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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 17 Jun 1987

Vol. 373 No. 9

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Adjusted Acre Basis.

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asked the Minister for Finance the number of acres assessed on an adjusted acre basis in each county in Ireland; and the outcome of each assessment.

With your permission, a Cheann Comhairle, I propose to circulate in the Official Report a tabular statement showing for each local authority area the statute acreage and adjusted acreage of all holdings included in the classification lists issued by the farm tax commissioner in September 1986. No classification lists have been issued since that date. As the classification lists giving details of individual assessments were put on public display by the local authorities I do not think it necessary to give details of the outcome of each assessment.

Summary of September 1986 Classification List

Name of Local Authority Area

Gross Acreage

Adjusted Acreage

The County of Carlow

28,862

20,799

The Urban District of Carlow

81

35

The County of Cavan

5,159

2,134

The Urban District of Cavan

0

0

The County of Clare

8,313

2,856

The Urban District of Ennis

0

0

The Urban District of Kilrush

0

0

The County of Cork

82,523

54,079

The County Borough of Cork

174

59

The Urban District of Clonakilty

0

0

The Urban District of Cobh

21

14

The Urban District of Fermoy

0

0

The Urban District of Kinsale

0

0

The Urban District of Macroom

125

65

The Urban District of Mallow

65

31

The Urban District of Midleton

16

4

The Urban District of Skibbereen

5

3

The Urban District of Youghal

83

52

The County of Donegal

4,921

2,951

The Urban District of Buncrana

0

0

The Urban District of Bundoran

0

0

The Urban District of Letterkenny

0

0

The County of Dublin

29,972

21,785

The County Borough of Dublin

61

25

The Borough of Dún Laoghaire

0

0

The County of Galway

17,739

7,782

The County Borough of Galway

51

24

The Urban District of Ballinasloe

0

0

The County of Kerry

5,229

2,854

The Urban District of Killarney

85

35

The Urban District of Listowel

23

5

The Urban District of Tralee

95

31

The County of Kildare

79,929

59,177

The Urban District of Athy

48

37

The Urban District of Naas

885

646

The County of Kilkenny

48,618

34,802

The Borough of Kilkenny

2

0

The County of Laois

28,469

17,717

The County of Leitrim

499

150

The County of Limerick

27,312

17,043

The County Borough of Limerick

0

0

The County of Longford

8,228

3,911

The Urban District of Longford

0

0

The County of Louth

25,299

18,176

The Borough of Drogheda

20

17

The Urban District of Dundalk

766

453

The County of Mayo

6,004

2,815

The Urban District of Ballina

0

0

The Urban District of Castlebar

0

0

The Urban District of Westport

197

36

The County of Meath

122,537

91,470

The Urban District of Ceannanas Mór

9

8

The Urban District of Navan

6

6

The Urban District of Trim

0

0

The County of Monaghan

3,312

1,614

The Urban District of Monaghan

0

0

The Urban District of Carrickmacross

7

2

The Urban District of Castleblaney

0

0

The Urban District of Clones

5

0

The County of Offaly

27,457

16,141

The Urban District of Birr

247

54

The Urban District of Tullamore

167

107

The County of Roscommon

8,566

4,603

The County of Sligo

6,526

2,623

The Borough of Sligo

123

36

The County of Tipperary NR

21,041

11,781

The Urban District of Nenagh

96

78

The County of Tipperary SR

42,876

31,945

The Urban District of Tipperary

64

41

The Urban District of Carrick-on-Suir

28

22

The Urban District of Cashel

0

0

The Borough of Clonmel

117

56

The Urban District of Templemore

0

0

The Urban District of Thurles

27

26

The County of Waterford

42,142

23,124

The County Borough of Waterford

1,430

772

The Urban District of Dungarvan

71

40

The County of Westmeath

38,217

21,253

The Urban District of Athlone

0

0

The County of Wexford

60,362

40,031

The County Borough of Wexford

29

5

The Urban District of Enniscorthy

13

2

The Urban District of New Ross

0

0

The County of Wicklow

54,627

19,155

The Urban District of Wicklow

0

0

The Urban District of Arklow

3

0

The Urban District of Bray

118

95

Total

840,102

535,693

May I ask the Minister for Finance if, given the valuable work that has been done by the tax assessment office, he does not consider that this work should continue? When we consider that the last overall valuation was prepared in the first half of the 19th century, will the Minister, taking into account that he was a former Minister for Agriculture, not accept that this work should continue in the interests of the economy irrespective of whether one is in favour or against a land tax? Will the Minister not accept, as a matter of proper accounting and assessing the resources available to us within the State, that this work should be allowed to continue?

As the Deputy is well aware, the Government have already decided to discontinue this work and that is the position.

May I ask the Minister what has happened to date to the records and files accumulated by the land assessment office in the last number of years? If nothing has happened to them, can I ask the Minister for an assurance that those records be retained because they are very valuable?

This is essentially a statistical question in which there appears to be a tabular statement. It would be more appropriate for Deputies to await circulation of the tabular statement and they can then deal effectively with the matter. Deputy Michael Noonan.

The Minister was offering to answer my question.

The Chair is entitled to express his view in these matters and he has done so.

With respect, I have asked a very reasonable question and the Minister for Finance was about to answer the question. I will not accept that the Chair is entitled to express his views to stop me from exercising my rights in this House.

The Chair expressed the view that this is a statistical question and it is usual for Deputies to await the submission of a tabular statement so as to be in a position to ask further questions. The Deputy has asked his supplementary question.

I am reasonably aware of what is provided in a tabular statement. I can anticipate in a reasonable manner that the information I have asked will not be provided in the tabular statement. The Minister seems to be quite willing to answer me. It is very important to ascertian what will happen to these records. I believe I am entitled to ask that question.

The Deputy has put a number of supplementary questions.

This is my second supplementary question.

Has he another question to put?

I am waiting for a reply to that one.

I understand your ruling, a Cheann Comhairle, in relation to tabular statements. One question had been allowed and I am glad of the opportunity of answering the second one because there has been much speculation in the media, and wrongly so, about what would happen to these records. They will be handed over to the control of the Valuation Office for permanent storage. There is absolutely no question that any part of them will be destroyed.

(Limerick East): Will the Minister inform the House how the staff of the land valuation office have been deployed?

That is a separate question and I have not got the full details but, as the Deputy knows, many of the staff have already been transferred to various parts of the public service and some have been laid off.

(Limerick East): Will the Minister supply that information to me?

I will, definitely. It was the subject of a question some time ago and I gave the details then but I have no hesitation in giving them to the Deputy again.

Will the Minister indicate to the House the overall assessment of acres that has taken place? Will he also indicate how far down the scale the assessment had progressed? Had it reached 100 acres, 150 acres or what level had been reached?

I do not have the percentages but I will give the figures which are shown at the end of the tabular statement. The gross acreage assessed was 840,102 acres and the adjusted acreage was 535,693 acres.

Arising from the Minister's reply on the storage of material, will such records be available to Deputies should they wish to have access to some information or will they be available to those carrying out research on agriculture should they make application?

Much of the records relate to individual holdings and, as such, would be in the same category as individual tax records which would not be open to public inspection.

Might I ask——

I cannot dwell all day on this question. Deputy Kennedy, a brief question, please. I have dwelt overlong on question No. 3 which, I repeat, is essentially a statistical question involving a tabular statement.

Did I hear the Minister correctly in saying that the assessments would continue?

No, they will be discontinued.

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