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Seanad Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 23 Jan 2024

Vol. 298 No. 4

Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters

Foreign Birth Registration

I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Jack Chambers, for attending. The foreign births register is a particular register held by the Department of Foreign Affairs and is also known as the citizenship by descent register. Its normal use is in the context of passports being claimed by people who are perhaps the children of Irish citizens living abroad, and it is the method by which they obtain an Irish passport. However, it also has particular uses and requirements within Ireland. For example, if an individual becomes a naturalised Irish citizen and their child is born abroad, that child needs to go on the foreign births register.

There is a particular issue in regard to surrogacy, given that children born by international surrogacy, by virtue of the way it is, are born abroad. DNA is taken at the time of the birth. That is matched to the Irish citizen biological father and the child obtains an emergency travel document to come home to Ireland with the family. The entitlement is the fact that this is the biological child of an Irish citizen. If that Irish citizen happens to be a naturalised Irish citizen, the child, in order to obtain a passport, must then be entered onto the foreign births register.

By the time the family get to make that application, they have already had judicial oversight of all of their documentation because that father has had to apply to the courts for a parental order for the setting aside of consent of the surrogate in order to proceed. In itself, that is a process that can take anything from a couple of months to 18 months or a couple of years. The particular cases that I am concerned about are ones where the application has been made for the child to be entered onto the foreign births register, but well over a year later, there is no sign of that child being issued with a passport.

The website itself states that it is going to take a nine-month process, and I understand there are legalities. If I am applying from a foreign country with regard to my father, my grandfather, my mother or my grandmother, I understand that all of that needs to be verified. However, we have a situation where there are children for whom all of the documentation has already received judicial oversight in the country, and they are just slotted onto the list. They are living here but they cannot visit relations abroad or go abroad. I know of one particular case where a father had applied, and I am not even mentioning second fathers and mothers because we do not have legal standing in Ireland at the moment, although we will soon, hopefully. In the case of that one child in particular, the couple were desperate to get home to Lithuania to visit a dying great-grandmother of the baby. She died, but there was no way of expediting the process and no way of pushing them up the list, even though everything that is before the Department of Foreign Affairs has already had judicial oversight.

There is an appallingly long delay in the Department of Foreign Affairs. In instances like that, it is an unwarranted delay. It is a very straightforward system. The people are living here in the country and could go in to give oaths or do whatever is needed. There is no problem with the documentation but they are not getting anywhere fast. In one case, we are now 13 months down the road and no one will even answer a phone to this guy, send him an email or do anything. Either there is a lack of staffing or a lack of willingness - one of the two - and it needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency.

I thank Senator Seery Kearney for raising this issue, which I am taking on behalf of the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs.

The Passport Service of the Department of Foreign Affairs is responsible for processing applications for citizenship by descent through the foreign births register under the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act 1956, as amended. As the Senator will be aware, people born abroad may apply for Irish citizenship through foreign birth registration, FBR, if one of their grandparents was born in Ireland or if one of their parents acquired citizenship through FBR or naturalisation. Once a person is entered onto the foreign births register, they are an Irish citizen and are entitled to apply for an Irish passport. Foreign birth registration, by its nature, is a detailed and complex process. It can involve official documentation relating to three generations and issued by several different jurisdictions. To protect the integrity of the citizenship process, these applications require careful processing in order to validate the identity of the applicant, the documents they have submitted and their entitlement to Irish citizenship. Accordingly, all applications undergo rigorous and detailed checking by experienced officers of the Passport Service.

Demand for foreign birth registration services reached unprecedented levels following the Brexit referendum in 2016. Prior to that referendum, FBR applications averaged 5,000 to 6,000 per year. However, post referendum, demand for citizenship via foreign birth registration has increased significantly. The most recent full-year figures saw over 35,000 applications received by the Passport Service in 2023. Prior to the Covid-19 pandemic, the processing time for foreign birth registration applications stood at 18 months due to the dramatic increase in applications as a result of Brexit. The FBR service was also impacted by necessary Covid-19 restrictions in 2020 and 2021, as well as the unprecedented demand seen in 2022. The service was paused for 15 months across the 2020 to 2021 period, after which the turnaround time was over two years.

