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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 18 Dec 1975

Vol. 286 No. 12

Vote 38: Agriculture.

I move:

That a supplementary sum not exceeding £4,609,000 be granted to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of December, 1975, for the salaries and expenses of the Office of the Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries, including certain services administered by that Office, and for payment of certain subsidies and sundry grants-in-aid.

The main Estimate for Agriculture for 1975, amounting to £76,927,000, was passed on 19th June last. A Supplementary Estimate providing £9 million for consumer subsidies on butter and liquid milk was passed on 18th July last. This brought the total provisions for such subsidies in the Agriculture Vote to nearly £10 million taking account of the provision of almost £1 million already included in the main Estimate for consumer subsidy on butter.

This further Supplementary Estimate when added to the previous Supplementary Estimate and the original Estimate for 1975 brings the total net expenditure from the Agriculture Vote to £90,536,000. The £4.6 million now sought takes into account miscellaneous savings amounting to £11.3 million to which I shall be referring in the course of my statement.

The first item I shall deal with is the extra provision required in connection with the capital grant schemes operated by my Department. The total capital grant payments under subheads D.2, D.3 and M.1 with the adjustments now being made will exceed £10 million in 1975 as compared with £6.1 million provided for the nine months of 1974.

Grants continue to be payable in respect of works carried out under the former land project and farm buildings, water supplies and horticultural schemes. As recently announced, the date by which works must be completed under these schemes in order to qualify for grant payment has been fixed at 30th September, 1976. These schemes will thus, effectively, cease to operate as from that date.

Already, and increasingly so from now on, capital grants to farmers will come under the farm modernisation scheme. In the present year payments under that scheme are expected to reach about £3.35 million. Considering the slow start to that scheme, this represents a satisfactory achievement. The saving on the original provision for the scheme is offset by the extra expenditure under the farm buildings and water supplies schemes.

The number of applications to participate in the farm modernisation scheme has shown an encouraging upward trend recently. This reflects the growing confidence of farmers in the future of the industry and their willingness to undertake the investment necessary to expand production and improve efficiency. It also, I believe, shows a growing recognition among farmers that the financial incentives available under the scheme are very favourable and that the scheme itself is valuable particularly in the emphasis it places on planned development.

Although the scheme of grants for slurry disposal ended on 1st February, 1974, a large number of claims remained to be processed at that date and a sum of £15,000 was provided in the main Estimate to meet claims coming for payment. The additional £30,000 now sought will suffice to clear the back-log of outstanding claims.

On the horticultural side the Supplementary Estimate provides sums of £120,000 for the subsidy on heating oil for horticulture and £50,000 for additional aids to horticulture, including assistance to producer groups. The extension of the heating oil subsidy was announced by the Minister for Finance in his budget speech on 15th January and the additional amount provided is to meet expenditure for the period January to June, 1975. The £50,000 for the horticultural aids scheme is to meet outstanding claims under this scheme which has now been superseded by the farm modernisation scheme. Because of an estimated saving of £150,000 on grants for glass-house nurseries and mushroom units, the net additional amount required for horticulture is £20,000.

Turning to cattle, the expenditure provided for the EEC slaughter premiums scheme represents our national contribution to the scheme. Part of the supplementary provision arises from the carry over of expenditure incurred in 1974. At the time the Estimate was framed the scheme was due to end by March, 1975, but was renewed for the period up to the end of February, 1976. In all about 600,000 animals will have qualified for premiums in 1975. No national contribution has been payable under the scheme since mid-March, 1975.

The special premium on exports of beef to the UK relates to an arrangement with the United Kingdom whereby beef from animals qualifying for the slaughter premium here which is exported to that country qualifies for the variable premium there. Full recoupment is made by the United Kingdom Government and is provided for under Appropriations-in-Aid.

