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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 28 Jan 1976

Vol. 287 No. 4

Financial Resolutions. - Financial Resolution No. 5: Excise—Hydrocarbons.

I move:

(1) That in this Resolution "the Order of 1975" means the Imposition of Duties (No. 221) (Excise Duties) Order, 1975 (S.I. No. 307 of 1975).

(2) That the duty of excise on mineral hydrocarbon light oil imposed by paragraph 11 (1) of the Order of 1975 shall be charged, levied and paid, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, at the rate of £0.4341 per gallon in lieu of the rate set out in the said paragraph 11 (1).

(3) (a) That notwithstanding clause (b) or (c) of paragraph 11 (5) of the Order of 1975, the duty of excise imposed by the said paragraph 11 shall be charged, levied and paid at the rate of £0.02 per gallon, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, on mineral hydrocarbon light oil to which the said clause (b) or (c) applies.

(b) That notwithstanding subparagraph (6) of paragraph 12 of the Order of 1975, the duty of excise imposed by the said paragraph 12 shall be charged, levied and paid at the rate of £0.02 per gallon, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, on hydrocarbon oil to which the said subparagraph (6) applies.

(4) That paragraph 11 (7) of the Order of 1975 be amended, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, by the substitution for "without payment of duty" of "on payment of a duty of excise at the rate of £0.02 per gallon".

(5) That any authorisation issued before the 29th day of January, 1976, under the provisions of paragraph 11 (7) of the Order of 1975, in relation to the importation or the delivery from the premises of a refiner of hydrocarbon oil or from a bonded warehouse free of duty imposed by paragraph 11 (1) of the Order of 1975 of articles chargeable with that duty, shall, so far as it affects articles imported or delivered on or after that date, be deemed to authorise the importation or delivery of such articles on payment of a duty of excise at the rate of £0.02 per gallon.

(6) That the repayments of excise duty provided for in paragraphs 11 (10) and 12 (10) of the Order of 1975 shall, where the duty is chargeable and paid after the 28th day of January, 1976, be at the rate of duty paid less an amount of £0.02 per gallon.

(7) That paragraphs 11 (4) and 12 (2) of the Order of 1975 be amended, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, by the substitution in each case for "imposed by this paragraph which is shown, to the satisfaction of the Revenue Commissioners, to have been paid" of "shown, to the satisfaction of the Revenue Commissioners, to have been paid by reason of the operation of this paragraph".

(8) That paragraph 12 (1) of the Order of 1975 be amended, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, by the substitution for the proviso thereto of the following proviso:

"Provided, however, that the said excise duty shall be charged, levied and paid at the rate of £0.02 per gallon in lieu of the aforementioned rate on mineral hydrocarbon heavy oil within the meaning of section 7 (6) of the Finance Act, 1933 (No. 15 of 1933) so sent out or imported on or after the 29th day of January, 1976".

(9) That the amount of any rebate allowed under paragraph 12 (3) of the Order of 1975 shall, in respect of any hydrocarbon oil imported or delivered on or after the 29th day of January, 1976, be the amount of excise duty chargeable less an amount calculated at the rate of £0.02 per gallon.

(10) That in addition to any other duty which may be chargeable, there shall be charged, levied and paid, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, a duty of excise at the rate of £0.02 per gallon on gaseous hydrocarbons in liquid form made in the State which are sent out, on or for sale or otherwise, from the premises of the manufacturer thereof or are used by such manufacturer and on gaseous hydrocarbons in liquid form imported into the State.

(11) That a drawback equal to the amount of the duty imposed by paragraph (10) of this resolution which is shown, to the satisfaction of the Revenue Commissioners, to have been paid in respect of the goods in question, shall be allowed on the exportation from the State or the shipment or deposit in a bonded warehouse for use as ships' stores of any goods chargeable with the said duty.

(12) That whenever the Minister for Finance so thinks proper, the Revenue Commissioners may, subject to compliance with such conditions as they may think fit to impose, authorise any person to import or take delivery from the premises of a manufacturer of gaseous hydrocarbons in liquid form or from a bonded warehouse of any goods liable to the duty of excise imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution without payment of that duty.

(13) That subject to compliance with such conditions as the Revenue Commissioners may think fit to impose, any goods liable to the duty of excise imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution may be removed for exportation, or for shipment for use as ships' stores, from the premises of the manufacturer thereof without payment of the said duty.