Since September 2022, significant extra resources have been deployed. I am pleased to inform the Senator that as a result of the deployment of these resources, the processing time has been reduced to the normal turnaround time of between eight and nine months, which is a 75% reduction in processing time since 2022.

In the medium term, changes to the foreign birth registration process to increase efficiencies and improve the customer experience will be delivered under the next phase of the Department’s passport reform programme. I assure the Seanad that the Department of Foreign Affairs is fully committed to maintaining the necessary resources needed to assist with dealing with the high volume of applications.

I recognise the specific context of the case the Senator has outlined, which should receive the attention of officials in the Department of Foreign Affairs. We will ask for that engagement and that the matter be reflected on based on what she has set out today.

I really appreciate the Minister of State's reply. An Irish passport is a precious document and there should be no shortcuts in applying for it for people who are abroad and probably already have a passport of the country in which they live. Where a British citizen is seeking an Irish passport on the basis of descent, for example, that is a reasonable proposition. The case I have outlined is not the same. These are children who have no other state. It has been adjudicated on by the High Court that they are Irish citizens. There are orders and documentation from the court to that effect. DNA has been produced. All of that evidence was put before the court and the latter has issued orders.

My argument is that there should be a red-circled group of applicants and an expedited list. The persons I referred to should jump to the top because they do not have another passport. The family to which I referred is prohibited from travelling, full stop, because the parents will not travel without their baby. It is unreasonable that an Irish citizen child resident in this country is denied a passport or the issuing of a passport is delayed because of this issue. I completely respect that the process needs to be robust but I am referring to a special group. I am asking for a red-circling of that group and special treatment for it.

I thank the Senator again for the opportunity to update the Seanad on the foreign birth registration process. The passport service is fully committed to ensuring the timeframe of eight to nine months as we go forward. An average of 900 applications are approved each week, with 29,000 applications currently awaiting processing. The FBR team provides an emergency service for foreign birth registration in cases of exceptional urgency such as for expectant parents or stateless persons. The passport service continues to work closely with the HR division and the Public Appointments Service to recruit additional staff to meet the current and forecast demand for both passports and foreign birth registration.

In the context of the national development plan, the Government is making a major investment in the future of the passport service. Over the next couple of years, the Department will replace the core technology underpinning the service, which will deliver efficiencies to the foreign birth registration and passport services. I assure the Seanad of the importance the Government attaches to the integrity of the FBR process, which processes these applications for Irish citizenship in a timely manner. We will reflect on the Senator's wider point regarding the sensitivity around cases involving children. I thank her for raising the issue.

I thank the Minister of State.

Community Development Projects

I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Joe O'Brien. I thank the Cathaoirleach for selecting this matter. It relates to the community recognition fund, to which €50 million has been given. At first glance, it seems to be covering a lot of areas that should be covered in any case because they are not solely and exclusively to do with community integration. Allocations include €50,000 and €60,000 to private rugby clubs across the State and a whole range of other projects. I am delighted that funding is being given to sport and I recognise the importance of it. However, this scheme is being dressed up as some sort of community recognition fund. On 16 January 2024, the Taoiseach said in an interview broadcast on an RTÉ news bulletin in which he referenced the fund - I double-checked it before coming here - that more needs to be done to support health and education. I fully agree with him because they are the key pressure points for people. He was speaking in response to some of the unseemly things that have been going on in this country in regard to new people coming here and looking to establish themselves. In many cases, they have general support from communities and from local and national politicians.

Having listened to the interview with the Taoiseach, I decided to take it upon myself to look into the community recognition fund. The Department of Rural and Community Development issued a memorandum in 2023 outlining the purpose of the scheme. I commend the scheme and am very supportive of it. I took a further look because I wanted to see the county-by-county allocations. Thanks to the Department, I obtained a printout of every project that was listed as being a successful application under the fund. When I totted up the numbers, they told me an interesting story - first, about the geographical spread and how open and transparent that was or was not and, second, about how much money was drawn down. The initial memorandum referred to €30 million being drawn down in 2023 and €20 million this year.

