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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 4 Mar 1976

Vol. 288 No. 9

Financial Resolutions, 1976. - Adjournment Debate: School Transport Service.

I should like to thank the Chair for allowing this motion to be brought up as it is urgent. I feel that when a question was asked we should have been able to get a full reply to it, because if the tickets were taken away from those children it meant that there must have been some reason for it, some decision on it, and for that reason I was disappointed when I was told there was further investigation needed.

As I said at the outset, these children were going to school by bus, some of them travelling free and some fare-paying. Just over two weeks ago, one evening, the inspector boarded the bus and took the tickets from the children. I have never heard of this happening before. I understood that when you had a ticket, even if you had gone over the distance, you were given the opportunity of staying on the bus until the end of the journey. As much as anything else, it would give the parents a chance during the school holidays to make alternative arrangements for the children to get to school. The weather has not been too bad since, and it has not been such a hardship on the children to travel to school.

This family, who were living on one side of the road, bought another farm across the road and moved in. They are now maintaining that they are nearer to Daingean school and that there can be only 200 yards at the most between the two gateways. This new house has an avenue leading to it. If the distance was measured up to the house you would find that it would be the same in both cases. For that reason, I feel there may have been some mistake when the measurements were being taken. On a number of occasions children have been found to be nearer another school, but because all the family had been attending the schools in Trim, or in their particular area, they were allowed to continue on, as naturally it would be a disruption of their education, particularly national education, if the children had to move to another school. For that reason there should have been more notice taken when it was decided to withdraw the tickets from those children. It was a hardship on them to be told at a moment's notice that the tickets were being withdrawn. It was in conflict with the normal procedure regarding the transporting of children to national schools.

I would ask the Parliamentary Secretary to reconsider this case and to return the tickets to the children. We should have got a full reply on this case and a decision should have been given when the parliamentary question was put down.

This is a complicated case. First of all, there is an incorrect statement in the Deputy's question in which he says the family moved across the road. Within the normal understanding of that term, that was not the case. According to the information provided by CIE, they moved 0.6 of a mile, which is a significant change of residence, and could affect the eligibility of the children. This matter, as we have advised generally, could have been taken up with CIE at local level when the matter arose and could have been dealt with more quickly. The withdrawal of service following this change of residence was made by the local CIE office. The Department of Education were not aware of it, but this is perfectly normal because CIE have an ongoing responsibility to review the situation to see if there are children who cease to be eligible because of such a thing as a change of residence of 0.6 of a mile.

There is an additional complication in this case in Trim. The younger children of this family are attending the convent school. According to CIE's information, the elder members of the family are attending the Christian Brothers' school. With regard to national schools, the distance is measured from the gate of the school to the house. The anomalous situation arose as a result of this move of 0.6 of a mile. The younger children remained eligible because the convent is that bit further away, whereas the older children, by virtue of the move, and combined with the fact that the Brothers' school is in a different location, ceased to be eligible. In view of the fact that we prefer to keep a family together when we got the Deputy's question rather than saying this is the situation, we said that we wanted time to investigate the matter. When an assurance is given in the House that a matter will be investigated in response to a parliamentary question, I can assure the House that it is dealt with with the utmost speed. As a result of inquiries a decision has been reached in the Department in the last day or so to restore the facility which had been lost, and I can tell the House that that is the case.

The Deputy is the judge of his own business in these matters, but I should like to assure him and the House that if a problem of this urgency does arise—and I do not deny for one moment that it is an important case for the Deputy and the family concerned—the best approach is to see me about it and we will try to solve the problem in that manner, rather than bringing it up on the Adjournment, which is an exceptional parliamentary measure. The Deputy is entitled to adopt whatever procedure he wishes, but I want to place on record that, as far as I am concerned, it is not necessary for him to raise the matter on the Adjournment to get me to deal with the matter as speedily as I can.

The Dáil adjourned at 5.10 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 9th March, 1976.

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