(14) That the Revenue Commissioners may, if they so think fit, allow any goods which are liable to the duty of excise imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution to be warehoused without payment of the said duty, and may, if and so far as they so think proper, remit duty on any deficiency arising in goods so warehoused where they are satisfied that no part of such deficiency was caused by illegal or improper means.

(15) That where, in the period from the 29th day of January, 1976, to the 29th day of February, 1976, by reason of the operation of the provisions of paragraphs 11 and 12 of the Order of 1975 or of paragraph (10) of this Resolution, an excise duty at the rate of £0.02 per gallon is payable on the importation or delivery of goods, the Revenue Commissioners may, subject to such conditions for securing the payment of the duty as they may think fit to impose, permit payment of the said duty to be deferred to a date not later than the 29th day of February, 1976.

(16) That paragraph 17 of the Order of 1975 shall, with any necessary modifications, apply as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, in relation to the duty of excise imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution as it applies to the duties imposed by that Order.

(17) That section 15 of the Value-Added Tax Act, 1972 (No. 22 of 1972), be construed, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, as if the references to excise duty (inserted by the Order of 1975) included a reference to the excise duty imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution.

(18) (a) That subject to subparagraph (b) of this paragraph, the provisions of the Customs Acts and of any instrument relating to duties of customs made under statute, and not otherwise applied by this Resolution, shall, with any necessary modifications, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, apply in relation to the duty of excise imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution on goods imported into the State as they apply in relation to duties of customs.

(b) That where, in relation to the duty of excise imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution, there is a provision in this Resolution corresponding to a provision of the Customs Acts or of any instrument relating to duties of customs made under statute, the latter provision shall not apply in relation to that duty of excise.

(19) (a) That subject to subparagraph (b) of this paragraph, the provisions of the Statutes which relate to the duties of excise and the management thereof and of any instrument relating to the duties of excise made under statute, and not otherwise applied by this Resolution, shall, with any necessary modifications, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, apply in relation to the duty of excise imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution on goods produced or manufactured in the State as they apply to duties of excise.

(b) That where, in relation to the duty of excise imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution, there is a provision in this Resolution corresponding to a provision of the Statutes which relate to the duties of excise or of any instrument relating to the duties of excise made under statute, the latter provision shall not apply in relation to that duty of excise.

(20) That this Resolution, so far as it relates to the duty of excise on imported goods imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution, shall be construed together with the Customs Acts and any instrument relating to the customs made under statute and, so far as it relates to the said duty of excise on goods made in the State, shall be construed together with the Statutes which relate to the duties of excise and the management of those duties and any instrument relating to the duties of excise and the management of those duties made under statute.

(21) That the provisions of Regulations 3 to 19 and 21 to 39 of the Hydrocarbon Oil Regulations, 1941 (S.R. & O. No. 490 of 1941) and subsection 21 (12) of the Finance Act, 1935 (No. 28 of 1935) shall apply, as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976, in relation to the goods liable to the duty imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution as if they were hydrocarbon oil or hydrocarbon (heavy) oil, as the case may be, within the meaning, in each case, of Regulation 3 of the said Regulations.

(22) That paragraphs 11 (3), 11 (13) and 12 (9) of the Order of 1975, be revoked as on and from the 29th day of January, 1976.

(23) That the duty of excise imposed by paragraph (10) of this Resolution be placed under the care and management of the Revenue Commissioners.

(24) It is hereby declared that it is expedient in the public interest that this Resolution shall have statutory effect under the provisions of the Provisional Collection of Taxes Act, 1927 (No. 7 of 1927).

From tomorrow morning petrol will increase by 10p per gallon but from the 1st March, as I understand it because of the VAT increase from 6.75 per cent to 10 per cent petrol will increase by a further 3p. Therefore, the total increase is 13p per gallon. I would like to have this clarified.

It is estimated it will be 12½p.

The increase is 10p from tomorrow and 3.25 per cent from 1st March. On a quick calculation that would be 2.7p or 2.8p on the new price from tomorrow.

The figures I have are that pre-budget it was a total of 75.7p, post-budget it is 85.7p and the increase in VAT on 1st March brings it up to 88.3p.

That is 13p to the nearest penny. Does the Taoiseach realise that the people who will be hit by this are the working people throughout most parts of Ireland who are obliged to use their cars to go to and from work as public transport is not available to them. Those are not the weekend car users. They are working people and an increase of 13p per gallon with a possibility of the retailers looking for a further increase means that we are at the 90p per gallon and must be the dearest in Europe with the exception of France.