I support the Taoiseach's call for greater additional focus on and support for education and health, which are two areas that are showing pressure points in many cases. I endorse that. I support the community recognition fund and the amazing work going on right across the Minister of State's Department. It is an exemplary Department that is doing really important work in recognising the enormous pressures on communities. The information on the fund refers to engaging with local authorities. The latter may make submissions for funding but will not necessarily get all of it. Given the restraints on resources at this time, the system needs to be more open and transparent. It may very well be all of that but I refer specifically to the need for more openness and transparency in terms of how the Department communicates its allocations.

The Minister of State will be familiar with the county-by-county ledger that sets out the allocations under the fund. He may not be in a position to provide the information today but I would like to know how much of the fund has been drawn for particular identified projects that are fully compliant with the terms and conditions of the scheme and how much remains to be drawn down. From reading all the correspondence, press releases and memorandums, I understand €30 million was to be given in 2023. Will he confirm whether that money has been allocated? I acknowledge that it may not all have been drawn down because there are difficulties in getting projects up and running. How can the scheme be improved? I call for a greater focus on education and health, in line with the Taoiseach's statement. Will the Minister of State set out his plans to do that?

I thank the Senator for raising this matter. I will give an initial response and then follow up with further information in my second reply.

The community recognition fund is managed by the Department of Rural and Community Development and delivered locally by each of the local authorities around the country. The €50 million fund was introduced this time last year and I was delighted, together with the Taoiseach and the Minister, Deputy Humphreys, to be able to announce the details of the successful projects last May. The scheme recognises the contribution being made by communities that have welcomed significant numbers of new arrivals from Ukraine and other countries. It is important to note that this funding is separate from other public funding streams that aim to support the development of public services arising from the significant number of new arrivals into Ireland. The community recognition fund is specifically designed to support the development of community facilities that will be used in the future by all members of the community.

Through this initiative, communities are being assisted to develop a wide range of projects in terms of both their scale and their scope. They include large-scale multipurpose sports facilities, walkways, cycle paths and playgrounds, with smaller amounts given for equipment for sports clubs and funding for community festivals. The fund has been allocated across all local authorities based on the number of new arrivals located there. The projects were selected following an extensive community consultation process undertaken by local authorities, which submitted individual lists of projects for approval. The focus was very much on funding projects in the towns and villages most impacted. More than 880 projects were approved for funding through the €50 million allocation and they are due to be completed by the end of this year.

Details of the allocation provided to each local authority and the projects approved for funding are available on my Department's website. The allocations varied across local authorities depending on the numbers of new arrivals located there, including both people from Ukraine and international protection applicants. The largest allocation was just over €4.4 million for County Kerry. The next highest was €3.1 million for County Donegal. The smallest allocation was €653,000 for County Longford.

The fund was established to be as user-friendly as possible, with significant flexibility provided as regards the types of projects that can be supported. In addition, funding of up to 100% of the project costs was available, with no matching funding required from local communities.

The Department is also committed to providing every assistance to groups to facilitate project delivery, including with regard to managing funding drawdown in a way that facilitates community groups managing their cash flow.

The Department is in ongoing contact with local authorities in relation to progressing the delivery of projects under the fund. Local authorities are submitting funding draw-down requests to the Department in respect of these projects as they are completed.

Of the over 880 projects approved for funding, 185 have been completed and €11.5 million has been drawn down from the fund. A total of 333 projects have submitted a partial or final draw-down claim.

I agree with the Senator on the importance of health and education. Health, in particular, comes up when we are engaging with communities around the need for increased GP services. I wrote to the Minister, Deputy Stephen Donnelly, on this matter recently. In his response, the Minister explained that the Department implemented a number of measures last year in consultation with the Irish College of General Practitioners which allowed the ICGP to increase the number of places in the training colleges and create a programme to upskill people coming from abroad to work as GPs in Ireland. This programme successfully brought 100 people into the system last year. This year, it is planned to add another 250 people through the programme. There is, therefore, responsiveness in this regard.

I will address some of the Senator's other points in my closing statement.

