Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 17 Jun 1987

Vol. 373 No. 9

Order of Business.

The Taoiseach

It is proposed to take Nos. 12, 13 and 14.

It is also proposed that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. today and not later than 12.30 a.m. tomorrow and business shall be interrupted at 12 midnight tonight.

It is further proposed that the Committee and Remaining Stages of No. 13 shall be taken not later than 8.30 p.m. tonight and shall be brought to a conclusion not later than 11 p.m. tonight by one question which shall be put from the Chair and which shall, in relation to amendments, include only amendments set down by the Minister for the Environment.

It is further proposed that all Stages of No. 14 shall be brought to a conclusion not later than 12.00 midnight tonight by one question which shall be put from the Chair and which, shall, in relation to amendments, include only amendments set down by the Minister for Tourism and Transport.

Private Members' Business shall be No. 25.

Mr. D. O'Malley

I find it most unsatisfactory that two Bills of this kind — the Urban Renewal (Amendment) Bill and the Tourist Traffic Bill — should be taken in their entirety in just a few hours tonight and, in particular, that the Tourist Traffic Bill, which deals with tourism policy which one would think was a matter of some importance, is taken in one hour, between 11 p.m. and 12 midnight tonight, and that no amendments can be made on that Bill or on the other Bill unless in the name of the Minister. All this is apparently because of the unwillingness of the House to sit during the months of July or September, so far as one can judge. This is not satisfactory, particularly when taken in the context that the rest of the Committee Stage of the Finance Bill has to be finished by 7 p.m. today.

An Ceann Comhairle

These proposals are properly before the House now and it is for the House to decide.

The Taoiseach

The Tourist Traffic Bill is simply an enabling Bill to increase the amount of expenditure at the disposal of Bord Fáilte. This is a routine enabling, minor piece of legislation. The Second Stage of the Urban Renewal (Amendment) Bill has been dealt with by the House, and the Committee Stage of the Finance Bill, as everybody knows, has to be through by a certain date. The procedure proposed here is not unreasonable and is one which has been followed on countless occasions in this House, many a time when Deputy O'Malley was a Member of the Government or Government Chief Whip and proposed exactly the sort of arrangement we are proposing now.

(Interruptions.)

Mr. Barry

Would the Taoiseach make time available today to discuss the support given by the Fianna Fáil Party in the European Parliament yesterday where a motion which called the European Foreign Ministers to work in political co-operation to promote the European concept of security, drawing up a list of aims regarding arms——

An Ceann Comhairle

That does not arise on the Order of Business.

Mr. Barry

I am asking the Taoiseach if he will make time available to discuss this matter which is another apparent U-turn by the Fianna Fáil Party to add to the Single European Act, privatisation, the Anglo-Irish Agreement——

An Ceann Comhairle

This does not arise on the Order of Business.

Mr. Barry

I want to know if this is another U-turn

An Ceann Comhairle

This is something which could be arranged by the Whips.

Mr. Barry

I want to know whether Mr. Lalor had the support of the——

An Ceann Comhairle

Order. I am calling Deputy Mac Giolla.

Mr. Deasy

The Russians are off the west coast.

Mr. Barry

Can we have time to discuss this U-turn.

An Ceann Comhairle

I have no control over that.

Tomás Mac Giolla

I also wish to express——

Mr. Barry

I want to know if Mr. Lalor was speaking on behalf of his party and——

(Interruptions.)

Mr. Dukes

On a point of order, unless I am very much mistaken, it is in order on the Order of Business to ask the Government if they will make time available for a debate? May I ask if you would put the question to the Taoiseach?

An Ceann Comhairle

The Chair cannot compel any Member of this House to speak.

Mr. Dukes

The Chair cannot compel but the Chair can certainly invite the Taoiseach——

An Ceann Comhairle

Deputy Mac Giolla.

