor sent a letter on his behalf to a health board seeking the investigation of his hip. The man received a letter three weeks later which indicated that he had been placed on a waiting list but was unlikely to be seen for two years. This related to the investigation and not the procedure to be carried out. That is not appropriate. If such investigations cannot be carried out within a reasonable length of time, we are not addressing the real issue of health services.

While some people believed in the past that there was a two tier health system, they now consider that there is a three tier one and they blame the consultants for it. If people want a procedure carried out, such as a hip operation, there are three routes open to them. Medical card holders will have the longest wait, those with VHI will not fare too badly but if people want to jump the queue, they should produce cash and they will be in clover. Such persons will have the procedure carried out and that unfortunately is the reality of Ireland's health service. There is very little the Minister can do about it in the present legislative framework but the issue should be tackled.

I agree with the removal of the stipulation that health boards must apply to the Minister to sell lands. It could take six or eight months for the Department to clear the sale of land worth £200 and I thought it was nonsense that so many letters on the matter passed between the health board and the Department. I understand that the proceeds of the sale of large portions of valuable land, most of which is owned by the psychiatric services, are not ploughed back into those services. That is at odds with what the Minister proposes in the Bill. I hope this Bill will tighten up that matter and ensure the money does not go into the general pool. Over the past number of years, long before this Minister took office, the Department of Health, the health boards and others colluded to dismantle the psychiatric services without providing an alternative. Simon Community and other voluntary groups were left to pick up the pieces. Former psychiatric patients roam the streets of our cities and towns and many of them end up before the courts.

Medical, paramedical, nursing and ancillary staff in the health services have done an excellent job over the years and have provided a wonderful service. They have responded positively to new technologies and procedures and, at the same time, have taken on board many new initiatives, such as the division of the health services for the mentally handicapped and the extension of the voluntary sector. I compliment them on their massive contribution to the health services over the years.

I am glad the Bill provides for co-operation between the voluntary sector and the health boards as otherwise we would not get the health services to which we all aspire.

I am not sure how grants will be paid. My understanding is that the health boards will not have to apply to the Department to pay grants. Is there an onus on them to pay grants? That is very important. May they pick and choose? What safeguards are in place to cater for those involved in the voluntary sector? Will the health board will pay grants to the voluntary sector, allow it to continue providing services and not starve it of necessary cash?

This Bill is concerned with the health boards. However, large sections of the health services, including voluntary hospitals, etc., are not covered under the health board system. In the past there were jealousies and stand offs between the health boards and voluntary hospitals. In certain instances there was also a lack of co-operation. That should not be the case. Those involved in providing healthcare who receive funding from the taxpayer have a responsibility to give full co-operation and ensure that the service provided to the public is given priority. That is important; not empire-building, retaining catchments or providing a service before a neighbouring hospital does so. The priority should be to complement and supplement each other in the provision of full and adequate health services.

While a great deal has been achieved by the health boards, there have been many gaps in the service provided and there have been mistakes and slip-ups. For example, many health boards failed to respond to the problem of child abuse. They were not alone in that and the Department had a role to play. However, health board officials received the initial reports of such abuse and had a responsibility to act. This House debated the many gaps in the services provided by the health boards. As a result of court cases, we have seen the inadequate approach adopted by health boards, which were also criticised for not addressing matters of concern. In the future that area cannot be allowed to move in the direction it did heretofore.

Everyone has a responsibility to ensure that child abuse is not permitted under any circumstances. Whether mandatory reporting is introduced, the necessary steps must be taken to ensure that there is no hidden room in Ireland for child abuse. As legislators, we have a responsibility to see to it that the authorities, the Department, the health boards, etc., carry out their functions and ensure that child abuse does not take place. Another area in which the health boards were not directly involved concerns infected blood. There was much discussion of this matter in recent weeks and I will not repeat the arguments.

Expenditure on health has increased by 65 per cent during the past five years but I am not sure whether a corresponding return was achieved in service. The Bill before the House addresses that matter. There must be a service plan and, if one is not in place, the law provides for an extension of time and an option for the Minister to act. There is also a responsibility with regard to making returns. In the past there was a lack of accountability and information and some health boards were very secretive. On occasion, it was difficult to extract information from the health boards and there seemed to be a fear of releasing facts to the public. I will not state that cover ups occurred, but the boards did not want to release information. Reference was made to a charter of rights for patients and the public is entitled to information regarding how money is spent, etc. In most health boards the gap between such spending and the release of information relating to it falls outside what is normal in a commercial situation.

I understand the Minister intends to introduce a new Nurses Bill, which is overdue. The term of office of the current board of An Bord Altranais ended in recent weeks. Did the Minister introduce an amendment in the Dáil that its term of office could be extended? Was this achieved by means of regulation or legislation? Will the Minister clarify that matter? I understand the board's term of office ended on 3 October, but something has happened to change that. If this was done by the introduction of regulations, well and good. I agree there should be a new Nurses Bill because the current legislation is outdated and is no longer relevant to the present situation. The sooner the better we have an opportunity to debate that Bill.

The Minister has the support of Fianna Fáil on the Bill before the House. We will not oppose Second Stage. Had there been sufficient time available, I might be able to inform the House regarding Committee and Report Stages but I received the Bill on short notice. The Minister has the support of the House on this Bill which is a welcome development. The situation obtaining in the health boards should have been addressed many years ago. The Bill has been in the offing for some time and offers a solid approach to the problem. I hope it contains the necessary safeguards to ensure that national public service agreements will be honoured, that the health boards do not have an out clause regarding their employees and that national agreements on pay and conditions will be applied. These issues are important because the thousands of people employed in the health service want to know that their interests will be protected and that chief executive officers will not have access to an out clause in the future. It is past time that chief executive officers were employed on a contract basis. It does not make sense that people have been employed in such positions since the establishment of the health services in 1970. Those responsible for operating the major financial and institutional apparatus of the health boards should be employed on a contract basis. City and county managers and secretaries of Departments are employed on seven year contracts. The same should apply to the health board chief executive officers and also to the programme managers. Programme managers should not be able to stay in their jobs for as long they wish.

