Yes. You are limiting the local effort. Just as a sample of one of the things I have in mind, the Minister indicates that one-third of the total expenditure only will go on university scholarships and says he will give the local authorities only up to fivepence in the £ as against their expenditure. There are two ways in which South Tipperary will be adversely affected under that proposal. South Tipperary is one of the most progressive local authorities in the matter of giving scholarships generally. In 1960-61 South Tipperary are spending £6,600 on university scholarships and £2,500 on scholarships to secondary and vocational schools. When this Bill comes into operation I understand South Tipperary will have to remodel the situation. We can take the £9,100 they are now providing between university, secondary and vocational scholarships and the £1,530 provided by the State in the first year — £10,630 — and they will be constrained to spend only one-third of that on university education — substantially less than at the moment and perhaps even only 50 per cent.
For the year 1960-61, South Tipperary are providing £9,100 for scholarships. According to the Minister's step-up period they would get from the State in the first year £1,530 from one penny in the £ on the rates. In the second year they would get £3,060.
In the third year, on the basis of their expenditure, they would get £5,355. In the fourth year, confined to a rate of 5d. in the £, they would get only £7,650 from the State when they are to-day spending £9,100. From the point of view of assistance, it is completely distorted from the beginning of the period to the end of the fourth year. Assuming Tipperary stayed at their present rate, they would get only £16,750 in four years' time and they would not be allowed to spend in that year as much as they are spending on university education. They would have to cut it down. I do not think we should pass from the Money Resolution to the details of the Bill without asking if the Minister really contemplates that.
Again, when he speaks of creating better conditions for one locality relative to another, that cannot adequately be done by a centralised area. I indicated before that there are about four county council areas where in the matter of expenditure on education under the vocational scheme they had to be assisted to a more than normal extent by additional supplementary State grants. Leitrim to-day spends £880 on university education and £1,060 on post-primary education, a total of £1,940. They raise £609 by a penny on the rates and, in the third year, with increasing expenditure on their own part, they can hope to get £2,131, which they would not get unless they increased the amount of money they are spending. They, too, would be constrained in relation to their university education and they might not be able to give any additional assistance to university education at all. The Leitrim people are pinned to the measure of their own resources by this Bill. That fact is recognised when it comes to dealing with vocational education, but it is not recognised when it comes to dealing with scholarships. I think those are vital defects of the financial scheme and that is why I raise them on the Money Resolution.