Mr. Dukes

On a point of order, the Chair can invite the Taoiseach to answer. If the Taoiseach wishes not to answer then we will draw our own conclusions. On the other hand, he may wish to answer. However, it is in order on the Order of Business to ask if the Government will make time available——

The Taoiseach

The question is not in order.

Mr. Barry

May I ask the Taoiseach if the Member of the European Parliament, Mr. Lalor, speaking on behalf of his party has the support of the Government in this matter?

The Taoiseach

The Deputy knows the order of the House——

Mr. Barry

If I put down a question to the Taoiseach will he see that it is not transferred?

An Ceann Comhairle

If the Deputy wants to find time, he will have to look for alternative ways of discussing this matter. I am calling Deputy Mac Giolla.

Tomás Mac Giolla

I find the ineptness of the proceedings amazing when the Leader of the Opposition is unable to discover what is in order and what is not on the Order of Business. I also wish to express my opposition to the imposition of the guillotine on three occasions today, but in particular on the Finance Bill which, it was mentioned yesterday ——

An Ceann Comhairle

That matter was decided ——

Tomás Mac Giolla

I am simply asking if the Whips of the Government and the main Opposition parties would reconsider this matter and extend the discussions on the Finance Bill from 8.30 p.m. until midnight because of the importance of this legislation. Would they reconsider the guillotine which has been imposed on this most important Bill, particularly today's sections which are of vital consequence?

An Ceann Comhairle

Matters appertaining to the arrangements for the taking of the Finance Bill were decided yesterday and I cannot allow them to be raised again today.

Mr. Keating

Arising from the reply by the Taoiseach to Deputy O'Malley, does he think it right and proper that the Bill dealing with tourism, to which he referred as a fairly minor matter, should be taken in one hour without any limitation on the length of speeches? This effectively means that parties and Deputies generally will not be able to comment on the measure because the limitation of one hour means there will be no democratic participation. It would not be unreasonable ——

An Ceann Comhairle

The Deputy has made his point.

Mr. Keating

Does the Taoiseach accept that the summary scheduling of the Order of Business is desirable and essential, otherwise we will have dissatisfaction every day? It is unreasonable to expect the House to debate any Bill — particularly a Bill of significance — in one hour. It means the Minister can speak for half an hour and one Opposition spokesman can speak for the remaining half hour. Nobody can accept that and I ask the Taoiseach to seriously consider my remarks as a genuine attempt to be constructive. Everybody wants to particpate in the processes of this House but the Order of Business means we cannot do so. It is not reasonable, fair or democratic and the Taoiseach and everybody else knows that. I ask the Taoiseach to comment on my remarks.

An Ceann Comhairle

I cannot compel him to do so.

Mr. Keating

Will you at least give the Taoiseach a chance to do so? Ask him if he wishes to comment.

The Taoiseach

I have already replied to the leader of your party.

Mr. Keating

Will the Taoiseach reply to the point I made?

The Taoiseach

The point has no validity.

Mr. Keating

The point has perfect validity. Does the Taoiseach not accept ——

An Ceann Comhairle

This is leading to argument. If Members seriously wish to challenge the arrangements for the Order of Business they will be afforded an opportunity of doing so.

Mr. Keating

We simply want ——

An Ceann Comhairle

I am calling Deputy Hussey. Deputy Keating will resume his seat and desist from interrupting the Chair.

Mr. Keating

If you were as firm with the Government ——

An Ceann Comhairle

If the Deputy persists I will have to ask him to leave the House. He may not speak from a sitting position.

(Interruptions.)

An Ceann Comhairle

Deputy Keating, I ask you for the last time ——

Mr. Keating

With respect, you rebuked me for speaking from a sitting position but you did not say anything to the Taoiseach when he did the same.

An Ceann Comhairle

I will not tolerate any further this insolent approach to the Chair by the Deputy.

Mr. Keating

I regret it is interpreted as insolence. I am trying to be reasonable.