A practice has developed in health boards whereby people are allowed to stay on after retirement age, particularly at senior management level. A cosy cartel has existed for years whereby people are kept on to do special jobs or on a merry go round for interviews. The small percentage at the top of the health boards are looked after. An old boys club has developed. There are few women in senior positions in the health boards. Although the health boards are mostly run by women, there are no female chief executive officers and few programme managers or hospital administrators. There has been a cosy cartel at the top whereby people are kept on supposedly because their services are specialised. It has more to do with their being friends of one another than being specialised. I hope the new legislation will leave no room for such "nod and wink" arrangements.

This Bill aims to modernise planning and management systems in the health boards. In doing so, it gives effect to a commitment in A Government of Renewal to introduce legislation to improve the accountability of health boards. It also implements undertakings in the health strategy Shaping a Healthier Future to improve the organisation and management arrangements of health boards and to begin the process of removing the Department of Health's day to day involvement in operational matters.

In order to improve accountability the health boards are required to provide service plans each year and to publish annual reports by the end of June each year following the publication of their annual financial statements. The Eastern Health Board, of which I am a member, has made major changes in its accounting system arising from the introduction in 1994 of new accounting standards for health boards.

This legislation will require health boards to provide service plans each year. The Eastern Health Board has prepared service plans. The 1996 general hospitals care service plan is in line with the general policies and objectives set out in the health strategy Shaping a Healthier Future. The service plans provide a basis for future planning, monitoring and review of the performance of the general hospital care programme. The plans endeavour to achieve the greatest possible health and social gain within the resources available and to ensure that treatment and care is provided in the most appropriate setting, having regard to the key principles of equality of service and accountability.

The highlighting of service development, quality initiatives and development measures were of primary concern in setting out the service plan for 1996. Arrangements have also been made for all new service plans being developed to be evaluated with the support of the board's new department of public health medicine, and value for money initiatives will continue to be vigorously pursued. It will be necessary for the programme to meet its targets by the end of 1996.

The key performance measures in the programme include the number of patients treated, the level of diagnostic service activity, the average length of stay, the bed occupancy and the review of the waiting lists. I thank the Minister for his interest in the waiting lists of the Eastern Health Board hospitals and the voluntary hospitals in Dublin and for the extra funding he has made available to reduce these waiting lists. The activity levels in this programme will be monitored throughout the year to ensure service targets are achieved within the financial and human resources available.

This year's service plan for the community care programme has been prepared and framed keeping in mind the key concepts of health and social gain as outlined in the health strategy. This programme will include a wide range of services. During the year all areas of service provision will be scrutinised and reviewed. Where necessary, adjustments will be implemented to ensure the focus is on the priority objectives set out in the health strategy. Value for money initiatives and efficiency measures will continue to be vigorously pursued and it will be necessary for the programme to meet its targets by the end of the year.

A service plan has also been drawn up for the special hospitals care programme. This plan deals with a range of services under the broad headings of adult psychiatric services, the central nurse training school, the voluntary organisations and the mentally handicapped services. I am pleased the Minister has placed the work of the voluntary organisations on a statutory basis with the health boards because it is in the psychiatric services that the voluntary services play the greatest role. Once again, value for money initiatives and efficiency measures will continue to be vigorously pursued and it will be necessary for the programme to meet its target by the end of this year. These are some of the measures being introduced by the health board to provide for the greater accountability required by the Bill before us.

When I read the debate on this Bill in the other House I was interested to note that a number of Members referred to the need to provide care for the elderly. In planning for the future needs of the elderly it is essential that consideration is given to the population projections for the coming year and how they will impinge on the service requirements as stated in the health strategy. The health strategy states:

The rapid rise in the number of people in the oldest age groups poses a special challenge to health services in the next four years. Services in the community and in hospitals will have to be responsive to the increased demands and the growing population of older people.

In a survey carried out in 1985 by the National Council for the Aged it was predicted that the number of persons aged 65 and over in our health board areas would increase by 12 per cent between 1981 and 1991 and by 31 per cent between 1981 and 2006. However, the actual increase between 1981 and 1991 was 15 per cent and it is now projected that the increase between 1981 and 2006 will be 41 per cent. Almost half of our population will be over the age of 65 by 2006.

To respond to the growing needs of the elderly the Eastern Health Board has planned a four year action programme. It intends to extend the community ward team facilities throughout the board's area. This will necessitate the provision of additional human resources, principally nursing, paramedical staff and care workers. It also proposes that 50 bed community units be established at nine centres in the health board's area. The Minister recently opened one such unit at the Navan Road and a unit at Sir Patrick Dun's hospital will be available by the end of this year.

These units will have a two fold effect by providing accommodation for the elderly population and provide a "step down" facility for acute hospitals. At present there are a number of elderly persons occupying beds in acute hospitals. By providing these community unit facilities beds that are required for urgent medical treatment will become available.

The Eastern Health Board, in partnership with the voluntary sector, is moving towards the final stages of completing a ten year major reorganisation of the psychiatric services from an institutional to a community model. The three main principles governing this plan are the development of a comprehensive community based service to enable many who until now have required hospitalisation for treatment to live at home while receiving treatment, the resettlement of long stay patients from institutional care to community living and the transfer of acute psychiatric admissions from major psychiatric institutions to psychiatric units in general hospitals. These principles are based on the premise that psychiatric patients' services should not be equated with beds but with achieving optimum treatment results and the best quality of life.