It is necessary to provide £45,000 in addition to the sum of £400,000 already voted to meet the cost of premiums payable under the EEC dairy herds conversion scheme in 1975. Fifty per cent of the expenditure under this scheme in any year is recoverable from the EEC in the following year. We had expected to spend £400,000 in 1974 and recover £200,000 this year. In fact, we spent only £300,000 in 1974 and recovered £150,000 this year leaving a shortfall of £50,000 in receipts.

The total sum voted for the bovine tuberculosis and brucellosis eradication schemes including the voluntary pre-intensive brucellosis scheme in 1975 was £14.3 million. Receipts from sales of reactors were estimated at £3.2 million, giving an expected net expenditure of £11.1 million.

Gross expenditure for the year which is comprised mainly of compensation to farmers for reactors removed and fees paid to veterinary surgeons for testing and sampling will be approximately £15.3 million or an increase of about £1 million on the original provision. This increase will be more than offset by higher receipts from sales of reactors to meat factories, which will be about £4.76 million. The net position, therefore, is that there will be a saving of about £0.56 million on the amounts originally provided for these schemes for 1975.

The £2.2 million being provided for cattle feed vouchers represents the advance to the meat industry announced by the Minister for Finance in the January budget to supplement the fund set up by that industry to issue vouchers to small farmers for the purchase of feed for young cattle at a reduced price last winter. The advance is being recovered from the industry by withdrawing temporarily a VAT credit payable to meat factories and other registered cattle purchasers.

An additional sum of £4 million is being sought for the less favoured areas scheme bringing the total to £10 million. With the switch by farmers to that scheme, a saving of £4.8 million is envisaged under the beef cattle and sheep headage payments schemes. A sum of £100,000 arises in respect of payments under the export guarantee scheme on exports of mutton and lamb to Britain. Under the terms of the Anglo-Irish Free Trade Area Agreement this amount will be refunded by the UK Government in 1976.

The provision for 1975 for lime transport and fertiliser subsidy is £6,340,000 and it is expected that there will be a saving of about £1.9 million on this provision. This is mainly due to farmer resistance to the purchase of fertilisers at present high prices. In 1973-74 farmers spent £54 million on fertilisers and in 1974-75 they spent £67 million. In 1974-75 usage had been on a level with that of the previous year farmers would have had to spend £95 million. This illustrates the impact of price increases since 1973.

I would again appeal to farmers at least to maintain the fertility status of their soils as there is no prospect in the foreseeable future of any reduction in fertiliser prices. To cut down on fertiliser imputs now could be false economy leading to a substantial reduction in yields. The restoration of the fertility status at a later date would be very costly indeed.

I expect a saving of £230,000 on the subsidised loan scheme for the retention of young cattle. This scheme was introduced on 8th November, 1974 to help smaller farmers to purchase winter feed and retain young cattle which would otherwise have to be sold at depressed prices. A subsidy of 8 per cent per annum was payable on each loan up to 31st October, 1975. Participation in the scheme was very much below expectations.

During the year our scheme to provide a socio-economic advisory service for those engaged in agriculture under Directive 161 was agreed with the EEC Commission. My Department have initiated courses of training in this type of advisory work open to interested members of the agricultural advisory services. Project work to establish more precisely the requirements of socio-economic advisory work under our conditions is being undertaken. As the development of the scheme is still at an early stage a saving of £22,000 is anticipated on the Vote provision.

The scheme under Directive 161 of vocational training for those engaged in farming was launched this autumn and is being operated through the committees of agriculture. Thirty-five courses are being run by committees at local centres during the present winter and as the scheme develops a wider range of courses at basic and more advanced levels will become available. To complement the efforts of the committees, my Department recently opened a new training centre in Athenry. A ten-week course in general agriculture for young farmers sent forward by the committees is already in progress at this new centre. As the operations under this scheme are also at the initial stage, I expect a saving of £60,000 on the sum provided in the Vote.

A sum of £300,000 in addition to the sum of £2,400,000 already provided in the main Estimate is required to meet the cost to county committees of agriculture of implementing the provisions of the national wage agreement and of paying a salary award to advisers employed by the committees emanating from conciliation and arbitration proceedings.