Mrs. Hussey

The Minister for Education stated yesterday in the House that she hoped to have the question of the theft of examination papers clarified within a matter of hours. Will she now assure the House that there is no threat——

An Ceann Comhairle

It is not in order to raise this matter now. The Deputy may find another opportunity of doing so.

Mrs. Hussey

When? Will you please tell me what other opportunity I have of raising it?

An Ceann Comhairle

The Deputy may seek to raise it on the Adjournment or she could put down a question.

Mrs. Hussey

I seek to raise this matter by way of Private Notice Question.

An Ceann Comhairle

I will consider it.

Mrs. Doyle

Will the Taoiseach make a statement clarifying the Government's position in relation to the Russian flotilla off the Cork coast?

Mr. Allen

It is off the Kerry coast.

Mrs. Doyle

Perhaps NATO are using Inismhicealáin——

The Taoiseach

We have enough men down there.

Mrs. Doyle

Where are there?

Mr. M. Higgins

I am reluctant to distract attention from the presence of fleets around our coast but, as Foreign Affairs spokesman for the Labour Party, I suggest that the Taoiseach should consider placing in the Library of the House a statement as to the procedures and practices followed in relation to European Political Co-operation so that we may assess the status of statements made by individuals in Europe and elsewhere which affect us.

An Ceann Comhairle

That matter does not arise now.

Mr. M. Higgins

Is this not the appropriate time to ask the Taoiseach if he will consider lodging——

An Ceann Comhairle

I am afraid not, Deputy.

Mr. Birmingham

I wish to raise on the Adjournment the question of the decision by the Government to end the career guidance service traditionally provided by the Department of Education.

An Ceann Comhairle

I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Allen

Will the Minister for Health say what steps he proposes to take to protect children at risk who are affected by the official strike in the ISPCC?

An Ceann Comhairle

That hardly arises now.

Mr. Allen

Will the Minister answer my question? I will put down a Private Notice Question in this regard.

Mr. Deasy

There is widespread public concern about the legal position governing the health contributions paid in 1979. I have repeatedly asked the Taoiseach if he will tell us if those health contribution payments should be refunded because of the decision in Youghal District Court on 28 May.

An Ceann Comhairle

That does not arise on the Order of Business. Deputy Deasy must know he will have to find other ways and means of raising that matter.

Mr. Deasy

Can you advise me what other procedure I can take to get my question answered?

The Taoiseach

Put down a Dáil question.

Mr. Cullen

The attitude of the Taoiseach in regard to the Tourist Traffic Bill is completely irreconcilable with the Government's attitude to tourism. How can we discuss an important aspect of future development of tourism in one hour? I was democratically elected to this House and I find that a dictatorship is in operation. I worked hard to have a voice in this Chamber but my democratic rights are being taken away with the collusion of the Taoiseach and Deputy Dukes.

An Ceann Comhairle

Deputy Cullen has made his point.

Mr. G. Mitchell

In view of the fact that the holes dug by the Gas Company are now at the gates of Leinster House, will the Taoiseach or the Minister for the Environment tell the House when we may expect the building by-law legislation which was urgently pressed for in the consultants' report following the explosion at Raglan House?

The Taoiseach

My colleague, the Minister for the Environment, informs me that the answer is "shortly".

Mr. G. Mitchell

There could be a massive explosion.

Mr. Durkan

In view of the imminence of an announcement in relation to the details of a beef deal, will the Taoiseach indicate whether Members will have an opportunity to discuss this matter in the House?

An Ceann Comhairle

That does not arise on the Order of Business.

Mr. Durkan

Will the Taoiseach indicate whether he proposes to make an announcement in the House as there is widespread concern as to the full implications?

Mr. McCartan

I wish to raise two matters with the Taoiseach. When will the Government meet their commitment as promised in their recent election manifesto to decriminalise homelessness by repealing the Vagrancy Act, 1824? I wish to raise on the Adjournment the failure of the Department of Justice to adequately investigate a serious incident of assault involving members of the prison staff at Mountjoy in September 1986.

