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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 1 Apr 1976

Vol. 289 No. 6

Vote 9: Public Works and Buildings (Resumed).

Debate resumed on the following motion:
That a sum not exceeding £26,088,000 be granted to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of December, 1976, for the salaries and expenses of the Office of Public Works; for expenditure in respect of public buildings; for the maintenance of certain parks and public works; for the execution and maintenance of drainage and other engineering works; for expenditure arising from damage to the property of External Governments; and for payment of a grant-in-aid.
—(Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries.)

The Parliamentary Secretary said today:

A total of £112,500 has been provided for inland waterways. This figure includes a sum of £2,000 for the continuation of the survey of the Ballinamore-Ballyconnell Canal ...

It is a pity the amount provided is so small because this canal has great potential for development. At one time it was hoped that inland waterways would link the whole country. First, there was the Shannon linking up with Lough Erne; there was the Ballinamore linking with the Grand Canal to Dublin. It was hoped to link the Ulster Canal with Lough Neagh. The Ulster Canal has gone out of use but there is still the Ballinamore Canal which would link with the Shannon to Limerick, the Grand Canal to Dublin and the Ballinamore Canal also linking up with the Lough Erne system. If money was provided for the survey of that canal it could be developed, and if it was developed to its full potential there would not be its equal in Europe. The Parliamentary Secretary should keep in mind the development of these inland waterways.

The Parliamentary Secretary also referred to Army barracks. The erection of the Army barracks at Monaghan is well advanced, and I want to know if provision for living quarters for Army personnel has been made. This is an area where great provision has been made for housing the people, but there is still a waiting list in Monaghan town. Therefore the Office of Public Works should be in contact with either the NBA or Monaghan Urban Council to ensure that when that barracks is erected, accommodation will be available for Army personnel.

Reference is also made here to embassy buildings and the money provided. When I read through this it brought to mind a parliamentary delegation to Copenhagen I took part in in 1974. It was shortly after the setting up of our embassy there following our entry into the EEC. At that time the building reflected very little credit on our country having regard to the accommodation on the second floor. Buildings for our representatives abroad should reflect favourably on the country. My experience on that occasion in Copenhagen was that that was not the case. It may have been remedied since.

I note that £61,500 is provided for national monuments. I would hope that the Parliamentary Secretary would, as far as possible, involve the local committees and community effort in the preservation of these monuments. The Parliamentary Secretary also mentioned the erection of plaques outlining the history of these monuments and places of note. It is very important that we should preserve those before they go any further into decay.

There are many failings and shortcoming in this Estimate presented by the Parliamentary Secretary but one that is of particular significance for the area I represent, North County Dublin, is the appalling disregard by the Government of the major problem of coast erosion. This year there was only £65,000 provided in the Estimate for coastal protection. Even last year there was £80,000. This compares with an estimate of £1,760,000 produced in 1975 by the Dublin County Council under the Coast Protection Acts to the Department for necessary work to be done on the County Dublin beaches for the protection of the coast. That is, for the coastline of one county alone at the 1975 price. The Government this year have provided the paltry sum of £65,000 for the whole country for this very necessary work of coast protection. The £1,750,000 for County Dublin was made up as follows: Velvet Strand, Portmarnock, £300,000; Lough Shinny, £25,000; the north shore at Skerries, £10,000; Barnageera, an area between Balbriggan and Skerries, £50,000; the area south of Balbriggan Harbour, £26,000; the borough of Portrane £160,000; the south County Dublin coastline £1,100,000 and Rodgerstown, Rush, £106,000. The county council submitted this report under section 2 of the Coast Protection Act, 1963, which said that

If the council is satisfied that land within the county is being progressively damaged by the continuing encroachment of the sea, as distinct from occasional or abnormal storms, and that the encroachment is liable to endanger the safety of a harbour, the buildings or amenities of a residential area, or other valuable property, it may declare that the promotion of a coast protection scheme is expedient and the Commissioners of Public Works should be asked to carry out a preliminary examination.