I thank the Minister of State for his detailed response. He indicated that more than 880 projects have been approved for funding, 185 have been completed and €11.5 million has been partly drawn down from the fund. I presume the full €50 million will be spent given that it has been ring-fenced and earmarked. Based on the Minister of State's response, there is a hell of a lot of money in the pot. If it is not to be drawn down, I suggest we go back to the local authorities and see what is the reality of drawing down the funds. Some of projects are very simple, for example, multi-user sports facilities. All of them are critically important. I am glad the Minister of State clarified that these projects are for the benefit of broader society and the broader community.

We talk so much about central government devolving more powers, yet we have central government allocating €1,500 to a local authority for a local playground. That begs the question as to who should be doing this.

This programme is positive and I am particularly delighted the Minister of State touched on the point I made about health and education. That is what the Taoiseach has committed himself to. When one goes through each project funded under the scheme, one sees very few education or health interventions, which are critically important for the integration of people into our community. I thank the Minister of State for his detailed response.

To clarify, the Government is looking at how we can further support impacted towns and villages across a range of different public services. I look forward to seeing the proposals that emerge on that in the coming weeks. For now, specifically in relation to community recognition, the focus is very much on getting the approved projects delivered on the ground. These projects can only make a difference when they are operational and my Department is committed to working with all parties to ensure that happens as quickly as possible. I am confident that these projects will deliver real and lasting benefits to many communities which have been awarded funding under the community recognition fund.

My experience in the Department has been that it has a strong focus and record of working with local authorities to get capital projects done. These have a fairly predictable trajectory. When a timeline is open to get something done, the number of completions tends to increase. I think the Senator will see the number of completions accelerate as we work through the year.

Local authorities did not see this coming which meant they had to start from a standstill. We asked them to look at available projects on which they could move fast. They were not expecting the fund, so it took off slowly but the allocations being drawn down on the ground are increasing.

EU Bodies

I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Richmond, for coming to the House to discuss the unified patent system and Unified Patent Court. While I appreciate that this issue may not necessarily knock other issues off the front pages, for those involved in developing patents and intellectual property creation, ensuring that those rights can be protected and vindicated right across the European Union is critical. We should make that process as streamlined and easy as possible.

As the Minister of State will be aware, Ireland signed up to the unified patent system and as a creative, entrepreneurial country, it is critical that we are part of it. The system has now commenced and 17 of the 27 EU member states are taking part in it. Ireland has indicated its clear intention to do so but, as the Minister of State will be aware, a referendum is required because of the establishment of the Unified Patent Court.

I have been raising the importance of Ireland joining the system for over three years. I understand the Minister, Deputy Coveney, is going to Cabinet today. I ask the Minister of State to indicate whether the referendum will take place in June along with the local and European elections. It is critical that it take place on that date. If we have a stand-alone referendum, it will be difficult to get sufficient enthusiasm around this issue, so holding it on that date is crucial.

It is essential that we start a campaign at an early date to explain exactly what is involved. One of the concerns we often have in Ireland is that referendums end up being about topics that are nothing to do with what is on the ballot paper. For Irish industry and, in particular, people who are developing new ideas or creations, it is important to ensure that patents are protected and recognised and the system is streamlined throughout Europe.

It is essential that there is a Government campaign to explain what is involved and that we also make sure the debate is not diluted in the context of a European election when all sorts of issues are likely to be raised. It is also essential to build a campaign among relevant organisations which have an interest in this area to ensure we get this referendum over the line and Ireland becomes an active member of this system.

I had tabled this Commencement matter in advance of hearing that the matter would go to Cabinet. I hope the Minister of State can confirm the arrangements.

As someone about to undergo my patent examinations, I am interested in the Minister of State's answer.

The Cathaoirleach Gníomhach, Senator Seery Kearney, can share her notes with me if she likes.

I thank Senator Malcolm Byrne, not only for raising this issue this morning but for doing so consistently throughout his time in the Upper House. The Senator is dead right. This is a really important issue for Irish businesses and inventors and so many people in Ireland and beyond who will benefit from all these new creations and inventions and the business and commerce that will flow from them.

I can confirm that the Minister, Deputy Coveney, is bringing a proposal to Cabinet this morning to agree a date for the referendum alongside the local and European elections, which are due to take place on the first weekend of June. The Minister will seek approval for the priority drafting of a Bill to give effect to the proposed constitutional amendment.