The extra provision of £240,000 in respect of the non-capital grant to An Foras Talúntais is to meet the cost of salary and wage increases for the staff of the institute which became effective under the national wage agreement during the year. This extra provision brings the total non-capital grant to the institute for 1975 to £4.74 million, a substantial contribution to agricultural research and development.

Incidental expenses of market intervention are expected to cost a net £3 million more than originally provided; of the extra gross expenditure of £15 million, £12 million is estimated to be recouped from the EEC this year.

Since the main Estimate was prepared, market intervention in skimmed milk powder has been introduced and the level of activity in beef intervention has proved to be higher than anticipated with the result that the provision for incidental expenses arising out of intervention is inadequate.

As Deputies will be aware, in April, 1975, I felt it necessary to introduce a quota system for factories whereby they could not sell to intervention more than 50 per cent of their weekly kill of eligible animals. I consider that this step was in the best interests of the factories themselves as a stimulus to commercial disposals and also in the best interest of the intervention system itself as a means of avoiding overtaxing the freezing and storage facilities available to us.

Intervention expenses include the cost of such items as storage, transport and handling charges as well as interest on the capital used for the purchase of the products. Such intervention activities are carried out on behalf of the EEC and payments in respect of expenses incurred are received from FEOGA in accordance with a scale of allowances based on average costs throughout the Community. The difference between expenditure and recoupment as now estimated is partly due to our relatively high interest charges.

I have now covered the main items in the Supplementary Estimate which I commend to the House for approval.

The end of a year is an appropriate time to review the agricultural position. After a year such as 1975 when we had a good harvest and livestock prices were relatively high, one would have expected we would be reporting one of the best years on record for agriculture. However, that is not so and if the Minister had listened to the advice from this side of the House we would now be reviewing with a greater degree of satisfaction the progress in agriculture because there is a lot of indecision and frustration at present. There is the high rate of cow slaughterings. There is mention even in today's Irish Times of a drop of 590,000. Coupled with that high rate of slaughterings, there is the cattle decline. Milk suppliers do not even now know where they stand regarding the skim milk powder mountain. There is mention here also of the farm modernisation scheme, the disadvantaged areas scheme, the drop in the usage of fertilisers, and the falloff in the production of potatoes and vegetables. I note that the Minister said in his brief that the grants under the old farm project, farm buildings scheme and water supplies scheme would terminate on 30th September, 1976. I would ask the Minister and his Department to notify applicants well in advance—especially those people involved in the land project and land drainage schemes which take a considerable time—to have their works completed so that they will not have to be seeking an extension of the time limit.

I welcome also the additional money allocated for slurry disposal, a matter we had pressed for in this House on a number of occasions. It is essential that the terms in respect of the farm modernisation scheme be renegotiated. I have up-to-date figures in respect of of my own county, which are favourable compared with other counties in the west. In a county where there are approximately 7,000 holdings, 5,500 farmers, applications have been received from 1,500 farmers. They have been processed and there is a total of 99 farmers classed as development farmers in County Monaghan. This is a ridiculous situation. It amounts to something in the region of 10 per cent as against 1 per cent or 2 per cent in the west with, in parts of the east coast, the percentage being as high as 50 per cent at present. The Department of Agriculture and Fisheries will have to have it revised so that any farmer who works to a plan will qualify for the maximum grant. I heard of one hardship case last week, of one very progressive farmer who, because he was over 55 years of age, did not qualify for the maximum grant and about which he felt very aggrieved. We in Fianna Fáil have been stressing that there is an urgent need for this. It never was more urgent when one observes the performance of the farm modernisation scheme since its inception and the necessity that farmers be helped in every way possible with the increased costs of machinery and building materials for development. Farmers with a potential for development will have to be classified, even if there has to be a special classification for those men working to a plan who have no hope, with present income limits, of qualifying under the scheme.

