I welcome the opportunity to discuss the situation in Kosovo and also the question of Ireland's membership of Partnership for Peace. I fully support the Government's application to become a member of this movement and it is long overdue. I am a strong supporter of the concept that Ireland should be a full member of NATO. It is part of western civilisation and is morally obliged to play its part in defending that civilisation. I have seen an abdication of responsibilities in this regard by politicians and pressure groups. I come from a military background and, while I do not know the views of other members of my family, my father and two brothers were senior members of both the Army and the Naval Service. I do not have any apologies to make.
I regard it as cowardly to take everything that is going from western civilisation, benefit from its protection and prosperity and give back nothing. Of course, it eventually beggars a question: why is an army needed in Ireland if the country is not prepared to contribute to the protection of civilisation? Should the Army be converted into a civilian aid to the Garda? It would be more upfront, honest, practical and desirable and would rid our streets of hooliganism, vandalism and anti-social behaviour.
It is difficult to understand people who condemn NATO's actions because the alternative is just so horrible – ethnic cleansing, genocide, extermination, rape, murder and pillaging. This has not just taken place since the bombing started eight weeks ago. It has been going on systematically since 1989 when the Yugoslav Federation broke up and it has accelerated since, particularly in the months prior to the NATO actions. Even Members of this House condone that type of activity rather than support NATO. NATO is carrying out an honourable function to stop people in their tracks.
It is pity that an organisation comparable to NATO was not around in Ireland 300 years ago when people such as Cromwell came here and exterminated large sections of the population. We never had the benefit of such protection, but now that Ireland is independent, prosperous and has facilities, including an army it should be willing to take part and play a role in protecting that civilisation.
I tabled a parliamentary question last week asking the Minister for Foreign Affairs whether Ireland had applied for membership of NATO or if we had any intention of joining it. The Minister said Ireland had not applied and then referred to 1949. He stated:
The Deputy will be aware that in January 1949 the US Government formally sought the views of the then Government of Ireland concerning the issue of an official invitation to Ireland to participate in the proposed North Atlantic Treaty, which came into effect later that year. The Government at the time indi cated that it did not wish to join NATO on the grounds of the partition of Ireland.
That was a reasonable and common sense attitude to adopt then but this is 50 years later. It has been accepted that partition is a fact of life and no military action will be taken to get rid of it as was the insinuation in 1949, when circumstances were totally different.
Decent people have been let down and anybody who feels that the NATO action in Kosovo is incorrect, improper or immoral should visit towns such as Baltinglass, County Wicklow. A gentleman who witnessed the arrival of refugees from Kosovo in Baltinglass last weekend told me it was the most harrowing experience of his life and that included the funerals of members of his family. The refugees were poor, innocent people displaced from their normal places of habitation. They were lost and separated from their extended families; were heartbroken and he did not know how we could stand idly by and allow that to happen.
Ireland should make a contribution. I objected on the Order of Business earlier to the removal of Parliamentary Question No. 8 in my name tabled yesterday to the Minister for Defence which dealt with sending a detachment of Irish troops to Albania, Montenegro and Macedonia to help in the humanitarian effort by providing logistical support, such as tents, latrines, water purification plants and personnel to organise such activities. Non-governmental organisations do incredible work and the State should be involved.
I must criticise some wealthy countries with many facilities which could do a great deal of good, but stand idly by. A league table should be drawn up to see who is performing a humanitarian service for the displaced people of Kosovo. The Germans, Turks, British, Irish and Norwegians are doing a great job but what about Muslim countries in the Middle East which are blood brothers of Kosovo? What is Libya doing? It was willing to give arms to the IRA to kill innocent people throughout Ireland, particularly in the North. How many refugees has Saudi Arabia, one of the richest countries in the world, taken in? I would say none.
There is a major question over the uniformity of the effort to help these defenceless people. Well meaning and fair-minded Irish people would be well advised to ask who is pulling his or her weight and, then, pinpoint those who could but are not. We would be better employed doing that rather than condemning NATO for risking its soldiers' lives. I agree with the Government that no referendum is needed on the question of Ireland's membership of PfP. The 166 Members of this House are elected to decide such issues. Let us not be led by the nose by opinion polls. The majority of people feel that joining the PfP is reasonable and if we are going to be led by pollsters and newspapers, then we might as well not have a House of Parliament and hold a referendum on every damn issue. I support the Government. I certainly do not think much of China and Russia objecting to what NATO is doing. There is a major conflict there between the haves and the have nots. The remnants of a disgraced communist system are trying to bring down people who are trying to do their best to help the tail of that system. Milosevic and his kind are the sting in the tail of a discredited communist system. There is no credit due to the Russians or the Chinese. Instead of being supportive, they are trying to trip up the Americans, the British and everybody else who means well. Just because we have a prosperous civilisation which has proved to be successful, they are trying to grasp this opportunity to denigrate people who are doing a fine job.
I wish the Minister of State, Deputy O'Donnell, the best of luck next week when she visits Macedonia. I hope she comes back unharmed. What would we do without her?