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Dáil Éireann Debate, Wednesday - 28 April 2010

Wednesday, 28 April 2010

Questions (9)

Joan Burton

Question:

41 Deputy Joan Burton asked the Minister for Finance his views on the latest quarterly national accounts which showed a record 11.3% fall in GNP for 2009; his further views on the most recent quarterly national household survey which showed that the total number of persons unemployed added to those outside the labour force, but interested in finding work, increased from 10.8% at end 2008 to 16.5% at end 2009 and emigration and participation trends; his views on the end of March quarterly Exchequer returns which showed a revenue shortfall of more than €1.2 billion compared to the same period last year; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [17526/10]

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Preliminary quarterly national accounts data show that the volume of GNP contracted by 11.3% last year. While this was the largest decline on record and represents a very significant decline in our living standards, it was not unexpected. In the December 2009 budget, my Department had assumed a double-digit contraction for GNP last year of the order of 10.5% and a 7.5% decline in GDP. The preliminary data show that the decline in GDP last year was 7.1%.

I am advised that the very sharp fall in national income last year was due mainly to a large decline in consumer spending and a contraction of nearly 50% in the level of new house building. In addition, the volume of exports fell last year, although given the prevailing international climate our export performance was relatively good.

In terms of the labour market, I understand that quarterly national household survey data show that when those outside the labour force but who are interested in finding work are added to the number of unemployed, the rate increased to 16.5% in the final quarter of last year compared with 10.8% a year earlier. Such developments are a matter of concern for Government and this is why we have taken decisive action to stabilise the public finances, to rectify our banking system and to facilitate an improvement in competitiveness. Action in these areas is essential to ensure economic recovery and, hence, an improvement in the labour market.

While quarterly national household survey data are the widest measure of labour market developments, they lag behind live register data. I understand these latter data are available for the first quarter of this year and that they provide some evidence that unemployment is close to its peak. However, a decline in the size of the labour force is part of the reason for this and the Government is under no illusion in this regard. The labour force is declining for two reasons, outward migration and falling participation rates.

In terms of migration, I am advised that the number of non-Irish nationals in the labour force is estimated to have declined by 33,600, 10%, year-on-year in the fourth quarter of 2009. While no firm data are yet available, there is also considerable anecdotal evidence of outward migration of Irish nationals. I am also informed that the labour force participation rate fell by 1.7 percentage points year-on-year in the fourth quarter of last year, although participation rates remain higher than the euro area average. The budget day forecast is for unemployment to average 13.25% this year. While this is still too high, it must be remembered that this time last year some commentators were projecting an unemployment rate in excess of 16% for this year.

There is now mounting evidence that economic conditions are stabilising and most commentators now expect a resumption of positive growth from the second half of this year. As the economy gains momentum, we can expect a positive dividend in the labour market, both in terms of reduced unemployment and the return of many recent migrants.

Turning to the public finances, the Exchequer deficit at end-March 2010, at €3.9 billion, was generally in line with expectations for that point of the year. Tax and expenditure performances to end-March were broadly in line with my budget plan. At this early stage it is unwise to draw too much from the monthly data as there is considerable volatility in the figures. My Department continues to analyse the emerging trends and I have no reason to change my view in relation to budget day targets. When data for the first half of the year become available, a clearer picture will become evident.

While the Minister and his Government remain obsessed with bailing out the banks and the developers, will he not agree that the greatest single social and economic challenge facing the country is to get nearly half a million people back to work? Will the Minister say what measures, if any, he proposes to stem the relentless rise in unemployment, under-employment and emigration? In case the Minister is not aware of it, there are literally hundreds of thousands of people on short weeks, three-day and four-day weeks. This is as a result of a desperate effort by small and medium-sized employers in particular, to hold on to people and to give them some work. I note from the figures provided by the Minister there is a significant flow of emigration. The only reason the unemployment figures are slightly better than expected is because Fianna Fáil has returned the country to the valve of emigration. We are emigrating some of our best and brightest. What measures, if any, does the Government have to give hope to people that they can get employment in this country?

I am not sure what the Deputy's question is because what was said was in the nature of a political statement. The policy of the Government in this matter is, first, to stabilise the public finances. Dramatic progress has been made in that regard. The reduction required in 2009, as a result of the various budgetary measures, was 4% and the envisaged reduction or adjustment is 2.5% this year in GDP terms. These reductions have been commented upon here and elsewhere as being essential to put this country on a competitive path. The second pillar of Government policy is competition. Clearly, the adjustment in the public finances has dramatically improved competitive conditions in the economy, with reductions in prices of goods and reductions in the cost of labour. This has made Ireland a more attractive place in which to invest and work.

With regard to banking, the Deputy, as she always does, took an opportunity to preface her statement with the defamatory suggestion that I am engaged in bailing out people. I am engaged in bailing out the economy which is very important and it requires a functioning banking business. I recall on 29 September 2008, on the night of the guarantee, the Deputy was willing to let all funding dry up in the banks on that occasion, which would have led to far more unemployment and far more serious economic dislocation in this country. That is now accepted by all reputable economic commentators. The Deputy can continue to peddle economic illusions to the people or she can face up to the realities as this Government has had to do and address the hard economic realities that require to be addressed.

Where is the Minister's jobs plan for the people who are out of work and who are taking the plane and the boat again to emigrate and leave the country where they were educated and had reasonable hope of making a living for themselves and their families? For the Minister to throw dust in the eyes of those people and have nothing to say to them is little short of a national disgrace. The Minister spoke about the sacrifices of Irish workers in both the public and private sectors on his €4 billion adjustment. That €4 billion adjustment, as EUROSTAT confirmed, was directly countered by the €4 billion the Minister put into Anglo Irish Bank which is a total waste of money. I acknowledge that on 29 September I told the Minister's officials there were problems with Anglo Irish Bank and Irish Nationwide Building Society. The Minister chose to believe in the crony friends of Fianna Fáil whereas I did not. If the Minister accuses me of that, I accept that accusation but where is the Minister's jobs plan? I ask him to show the House his jobs plan and to give hope to people who are out of work.

The Deputy is well aware there is no point in extending false and deceitful hopes to people, based on false policies, and standing up here every morning talking about jobs when she is incapable of creating a single one. The one thing that will create jobs is making the right economic decisions that will put this economy on a road to recovery. That is in what the Government has been engaged for the past two years, in the teeth of unrelenting opposition from the Deputy. This is what will restore jobs in this economy, not rhetoric and false promises——

Where is the Minister's plan?

——or illusions or magical banks, but real banks that are functioning, competitiveness in the economy, public finances in order——

Is Anglo a real bank?

——and extensive investment which has been made by the Government.

Is Anglo a real bank?

Please allow the Minister to respond.

Bank of Ireland is a real bank this week and the Deputy wanted to nationalise it a few months ago.

What about some hope?

Please allow the Minister to speak.

The position is that the Government has also invested substantially in job maintenance schemes. As part of an overall package, we are investing in training and retraining. There are record numbers in third level education, all of whom are preparing for an economic recovery, which all forecasters claim will be under way later this year.

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