In May, I attended the inauguration of the Unified Patent Court in Luxembourg and I was able to clearly see the benefits that this system will bring to Ireland, our businesses of all sizes and individuals. Put simply, this system will allow businesses to avail of a single patent that will take effect across 17 EU member states, rather than purchasing a patent in each of these countries. The savings for businesses speak for themselves. If a company holds a patent for ten years, the average lifetime, it will cost it less than €4,700. If the company were to buy these patents in these individual countries, it would cost it over €30,000. This is an incredible opportunity for Irish businesses.

Many people have asked why this system requires a referendum here in Ireland when other member states have simply been able to join. Many of them were from other member states. In order to solve any disputes that may arise, members will join a unified patent court, which requires an amendment to Article 29 of the Constitution. For this reason, we must have a referendum. If Ireland ratifies the international agreement, which I very much hope we will, we will become the 18th participant in the Unified Patent Court.

The benefits of this system go far beyond the cost savings to our businesses, although this is crucially important. We are lucky in Ireland that we have a strong pro-business reputation around the world and in the European Union.

We are attractive to multinationals and for investment in this light, membership of the UPC would certainly add to this. Should Ireland not join the UPC, we risk reputational damage. We do not want to see investment go elsewhere due to our non-participation in the court. The protection of international intellectual property is vital if we are to encourage innovation and invention in Ireland. If we want people to spend many years at the cutting edge of their field, they must know that their work is protected. Membership of the UPC is another string to our bow to protect this.

Regarding a dedicated information campaign from the Government, that can be taken as a given. Intellectual property falls under my brief in the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment. I intend to play a fully central role to ensure that we get this information out as widely as possible. The Senator mentioned the relevant organisations. There is already the starting of a relevant organisation bringing together legal practitioners, inventors and business people, many of them under the aegis of Enterprise Ireland and IBEC. They are already in place and chomping at the bit to get out a campaign. They have been knocking on my door for just over a year to get this to course.

There will need to be – this is unfortunately where politics kicks in – a dedicated political campaign. Senator Byrne and I have been involved in a heck of a lot of referenda over the years in all different matters but particularly European referenda. We know the importance of clear facts. We often hear buzz words such as “misinformation” and “disinformation”, and this referendum is ripe for that. We know the same old tropes. The same people, who are not in the Chamber today, who said “No” to an EU army and all these other things to stop the Nice and Lisbon treaties, and even used it in their European election campaign, will be at it again, although I have noticed in the past couple of days that some of them are suddenly converts to the cause of Europe.

This will require a strong political campaign. I hope politicians of all parties and those in these Houses and local authorities will be able to work with local businesses and legal practitioners. More importantly, I hope people will benefit from these patents in due course – the people who will possibly need those patents for new treatments and new drugs down the line. We will come together and get this over the line in June. I look forward to returning to Luxembourg as a full member of the court at the end of the summer.

I welcome that. I think we should work together and look in a cross-party way to try to generate support for this referendum. It will require a bit of explaining. Having been asked about it on local radio, it is not always the easiest thing to explain. It is important for those creating intellectual property that we are able to vindicate and respect that right across Europe and it is important for the opportunity for enterprise in Ireland as well. I have the fear that during the referendum, people will use it as a soapbox and talk about issues that do not have anything to do with it. That is why it is critical that a campaign gets up and running early and does not start to be confused with other issues. I welcome the Minister of State’s commitment in that regard.

I think we were both involved in canvassing for the fiscal stability treaty in 2012 when we were fresh-faced councillors. I remember the research from that referendum. The two biggest issues of concern that came up were in respect of the fiscal compact treaty were abortion and conscription into an EU army. Those were of absolutely no relevance to the question being put to the people but that is what happens when you allow disinformation and misinformation to fill the gap of silence. We cannot let that happen.

Following the passing of the legislation through the Houses of the Oireachtas, the Electoral Commission will be responsible for explaining the referendum proposal in an independent and impartial way. It also has a role to promote public awareness of referenda and encourage people to vote. I look forward to it playing its part, however, we also have to take that political responsibility seriously.