There are two separate increases here. There is an increase of 2p in the hydrocarbon oil. Does this apply to all oils used in industry, all oils used in heating factory floors? Does the Taoiseach not agree that this is a very severe imposition on industry that is so badly hit already? Does he not further agree that the imposition of the petrol increase will not only hit the workers very severely but will also affect distribution costs on essential commodities like milk, bread and other such commodities?

Would the Taoiseach not further agree that because of this crushing taxation which has now been imposed on petrol in particular it will create a very severe hardship on the motor industry? Does he not realise the problems it can create for companies like Fords of Cork or is he and the Minister for Finance determined to kill the motor industry in the country and to ground down the motorists? This seems to be the pattern since November, 1973. Did the Taoiseach or the Minister for Finance not consider these very important things before bringing in this desperate imposition?

While I agree with everything that has been said in relation to the entire spectrum I would like to ask the Taoiseach a question. Is he aware that there are a large number of small commercial travellers who have been hit by VAT since the change in Government? I refer to working people, not those driving company cars, who have built up a small income to rear their families. They will be very severely hit by the imposition of this Financial Resolution and also by Financial Resolution No. 7? Those resolutions will put many of them with their backs to the wall.

Hundreds of those people, who have built up small businesses of their own, will now be unable to keep them going. They will have to surrender their businesses to the large combines who can afford, because of their international status, to pay this large increase. In their case the cost will be passed on to the distributor, something the small man cannot do. Will the Taoiseach consider, maybe on the Committee Stage of the Finance Bill, giving some exemption to people engaged in this small way to which I have referred? I must refer to this because, as a member of the Irish Commercial Travellers' Federation, I am aware of the problems of those people and their plight.

There are two separate points. In relation to the point raised by Deputy Fitzgerald dutiable diesel is unaffected by this.

I am sure the Taoiseach is aware that there are two different types of diesel. Is all diesel excluded?

Yes. In relation to Deputy Lemass's point, a person so affected is entitled to offset expenses of that sort against his income tax assessment.

With regard to the increase in petrol to 90p does the Taoiseach or the Minister for Finance realise that this is imposing a further £1.00 per week taxation on workers who are obliged to use their cars? It is the equivalent in most cases of another £1 direct taxation on the people who are still working.

This will affect builders' labourers who are lucky enough to have jobs and have to travel to work. They are not allowed offset this increase against any travelling costs in their income tax while commercial travellers can. Does the Taoiseach feel this is right and proper? Will he give us a breakdown on the gallon of petrol as it will be next March when the 13p extra is added? How much will go to the Exchequer, as profit to the retailers and to the other elements which go to make up the price of a gallon of petrol? We blamed the oil producing countries for most of our ills when they increased the price of petrol. When they look around and see the profit we make out of their work by the taxation we charge, does the Taoiseach not think that he will outdo the harm done to our economy by the oil producing companies with this budget?

The duty pre-budget was 34.05p, the trade 36.86p and VAT 4.79, making a total of 75.7p. Post-budget duty will be 43.41p, trade 36.86p and VAT 5.42p, making a total of 85.7p. As I mentioned, after March VAT will increase to 8.00p bringing it to 88.3p.

On a point of clarification, the Taoiseach said the type of person to whom I am referring can claim compensation in his income tax.

That is a matter for the Finance Bill.

Should this man not be liable to VAT? If he is liable to VAT——

The Deputy may ask a question on the Resolution only.

The Deputy asked if the petrol increase will affect commercial travellers. Anyone involved in such a business is entitled to set off expenses against tax.

The builder's labourer is not and he is typical of many workers throughout the country who have to travel more than ten miles a day to and from work. Is the Minister aware that for such a man driving a ten horse power car and locking it up at the weekend—in other words he never uses it for any other purpose than going to and from work —the effect of this provision, plus the increase in the motor tax announced today will mean an increase of £2 a week for him?

(Interruptions.)

The Deputy must keep to the Resolution.

Surely the Minister considered this? We are talking in terms of curbing inflation.

We are discussing Resolution No. 5.

This increase alone will mean an increase of £48 for this man when he uses his car for 20 miles.

These details must be discussed on the Finance Bill.

The Government must have worked this out because they are concerned in this budget about inflation and they show very little consideration for this.