The Bill also refers to the respective roles of health board members and chief executive officers. It makes a distinction between the reserve functions of elected members of the board and the executive functions of the chief executive officer. During the years I served on health boards there was never confusion about the demarcation between the duties of elected members and those of the chief executive officer. I have always found the chief executive officer of the Eastern Health Board to have been helpful, especially with executive functions. I pay tribute to the recently retired chief executive officer of the Eastern Health Board, Mr. Kieran Hickey.

In contributions made in the other House, a number of Deputies referred to a health strategy document identifying a weakness in the Eastern Health Board area. This was that significant services were provided by voluntary agencies in the health board area but no single authority had overall responsibility to co-ordinate all services and ensure appropriate links between them. The Eastern Health Board area is different from other health board areas in that a significant number of hospitals in it are voluntary. The health board has responsibility for only two major hospitals in Dublin: Blanchardstown and Cherry Orchard. I look forward to the reorganisation of the Eastern Health Board region. I ask the Minister in his reply to indicate what stage it is at. The reorganisation is necessary because there is no value in some hospitals being funded by the health board and others directly from the Department of Health. The health board has little control over these hospitals' services. If, as is proposed in the Bill, that the role of the Department of Health be removed from the day-to-day operation of health matters, it is vital a new health structure be provided in the Dublin area as soon as possible. This would help to fulfil what the Minister spoke of, that voluntary hospitals and agencies for the disabled would be funded in future by the health boards and not the Department of Health.

I welcome this Bill. It is a necessary piece of legislation. I hope health boards will in future be more accountable than in the past and, in doing so, provide necessary services to local communities.

I welcome this Bill. However, I am anxious about one area. While I am pleased with the freedom health boards will be granted, I raise the issue of communications which come from them to their employees, particularly doctors working within it. I speak of directives from health boards because, if these are taken at face value, it means doctors cannot speak on behalf of their patients. For example, the Southern Health Board produced a handbook last year entitled Caring For People. This was a laudable document in many ways. However, the following statements were made in it:

Publications — Publication of any matter relating to affairs of the Health Board, or use of information drawn from official sources in publications by staff members or for publication by others, should have the prior approval of the Chief Executive Officer.

Media — The giving of interviews, statements or any other information connected with the services provided by the health board should not be undertaken without the prior approval of the Chief Executive Officer or the delegated official spokesperson for the Board.

Information — Public statements by Board staff may be taken as reflecting Board policy or illustrative of Board attitudes. Therefore, information should be issued only through authorised spokespersons (leaking of information to any source, including making it available to colleagues in professional/staff associations in this or other Boards, is not permitted).

This is a serious matter. These statements could be in conflict with, for example, the consultants' common contract and the associated legislation regarding clinical independence of the consultant which, under paragraph 6.4.6, states:

...the employing authority will provide a forum, in the first instance, for the consultant's advocacy role. Neither does it preclude the profession as a body advocating more or better services for patients.

These directives could be in direct conflict with our obligations to our patients. Article 25 of the principle of medical ethics in Europe, which is supported by the Irish Medical Council, states:

It is the duty of a doctor, whether acting alone or in conjunction with professional organisations, to draw the attention of society to any deficiencies in the quality of health care or in the professional independence of doctors.

Directives similar to those issued by the Southern Health Board were issued by the Western Health Board. I gather these have been modified. However, I hope that, in giving greater powers to the chief executive officer and the health boards, the Minister ensures they still understand that doctors have to fulfil their ethical obligations to their patients. If it is a case of the patient versus the system, we must support the patient. We must support our ethical obligation. I hope we will be in a position to rely on the Minister to ensure that officialdom cannot overtake the ethical obligations of the medical profession.

This Bill is important but may not appear so at first glance. Any Bill concerned with the administration of public authorities does not, as a rule, make newspaper headlines. This is only if things do not go wrong, which they unfortunately have recently. The court case in London, which is receiving unbelievable media attention, arose from an administrative breakdown in a Government Department. Perhaps the Minister's Bill will not receive the attention others will.

I was in Letterkenny hospital yesterday and the main bone of contention for people there was the moneys paid to doctors under the general medical services. I examined the listing and saw that two doctors in Donegal received £147,000 and £164,000 in 1995. People asked how, if a nurse or porter earns only £200 per week, these people were earning £164,000 in one year? People will ask those questions because health services are a great debating and gossiping point and people will always talk. If someone asks a Member on either side of this House to obtain a medical card for them, it is worth a vote or two if it can be delivered.

Only in Donegal and in one part of it. The Senator will be aware of that.

That is the Fianna Fáil part of it.

Unfortunately not.

Health is a major area which will be discussed no matter where one goes. If a doctor does something from which possibly someone dies, it is the talk of the area for a long time and the poor doctor will be criticised and the centre of scandal. Health impacts on people's lives so it is important for us to get things right.

The reform of our public administration is one of the biggest issues which faces us today. As our economy and society grows, it imposes new burdens on our social services. As our young population begins to age, our health services will have to bear the burden of considerable extra usage. The estimate for this year is £2.4 billion, of which £1.3 billion will go to the health boards. How will this be spent? It will be spent on general services, psychiatric services, services for the disabled and on the elderly. The health boards employ thousands of workers throughout the country. My main concern, in common with Senator Finneran, is the psychiatric service, the "Cinderella" of the system which did not receive the consideration it deserved in the past.

The health board structures were set up in 1970 and this is the first major review since then. Shaping a Healthier Future was a step in the right direction. We must review these services to make them more consumer-friendly, so that people know how the moneys are being spent.