In conclusion, we all know that referenda can become convoluted, but the case for the Unified Patent Court is absolutely obvious. If Ireland wants to continue being a hub for investment and research and if we want to support our researchers, inventors, entrepreneurs and businesses of all sizes, involvement in the UPC is how we go about that. It is absolutely vital to the future economic and societal stability of this State that we sign up to the UPC and pass this referendum hopefully by a massive margin.

Disability Services

I welcome the students from Dalkey School Project in Dún Laoghaire. They are guests of Senator Barry Ward and they are very welcome to the Seanad.

I welcome the Minister of State to the House.

I welcome the students and I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Rabbitte, to the Chamber to take this Commencement matter about setting up one-stop shops in Ireland to provide for all those on the autism spectrum.

One may ask what one-stop shops are. They are basically community-based supports for young children and adults on the autism spectrum. They were first introduced in Scotland as part of its autism strategy. The services provide barrier-free supports to individuals and families created by autistic persons and are responsive to the needs in each individual locality. Some of the services and supports they provide are advice and information services, drop-in sessions, one-to-one appointments, peer support groups, support for transitions, social activities, support and advice to access services within the community, parent groups, information and advice for professionals and supports developed in partnership with other local organisations and public services.

It is a community-based model that will be collocated with existing support services and staffed by a range of non-clinical professionals providing complementary, rather than competing, services to the CDNTs and disability services, which is a key point. It also provides important opportunities for promoting autistic self-advocacy and providing employment within the community.

A number of members of the joint committee, of which I was Chair, visited Scotland in October. We met with the Scottish health minister, department of health officials and a significant number of autism advocates who work with the Scottish health department developing legislation. One of the key points we brought back from Scotland was the success of the model as it is there. We strongly believe it needs to be implemented here.

To give background, AsIAm, a significant organisation supporting those on the autistic spectrum, recently produced its Same Chance report. Less than one third of those represented in the report, in which 1,603 took part, reported receiving support from their local CDNT. Of those not receiving supports, the vast majority, some 68%, were on waiting lists, whereas others were simply outside of the system. That cannot continue. Over a quarter, some 26%, of those on the waiting lists were reported to be expecting to wait more than four years to access the services they need. More than 15,000 are waiting for first-time assessments for occupational therapy, 15,000 are waiting for speech and language assessments, more than 8,000 are waiting for further SLT therapy and 16,000 are waiting for psychology treatment. These are significant challenges. The waiting lists for assessments remain extensive and there is a recruitment crisis within disability services.

While there is an urgent need to reduce waiting times and improve pathways to the multidisciplinary supports for autistic children and adults, there is an important opportunity to build on the complementary – “complementary” is a key word – supports within the community to provide timely support to families in the current context.

I know the Minister of State read our report and was very supportive of the committee. This is one point that has come up from a number of organisations we met with that gave testimony to the committee and was key to our report. The NDA was very supportive of the one-stop shop. Indeed, Áine Lawlor of the IASLT spoke to the committee and highlighted the positivity of a one-stop shop, highlighting the fact that there were pockets of services that work very well and we have excellent skills and clinicians who can provide support but what about the families and the people involved?

What about the other supports for them? That is a significant challenge for us but this can be the answer. Will the Government support the piloting of a model of a one-stop shop which has been successful in our neighbouring country with a similar sized population? Scotland had an autism innovation strategy from 2011 to 2021. They have reviewed it and are moving forward but this is one thing that has proven successful. It can be successful in this country. I want the Government to introduce a pilot and recognise the opportunities it will provide, including in the context of the HSE children's disability grant round and the forthcoming autism innovation strategy on which I know the Minister is working and which we are waiting to see shortly.