They are told to carry out a preliminary examination of this very necessary work because every scheme proposed by Dublin County Council falls under the headings mentioned in section 2 of the Act I have just quoted—encroachment is liable to endanger the safety of a harbour and falls under that heading; buildings or amenities of a residential area or other valuable property, also fall under that. The Government contributed £65,000. It would not be enough to carry out the very necessary preliminary examination of even one of these schemes. If the Government are serious about governing properly one of their main aims should be the protection of the amenities of the people in and around the capital city.

One of our greatest amenities in the summer is our beaches, Portmarnock beach and the south county and north county coastline. The Government have allowed a miserable £65,000 to cover all this necessary work throughout the country. This is an indictment of the Government and everything they stand for. I appeal to the Parliamentary Secretary to re-examine the Estimate and the allocation of funds for coastal protection.

I would like to mention the schemes suggested by the county council. It was estimated that the Velvet Strand Portmarnock, would cost approximately £300,000. What was included in that? The Velvet Strand covers an area from Farney Gutter, north of the County Club where it joins the Portmarnock-Malahide Road, along the banks towards Sutton Point and Portmarnock golf club. The lands abutting the Velvet Strand consist of a ridge of dunes. Severe damage is taking place at the Farney Gutter and for a distance of approximately 500 yards piles of eroding sands are speedily engulfing this wooded area and making their way onto the main road. The accumulation of sand in this area is blown on to the public road into gardens and drains and, from time to time, bulldozers and lorries have to be used to remove it.

The Portmarnock complex is so important to the people of the county and city of Dublin that the Dublin County Council are preparing a compulsory purchase order to acquire approximately 250 acres of this land for use for amenity purposes by the people. Portmarnock is one of the great traditional playgrounds of the people of Dublin city during the summer weekends. On any sunny Sunday during the summer you will see thousands of people along the Portmarnock beach and dunes enjoying their family picnics. Surely this amenity is worth protecting for these people?

Portmarnock is a rapidly developing area. There are approximately 25,000 people living in Portmarnock, Malahide and the surrounding areas. They are entitled to some amenities and their great natural amenity is the Velvet Strand. Despite the pleas of the county council and the people living in the area, the Government have closed their eyes to this very necessary coast protection work which would preserve this amenity. My comments on Portmarnock could apply with equal relevance to other schemes proposed by the county council. I appeal to the Parliamentary Secretary to reconsider the amounts of money provided for coast protection and see if in some way the preliminary examinations for this scheme could be got under way this year.

The debate on the extension of Skerries Harbour has gone on since this Government came into power— with no credit to the Government—and it still continues. I put down a number of questions to the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Finance about the extension to Skerries Harbour. I also asked the Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries on 3rd February, the progress made with regard to the extension of Skerries Harbour; and if he would make a statement on the matter. The Parliamentary Secretary informed me that:

A boring survey of Skerries Harbour will be necessary before any scheme for the improvement of the landing facilities there could be formulated. I have asked the Office of Public Works to have this survey undertaken as soon as possible.

In the course of the supplementaries I said:

I accept that the Parliamentary Secretary gave that answer with tongue in cheek. The boring equipment arrived at Skerries where one trial hole was made, but then the whole operation was packed up.

The history of this situation is this: before an extension could be arrived at, it was necessary to bore the foundations to see what soil they were going into. This is understandable. About 18 months ago I raised this matter with the then Parliamentary Secretary. I would like to say how very much I personally regretted the passing of the Parliamentary Secretary. When he was in office he was a courteous, kindly and charitable man and is a great loss to this House. He assured me that but for the fact that the one piece of boring equipment in the country was tied up on the west coast and there were storms at the time, they could have started the job in Skerries. I asked if there was any other boring equipment here and was told no, unfortunately, there was only one piece of equipment. The storms abated and the equipment was transferred to Skerries where it was assembled and anchored in the bay for a considerable time. They then proceeded, with great blowing of trumpets to bore one trial hole and then they disappeared never to be seen again.