This Bill has three purposes, the first being to ensure the financial accountability of health boards. I welcome this move although it is important that it is not taken up the wrong way. No one is suggesting that there are financial irregularities in the health boards. On the contrary, the Bill attempts to improve the accountability of the boards by facilitating proper public examination of health board priorities and spending in any given year. This is not a new move, it merely brings health boards into line with other Government agencies. The number of annual reports published by various State and semi-State bodies has increased considerably in recent years. While at times this may cause us difficulty as we attempt to keep abreast of what is happening in each area, there is no doubt it has improved the accountability of public institutions both to us and to the public. The publication of annual reports has a positive effect. Almost by definition, it will require any health board to appraise fully its performance over the previous year. While many do so already I am also certain that, as a result of day to day operating pressures, many do not give sufficient thought to this process. That they will now be compelled to do so is extremely important.

We must again refer to the consumers when mentioning operating pressures. One need only note the outcry which arises when there is pressure on beds during the winter. If beds are put into hospital corridors there is hell to pay. I have had reason to write to a previous Minister for Health on this matter when I worked within the services. Recently, nurses in Letterkenny have again been overworked and under pressure. People call for more bed space but if 2,000 beds were provided they would be full tomorrow. We must examine the areas in which we spend money.

One of the worst moves was the abolition of county health committees. Their members could inform the health boards of problems which pertained in the county. They were advisory bodies but they should not have been scrapped because they had an important role to play.

The introduction of technology into psychiatric hospitals has put more pressure on staff. They have not been fully compensated but they have done tremendous work. They used to write notes in the evening but now patients' details are available at the touch of a button.

The second purpose of the Bill is to ensure that the board fulfils its policy role within each health board. In line with best contemporary management practices, the Minister is seeking to ensure appropriate demarcation between the boards and their chief executives. No Member of this House who could argue against that.

I am concerned about sections 18 and 19 which deal with the sale of land. Some time ago the health board tried to sell land in Donegal. The sum agreed for the sale was ridiculous. Two years later, the same price was received for the milk quota on the land. The health board still owns the land and it continues to receive a large amount of money through leasing. We must keep strict control of this. As Senator Finneran said, any money from the sale of psychiatric hospital or health board land should go to the area in which the property is sited.

After the Planning for the Future document, many psychiatric patients were allowed to leave or were pushed out of hospitals. Many of them wandered the streets, completely lost and without enough back-up. Re-admission rates soared and many of these people turned to alcohol, were taken advantage of or committed suicide. That strategy was wrong. If psychiatric service lands are to be sold, the money should go towards providing proper services for the people being treated.

Section 20 deals with the treatment of the elderly. Are we getting value for money in our nursing homes? Are the elderly being looked after properly? We regularly hear reports about the lack of services for them. The health boards are paying major subventions to nursing homes on behalf of the taxpayer; according to some reports one would not put a cat in a nursing home because it would be so badly treated, yet they are registered and supported. Some of them are maintaining up to 40 beds but they are not able to look after their patients. It is second hand care. One must commend the people who worked within the services prior to that initiative for the care they gave to these people.

The third purpose of the Bill is to attempt to ensure appropriate demarcation between the responsibilities of the board and the Minister for Health and his Department. I welcome this. One of the prime difficulties in the past has been the extent to which our administrative system and power has been concentrated centrally in Departments. This has been extremely harmful to local democracy which, in itself, is clearly inadequate. It has been widely accepted for some time that centralisation is a problem. This perception is shared by politicians, academics and commentators alike and I am pleased the Government is now addressing it. It is not only in the health area that this devolution of powers is taking place. My party colleague, the Minister for Education will attempt to do likewise soon and I welcome that too. I look forward to seeing the Opposition's reaction to these proposals. This is not an attempt to divest the Minister of ultimate responsibility for the health services but to allow the development of local focused responses to their problems.

I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy O'Shea, who is the chairman of the national strategy group on drugs. There is a great difference between the sums spent on drug programmes in the city and the country. Treatment programmes and education are extremely important but the drug problem is not confined to the Eastern Health Board or Dublin. Drugs are available in every town and village. We must deal with it in every way possible and should not concentrate all our energies in Dublin when there are problems in Letterkenny and Roscommon also.

I hope hard drugs are not available in the country?

Hard drugs are a problem in Dublin.

When there are cutbacks in hospitals, the people who are affected are always those who provide the hands-on service to the patient — nurses, doctors, physiotherapists, etc. — but never the health board administrators. This is wrong because patients suffer.

It is unfortunate that we do not discuss other Bills along these lines which attempt to tackle a problem before it gets out of control. Notwithstanding the increases in health expenditure which have taken place in recent years, for which my party can rightly take the bulk of the credit, the pressure on health services is not diminishing in any western country. In that sense, the health services are a black hole — no matter how much we spend there will always be difficulties and reasons to spend more. It is incumbent on us to spend the money in as wise and judicious a fashion as possible. This Bill is an important contribution to that process and I welcome it.

I join with Senator Doyle in wishing Kieran Hickey and his wife a happy retirement. He worked with the North-Western Health Board and in 1982 was my chief organiser when, on an awareness campaign during the International Year of the Disabled, I drove a pony and trap from Bundoran to Ballsbridge to highlight the needs of the disabled. We have been great friends before and since.

I welcome the Bill. It could have been written by the chief executive officer of the North-Western Health Board because we have complied with its provisions for many years. However, unfortunately, the board never got credit from any of the Minister's predecessors. We always kept within budget, but it was hospitals which spent outlandishly that, years later, received increased funding to correct their finances. Indeed, when we sought extra funding from Ministers we were told that money had to be directed at services which we were already providing.

