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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 15 Jun 1978

Vol. 307 No. 8

Adjournment Debate: Food Price Increases .

: Today's increases in butter and bread prices constitute what one might call Fianna Fáil's anniversary present to the electorate. The two increases are 6½p on a pound of butter and 1p on a pound loaf of bread. The increase in the price of butter amounts to 12 per cent of the present price.

The failure of the Government to subsidise price increases brought about by the EEC represents a reversal of the policy followed by the previous Government. Even in times of the most stringent financial circumstances, even in the middle of a recession, they sought to subsidise basic consumer prices against increases under the CAP. The present decision not to subsidise consumers for the latest increases is, in our opinion, the first concrete indication that the Government are reviewing their policy of subsidising consumer prices to offset EEC price rises. We had an indication of that last weekend when the Minister for Finance in The Sunday Press foreshadowed the change of policy by the Government with regard to consumer subsidies. It is strange that every time a Coalition Government left office food subsidies were abolished. They are being diluted now and this is the first step in the direction of abolition. I do not think we have felt yet the full effect of that policy review. When we read the Green Paper tomorrow probably we will have another instalment of the burden that will have to be borne by the relatively less well off sections.

One of the clear-cut assurances and promises of Fianna Fáil in the last general election campaign was that there would be no cutback in food subsidies. They were challenged on the issue but they reiterated that they would not abolish subsidies. Yet, within 12 months of their return to office we have the first example.

There has been a substantial downward trend in inflation in the past 12 months and this is to be welcomed. We are at the lowest base line, but now the Government have sanctioned the increases we are discussing and we are told that there are more to come. For example, it is said that on next Monday the price of cheese and other dairy products will increase substantially as a follow-through on the increase in the price of butter. It is also suggested that there will be a substantial increase in the price of milk. The Government have squandered millions of pounds and most likely in next year's budget there will be taxation increases. If this kind of policy is followed by the Government there will be a substantial upward trend in consumer prices in the next two or three years, more particularly with regard to food prices. Those of us who are trying to rear families on limited incomes know that food prices bite hardest in the family budget.

I deplore the decision of the Government not to provide direct consumer subsidies for these basic food commodities, as the previous Government did in the past. It is ironic that on the very day this increase is being discussed we have been assailing the Minister for Finance for squandering £10 million this year on one item, the abolition of the wealth tax. At the same time, the Government cannot provide a quarter of that money for low income families and for the elderly who must buy a few pounds of butter each week because it is the only food they can afford. In the case of the pensioner who limits himself or herself to two pounds of butter per week, the cost will be £1.24 as from this weekend. This is happening in the context of the squander-mania that hit the Government with regard to the abolition of the wealth tax and also even in relation to the abolition of rates for families who would be well able to pay something for community services, or even people like myself who have benefited to the extent of £90 or £100 because of the abolition of road tax. Millions of pounds have been frittered away by the Government in the past 12 months and I think they could have well afforded the cost of providing subsidies for basic commodities.

I noticed a headline in today's Irish Independent by John Foley and Aengus Fanning—I am not saying they are responsible for the heading— which read: “O'Malley blames Brussels for the increase”. I have more respect for the Minister for Industry, Commerce and Energy but I think we should clear up the situation. The report stated that he laid the blame for the increase on the EEC Agricultural Ministers. Where does our Minister for Agriculture stand if that is true? Has the coalition in the Cabinet broken up? The report was written by two authoritative journalists and I presume they checked their facts. I do not think one can blame the Commission. The fact is that the increases have arisen because of changes in the green £. We have always recognised that farmers and anybody else in the agricultural community are entitled to green £ changes and the money should be brought home but it should be distributed fairly. We have always suggested that there should be a redistributive effect by ensuring that consumer subsidies take the brunt of the effect of such increases.

I noticed another report in the same newspaper of a radio interview with the chairperson of the Consumers Association, Joan Morrison. She felt that all consumer subsidies should be abolished. That was queer reasoning from a consumer organisation. I do not share that view and I do not think that most responsible consumer interests would share that view. We deplore the fact that the subsidy was not paid as it should have been.

