There are two issues to be addressed in relation to Mr. Kelly — his role in the O'Callaghan property deal and his trip from New York to Florida with Mr. O'Leary. I will deal first with the Horgan's Quay negotiations, in which Mr. Kelly said he did not participate. The CIE records, authenticated by three sources, flatly contradict him and I will give Deputies the information as authenticated by CIE to me.
According to CIE's former acting chief executive, Noel Kennedy, in a memorandum to my Department dated 11 November 1994: "CIE met in September, 1994, with O'Callaghan Properties in conjunction with Ambrose Kelly and agreed a deal for the site". This is the same Mr. Kennedy who spoke on radio and television yesterday. This memorandum was written by Mr. Kennedy who has already resurfaced in this story on television news in support of Mr. Kelly. However, he was quite firm in his memorandum about Mr. Kelly and that meeting. That is my first source of information.
My second source is CIE's auditors Craig Gardner who conducted an independent inquiry into the Horgan's Quay site. In their report they say that on 15 September 1994 CIE's property manager met Eoin O'Callaghan and Ambrose Kelly and reached preliminary agreement on the disposal of the Horgan's Quay site. That report is quite specific and unequivocal about the facts.
My third source is the CIE group property manager who is adamant that Ambrose Kelly accompanied Eoin O'Callaghan to the meeting on 15 September 1994 and his official notes of that meeting confirm his attendance. I am not prepared to accept for one minute the arguments of Mr. Kelly that he did not attend the meetings, arguments which I suggest are based on hearsay.
Against the background of three independent witness sources of confirmation of Mr. Kelly's attendance at the meeting, I say to Deputies — prove to me he did not attend the meeting which negotiated what I have already called a sweetheart deal.