Senator Maloney attacked the psychiatric services. We have the best such services in the country.

I did not attack them.

Did the Senator not refer to patients wandering the streets and not cared for?

I did not use such words. The Senator should have listened to what I said. I called for more resources for the psychiatric services.

The North-Western Health Board has made greater attempts to support hostels than any other health board. Many of the Senator's colleagues who work in them have told me that they would not go back to the hospitals. It is unfair of the Senator to say that men have committed suicide because of the lack of resources.

It happened.

Suicides have been with us a long time and have never been more prevalent than at present. They have occurred in mental hospitals, even those surrounded by 12 foot walls.

They occur in every health board region. I did not condemn the psychiatric services.

The Senator appears to have a chip on his shoulder regarding the North-Western Health Board, which provides a very good service. I cannot allow his remarks to go unchallenged and must correct the points he made. I hope the provisions of the legislation work well, but we should be clear that they will entail us attempting to run health boards as businesses. It is difficult to do this, given that the boards provide a service for which there is no competition.

The biggest problem with expenses for the health boards today relate to medical personnel and drug companies. The bills for drugs continue to increase and we do not appear to be able to get to grips with them, no matter what we do. According to recent statistics, there have been more car accidents involving people taking drugs than alcohol. We are over prescribing drugs, leading to knock-on problems associated with dependency and side effects. It is time to cut down on the costs involved.

Measures must be taken to cap waiting lists. The Minister and his three predecessors all injected funding to reduce them, yet within three months they returned to their high levels. This is where major expenses arise. A problem associated with this area is the difference between private and public treatment. Medical card patients are left on waiting lists while private patients can obtain the same treatment immediately. If we are to tackle this problem we will have to provide that those in the medical profession who want to practise in the private sector must do so full time. To ensure this, we will have to measure their workload and production capacity.

Society has changed. Hitherto old people were nursed at home, but today many cannot live in rural Ireland and keep a job. The health boards are doing a better job on care for the aged than private nursing homes, where residents pay more. The care provided by the health boards include therapy services and minibus services. No private nursing homes take out their residents. Provision should be made to ensure that they do so. While they are well looked after, it is not enough to leave residents in the home all day watching television or reading a newspaper. We should try to ensure that this part of the health service is as good as that provided by the public services.

Any land sold by the North-Western Health Board was used to obtain matching funds. We often obtained as much, if not twice as much, from the Department and EU funding, which was then reinvested in the services provided by the board. Land has generally been sold at full market value. There was much controversy over the sale of an old hospital in Sligo seven or eight years ago when it was alleged that we gave it away. Since then it has twice been offered for sale by the developer who bought it but he cannot get his money for it.

There was no planning permission.

There was no problem with planning permission or with the provision of services. The developer bought it to build a hotel, but it did not work out for him. Nobody is interested in buying it even though it has been on the market for the past six years.

It is not correct to allege that we sold land cheap. We have obtained full market value for land sales. In most cases land is sold to regional colleges, county councils or corporations. It does not go to private hands but goes back to the public to whom it belongs. The services in the north west would not be what they are today if we did not sell land and obtain matching funding for it.

It was not always the case with Letterkenny.

Bernard McGlinchey and Harry Blaney always looked after Letterkenny. It is never neglected.

I will keep an eye on them.

They are keeping their eyes on the Senator.

That is a compliment.

The Minister stated that section 2 requires the health boards in carrying out their functions to secure the most beneficial, effective and efficient use of resources. That is a lovely phrase, but how do lay men and women tell medical professionals that an extra hip replacement should be carried out or that extra patients should be seen during the week? This is how money is lost. In many cases medical people do not agree with administrators who must balance the budget.

A fair level of production on the part of medical professionals should be assessed. For example, how many operations should they carry out? This aspect has not been considered and it is why money is lost. We will not have a proper medical service until we get to grips with that position and ensure people with medical cards are treated equally to those with VHI cover or people whose relatives come home from the United States with money. We are doing our best but we are moving further away from that situation.

Health boards can only do so much and they need more help and co-operation to ensure a full return on the money spent. I agree with Senator Maloney about a black hole; millions of pounds have been spent on health boards over the last 20 years. They were originally run by the county councils who provided a good service. There were regional hospitals and they were not overloaded, although the level of population was almost the same as it is at present.

There are now more doctors, one of whom received £147,000. I do not know if this involved a consultant or a general practitioner, but a GP would not have received the full amount. There may be three other doctors in the practice and a surgery receptionist who must be paid from that sum. It is easy to make capital from a large figure.

Secretaries only.

General practitioners provide a wonderful service and if somebody earns that amount, they are working long hours. If a doctor was not providing a good service, or if he was unpopular, he would not earn such a sum. I am satisfied that GPs do a good job, particularly in rural Ireland. They are available 24 hours a day; one rarely rings up a doctor in a rural area and finds they are unavailable. One goes to the same doctor on each occasion and they earn every penny they have.

The purpose of the Bill is to curtail spending on the health services, but I do not know how this can be achieved. Health boards have been in operation for 22 years and I have been a member of a board for 21 years. During that time costs have continually mounted and the number of people queuing for treatment has also increased. Consultants have been asked to have timetables and to see people hourly. However, some people arrive at 10 a.m. and are still there at 7 p.m. or are sent home without seeing the doctor. Savings should be made in this area but it requires cooperation. The stock answer for delays is that consultants were called to an emergency. The waiting lists will not reduce unless some consultants are available only to see out patients.

Another aspect of managing health boards is the increasing number of new services. In the past, people only went to hospitals to have their appendices removed or for broken bones. However, each new service not only involves a bed but a patient, a nurse and a physician. The pyramid is becoming wider at the bottom and taller. We must come up with a system which sets the maximum amount which will be done. Vast sums of money are spent on new technology and this will cause major problems in the future. The first advances included hip and knee replacement operations but soon it will be possible to replace fingers and hands.