The Minister for Finance promised at the Ard-Fheis that we would see a two-stage rocket of economic expansion. We are seeing a bit of the rocket now. The electorate got the first blast of the first stage of the rocket with the decision of the Government not to provide an additional subsidy. I should like to point out that we do not provide massive food subsidies here. The National Coalition were very careful about the introduction of such subsidies and only provided limited subsidies on a small number of products, bread, milk, butter and town gas which has also been cut back. We spent about £52 million per year on such subsidies. We should look at that figure in the context of the total budget expenditure of £2,400 million. Roughly 2 per cent of the budget expenditure goes on food subsidies which, relatively speaking, is a small amount of money being spent by the national Exchequer. It boggles my imagination that a Government with all the talents and the economic expertise they are supposed to have and the creation of additional services to assist the Cabinet could not, out of £2,400 million find a couple of million pounds to subsidise butter and bread increases of such magnitude. I feel strongly that the Government should be condemned for this major serious change of policy on their part, a change which the Irish people did not vote for 12 months ago. It is an anniversary present they could well do without but which they will have to pay for in the next three years. During that time they will realise what they voted for in the last election.

(Cavan-Monaghan): I am grateful to Deputy Desmond for allowing me some time to register my protest against the cynical treatment of consumers by the Government. The 6½p increase on a pound of butter and the 2p increase in the price of bread will be borne by those who do not enjoy tax relief on one or two motor cars, do not enjoy rates relief on expensive houses, do not enjoy any benefit in income tax and certainly do not enjoy the benefit of the abolition of the wealth tax. Their salaries and incomes are so miserably low that they will not fall into any of those categories; yet they must carry the can and bear the burden for the spree the Fianna Fáil went on before the last election. The Government have forgotten all about their promises in regard to prices. In the Fianna Fáil book of reference, the manifesto, a number of promises were made. Fianna Fáil were to have dissemination, at least once a week to the radio, television, and newspapers, of comparative prices of the most frequently purchased consumer goods in supermarkets and so on in different parts of the country. What happened to that promise? Did we get the benefit of that promise? Fianna Fáil also undertook to investigate fully any difference between the cost of an article here and the cost of the same article in Northern Ireland and see what could be done about it. Has that been forgotten about? I have not heard anything about it since. If the Government carried out this examination what was the result?

I should like to refer the Minister of State to the performance of a senior colleague in Government, the Minister for Agriculture, on 8 June 1977 when he took part in a radio debate with the former Minister for Agriculture. He waxed eloquent on subsidies and said that the subsidies being paid were not sufficient. He said the £63 million being paid in subsidies was a mere bagatelle and he solemnly undertook to increase subsidies. He included dairy products. For fear that the Minister of State cannot check that I should like to refer her to the issue of the Evening Herald of 8 June 1977. In that newspaper she can see the assertion by the Minister for Agriculture that the food subsidies paid by the last Government were totally inadequate. He undertook to see to it that Fianna Fáil in office would increase them. The Government have had an opportunity to carry out that undertaking. There is no point in the Minister charged with responsibility for prices brushing the increase aside and saying that the Minister for Agriculture is to blame or that the Council of Ministers for Agriculture in Europe must take the blame. In my view all members of the Government are bound by the assurance given by Deputy Gibbons on radio last year, and confirmed in print later, that he would increase food subsidies.

This is a cynical going back on solemn promises made, a cynical going back on a promise to increase subsidies and in that way to peg back prices. We may be told that food subsidies are expensive but when we can afford such things as the abolition of wealth tax, the derating of houses regardless of the valuation, the abolition of tax on motor cars and give concessions to income tax payers the Government should be able to look after our poor people whose basic food is bread and butter.

: I should like to thank Deputy Desmond for his comments. It is indicative of the attitude that the main Opposition have to the whole question of consumer affairs and, in particular, to price increases that we read a lengthy statement in this morning's newspapers from their spokesman, Deputy O'Toole but he found it, for some reason, inconvenient to be here this evening. This is the proper forum for him to register his protest, if he wishes to do so, against the sanctioning by the Minister for Industry, Commerce and Energy of the increase in the price of bread and butter. It is indicative that he finds it more important to rush home on a Thursday evening than to stay here to register his protest in the proper manner. If he was genuinely interested in consumer affairs and in the affairs of the consumers of Ireland he would be here to register a protest with Deputy Desmond.

In the course of a debate in the House on the question of price increases on 28 February last Deputy O'Toole listed substantial increases which had occurred since July 1977 in the price of various foodstuffs and household goods. When he was pressed by the Minister to name the shops and the price increases, Deputy O'Toole named Spar shops in two towns in his constituency, one in Charlestown and one in Ballina. As a result of Deputy O'Toole's allegations, the Minister undertook to have prices inspectors from his Department visit the two shops concerned. The results of the investigations of the prices inspectors are worthy of note and should be mentioned. It transpired that one of the shops which was alleged to have increased prices in Ballina had closed in October 1977. How in the name of goodness could overcharging take place in a shop which had closed six months previous to the date on which Deputy O'Toole made the allegations.