The Minister mentioned briefly the amount of money involved in the cattle feed vouchers scheme, a scheme which is causing grave concern at present. It was introduced last October in an agreement between the Minister and the Irish Fresh Meat Exporters' Association. Vouchers were checked and distributed by the land project officers. The Minister for Finance, when introducing the budget in January last year, congratulated the Irish Fresh Meat Exporters' Association on the scheme. He said at that time that it was hoped to recover a subvention of £2.2 million by the temporary withdrawal of VAT. I shall not detain the House by reading the replies to various parliamentary questions put down to the Minister in October last by a number of Deputies from different constituencies. The Minister mentioned then that the question would probably finish up as a court case. I wrote again last week to the Irish Fresh Meat Exporters' Association, because there are a large number of small millers involved. They would not be classified as millers; they are men who have equipment for binding and rolling, who buy perhaps ten or 20 tons of barley and who, in their spare time, grind, roll and sell it. They supplied feed last year on foot of those vouchers. They are men working in a business in which the remuneration is very small. Some of them find they are now owed amounts as high as £1,000 on foot of those vouchers.

Following those parliamentary questions to which I referred, I wrote to the Irish Fresh Meat Exporters' Association on 11th December and the reply I received was to the effect that they must agree with the Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries, when he said in the Dáil on 4th November last, that it looked as if this matter must be finally resolved in the court. They reiterated that they were not responsible. The Minister in the Dáil, they said, on 4th November reiterated that he was not responsible and, therefore, they said, no doubt the matter would have to be resolved in court. That is a very sad situation vis-à-vis the Department of Agriculture and the responsible body. The Minister might say he has no legal obligation but I say that if he has not a legal obligation he has a moral obligation to ensure that those small merchants are paid for the goods and services they provided 12 months ago. Many of them are working on very hefty overdrafts. We know there was arson, that the excuse earlier in the year was that it had to be investigated, that it was a matter for the Garda. The Minister should now get together with the Irish Fresh Meat Exporters' Association so that money will be provided either by them or his Department, to pay those small merchants.

I mentioned previously cow slaughterings and the newspaper report in that regard today. We have also indecision regarding the future of milk production because of this mountain of skim milk powder. The Press states also that it will be used as a protein meal in compounds, that there are reservations in different quarters that it will not be suitable because it will be a very expensive protein compared with the soya bean, that the skim milk powder contains, on average, a protein content of 33 per cent. We ask the Minister to make a statement on the future of milk production now that this skim milk problem has occurred. We ask also that the benefits of intervention be passed back to the calf and store producers. I should like to mention also the counties designated by the decision of the Council of Ministers of the EEC, when small areas only were classified as disadvantaged under the headage payments scheme. If the Minister could extend this scheme to embrace more marginal counties that would be a great incentive to cattle producers. In my county we have only seven electoral divisions. The Minister said we were a milk producing county but we have only 9 per cent development farmers and that indicates there is need for aid.

There is a drop in fertiliser usage to the tune of 40 per cent. Some aid is required here. Nitrogen was applied this year without any phosphate and potash. This is a short-term economy because the land will suffer eventually and so will the economy. A great deal of the blame for the increased price of fertilisers must be placed on the Department of Industry and Commerce. In 1973 we begged the Minister not to withdraw the controls but he did not listen to us and, since the controls were withdrawn, prices have spiralled and usage has fallen.

A potato marketing board were set up primarily for the exportation of seed and ware potatoes. They had no function where the home market was concerned. In reply to a parliamentary question addressed to the Taoiseach last February we were told that £30 million worth of fruit and vegetables were imported. We should be able to grow our own fruit and vegetables. These are labour intensive crops and many of the unemployed could find employment if this were done. The less potatoes we export from now on the better it will be because we will ensure seed is available for planting. I would appeal to the Minister to look into this matter very quickly and set up a board for the home market.

I understand that under the EEC regulations there is permission to pay an additional 10 per cent towards drainage in classified designated areas. This would be very worthwhile.