This is admirable because people should be relieved of pain, but how can we continue to provide such services given the resources available? Ministers like to say that bigger and better services are being provided; but irrespective of how many Bills are passed, costs will not be kept down while the services continue to expand. The Bill suggests that health boards should be run in the same way as private businesses, but this will not work as efficiently as the Minister thinks because boards provide services to sick people who need treatment. The boards cannot only give half a service; it is all or nothing.

The implication of the Bill is that members of health boards are running away with all the money, but 75 per cent of each board's budget is spent on staffing and only 25 per cent is available for other areas. A hospital cannot function without staff and the number of staff must continually increase. At present, many nurses work many hours above and beyond the call of duty for which they receive little or nothing. Under the current tax system, if they work overtime and long hours, the Minister for Finance receives more than they do. They do not work for money but to provide a service.

I welcome the Bill but the Minister must do more than introduce legislation. The Bill addresses a problem but not its cause, which is that services must be provided but not at the going rate. For example, some years ago in Cork patients were sent to Belfast. They received a good service but at less expense. If services are to be cut, perhaps arrangements should be made with hospitals in England and elsewhere. The North-Western Health Board has a good relationship with hospitals across the Border in Northern Ireland. Instead of putting people on waiting lists for services at home, perhaps the Minister should consider giving them the cost of the service if they can get it elsewhere. This would put an end to waiting lists and people could get services.

If we are going to run the health board as a business then let us put it on a business footing and give the customer choice. If you go into a shop for a commodity and you do not like it, you can go into another shop. Unfortunately, the person with a medical card has no choice and must sit on a waiting list for perhaps two years. If that patient could be told that the Minister will meet the costs of their treatment if they could personally arrange it then we could say that we had put our health boards on a business footing. In such a scenario the medical card holder would be on a par with the VHI subscriber or someone with sufficient money to pay for their treatment. Perhaps this should be done on a pilot basis. I am not happy that medical card holders are getting the service they need, they never have. I am not happy because it is the money the Government is giving to provide that service that is keeping the medical professionals in work. How many of them could manage successfully on their own if they had not got their jobs in the regional hospitals? Let us determine to run the health service as a business and give the medical card holders who cannot get the required treatment in their own area the money to pay for their treatment elsewhere.

I welcome the Bill. I hope it meets the requirements but I do not think it will.

I welcome the Minister and commend him and the Minister for Health on making changes. I also want to put on record my appreciation of the Minister for Health's commitment to the general hospitals system. The programme for Government and the health strategy document contain a commitment to make the health boards more accountable and to improve and define the management structures. By and large, this Bill succeeds in that aim. However, I do not believe that a community based responsive health service will be served by abolishing the one democratic tier between the health provider and the health consumer, namely, health committees. This document in one and a half lines states that local committees established under section 7 of the Principal Act are hereby dissolved; whereas in the Health Act, 1970, there are five subsections in that section. They were never abolished but they are being abolished now. In 1988 and 1989 the Government was following a programme of fiscal rectitude.

They were gone long before that.

They were not, he is right.

They were not. I was a member of the Southern Health Board between 1985 and 1991 and of the local committee up to 1988 and, because of the cuts in health services, the issues were being raised in the local committees. For that reason the Government decided to withdraw the officials from the local committees and deprived the public representatives and representatives of the voluntary bodies of the right to speak out at a time when health services were being cut to the bone.

In my own region an official of the health board told the officials of his department that the board may not be able to pay their wages. He did that for an ulterior motive but he paid the price — he got his walking papers and rightly so.

I want the Minister to look carefully at this because I will not support the abolition of health committees. I represent an area which has a population of 75,000 people. It is known as the North Cork public health district. It stretches from Ballydesmond in the west to Araglen in the east. With 75,000 people, it is as big as County Limerick. Who have we to speak for the health of the people in that area? A health board where one day there is an official available and nobody available the next day; a director of community care who will come to north Cork whenever it suits, perhaps on Wednesday or Thursday. That is not providing a service and I am not going to accept it. I have a great commitment to helping people with health services. I have had to fight for a general hospital system for half of my life and we are glad that that at least has been recognised by the Minister and Government and that the general hospital system is secure for the future.

I urge the Minister to reconsider section 16 of this Bill, which abolishes the local health committees. As I stated, in the explanatory memorandum that is the reason given, namely, they had ceased to function.

It is ironic that the Bill decentralises our health system by increasing the powers of the health boards while at the same time missing the opportunity to not only maintain but to increase the powers at local level. Under the section of the Health Act relating to voluntary bodies it states:

it shall be the principal function of a local committee to advise the health board on the provision by the board of health services in the functional area of the committee, and a health board shall consider any advice so tendered to it.

That is what you are asking us to abolish and I cannot accept that. I hope the Minister will take account of these concerns and review the terms of section 16.

I welcome other provisions in the Bill which I believe will make health boards more accountable and efficient. The health boards were established in 1970 by Minister Childers. I remember it well. After a short time a very prominent person in Irish politics when asked about this system replied "How do you unscramble the egg"? That is what we have to contend with — a health board in my own region of Cork or Kerry that has sub-committees, such as a general hospitals committee, a psychiatric services committee or a community care committee, that meet behind closed doors, a health board that will meet for two hours on the first Monday of each month. Do you think that this provides a forum for people to raise issues of concern? It does not and have no doubt about it.