In the Spar outlet in Charlestown the prices inspectors discovered that overcharging was not taking place. It would appear that Deputy O'Toole feels that he has the right that none of us on this side of the House can afford to have to take prices from the top of his head and decide to make allegations against genuine traders throughout the country, particularly in his own constituency. None of us has this right and it is only fair that I should put the matter straight this evening, and Deputy O'Toole should be here to do the same.

It is pertinent to make some reference to the consumer price index in this dicussion. The price increases on butter and bread will increase the consumer price index by 0.279 per cent. There is no doubt that Opposition Deputies would wish the consumer price index to be given a low profile at this time. When the Government took office in July 1977 the rate of inflation was running at just under 14 per cent. The latest figures published today show that within one year the Government have succeeded in reducing the inflation rate by more than half. The target which we set in our election manifesto for 1978 was 7 per cent. My colleagues and I have had to listen to many people who scoffed at our promise to achieve this figure. We have not only achieved our target but have exceeded it. Today's publicity, untimely from Deputy Desmond's point of view, shows that the consumer price index has been brought down to 6.2 per cent. To view this figure in its proper perspective I would point out that it is the lowest rate of inflation recorded in Ireland since 1970, exceeding the Government's target of 7 per cent. It is worth noting that the rate of price increase of 6.2 per cent is lower than the latest figures, April 1978, for the UK and the USA of 7.9 per cent and 6.5 per cent respectively.

A major factor which contributed to the significant reduction in the rate of inflation as evidenced by the consumer price index has been the stringent application of price control by the Minister. As the House is aware, the Government are committed to ensuring that price increases which occur should be kept at a level which takes account of unavoidable cost increases by manufacturers in order to avoid jeopardising their viability while, at the same time, having due regard to the position of the consumer.

In the case of the price of bread, the increases allowed were less than half of those which were sought by the industry. The increased prices were allowed to meet the cost of labour resulting from the national wage agreement and other unavoidable expenses. I assume that Deputy Desmond does not consider that workers in the bakery industry should be denied the benefits of the national wage agreement. Deputy Desmond represents the workers of Ireland and there is nothing wrong in that as all of us represent the workers, but the members of the Labour Party would like to think that they particularly represent them. Is Deputy Desmond suggesting that the workers in the bakeries should not get the benefits of the national wage agreement?

The price of butter must be considered in the context of EEC decisions affecting primary and secondary agricultural produce throughout the Community. The EEC decide annually on a price for butter which would provide an economic return to butter producers. This intervention price is the price on which the retail price is based. The increase permitted in the price of butter results from the increase in the intervention price as a consequence of the devaluation of the Irish green £ and the general increase in farm prices for 1978 and 1979, as agreed by the EEC Council of Agricultural Ministers under the terms of the EEC common agricultural policy.

When talking about the price of butter it is interesting to note that the Coalition Government took over in March 1973 and were in office until June 1977. In June 1973 the price of parchment-wrapped butter was 29p per lb. In June 1977, while the Coalition were still in Government, it was 53½p per lb. The increase in that period was 24½p and the percentage increase was 84, or an annual increase of 21 per cent. In June 1977 the price of butter was 53½p per lb. and now in June 1978, it is 61½p per lb., an increase of 8p per lb.

It is not only in this House that irresponsible statements have been made in regard to price increases. In this evening's Herald a large headline appears which reads: “Lynch Walks Out in Dáil Uproar over Food Prices”. This headline indicates to the public, who may not be familiar with what happens in this House, that the Taoiseach walked out angrily because Opposition Deputies tried to raise the question of price increases. I would hasten to assure people that the Taoiseach organises the Order of Business for the day and then leaves to attend to his many duties. This type of journalism should be treated with the contempt it deserves. A serious-minded journalist will not try to tell untruths to the public and those of us who can should correct this type of journalism.

It is important to realise that the Government have taken many serious measures.

(Cavan-Monaghan): I do not want to interrupt the Minister but——

: When Deputy Fitzpatrick spoke I listened patiently and graciously and I expect the same courtesy from Deputy Fitzpatrick. The medicine may be hard for the Deputy to take but I suggest that he sits and takes it. I conclude by reminding the House that the information published today by the Government Information Service shows that Fianna Fáil have succeeded in reducing the rate of inflation to 6.2 per cent. Deputy Fitzpatrick raised questions in regard to the dissemination of information and price differentials between the North and South. If he had been in the House on Tuesday, 28 February and Wednesday, 1 March last he would be aware that those matters were dealt with in depth by both the Minister for Industry, Commerce and Energy and myself. I do not intend to go into the details of that debate at this time.

The Dáil adjourned at 5.30 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 20 June 1978.

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