An Ceann Comhairle

I shall communicate with the Deputy in respect of the latter.

Mr. McCartan

I would be anxious to hear from the Taoiseach. I believe it is appropriate to know when the Government intend to introduce the promised decriminalisation of homelessness, this being the International Year of the Homeless. It is an important matter.

The Taoiseach

I have already indicated that the Bill dealing with homeless persons is imminent and that the Minister for the Environment has promised to consult with a number of involved organisations before finalising. Those consultations are taking place at this very moment. As soon as they are completed the Bill will be brought forward.

Mr. McCartan

My question was not in that regard, although I am happy to hear that it is imminent. I am interested to know when the Government might honour one commitment they made which was the repeal of the 1824 Vagrancy Act which makes it an offence to be found abroad without a roof over one's head.

The Taoiseach

That will be covered in the Bill I have mentioned.

Mr. D. O'Malley

May I inquire from the Taoiseach if he proposes to intervene to change the present situation whereby Whips' meetings in this House are held between only the Government Whip and the Fine Gael Whip? Does he propose to restore the situation that existed here for upwards of 60 years whereby Whips' meetings were held between the Whips of all the parties in the House? In restoring the previous situation, the difficulties of trying to get information on the Order of Business, as was the case today as well as on other days, could be avoided.

The Taoiseach

Perhaps the matter could be discussed between the Whips at any time.

Mr. D. O'Malley

That is the very point. The Whips are not discussing anything. That is why the inquiry has to be made here. By virtue of the silly answer the Taoiseach has just given, it is obvious that he approves of and wishes to retain the present situation. That is part of a larger picture which is fairly ominous and about which quite a number of people are becoming rather concerned. It does not just include the members of the Progressive Democrats and the Labour Party.

An Ceann Comhairle

I want to come to dealing with the Order of Business before the House. We have not dealt with it yet.

Mr. Desmond

If the Taoiseach is not careful, this Coalition could break up.

An Ceann Comhairle

There are still a number of Deputies offering.

Mr. Flynn

Alliance of the left.

An Ceann Comhairle

Order, please.

Mr. D. O'Malley

Is the Taoiseach going to retain the situation whereby the Whips of all the parties are excluded? That would mean that we are going to have a continuation of the difficulties we have had in this House in recent times, that these difficulties will operate indefinitely into the future. It is on the Taoiseach's head if that is the case.

Mr. Yates

When is it intended to restore to the Order Paper the Restrictive Practices (Amendment) Bill, 1986 establishing the new fair trade commission as promised in a written answer by the Minister for Industry and Commerce?

The Taoiseach

It has begun today.

Miss Kennedy

As the Progressive Democrats are excluded from the Whips' meetings may I ask the Taoiseach when it is proposed to adjourn the Dáil for the summer recess and when it is proposed that the House will resume after the recess.

The Taoiseach

That is a matter for the Whips.

Mr. D. O'Malley

All two of them.

Mr. Yates

Arising out of the Taoiseachs reply——

The Taoiseach

I answered that question yesterday.

Mr. Yates

——there are two Restrictive Practices (Amendment) Bills, one dealing with below cost selling and the other with the establishment of the new fair trade commission. It was the latter to which I was referring.

The Taoiseach

Next week.

Mr. Stagg

I want again to ask the Taoiseach on the Order of Business when the Government propose to introduce the promised legislation for the abolition of local charges. This was promised specifically by the Taoiseach and by the Government in their election manifesto and election literature.

Mr. Howlin

No comment?

Mr. Keating

It is a matter for the Whips.

Mr. Stagg

The Taoiseach promised specifically to introduce legislation to abolish local charges for local authority services.

An Ceann Comhairle

Deputy, I think the Taoiseach was about to reply.