I am concerned at the trend in full eligibility. I once got a figure from the Minister which showed that 39 per cent of people in the state had full eligibility. I would say that now it must be just over 30 per cent. We have a situation where three people in the same family have medical cards and they are depending on the one person's income. The income of the principal householder is assessed when determining eligibility. One card is given to the spouse, the husband, the other perhaps to the wife, and one to the dependant over 16 years of age. That is an appalling state of affairs. It is being done for the purpose of decreasing the percentage of people who are eligible for a medical card.

Senator Maloney said that in excess of £100,000 was paid to GPs. A similar sum is paid to GPs in my region and they also have private practices. Last week the community welfare officer found that one person who was over the means limit got a medical card. He was 85 years of age and his 75 year old wife was denied a medical card. How could a 75 year old spouse be excluded from full medical card eligibility in 1996? I could not agree with that.

Although I welcome the Bill, I cannot figure out how the Minister can say a fundamental change will take place over the next few years in the funding of the voluntary sector, which comprises voluntary hospitals and the medical handicap agencies. What are voluntary hospitals? Will the public voluntary hospitals be under the aegis of the health boards? They have failed since 1960 to bring them into the common selection procedure. I wonder how the Minister will, with one stroke of his pen, fund the voluntary sector so easily. They are all separate entities which receive substantial funding from the Department, although admittedly they provide a good service.

I do not want to talk about all the bad stories, but the Bill states that a health board will be confined to whatever programme its submits and whatever expenditure is allocated by the Department to meet that programme. On 1 October 1996 the dental department of the Southern Health Board was told it could no longer provide dental treatment to medical card holders because of the lack of funds. The Minister can check that with the board. I have a letter at home in which I made a very strong case and the reply which I received. The principal dental officer and a dentist in my region confirmed that to me. If there are strict regulations about funding, how can the Minister monitor crisis situations? There has to be some flexibility.

I mentioned the public voluntary hospitals and I welcome the Minister's commitment to the general hospital system. A hospital is as good as the staff who run it and the equipment with which they are provided. Since 1988 and 1989 there has been talk in my health board region of a pan hospital structure. Has that all been forgotten about? The idea was to bring the old general hospital, which is a public hospital, in with the public voluntary hospitals. We will always defend our general hospital system. It is vitally important to have a hospital which is easy for people to reach. There is also a sociological argument that patients' relatives and friends should find it easy to visit the hospital. If we had not fought so hard and had not gone to the High Court in 1989 we would not have a general hospital now. As a result of those experiences, I am somewhat wary of decisions which have been taken. I want to ensure the best service is provided in hospitals which are near people.

I see no sense in my health board paying colossal sums of money to lease premises in Cork city, north Cork and elsewhere. A one-off capital expenditure would enable the board to build premises to accommodate their services and would save a great deal of money in the long-term which could be used to provide services. I am speaking from the heart on this issue as I have very strong feelings on the question of medical services. I hope the Minister will take on board the points I made about section 16 and the abolition of the health committees.

I thank Senators for their contributions to this debate. I am pleased by the broad welcome the Bill has received.

As the Minister said at the outset, this is an important Bill which aims to modernise the management systems in the health boards. It sets down financial accountability provisions which will change the way health boards conduct their business. It introduces a planning framework which is linked to specific resources and clear objectives. In short, the Bill requires health boards to carry out their tasks in a context which emphasises planning, strategic management and financial accountability.

The Minister and I have listened carefully to all the contributions. It is fair to say there is broad agreement on all sides of the House on the need for the changes envisaged in the Bill. I would like to respond to a number of matters raised in relation to specific provisions of the Bill.

In response to Senator Finneran's criticisms of the substantial increase in expenditure on health services, I wish to make the following points. Recent Governments have identified health as a priority area for investment. Additional funds have been provided for child care services, services for the mentally handicapped and nursing homes for the elderly. These additional funds have funded additional residential and respite care places and have increased the capability of the health services to respond to those most in need. Value for money initiatives have contributed £20 million towards these developments. The health service is a labour intensive provider of services 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

Year-on-year increases in the health Estimate include provision for items such as national pay agreements, compensation for general inflation and increases in the various cash allowances paid. These increases account for almost half of the overall increase. A further 20 per cent, approximately, is accounted for by community drug schemes, legislative obligations and European Union commitments.

Senator Doyle alluded to the restructuring of the Eastern Health Board. The Government has no plans to move away from the system of regional health boards which, by and large, have served us well over the last 25 years. However, given the scale and complexity of health services in the greater Dublin region, there is a general acceptance of the need for some restructuring of the Eastern Health Board. The Minister intends to submit proposals on the future administration of health services in the Eastern Health Board area to the Government shortly. The Minister will make a further statement when the Government has taken decisions on the matter.

A number of Senators referred to the purchase and sale of land by health boards. Section 18 dispenses with the need for health boards to obtain ministerial consent for the acquisition or disposal of land. It contains several important safeguards. First, all decisions on the acquisition and disposal of lands will be reserved functions of the members of a health board. Second, and most particularly, the Minister may give general directions to a health board on any proposed sale or acquisition of land. These directions must be complied with by the board.

The directions, which it is proposed to issue as soon as possible after the enactment of the Bill, will set out general guidelines aimed at ensuring transparency of procedure and the attainment of maximum value in respect of the disposal and acquisition of health board land and, with regard to the application of the proceeds of sale, will ensure that they will be used for the improvement and development of the health service. Included in these directions will be a requirement that health boards consult the Valuation Office to ascertain the correct market value of any lands they propose to buy or sell.

The section also sets out particular requirements that must be followed by a health board that proposes to dispose of any land which is not required for the purpose of fulfilling its functions. Paragraph (e) contains detailed requirements concerning the notification of board members regarding any proposed disposal of lands. Members must have at least ten days notice of the proposal and must be given details of the land and the person to whom it is proposed to sell it. A positive resolution must be passed at the next board meeting after such notification in order to give effect to any proposed disposal of lands. These safeguards will ensure that health board lands are not sold without the full knowledge and consent of the board members.