Most of the people the Deputy refers to have already benefited by the last wage round in the current national pay agreement. In dealing with inflation we have to balance the position of those who are employed and those who are not employed.

I am concerned about these people who have to drive to work. What the Government are doing is driving the people out of work.

There are more than £300 million for the construction industry in this budget. That is not driving people out of work.

If the Taoiseach would like to talk about the construction industry, I would love to talk about it too.

We are discussing the resolution.

I will not do so because I know I would be ruled out of order. I asked the Taoiseach a number of questions and he answered one on diesel oil. If diesel oil is not covered, would he indicate oils for what purposes are covered in the 2p per gallon increase? I also asked him if he realised the serious effect the increase in petrol will have on the motor industry.

I cannot allow that, because there will be a general debate later.

This is very relevant, but if the Chair rules me out of order I will accept it. Has the Taoiseach taken into consideration the effects of this increase on milk, bread and essential foodstuffs which are mainly delivered by petrol-driven vehicles? If diesel is not covered, what oils are covered by the 2p per gallon?

All oil other than dutiable petrol and diesel.

(Interruptions.)

Does that mean all diesel oil, other than road diesel as we know it? This will substantially affect industry, including the construction industry.

The Deputy may discuss this on the general debate.

Are aviation fuels included?

Are heating oils for glasshouse industries included?

Will they go up by an extra 2p?

And fuel for the fishing fleet?

It depends if they are diesel or non-diesel.

If the fishing fleet used diesel oil?

An increase of 2p.

The Taoiseach is hitting the fishing fleet and the horticultural industry. They are not getting any grants, subsidies or assistance of any kind.

A Cheann Comhairle, may I ask Deputy Lalor if he thinks it is necessary to move to sit late?

I checked with our spokesman on this and he said he did not think it necessary to sit late. If the Taoiseach moves a cautionary motion of this nature there is a temptation to sit late. With cooperation it should not be necessary.

The Deputies will appreciate that in this instance they may merely elicit information and there will be an opportunity to debate the general resolutions of the budget proper.

Is agricultural diesel included?

Yes, up 2p.

By how much will fuel oil for industry increase? By how much will the ESB fuel oil be affected?

Seperate figures are not available for the ESB. The estimate of fuel costs in output of transportable goods industries is possibly 2 per cent on average.

Including the ESB?

It depends on how much of it is involved in the total ESB generation. Some is attributable to oil, some to coal, and some to turf.

Can the Taoiseach say which of the two things underlies this heavy imposition on petrol and fuel added to other increases? Is it that the Government are trying to reduce the consumption of fuel, or merely want to increase their outturn in revenue? I am asking that seriously and not in any facetious way.

A combination of both. Mainly to get revenue.

In their various calculations, but specifically in regard to petrol and the increased taxation on vehicles, did the Government take fully into account that the great number of cars used for essential purposes are not under eight horse power. They are the larger consumers of petrol and they will be taxed more heavily as a result of their greater horse power or c.c. capacity. They may not have taken that into account and they may be working on the basis that the heavier car is entitled to pay more in all respects. The 10, 12, 14 and 15 horse power range is more likely to be the car used by those who must have a car for their business.

The Deputy is going into some detail which should be left for the main debate.

I am looking for information. If I were trying to do otherwise, a Cheann Comhairle, you would have heard from me sooner.

I think that aspect is relevant to the road tax.

The 14 or 16 horse power car is liable to be using twice as much fuel as an eight horse power. I am asking the Taoiseach whether the Government gave due consideration to what I believe to be the likelihood that cars which are essential for business are more likely to be of a capacity greater than eight horse power, using more petrol and, therefore, carrying a greater impact. Cars under eight horse power are more likely to be cars that could be done without or second cars in a household.

The pattern has always been to increase them at a pro rata rate based on horse power or c.c. capacity.

What will this increase mean in relation to central heating oil and will naphtha for the Dublin Gas Company be affected?

It is 2p all round.

I take it that the cost of gas, ESB prices and CIE prices will be going up? The price of horticultural products and fish will also be going up.

Questions at this stage.

Does the Taoiseach agree that, as a result of the increases in the price of fuel, the price of agricultural goods will also go up so there will be an across the board increase in prices?

The Deputy will appreciate that 2p a gallon is not a considerable increase.

It is not inconsiderable either.

The Deputy will also appreciate that the Minister has given an increase in the income tax personal allowance.

Question put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 68; Níl, 65.