We are paying the highest figure in Europe for drainage.

We probably have more need because we are in more need of drainage. I have not travelled extensively but I know we lag far behind other countries where land settlement and reclamation are concerned.

I am pleased with this Supplementary Estimate and I support the comments made particularly with regard to intervention. The Minister was criticised very unfairly about this. I think we should put more effort into selling. This is a lesson we have not really learned from the EEC. We are still confusing intervention with the market place. Intervention was never meant to be anything else except an aid and it should not be looked on as anything else. Perhaps it could be pushed a little further. The Minister should insist on our getting out and selling because this is an area in which we will have to develop, and very quickly. We produce top quality but we do not seem to be able to sell it. There is too much diversification. There should be centralised marketing and none of the existing duplication that there is. If what I suggest were done there could be a greater concentration on commodities in short supply. That would be the logical procedure but it is a procedure we do not seem to have cottoned on to.

There is a serious falling off in the use of fertilisers. In this regard I would like to see more soil testing carried out because I gathered some rather useful statistics in my own case where I had over-applied potash in particular. There is such a thing as wasteful application. There is very little the Minister can do about the high price. If we want the stuff we must pay for it. We could have more soil testing done with advantage. These fertilisers last a long time in the ground. There is room for economy. We can ill-afford wastage.

I am delighted the subsidy is continuing. It may look small compared with the £100 a ton on compound but it is a very valuable subsidy and I am sure the amount left over from last year will be more than absorbed because I am convinced confidence in farming is back. One has only to look at the way conacre prices are going to realise there is confidence. There is good reason to be confident. We may have temporary problems like the skim milk mountain and that might not exist if we did more at the cheese end. I am not unduly scared.

I should like to see more emphasis on tillage and being self-supporting. One item not receiving enough attention is the whole area of malt barley and malt barley prices. This is a very important industry. The Department have evolved new varieties which are very successful from the malster's point of view but not from the producer's point of view. Now that the price is linked with that of feeding barley the growing of this barley may not be so attractive. I should like to see an effort made to compel those who use this gilt-edged product, this very sophisticated commodity, to pay the proper price for it. A great deal of effort goes into it and I see no reason why these people should not be made pay.

I am glad the courses for young farmers are continuing. These should be developed and made full-time courses in our vocational schools. There is every reason, especially in the light of the present employment situation, for people to take up work on farms. Farmers are prepared to pay them well but they need good men who are capable of using the very expensive and sophisticated equipment that is used on farms nowadays and who are able, too, to care for valuable dairy herds. I am not keen on the idea of night classes or the ten-week course in this type of work. We need people who have completed a full-time three- or four-year course and have obtained their diplomas or whatever qualification is appropriate.

As a producer I am often shocked to notice how mutilated produce can be by the time it goes on sale in the shops. This results from bad handling. Such gimmicks as the packaging of potatoes in plastic bags only adds to the cost. Every effort should be made to have fresh produce available in all cities and towns. This should not prove very difficult since all our urban areas are not far removed from the land. Townspeople should be encouraged to buy potatoes, for instance, in hundredweights rather than in small packages. This would help to reduce the cost. In this regard the North Dublin Co-op are doing a very good job. Where possible people should buy fresh food rather than food that is processed.

On the question of processed food, this is an area of marketing that could be developed further from the export point of view. Europe provides us with a great market but we do not seem to be breaking in on it to any great extent and to make matters worse there is much gimmickry advertising to encourage people to buy foreign produce. Too often, too, one sees Danish Blue cheese displayed much more prominently in shops and supermarkets than is the Irish product although everyone knows that the Irish Blue is far superior to the Danish product.

The Government should encourage the processing of home produce for export. To this extent more money should be made available to the processing plants to enable them to shorten the time of processing.

I compliment the Minister on his performance in the Department. He is doing a good job for us not only at home but in Europe. Last year the farmers had some problems regarding cattle prices and so on but faith in this industry has been restored. Prices are at an all time high and the dairy herds are increasing. There is no reason for pessimism. One last word —I appeal to farmers generally to use fertilisers wisely. There is no reason why 1976 should not be even a better year for agriculture than this year has been.