Senator Finneran sought clarification on section 21. This section amends the Nurses Act, 1985, to allow the Minister to extend by order the term of office of An Bord Altranais, the Nursing Board, which was due to expire on 3 October 1996. The board has 29 members, 17 of whom are directly elected by members of the nursing profession and 12 of whom are appointed by the Minister.

The purpose of this amendment is to enable the present board to continue in office until a new nurses Bill, currently being prepared, comes into force. It will avoid having the Nursing Board going to the trouble and expense of holding elections to a board which will fall to be reconstituted under the new legislation.

Subsection (1) makes it possible for the Minister to extend the term of office of the members of An Bord Altranais, which expired on 3 October 1996. The subsection provides that the period of extension cannot be for more than 12 months.

Sections 9, 10 and 11 of the Nurses Act prescribe the membership of the Nursing Board, and provide for appointments and elections to it. Reference to these sections allows the Minister to extend the term of office of those members of the Nursing Board who are elected directly to the board by members of the nursing profession. Otherwise, the Minister could only extend the term of office of those members he appointed himself.

Rules 1 and 2 of the Second Schedule to the Nurses Act, 1985, which this subsection overrides, relate to the tenure of office of the members of the board. They state that every member of the board shall hold office for a period of five years and that no member shall hold office for more than two consecutive terms of five years. As some members of the current board have served two consecutive terms of five years, their membership could not be extended without this provision. Subsection (2) provides that the Minister may, once only, extend the term of office of the members mentioned in subsection (1) by a further period not exceeding 12 months.

Subsection (3) was inserted by way of a Ministerial amendment during the Committee Stage in the other House. It allows the Minister to make the order with retrospective effect. The term of office of all 29 members of An Bord Altranais expired on 3 October 1996.

Senator Sherlock raised the issue of the choice that boards sometimes make between leasing and purchasing properties. If there are specific difficulties there perhaps the Senator would communicate them to the Minister. I will see that he expects the Senator's representations in that regard.

The other issue was the proposed abolition of the local health committees. Section 16(3) of the Bill provides for the formal dissolution of the local health committees. The Health Act, 1970, required the Minister to make regulations establishing local health committees to advise the health boards on the provision of services in the functional areas of the committees. Local committees were duly established for each county with additional committees for Dun Laoghaire and the county boroughs of Limerick and Dublin. In the case of Cork, three committees were established, covering Cork North, Cork West and Cork City South.

In July 1987, the Government decided as part of a review of health spending that the local health committees should be abolished. An appropriate reduction was made in health board allocations from 1 January 1988 but the necessary legislative changes were not made. While most of the local committees ceased to operate, committees continued to meet in Cork North and South for some time afterwards. The members did not receive any expenses during this period. Eventually these committees also ceased to operate.

The Minister has had representations from Senator Sherlock on this matter and representations opposing the abolition of the local committees have also been received from the Association of Health Boards in Ireland, which represents the collective view of health board members. The Minister's view is that that the committees were ineffectual and their absence has not had a negative impact on the provision of services or on local democracy, since public representatives continue to hold the majority on all health boards.

The case for restoring local health committees has been considerably reduced by new functions given to local authorities in the Local Government Act, 1991. Section 5 empowers local authorities to represent the interests of the local community in such manners as it thinks appropriate and, in particular, to ascertain and communicate to other public authorities the views of the local community on the functions of those authorities. I will convey the Senator's views to the Minister as expressed in the debate here today.

Senator Maloney spoke of the provision of services for those who are using drugs and I assure him, as someone who represents a constituency outside the greater Dublin area, that I share his view that resources should be shared evenly throughout the country. The fundamental distinction is between the opiate problem in the Dublin area and the so-called softer drugs. Perhaps that is the wrong term to use but it is used to differentiate between these drugs, opiates and harder drugs.

After the Government decision last February, each health board was asked to produce a plan on the development of drug services and those plans were returned to the Department. Further recommendations are part of the recent report of the ministerial task force in the matter. The health boards have the responsibility for providing the services in the first instance. I assure Senator Maloney that I am very committed, as is the Government, to ensuring that the full services are provided over time in all areas of the country.

Senator Farrell spoke earlier in glowing terms of the North-Western Health Board. I was in their functional area today at a very encouraging project which is being launched in County Leitrim. All the children who have entered fourth class in primary schools in Leitrim are now part of a project to make Leitrim smoke free. The children will be monitored from fourth class in primary school until the end of second year in secondary school. The important aspect of this project is that the whole community is involved in it. A statistic which I used today, and which I use very often, is that 6,000 people die in this country every year from smoking induced ailments such as cancer, chronic bronchitis and emphysema.

I stress that the bottom line as far as health promotion is concerned is that people should take responsibility for their health and make lifestyle changes that can have a good effect on their health. No lifestyle change would have a greater effect for good than if people stopped smoking and, more importantly, if young people did not take up smoking. There are other aspects to health promotion such as healthy eating, exercise, etc. Basically the health promotion strategy seeks to change the Department from what some would regard as a Department of disease into a Department of health. It seeks to encourage people to adopt much healthier lifestyles so that there is less need for hospital services.

I thank Senators for their constructive and worthwhile contributions to the debate. I welcome the general approval for the Bill and commend it to the House.

Question put and agreed to.

When is it proposed to take Committee Stage?

On Wednesday week, subject to the approval of the Whips.

Committee Stage ordered for Wednesday, 30 October 1996.

When is it proposed to sit again?

Tomorrow at 10.30 a.m.

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