The Taoiseach

As I understand it, the legitimacy of raising matters on the Order of Business refers to legislation promised by the Government.

Mrs. Hussey

Not election promises.

The Taoiseach

This Government have not promised any such legislation.

(Interruptions.)

An Ceann Comhairle

Deputy Stagg, please resume your seat.

Mr. Stagg

My question is on the Order of Business and it should be allowed.

An Ceann Comhairle

Deputy Stagg, please resume your seat.

Mr. Stagg

Answers were given to other questions raised on this matter. The Chair is being unfair to me.

An Ceann Comhairle

I would ask Deputy Stagg for the last time to resume his seat. He is continuing to disobey the Chair, I shall have to ask him to leave the House.

Mr. Stagg

Those other questions were similar to the matter I am raising.

An Ceann Comhairle

Deputy Stagg will now leave the House.

Deputy Stagg withdrew from the Chamber.

An Ceann Comhairle

I am proceeding now to the Order of Business.

Mr. Sherlock

I have a question to ask. I seldom get the opportunity.

An Ceann Comhairle

We have been some length hearing questions from Deputies. At some stage I must get the Order of Business approved.

Mr. Sherlock

I have one point to raise. In view of all the important legislation which is needed and which has been promised by the Government, would the Taoiseach say when it is proposed that the Dáil will recess and will he continue——

An Ceann Comhairle

That question has been asked.

Mr. Sherlock

——the business of the Dáil in introducing that important legislation?

Mr. J. Walsh

With your permission, a Cheann Comhairle, I would like to raise on the Adjournment the matter of the serious situation in the North Connaught Farmers' Co-operative area where farmers are selling milk quotas to farmers outside the co-op area. This is devastating to the west of Ireland.

An Ceann Comhairle

I shall communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Taylor

I wish to raise on the Adjournment the matter of the complete absence of funds in the Dublin local authorities for the construction of extensions for disabled persons.

An Ceann Comhairle

I shall communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. D. O'Malley

As the Progressive Democrats are excluded from attending meetings of the Whips, may I inquire from the Taoiseach, since I have no other forum through which I can do so, the date on which it is proposed that the Dáil should adjourn and the date on which the Dáil should re-assemble? Deputy Kennedy has already attempted to get this information.

An Ceann Comhairle

Order, please. I assume that a motion in respect of that matter will come before the House in due course, when Deputies may express their views.

Mr. D. O'Malley

It is perfectly normal that parties in the House should be given some notice of these dates so that Deputies can make ——

A Deputy

Holiday arrangements.

Mr. D. O'Malley

—— appropriate arrangements. I am making that inquiry Sir, which I think has been made by people in my position down through the years in this House.

An Ceann Comhairle

The Deputy has asked a question.

Mr. D. O'Malley

I am wondering why I am not getting the courtesy of a reply today.

An Ceann Comhairle

I am proceeding with the Order of Business.

Mr. D. O'Malley

I am not getting the courtesy of a reply.

An Ceann Comhairle

Would the Deputy please allow me to proceed to deal with the Order of Business?

Mr. M. Higgins

A Cheann Comhairle, I am not trying to be persistent. If this experience is not to be repeated every morning, is it not in all our interests to be allowed to participate in estabishing the Order of Business through the normal accepted convention of Whips' meetings?

An Ceann Comhairle

That point has been very well put this morning by a number of Deputies.

Mr. M. Higgins

We want to know when legislation will be on the Order Paper. We are elected to provide that information and entitled to get that answer. I want to know before the Dáil finishes as to whether this convention that has been established of two Whips overriding entirely the wishes of the House to participate in ordering the business will continue? If so, it will disrupt the business of this House, both in the remainder of this term and in the next.

An Ceann Comhairle

That viewpoint has been well ventilated today and yesterday.

Mr. M. Higgins

It has not been answered.

Mr. D. O'Malley

The behaviour of the Taoiseach is a disgrace. And look at the man who calls himself the Leader of the Opposition. What is he opposing?