When I queried this in the House the Parliamentary Secretary told me that another piece of boring equipment was being secured and eventually they would get around to digging the trial holes. So far not a sign has been seen of boring equipment or of any sign of progress with the necessary extension of Skerries Harbour. Skerries Harbour is one of the major harbours on the east coast. Because of the size of the fleet—boats of 75 and 85 feet are being purchased—many of the boats, instead of coming into the harbour, have to anchor in the bay where there is not adequate protection, and where because of the size of the harbour there are not adequate docking facilities for the unloading of catches and so on. The problem is becoming critical and that is why I urge that some action be taken by the Parliamentary Secretary in the near future to recommence the boring survey and, thereby, allow the necessary extension of the harbour.

While waiting for the major job to be carried out at Skerries Harbour, some dredging work should be put into operation in the area immediately adjacent to the harbour wall. This area is silting up badly and the bigger boats cannot come in, while those that can dock find that very quickly they have no protection because within a short time there is no water underneath.

The question of dredging brings to mind Balbriggan Harbour. Because of the inadequate space at Skerries many of the smaller boats are using Balbriggan Harbour again so that the fleet there is building up although the harbour is in a deplorable condition. It is necessary that dredging work be commenced immediately on this harbour. I asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries whether anything was being done in this regard and he told me that the position will be re-examined in the light of a report of a special survey team. This is the general survey being conducted in respect of the east coast harbours but I urge that in the meantime dredging work be commenced at Balbriggan.

Together with Rodgerstown, Balbriggan and Skerries are the main harbours in north County Dublin. Sailing and boating generally are becoming very popular in this area. There is no control in many of the estuaries and little inlets on the coastline which are not directly under the control of the Port and Docks Board or of any harbour authority with the result that a certain conflict is building up between the commercial operators, such as fisherman or, in the case of Malahide, a shipyard, and private interests, the weekend sailors. Therefore, I would like to see some authority being given to the Office of Public Works which would enable them to prepare a plan of the moorings and, consequently, ensure some control. In Malahide where there is a large estuary, the channel is very narrow so that when some of the leisure craft tie up to moorings there they are preventing the shipyard from using the channel to gain access to the sea. The operation concerned for the Board of Works would be only minor but would entail in the first instance bringing together all the local interests concerned—public, private and commercial—to discuss where the moorings should be placed and so on. This would make for a much better situation than the haphazard one which prevails at present in these small inlets around our coastline. Perhaps the Parliamentary Secretary would arrange for some officers of his Department to act as liaison officers in this matter. It is hardly a matter for legislation but merely for the application of common sense.

In relation to leisure craft and the increasing popularity of boating as a hobby there is a problem in Skerries. It was proposed to build a slipway there which would be used by the local sailing club. Originally there was provisional agreement between the Department and the county council on the question of the sharing of the expenditure that would be involved in this work but there have been no developments recently. An examination was to have been undertaken by the Office of Public Works and I wonder whether any progress has been made in this regard. The provision of a slipway at Skerries is of particular importance to the area and to the tourist industry generally because it would give Skerries the opportunity of hosting one of the world's sailing competitions. The bringing of any such competition to the area is dependent on the slipway being provided. Therefore, I urge that the investigation in this regard be speeded up so that work can be commenced as soon as possible.

Because the Office of Public Works have responsibilities for so many different areas of activity the Parliamentary Secretary's speech of necessity, was wide ranging. One of the matters referred to was the construction of Garda stations and in particular the one at Swords. Some time ago I was assured that this work was going to tender and I note that it is hoped to place a contract shortly. I ask that no shortage of finance be allowed impede in any way the construction of this station. After the setting up of the force the Swords station was the first to be occupied outside the Dublin metropolitan area so the least they are entitled to after all this time is a new station.

This brings me to the whole problem of facilities for the Garda in north County Dublin. Most of the stations were built at a time when County Dublin was a rural area and when the vast increases in population that have taken place since then along the city fringe area were not envisaged. I refer to Swords, Portmarnock, Rush, Skerries and all those other stations. I would like to see some progress made in improving the facilities for the people in north County Dublin generally.