  • Barry, Richard.
  • Begley, Michael.
  • Belton, Luke.
  • Belton, Paddy.
  • Bermingham, Joseph.
  • Bruton, John.
  • Burke, Dick.
  • Burke, Joan T.
  • Cosgrave, Liam.
  • Costello, Declan.
  • Coughlan, Stephen.
  • Creed, Donal.
  • Crotty, Kieran.
  • Cruise-O'Brien, Conor.
  • Desmond, Barry.
  • Desmond, Eileen.
  • Dockrell, Maurice.
  • Donegan, Patrick S.
  • Donnellan, John.
  • Enright, Thomas.
  • Esmonde, John G.
  • Finn, Martin.
  • FitzGerald, Garret.
  • Fitzpatrick, Tom. (Cavan).
  • Flanagan, Oliver J.
  • Gilhawley, Eugene.
  • Governey, Desmond.
  • Griffin, Brendan.
  • Harte, Patrick D.
  • Hegarty, Patrick.
  • Hogan O'Higgins, Brigid.
  • Jones, Denis F.
  • Kavanagh, Liam.
  • Keating, Justin.
  • Burke, Liam.
  • Byrne, Hugh.
  • Clinton, Mark A.
  • Cluskey, Frank.
  • Conlan, John F.
  • Coogan, Fintan.
  • Cooney, Patrick M.
  • Corish, Brendan.
  • Kelly, John.
  • Kenny, Enda.
  • Kyne, Thomas A.
  • L'Estrange, Gerald.
  • Lynch, Gerard.
  • McDonald, Charles B.
  • McLaughlin, Joseph.
  • McMahon, Larry.
  • Malone, Patrick.
  • Murphy, Michael P.
  • O'Brien, Fergus.
  • O'Connell, John.
  • O'Donnell, Tom.
  • O'Leary, Michael.
  • O'Sullivan, John L.
  • Pattison, Seamus.
  • Reynolds, Patrick J.
  • Ryan, John J.
  • Spring, Dan.
  • Staunton, Myles.
  • Taylor, Frank.
  • Thornley, David.
  • Timmins, Godfrey.
  • Toal, Brendan.
  • Tully, James.
  • White, James.

Níl

  • Allen, Lorcan.
  • Andrews, David.
  • Barrett, Sylvester.
  • Blaney, Neil T.
  • Brady, Philip A.
  • Brennan, Joseph.
  • Breslin, Cormac.
  • Briscoe, Ben.
  • Brosnan, Seán.
  • Brugha, Ruairí.
  • Burke, Raphael P.
  • Callanan, John.
  • Calleary, Seán.
  • Carter, Frank.
  • Colley, George.
  • Collins, Gerard.
  • Connolly, Gerard.
  • Crinion, Brendan.
  • Cronin, Jerry.
  • Cunningham, Liam.
  • Daly, Brendan.
  • Davern, Noel.
  • de Valera, Vivion.
  • Dowling, Joe.
  • Fahey, Jackie.
  • Farrell, Joseph.
  • Fitzgerald, Gene.
  • Fitzpatrick, Tom.(Dublin Central).
  • Flanagan, Seán.
  • French, Seán.
  • Gallagher, Denis.
  • Geoghegan-Quinn, Máire.
  • Gibbons, Hugh.
  • Gibbons, James.
  • Gogan, Richard P.
  • Haughey, Charles.
  • Healy, Augustine A.
  • Herbert, Michael.
  • Hussey, Thomas.
  • Kenneally, William.
  • Kitt, Michael P.
  • Lalor, Patrick J.
  • Lemass, Noel T.
  • Leonard, James.
  • Loughnane, William.
  • Lynch, Celia.
  • Lynch, Jack.
  • McEllistrim, Thomas.
  • MacSharry, Ray.
  • Meaney, Tom.
  • Molloy, Robert.
  • Moore, Seán.
  • Murphy, Ciarán.
  • Nolan, Thomas.
  • Noonan, Michael.
  • O'Connor, Timothy.
  • O'Kennedy, Michael.
  • O'Leary, John.
  • Power, Patrick.
  • Smith, Patrick.
  • Timmons, Eugene.
  • Tunney, Jim.
  • Walsh, Seán.
  • Wilson, John P.
  • Wyse, Pearse.
Tellers: Tá, Deputies Kelly and B. Desmond; Níl, Deputies Lalor and Healy.
Question declared carried.
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