Mr. Dukes

What do the Progressive Democrats stand for?

Mr. D. O'Malley

Parliaments in which that sort of thing happened before did not remain parliaments for long.

An Ceann Comhairle

Order.

Mr. Keating

Reichstag stuff this is.

(Interruptions.)

Mr. Keating

We are right and the Taoiseach knows we are right.

An Ceann Comhairle

Is the late sitting arrangement agreed? Agreed. Are the arrangements proposed in relation to No. 13 agreed?

Mr. D. O'Malley

No.

Question put: "That the arrangements as proposed by the Taoiseach in relation to item No. 13 be agreed to."

The Dáil divided: Tá, 109, Níl, 24.

Tá

• Abbott, Henry.
• Ahern, Bertie.
• Ahern, Dermot.
• Aylward, Liam.
• Barrett, Michael.
• Barrett, Seán.
• Barry, Peter.
• Begley, Michael.
• Birmingham, George.
• Boland, John.
• Boylan, Andrew.
• Brady, Gerard.
• Brady, Vincent.
• Brennan, Matthew.
• Briscoe, Ben.
• Browne, John.
• Bruton, John.
• Bruton, Richard.
• Burke, Liam.
• Burke, Ray.
• Byrne, Hugh.
• Calleary, Seán.
• Carey, Donal.
• Collins, Gerard.
• Conaghan, Hugh.
• Connolly, Ger.
• Coughlan, Mary T.
• Cowen, Brian.
• Creed, Donal.
• Crowley, Frank.
• Daly, Brendan.
• Davern, Noel.
• Dempsey, Noel.
• Dennehy, John.
• de Valera, Síle.
• Doherty, Seán.
• Doyle, Avril.
• Dukes, Alan.
• Durkan, Bernard.
• Ellis, John.
• Enright, Thomas.
• Fahey, Frank.
• Fahey, Jackie.
• FitzGerald, Garret.
• Fitzgerald, Liam.
• Fitzpatrick, Dermott.
• Flaherty, Mary.
• Flanagan, Charles.
• Flood, Chris.
• Flynn, Pádraig.
• Gallagher, Denis.
• Gallagher, Pat the Cope.
• Geoghegan-Quinn, Máire.
• Griffin, Brendan.
• Haughey, Charles J.
• Hegarty, Paddy.
• Ahern, Michael.
• Allen, Bernard.
• Andrews, David.
• Higgins, Jim.
• Hilliard, Colm Michael.
• Hussey, Gemma.
• Hyland, Liam.
• Jacob, Joe.
• Kenny, Enda.
• Kirk, Séamus.
• Kitt, Michael P.
• Kitt, Tom.
• Lawlor, Liam.
• Lenihan, Brian.
• Leonard, Jimmy.
• Lowry, Michael.
• Lynch, Michael.
• Lyons, Denis.
• McCarthy, Seán.
• McCreevy, Charlie.
• McGahon, Brendan.
• MacSharry, Ray.
• Mitchell, Gay.
• Morley, P.J.
• Moynihan, Donal.
• Naughten, Liam.
• Nealon, Ted.
• Nolan, M.J.
• Noonan, Michael.
• (Limerick East).
• Noonan, Michael J.
• (Limerick West).
• O'Dea, William Gerard.
• O'Donoghue, John.
• O'Hanlon, Rory.
• O'Keeffe, Batt.
• O'Keeffe, Jim.
• O'Keeffe, Ned.
• O'Leary, John.
• O'Rourke, Mary.
• Power, Paddy.
• Reynolds, Albert.
• Roche, Dick.
• Shatter, Alan.
• Sheehan, P.J.
• Smith, Michael.
• Stafford, John.
• Treacy, Noel.
• Tunney, Jim.
• Wallace, Dan.
• Walsh, Joe.
• Walsh, Seán.
• Wilson, John P.
• Woods, Michael.
• Wright, G.V.