The Parliamentary Secretary gave a list of certain works which were to be carried out in the various embassies. When I spoke on this Estimate last year I mentioned the consulate at Hamburg. The previous speaker, my colleague, Deputy Leonard, was in Copenhagen. I was on a parliamentary trip to Germany and visited the consulate in Hamburg. It also needs renovation. I do not see it on the list of jobs to be done. I would like it to be looked at again. Last year I suggested that rather than renting a number of those premises we should examine, from an economic point of view, the advisability of buying rather than renting property abroad. We have had some of our embassies for a long time. They have been on long leases and I am sure we could have an opportunity of purchasing them now. I would like the Parliamentary Secretary to look at this matter.

All Deputies are concerned with the facilities in the House generally. I mentioned one morning, on the Order of Business, the industrial dispute which prevented proper heating being provided in the House for Members, staff and visitors. While today is a mild day we had problems earlier on when the weather was cold. I hope the Parliamentary Secretary is doing something to see that this dispute is not allowed continue any longer. I am very pleased with the increased accommodation on the fourth floor where I work. Since some of the staff moved across the road to Setanta House it is much more comfortable and conducive to work.

The Parliamentary Secretary told us today, in relation to the provision of a concert hall:

Planning is well advanced on a scheme for the adaptation for concert hall purposes of portion of the UCD premises at Earlsfort Terrace. It is hoped that it will be possible to complete the planning stage by the end of this year which would allow of a start being made on the adaptations in 1977, but this will depend on how soon the UCD authorities can release the space required.

Would the Parliamentary Secretary let us know exactly what progress has been made with the UCD authorities about releasing the hall in Earlsfort Terrace for use as a concert hall? The need for a proper concert hall in the city and for the country generally must be as obvious to the Parliamentary Secretary as it is to the country at large. I hope he has been able to examine this matter and that he will be able to let us know what are the hopes of starting work next year.

As usual, the Parliamentary Secretary had something to say about the facilities in the Phoenix Park. This is one of the great loves of the ex-Parliamentary Secretary, Deputy Lemass, who was very conscious of the amenity value of the Phoenix Park to the people of Dublin. The Zoological Gardens are one of the greatest attractions in the Phoenix Park. I would like to see some extra land provided by the Board of Works for the extension of the zoological grounds. A large number of riding schools use the Phoenix Park and the stables adjacent to it. It would be a great idea if there was something in the Phoenix Park similar to that provided in Hyde Park, London, where there is a special riding track reserved for horses. It is only on that track that horses are allowed. There is a sand track right around the perimeter of this area. Something similar should be provided in the Phoenix Park. We should not have areas all over the park torn up by horses. This would be avoided if a special track was provided.

The Parliamentary Secretary referred to national monuments. In Swords, where I live, we have a magnificent old castle. A very hard-working organisation there, the Swords Progressive Preservation Society, collected a sum of money and lodged it with the Department with a view to having some preservation work carried out on this castle. It will take quite a lot of work but I have no doubt, with the goodwill that exists in the area, that a lot of voluntary work will be put into it. I would like to see some examination made of this castle so that it can be restored.

We have Martello Towers right along the coast line of County Dublin. They have been there since the Napoleonic wars. I would like to see them preserved. I am always afraid that somebody will buy one, knock it down and that some development work will take place on the site. I should like to see some importance and significance being given to them by the Office of Public Works.

In various sections of this Estimate there are references to different Government buildings with different staff accommodation, and so on. This brings me back to the question of the purchase as distinct from leasing of these buildings. After the general election when the Parliamentary Secretary's predecessor took office, in his first speech he referred to the goal of purchasing office blocks as distinct from leasing them.

Riding instructions.

This is a very wise goal at which we should aim. Buildings used by the civil service should be Government-owned rather than privately-owned and rented. We should aim at the construction of our own office blocks for the public service. I am sorry that not enough emphasis is put on this by the Government. I hope in the future this programme will be undertaken.