At the outset, I acknowledge the interest of Members of this House in issues surrounding autism. In particular, I thank Senator Carrigy for raising the important issue of the provision of information and services for autistic people. As Minister of State with responsibility for disability, I have consistently sought to advance a national action on autism to address the bespoke challenges that autistic people face today in Ireland. These challenges occur at all stages and in all facets of life, from healthcare, education and employment, among other areas. Some of these challenges relate to access to services as the Senator quite rightly outlined. Some relate to access to information about the services. As Minister of State for disability, I often speak with people who are wondering if they or a loved one might be autistic, along with people who have been diagnosed or self-identify as autistic, and who are asking themselves what they should do and where they can access supports. In those cases, we need to make sure we are giving people the information they need on the supports available. On World Autism Awareness Day in 2021, I announced the Government’s intention to develop a national strategy on autism. If the Senator will bear with me, I will bring him up to speed on that. This has taken the form of an autism innovation strategy, which I intend to launch later this year following a final round of public consultation which will commence later this month. The Government is committed to better meeting the needs of autistic people and their families. In the context of the development of this strategy, work is under way to explore methods of providing enhanced information, signposting of information, and supports regarding autism for autistic people and their families. I want to deliver a shift in the mainstream provision of services which will focus on clear functional actions to identify gaps and bespoke needs on autism that are not accounted for in existing mainstream measures, and to make sure that after the autism innovation strategy, mainstream provision better understands and better meets the needs of autistic people. While I am not yet in a position to outline the specific action plan that will launch within the strategy, I will shortly be in a position to launch the final round of consultation and to set out the programme of work the whole of government will undertake.

To be very clear to the Senator, I have done some individual research on the one-stop shop. I heard members of the committee had travelled to Scotland. When in opposition, I set about looking at dementia, as did the Minister of State, Deputy Butler, and the Scottish model. Hence, she has opened 45 day care centres relating specifically to dementia and that all come from the Scottish model. Therefore, I have looked towards Scotland as well and believe in the piloting of the one-stop shop to see how it would work. I have no doubt it would be a success. It would be a success in an area in which there is a gap that the CDNTs cannot fill, that is, the information piece around the questions people have such as "Am I autistic?", "Where can I go?" and "How can I be assisted?" and proper correct signposting of this. Our CDNTs are under phenomenal pressure and need additional support. Our educational system is also under huge pressure. I am talking about the people under 18 here, never mind how the autistic child or young person who is transitioning at 18 years of age into education or adult education can be supported within third level or as they transition into employment. Therefore, the one-stop shop would be able to signpost and address this, and colocated within the community, to best meet the individual needs. It would have the peer-to-peer leadership piece. At the moment, people in Galway or Longford who are autistic are travelling to one side of the country to be able to participate in that. We need to have a more community-balanced regional development when it comes to supporting young and not so young people who have identified as autistic or who have autistic needs. The only way to do that is through mirroring the Scottish model.

I thank the Senator and the committee for the time and effort they put in to develop a consultation booklet at the close of the committee, within which the need for the community-based approach is also identified. I am hoping there will be the opportunity in this round of HSE grants to identify and work to that piece and take on board the recommendations made by the committee, in consultation with the main stakeholders and partners who all came before the committee. I will be impressing upon the HSE that is it a desire of the Government to see a community pathway developed outside the Dublin commuter belt out into the rest of the country. I will come back in and answer the rest of the questions as to how this will be done.

I thank the Minister of State. First, I must highlight the fact of the funding she made available to AsIAm for the information line for parents. There is an access point there which must be complimented because as a parent, on hearing those words, you do not know where to go or where to turn and it is important that these supports were put in place. The Minister of State has highlighted the fact that support is colocated within the community. There is a model there and it works. We have met the officials as has the Minister of State. We need to put the funding in place to deliver it.

It was remiss of me not to mention AsIAm and the telephone line which we launched 18 months or two years ago at this stage. In the first year of operation, it had over 5,500 calls from callers wondering how to assist their children or teenagers and from young adults themselves asking how to access a diagnosis and engage in education. That telephone line has proved its worth in spades. That is why I am saying we need that personal face as well. We need to have the peer-to-peer support groups, the parental group, and the community-based model given that one in 27 within education is now identifying as being on the autism spectrum. With one in 27 people in any community space, we need to have a more accessible inclusive integrated community-based model of support. I support, as does the Government, the Senator's ask today.

Cuireadh an Seanad ar fionraí ar 11.17 a.m. agus cuireadh tús leis arís ar 11.30 a.m.
Sitting suspended at 11. 17 a.m. and resumed at 11.30 a.m.
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