Local government can be looked at in a number of different ways. It is an important part of our democratic process. For that reason the whole question of its funding, powers, structures and so on are extremely important for everyone in this State. It can also be seen as a very important service industry in that, as the Minister pointed out, it employs 35,000 people directly. Clearly it is important from a number of different viewpoints.
The Minister raised a number of different issues which would require hours to deal with in any detail. It is not possible to do that now, so I propose to concentrate on two areas. They are the proposed reforms which the Minister intends to bring in in relation to the greater Dublin area and the question of local charges.
As regards air pollution, I am surprised at the Minister's proposed solution which is to encourage people to move away from using solid fuels and oil and to use natural gas. I wonder on what he bases this policy and how he proposes to encourage people to do this. There is obviously a need for a greater use of smokeless fuels but would it not be equally valid to make it possible for people to transfer to the use of electricity since the ESB is a semi-State organisation and provides a countrywide service? Why is he urging people to transfer to natural gas in the Dublin area? It is odd, to say the least. It raises the question of Government policy which seems to be to burn natural gas at all costs as quickly as possible. It is a criminal waste of a very valuable natural resource to burn it in that way.
As regards housing, the Minister was very keen to push the idea of joint venture housing. Anyone I spoke to in the building industry told me that joint venture housing is a recipe for shabby housing. Today the Minister said he would make available funding at special rates to local authorities to improve the structure of low cost housing built in the late sixties and early seventies. Surely there is a contradiction in the Government pushing for joint venture housing and at the same time admitting they have to provide extra funds now, 14 years later, for houses built under a low cost scheme which were shabby and always will be shabby and will have a short life span?
What is going on behind closed doors in the professional organisations about the Building Control Bill? I would be very interested to find that out. Why is the Minister keeping so quiet about local authority rents? Many promises were made in relation to the travelling people and the need to remedy the total squalour in which they are condemned to live. All we hear about are promises that something will happen in the future. Not one single halting site or unit of accommodation has been provided in the county area since the row which erupted last year.
As regards the fire services, emergency plans and so on, we have been warned by the chairman of the Chief Fire Officers' Association that there is a disaster imminent unless something is done about how we plan to deal with emergencies in relation to chemical transport and so on.
As regards postal voting, we have been told something will be done about this in the future. We have been promised it for so long that one begins to wonder about how serious the Government are in relation to it. The Minister did not say what he proposed to do about postal voting in the local elections. Will he, as he promised he would, ensure that the disabled will have a right to postal voting in the coming local elections?
It is clear from the national plan that the Government have a particular strategy in relation to taxation and the funding of services both at national and local level. There is a clear shift from the central funding of all kinds of services to the private sector. It is privatisation by stealth. We hear denials from the Government that there are any moves towards privatisation, but the whole strategy in the national plan is towards privatisation.
There is also a shift from direct to indirect taxation. Local charges are part of that shift. The so-called farm tax is a bit of a joke. Someone called it a land-related income tax. I do not understand how anyone can call it that. It is a recipe to get the Labour Party and Fine Gael off the hook with the farmers. It is taking 100,000 farmers out of the tax net and allowing them to pay a land tax that will not be introduced until 1986. It is all a bit of a joke. The emphasis is that it is shifting taxation from paying on the basis of income to charges on services and so on. It is a policy of this Government that for every £1 levied in local charges by local authorities and also in farm tax, they will deduct £1 at the central government end. The local authorities will not end up with any more money. It is just a shift from the money being provided through central taxation to indirect taxation at the local level.
The Minister's speech was remarkable for the fact that local charges as such were not referred to, apart from one brief mention. When the Minister was talking about efficiency he made the following comment:
I know that local authorities have been taking action to maintain services and employment at a consistent level by eliminating waste and by making reasonable use of their powers to levy and collect rates and charges efficiently.
That is the only time charges have been mentioned in the statement. Surely the Minister must know of the widespread outrage in relation to local charges and the difficulties of the local authorities in collecting them. He must also know that some local authorities are using unreasonable powers and unreasonable methods to try to collect the charges. I will mention three examples.
In Cork they are threatening to withhold third level grants from students whose parents have not paid the local charges. The Kildare County Council are threatening and are using section 18 of the Offences Against the State Act not against people who have not paid the local charges but who are protesting about the imposition of local charges. In the Ashbourne area, when a man protested against the imposition of local charges and the disconnection of a water supply his employer was visited by the Garda to find out if the employer knew what his employee was up to. All of these are unreasonable methods; in fact, I would go so far as to say they are illegal methods.
The withholding of local charges is not illegal. No law is broken by withholding them. It is a debt and it can be pursued through the courts as a debt. The only conflict there might be in court in relation to local charges is when a person refuses to comply with a court order, not because of the debt. The debtors' prison was done away with years ago. The withholding of local charges is not illegal and anyone who claims differently should examine the facts. It is a legitimate method of making known one's objection to the existence and the continuation of these charges.
I should like to ask the Labour Party, Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil if they support these unreasonable and illegal methods that local authorities are using in this connection. Will they make a categoric statement without qualification that they either support the charges or do not support them? We get all kinds of qualifications from Fianna Fáil such as, "We do not support these charges in their present form". In what form do they support them? In what form do the Labour Party support them? We know that Fine Gael support them although Fine Gael Deputies and councillors are going around saying they do not support these local charges, that they are a disgrace and so on. We should get a little honesty about this matter in this House at least.
The working class people are not objecting to paying for local services. What they are saying is that they have already paid for them through PAYE and VAT. They are paying 85 per cent of all income tax in the State and they are paying the vast bulk of all VAT collected. They have already paid for these services and it is entirely unreasonable, unfair and inequitable to demand that they pay further for them through these local charges, without in most cases any reference to whether they are able to pay. It is a question of fair taxation, that everyone pays their fair share on the basis of ability to pay. That is the only kind of taxation system that will be acceptable to the working class and that is what is involved in the local charges campaign, the implementation of a fair tax system. We will see how much of that we will get next Wednesday when the budget is announced, although I am practically certain there will be very little fairness in that regard.
With regard to the structure proposed for the greater Dublin area, I will quote from the Minister's statement. He said:
Outside Dublin, the Government have taken action to bring about more equal representation of different electoral areas within counties and county boroughs. In a number of instances county electoral areas have over twice the number of representatives in relation to population as others in the same county. It is clearly desirable that this undemocratic situation be remedied and that this should be done with the minimum disturbance of electoral boundaries.
That is good principle but what is the Minister doing in relation to the greater Dublin area? I will tell the House what he is doing. Under the old system Dublin city had a ratio of one representative to 11,500 of the population. Under the new system with 52 seats and the additional population being brought in there will be one representative for 10,500 population. In the county under the old system it was one representative for 13,000 population and under the new system it will be one representative for 5,900 of the population.