I am also glad to see extra effort is being put into the development of the Shannon waterway this year. This is a great national amenity. There is no such amenity in the whole of Europe. We must emphasise our role as a pollution free haven within the European Community and try to attract tourists to this potential haven of a pollution free environment. We are not fully free from pollution and that should be our aim. One of our great amenities is the River Shannon. I should like to see more work being done by the Office of Public Works to improve the facilities for boating and for leisure craft generally on the Shannon.

Having spoken about individual items I should like to refer to the role of the Office of Public Works generally at this time of national crisis, with unemployment running at roughly 120,000 and with the class of 1976 leaving secondary school in June with no jobs to go to. More so than any other Government Department, the Office of Public Works have a great potential for providing jobs. I should like to see this role expanded. Last year when I spoke on the Estimate on 30th May, I referred to this potential for job creation within the Office of Public Works. I suggested that we could set up a board called "Amenity Ireland", or something like that, which would undertake local amenity improvements. It need not necessarily clash with the county council local improvements schemes but could carry out high quality work on parks or play areas and provide permanent employment. The training facilities of AnCO could be used.

It could provide permanent employment for people who are at present receiving unemployment benefit and who are trying to get jobs. These people would have a feeling of achievement and of responsibility by having a job, and, at the same time, they would be doing something of benefit to the country generally, and to their own community. This idea has been working quite successfully in Northern Ireland. There is no reason why it could not be carried out in the Republic in a revised and improved form. In the Six Counties it is called "Enterprise Ulster". I would ask the Parliamentary Secretary to examine what is being done there, and consider whether something similar could be set up here. I referred to coast erosion, the scandal of the paltry £65,000 in the Estimate and the figure of £175,000 for County Dublin at 1976 prices. I appeal to the Parliamentary Secretary to speed up the extension of Skerries Harbour, the provision of a slipway, the dredging and improvement of the harbour wall in Balbriggan Harbour and also to proceed with all haste with the construction of the proposed Garda station in Swords.

A short time ago there was a great deal of public reference to the fact that the Government were allowing the free importation of foreign articles which we could buy at home. A number of questions were raised about the manner in which various organisations and firms were permitted to go outside the country to make purchases which could have been made at home. Arising from that my attention was drawn to the fact that the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom had been re-papered. That would be the description given it but I gather it is a far more expensive and elaborate form of decoration than could be described as "re-papering". Perhaps the way the Parliamentary Secretary described the matter is more appropriate —refurbished. The refurbishing of the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom in this House——

It is not the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom.

Is the Parliamentary Secretary positively putting that on the record?

That is not the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom.

I expected that from the Parliamentary Secretary because that was exactly the answer he gave me on another occasion in this House. I would draw the attention of the Leas-Cheann Comhairle to a document circulated by the Ceann Comhairle's Office. As Whip of the Opposition Party I would be the last man in this House to question anything that issues ex cathedra from the Ceann Comhairle's office. I have before me a document dated 21st October, 1975, which is the most recent document for use within the Oireachtas buildings of the official telephone numbers of various extensions within the House. I did not want to take up the Parliamentary Secretary on the Adjournment debate on this issue for so misleading the House on a previous occasion.

I did not mislead the House.

He stated at that stage, officially in his reply, and he restated it today, that there is no such place as the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom.

So the Restaurant Committee inform us.

I look upon the Ceann Comhairle as being more important than the Restaurant Committee. Deputy Belton is the chairman of the Restaurant Committee. I do not want to cast any aspersions on any Deputy but I have a lesser inclination to cast aspersions on the Chair.

Rightly so.

I will take the Chair's word for something before I will take the word of Deputy Belton. The Parliamentary Secretary did not tell us in his previous reply from where he had got his information. Now we learn it was from the Restaurant Committee. As far as a committee of the House dealing with its functions is concerned, I would feel that it would be the Committee on Procedure and Privileges that would be the one to which to refer such a question, rather than the Restaurant Committee that has to do with the extraction of additional moneys from us weekly because the cost of living continues to rise; fair dues to the Restaurant Committee of which my colleague, Deputy Moore, is an honoured member. I feel they are actually keeping ahead of the cost of living with their increased charges.