At the outset I wish to protest strongly regarding the allocation of time for this very important Supplementary Estimate. Since I came here this is the first time that there has been any opportunity for debate on it: on the other occasions it was merely passed. In the hour available today it is impossible to go into any detail in relation to the industry. Therefore, in the few minutes at my disposal, I shall make a few points that I consider need to be raised, but first let me say that I endorse what has been said so far by the other speakers in relation to drainage, disadvantaged areas and so on.

One of the points I would raise concerns the use of fertilisers. Because of the huge increase—I think the Minister mentioned a figure of 100 per cent—in the cost of fertilisers, farmers could not afford to fertilisers their land this year. The Minister referred, too, to the question of slurry disposal. I consider it to be of the utmost importance that slurry disposal equipment be subsidised. This is a valuable form of fertiliser but it must be removed on a couple of occasions during the year. Very few people have the very expensive machinery necessary for its disposal. In The Irish Times this morning there is a heading which reads: “Clinton forecasts secure future for Irish farmers”. On the same page Dr. Conway of the Agricultural Institute is reported as saying that in order for a farm to be viable at present it would need to be of 100 acres but that within a couple of years this figure would have increased.

I should like to know what type of farmers are secure. I come from an area where there are very few farmers who have 40 cows producing milk but now we get a recommendation from Europe—I am glad that the Minister is fighting this—to farmers to get out of milk during the next five years. So far as I can see there is no future for the smaller farmer in the context of Europe. However, we must be determined not to let this happen. I am disgusted each time I read of the inefficiency of some of those in Brussels. Not so long ago we were bribed to get out of milk production. Now there is this recommendation despite the fact that we walked the roads of Galway and other parts of the west asking people to go into milk production. It is a recommendation from people who know nothing about the life of the small farmers but we will not take this dictation.

Hear, hear.

I would advise the small farmer not to get out of milk because it is his only hope of survival. Previously when there was overproduction it was cut at the top but now it is being cut at the bottom of the scale. We are not going to take this lying down. The only hope for the small farmer who wishes to qualify under Directive 159 is to stay in milk. Now we are told we are being paid to get out of milk.

When we raised the question of fertilisers we were told they could not be subsidised under EEC rules. My organisation have asked for a cheap loan. We want a loan of up to £2,000, to be repaid over five years. This would help the small farmer. The loan should carry a small interest rate because it is vital that we encourage farmers to use fertilisers on their land. Surely this cannot be shot down on the grounds that it will interfere with the famous EEC regulations?

I agree that people had a fair degree of confidence up to some time ago but what will happen now to those who have tried to build up their milk herds? The Minister is well aware of of what happened to poultry. A few factory farms are operating in that area now. A few years ago we pleaded that people who had sows should be subsidised, at a time when pregnant sows were being slaughtered in the factories. Is it the policy now to drive the milk industry into a few factory farms? What is left for the small farmer? For those who will not qualify under Directive 159 we should have a national scheme subsidised by the people at home; this should be payable to anyone who works according to a farm plan so that he will get the same grant as the people qualifying under the farm modernisation scheme.

I have mentioned on many occasions that we should have a balancing fund so that the situation that arose in 1974 with regard to cattle and the previous situation with regard to pigs will not recur. If the fund that I suggested is not adopted by Brussels it should be done at national level.

A previous speaker referred to tillage and the raised the question why people get out of it. I was engaged in tillage all my life and I was laughed at because it was not paying. It would have made all the difference if I had had got some incentive to stay in tillage. I discussed this matter with the Minister and I thought they were doing something about it but apparently nothing has been done. There should be a survey of consumption as well as production. Two years ago I was speaking to a man who thought he knew everything about milk powder and he said there could never be a surplus but we are all aware of what happened in the meantime. A person is entitled to ask if there is any forecasting being carried out in the Community.

I wish to protest very strongly at the fact that this important Estimate is being discussed in such a short time. Anyone who knows anything about the basics of agriculture could spend at least one hour discussing the Estimate. That would be good for the country and the inefficient set-up in Brussels.

I join with the previous speaker in condemning the short duration allowed for this important debate. Having to confine oneself to a few minutes on this debate makes the task impossible because one does not know what point to pick out and discuss. However, perhaps at a later date we will have a full debate on agriculture.

One of the most alarming matters at the moment is the decrease in the national herd. When Fianna Fáil left office the herd stood at seven million but now I understand it is reduced to about five million. This is a dangerous trend.

That is two million wrong. It is still seven million.

It cannot be seven million when one considers all the cows that have been slaughtered in the last few weeks and the Minister admitted this fact recently in Brussels. I hope the Minister will ensure that this is corrected in the near future because it is of great importance to us. The soil is our greatest wealth and it is imperative that we exploit it fully. In order to create employment in agriculture, so far as possible cattle should not be exported live. They should be processed at home and this would create employment. A recent "7 Days" programme illustrated this fact and people who knew what they were talking about agreed that it was important to create as much employment as possible.

I should like to join with the previous speaker in encouraging tillage. One of the more disappointing facets of our agricultural programme in the last few years has been the decline in the acreage devoted to cereals. We have had to import about 500,000 tons of cereals annually and this highlights the need to increase our grain production. The fall in wheat acreage has been particularly dramatic. After the bad harvest year in 1974 we had to import milling wheat to the value of £14 million. With better management and fertiliser usage this import bill could be eliminated while still maintaining, or even increasing, our livestock numbers. Every assistance, both financial and technical, must be given to farmers to encourage them to achieve this.

At present the high cost of machinery, fertilisers and chemicals, coupled with the restrictions on merchant credit, have made cereals less attractive to all but the larger farmer. Before our entry into the EEC and during our first year of membership most farmers were led to believe that there was no future in grain growing even though we can produce better crops than most other Europeans. Hearing this advice many farmers switched from grain to livestock breeding only to find cattle prices falling and grain prices rising. We should have learned from this experience that we must keep a balance in our enterprises and encourage grain growing to guard against another period of tight supplies and rising prices.

Special consideration must be given to enable farmers to store grain for their animal feed requirements. It does not make economic sense for farmers to sell their barley at harvest time only to have to buy it some months later at a greatly increased price. New storage methods now allow grain to be held at relatively low cost and special grants should be given to encourage farmers to avail of these methods. This would be a worthwhile exercise.

One of the schemes that has caused considerable controversy since it was introduced here is the farm modernisation scheme. In administering Directive 159 the EEC have lost sight of the primary object of the CAP which is to increase the incomes of farmers while ensuring reasonable consumer prices. A pre-occupation with structural reforms, based on the Mansholt Plan, has diverted aid and attention from the producer who wants to modernise and it has stifled confidence and investment.

While Fianna Fáil recognise and support the economic contribution of large scale farm enterprises we are pledged to maintain the maximum possible number of family farms. The farm modernisation programme should be more positively directed towards the development of family farms. With personal responsibility family farms are more likely to adopt economic change and new production methods. The present criteria for allocating modernisation aids are unduly restricted and inflexible. As it exists the farm modernisation scheme will not ensure the viability of a high proportion of our family farms. The qualifying incomes should be based on regional statistics and should take into consideration the headage payments and other aids for disadvantaged areas. I believe this would increase the number and type of eligible farms in the developing category. I hope that in the disadvantaged areas scheme the Minister will take note of the cries from the farmers along the western seaboard to have this area included in the scheme next year.

The Chair must interrupt the Deputy at this stage because the time for discussion of the Estimate has now concluded and the Chair will have to put the Vote.

I would like to ask the Minister, when he is revising this scheme next year, to include the 12 western counties.

Vote put and agreed to.
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