So say I.

I am glad the Parliamentary Secretary agrees with me to some extent. I would draw the attention of the Parliamentary Secretary to page 8 of the official document issued by the Ceann Comhairle giving the numbers of various telephone extensions within this House. In that document it is mentioned that the telephone extension for the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom is 312. There is no reference in that document to a distinguished strangers' diningroom.

The Deputy was in there a few days ago.

I took the opportunity, having been invited by the Ceann Comhairle, to go into the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom. From the time it was opened it has been recognised as the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom. There is special provision for Parliamentary Secretaries within this House. I know that if a Minister wants to bring in his wife or members of his family he has the entitlement of bringing them into what is known here as the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom. We do know that a Minister cannot take his guests into his room, as such; that is confined to members of the Cabinet. It is agreed that a distinguished visitor can be taken into the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom but it was news to me that it had been rechristened the Distinguished Strangers' diningroom and that it was distinctly the privilege of the Ceann Comhairle to invite people into it.

It is available to everybody; that is my information. Every Member of the House is entitled to go in there and every Member of the House goes in there.

Every Member of the House may go in there on invitation.

No, any time during lunchtime.

I presume this is not the proper place to go into this but I could well imagine that if every Deputy of this House insisted upon dining in the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom it would create some confusion. I would suggest to the Parliamentary Secretary that, in his effort to defend himself at this stage, against the misstatement he made——

I am not defending myself; I am stating what happened.

The Parliamentary Secretary should be careful. He is not a member of the Committee on Procedure and Privileges and he is at present encroaching on that domain. I went through that document to see if I could find a heading "Distinguished Guests' diningroom". But that is not what I really want to talk about. At a time when we have a committee created by the Minister for Industry and Commerce to encourage everybody within the country to buy Irish—spending sizeable amounts on advertising, linked up with industrialists under the guaranteed Irish campaign—for the Parliamentary Secretary to have allowed himself to turn his back on such firms as Kildare Wallpapers and others to go for some type of ornate wall decoration is not good enough. As the Parliamentary Secretary said, I have been in that room once at the invitation of the Ceann Comhairle, approximately a week ago, to meet a distinguished Scottish Nationalist Member of Parliament for Britain. I took time during my visit to look at the wallpaper. I am not saying that the wallpaper there previously was any great shakes. But I am saying I would be very surprised if Kildare Wallpapers could not have presented a more pleasant sight. The whole effect is dreary and drab. In its own way it is necessary that that room and the ministerial diningroom be brighter. Perhaps it is the psychology of the thing—if one has Ministers and Parliamentary Secretaries, men responsible for the administration of the country at present, living 50 per cent of their time in such drab surroundings——

I am quite happy.

But the difficulty is that the people of this State have become desperately unhappy arising from the maladministration——

The Deputy saw good wallpaper in Lifford last night.

I am trying to make an honest-to-God contribution on the Board of Works Estimate and the Parliamentary Secretary comes up with red herrings. I am sorry if I am getting under the Parliamentary Secretary's skin. When I was Minister for Industry and Commerce I was never ashamed to draw attention to the fact that every man and woman in this country should do his or her bit in protecting and advancing Irish industry. On one occasion I tried in vain to buy an Irish-made shirt in 14 drapery shops in Grafton Street. However, I had the satisfaction of finding out one month later that seven of those 14 shops stocked Irish-made shirts. I am not a new convert to the belief that everyone, particularly the public representatives, and even more particularly Departments of State, should set an example in this area. This is why I found fault with the Office of Public Works and the Parliamentary Secretary for having the foreign-made wallpaper in the Parliamentary Secretaries' dining-room——

Will the Deputy tell the House what it replaced? It was a British manufactured vinyl and it was put up by his Administration.

I accept that. The Parliamentary Secretary has put it on the record already. The reply given by the Parliamentary Secretary was quite audacious. He said he had been in touch with Kildare Wallpapers. When I was Minister for Industry and Commerce I was in contact with that firm; I know the battle they had for survival and the tremendous effort they put into building up the industry. The Parliamentary Secretary stated in this House that Kildare Wallpapers confirmed they could not supply paper similar to what is in the diningroom. The impression he created was that this firm had been asked to supply paper for the diningroom but had said they could not supply a suitable type. On that one visit I made to the Parliamentary Secretaries' diningroom —I am still sticking with the only official document that says that; if the Parliamentary Secretary wants to get it changed let him do so——

We beg to differ here.

His explanation was that it was necessary to get wallpaper of this particular kind in order to display properly the paintings from the National Gallery. I am not the "arty" type and presumably what I say now will prove that. When they were getting rid of the paper I wish they had got rid of the paintings also. Apparently the imported paper was to show off the paintings to greater advantage and I admit that the paintings needed that help. Personally, I do not think the wallpaper is beautiful. Perhaps the Parliamentary Secretary, in consultation with Mr. White, might consider brightening up the wallpaper with some other paintings. Having spent so much money on the foreign wallpaper I am not suggesting that it be torn down but I suggest that it be covered up to the greatest extent possible.

It is rather like the lick of paint that Senator Brian Lenihan wanted for the ESB building. Having put up the monstrosity in the first place he then wanted to paint it.

I am glad to see the Parliamentary Secretary here. We have been trying all day to get someone to speak from the Government side. I thought they had all gone home. There was a great fuss some time ago about the importation of foreign-made furniture and it developed into a nine days' wonder. It is all over now and people can import what they like. We are in the EEC but there are still certain preventive measures that can be taken. I hope that we still have some sense of nationalism. I would not try to suggest that it is confined to one side of the House; both Houses should have the same view on this. We should all be mindful of the need to buy Irish. Nowadays we have gone one step further because we talk about buying goods that state they are guaranteed Irish. Perhaps the Parliamentary Secretary would have qualified for a prize of £200 per week if he had bought the paper from Kildare Wallpapers. I do not think there are any restrictions.

It was not bought during my term of office.

Now the Parliamentary Secretary has me in the situation where he is accusing me of having a go at someone for whom all of us had a great deal of respect. I think it would have been as well if the Parliamentary Secretary had not said that. He should have accepted the responsibility because he made a statement on the matter.

The Deputy mentioned that I might have qualified for a prize. I had to put the record straight.

It was reported to me recently that the Department of Finance have a new building at South Great George's Street where Pims stores were formerly located. I do not know if it is rented accommodation. Because people know of my dedication—I use that word deliberately——

Some people would call it hypocrisy.

My record will stand up to any investigation and I challenge the Parliamentary Secretary to investigate it. A constituent of mine asked me to check on the matter of imported radiators in that Government building. It is possible that the building is rented.

The radiators were there when we moved in.

I hope whoever was responsible for renting the building reminded the owners that the radiators should have been bought here. The Minister for Industry and Commerce should take an interest here. It now appears that, on the instructions of the Parliamentary Secretary, in association with the chairman of the Joint Restaurant Committee, a new house telephone guide for the House will be issued because the one in existance is misleading.

On this Estimate it would be improper for any rural Deputy not to refer to arterial drainage. It has been a great bone of contention in all constituencies and any rural Deputy who does not talk about drainage is not worth his salt. The farmers in my constituency are seriously affected by the lack of such work on the Nore and the Barrow but the schemes for these rivers are well down on the priority list. I should like to tell the Parliamentary Secretary that over the last few years Laois County Council have provided a limited amount of money from rates to clean out fallen trees and other obstructions in the Nore. Deputies have spoken to the Parliamentary Secretary's predecessors, in Fine Gael and in Fianna Fáil, about this problem and one thing we hoped for as a result of our entry into the EEC was an injection of money for this work.

Laois County Council spent £2,000 last year on this work and the landowners in the vicinity were full of praise for the council. It was the first time that a county council were able to add money to the rates and be praised by farmers. We all know that traditionally the left wing of a county council are expected to stack up rates so that men can be kept in employment while the conservative wing take the view that they should not add anything to the rates because they depend on the farming community for votes. However, when this additional cost was put on the rates— no grant was sought from the Office of Public Works because this work was not part of their function—there was no objection from the farming community. In my view we have reached a stop situation in regard to arterial drainage. Is it not time that the situation was reviewed? I am aware that if I have sold that idea nothing will be done for another five years while the review is taking place.

I have always been met with courtesy when I approached officials of the Office of Public Works and it is with my tongue in my cheek that I find fault with them on arterial drainage. There is a lot of talk of getting away from the use of machinery and having the work done by men. Laois County Council last year employed men to do the work. I suggest to the Parliamentary Secretary that he point out to his Minister that if he could get £1 million or £2 million which is being paid out in the form of unemployment benefit transferred to the Office of Public Works he would be able to prepare drainage schemes on which those who are being paid unemployment benefit could be employed. He could point out to his Minister that if this money was available the unemployed could be engaged in removing trees and other dirt from the rivers of the arterial drainage scheme list. I do not recommend that the problem should be handed over to the think-tank of which the Minister for Education is chairman but it is worth considering. It should be possible to find a way to channel money from the Department of Social Welfare for use in cleaning up rivers. I made my remark about buying Irish seriously and I was surprised at the Parliamentary Secretary's reaction. I put forward my last suggestion seriously and I hope the Parliamentary Secretary will consider it.

When contributting to a debate on this Estimate it is difficult not to stray because the Office of Public Works act as agents. Last year on this Estimate I spoke of the need for improvements at the entry point to this House and I am glad some improvements were carried out. However, some literature should be available for people who have to wait for a Deputy. A few magazines would help a great deal. There is plenty of literature available. I am sure it would be possible to set up a stall where we could return some of the literature we receive. As often as not one takes a cursory look at these unless there happens to be something of particular personal interest in them. As I say, there is difficulty in disposing of them. It is a pity they should go to waste. Perhaps some space could be provided where one could leave these magazines and so on.

The first impression of Leinster House is the most lasting one. It cannot be a really good impression if a visitor has to wait ten minutes or a quarter of an hour until a Minister or a Deputy is free. I believe people should be encouraged to call on their public representatives.

The brochure on Leinster House is to be commended. How are sales going? We received our complimentary copies. Perhaps the Parliamentary Secretary would give us some indication as to sales. I think, too, there could be more display cabinets around the building. Many people are still unaware that this brochure is available. This is quite an informative brochure and it makes an excellent souvenir. For a long time all we had was the J.F. Kennedy address to the combined Houses of the Oireachtas. People like to have something as a memento of their visit to Leinster House. A bigger effort could be made to publicise this brochure. From the point of view of price it is a bit dear where children are concerned and at this time of the year school children visit Leinster House in great numbers.

We do not publish that brochure.

Then I withdraw the credit I was giving the Parliamentary Secretary and put it where it ought to be. It may be a function of the Board of Works to provide display cabinets.

It is not a function of the Board of Works.

There has been some improvement of the entrance but I would still like to see some further improvement. When the House reassembles there should be a colour party or a flag raised or something like that. I am sure it would be within the compass of the Board of Works to find a choice location.

I do not want to cut the Deputy short but this would be a matter for the House itself to decide.

How would I go about it?

I suggest the Committee on Procedure and Privileges would be the place to raise it.

That committee is overworked at the moment. However what I have said will be on the official record. I welcome the extra accommodation. It makes one's work a little easier. I know the Board of Works have responsibility for the National Museum. What percentage of the total exhibits are on display at the one time? Have the Board of Works considered making exhibits available in houses and parks around the country? That would give people who do not visit Dublin an opportunity of enjoying these exhibits. There are many suitable buildings in which they could be housed.

Again, the Board of Works would have no responsibility. They would not have the making of a decision on a matter like that. The museum is under the Department of Education.

We merely carry out certain work on instructions from the Department.

The Board of Works would not initiate anything. They wait for something to fall into their laps.

Debate adjourned.
The Dáil adjourned at 5 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 6th April, 1976.
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