Níl

• Clohessy, Peadar.
• Colley, Anne.
• Cullen, Martin.
• De Rossa, Proinsias.
• Desmond, Barry.
• Gibbons, Martin Patrick.
• Harney, Mary.
• Higgins, Michael D.
• Howlin, Brendan.
• Kavanagh, Liam.
• Keating, Michael.
• Kennedy, Geraldine.
• McCartan, Pat.
• McCoy, John S.
• McDowell, Michael.
• Mac Giolla, Tomás.
• Molloy, Robert.
• O'Malley, Desmond J.
• O'Sullivan, Toddy.
• Quill, Máirín.
• Sherlock, Joe.
• Spring, Dick.
• Taylor, Mervyn.
• Wyse, Pearse.

Tellers: Tá, Deputies V. Brady and Browne; Níl, Deputies Kennedy and Howlin.

Question declared carried.

An Ceann Comhairle

Are the arrangements proposed in relation to item No. 14 agreed?

Mr. D. O'Malley

No.

An Ceann Comhairle

I am putting the question: "That the arrangements as announced by the Taoiseach in relation to item No. 14 be agreed to."

Question put.

The Dáil divided: Tá, 75; Níl, 23.

Tá

• Abbott, Henry.
• Ahern, Bertie.
• Ahern, Dermot.
• Ahern, Michael.
• Andrews, David.
• Aylward, Liam.
• Barrett, Michael.
• Brady, Gerard.
• Brady, Vincent.
• Brennan, Matthew.
• Briscoe, Ben.
• Browne, John.
• Burke, Ray.
• Byrne, Hugh.
• Calleary, Seán.
• Collins, Gerard.
• Conaghan, Hugh.
• Connolly, Ger.
• Coughlan, Mary T.
• Cowen, Brian.
• Daly, Brendan.
• Davern, Noel.
• Dempsey, Noel.
• Dennehy, John.
• de Valera, Síle.
• Doherty, Seán.
• Ellis, John.
• Fahey, Frank.
• Fahey, Jackie.
• Fitzgerald, Liam.
• Fitzpatrick, Dermott.
• Flood, Chris.
• Flynn, Pádraig.
• Gallagher, Denis.
• Gallagher, Pat the Cope.
• Geoghegan-Quinn, Máire.
• Haughey, Charles J.
• Hilliard, Colm Michael.
• Hyland, Liam.
• Jacob, Joe.
• Kirk, Séamus.
• Kitt, Michael P.
• Kitt, Tom.
• Lawlor, Liam.
• Lenihan, Brian.
• Leonard, Jimmy.
• Lynch, Michael.
• Lyons, Denis.
• McCarthy, Seán.
• McCreevy, Charlie.
• MacSharry, Ray.
• Morley, P.J.
• Moynihan, Donal.
• Nolan, M.J.
• Noonan, Michael J. (Limerick West).
• O'Dea, William Gerard.
• O'Donoghue, John.
• O'Hanlon, Rory.
• O'Keeffe, Batt.
• O'Keeffe, Ned.
• O'Leary, John.
• O'Rourke, Mary.
• Power, Paddy.
• Reynolds, Albert.
• Roche, Dick.
• Smith, Michael.
• Stafford, John.
• Treacy, Noel.
• Tunney, Jim.
• Wallace, Dan.
• Walsh, Joe.
• Walsh, Seán.
• Wilson, John P.
• Woods, Michael.
• Wright, G.V.

Níl

• Clohessy, Peadar.
• Colley, Anne.
• Cullen, Martin.
• De Rossa, Proinsias.
• Desmond, Barry.
• Gibbons, Martin Patrick.
• McCoy, John S.
• McDowell, Michael.
• Mac Giolla, Tomás.
• Molloy, Robert.
• O'Malley, Desmond J.
• O'Sullivan, Toddy.
• Higgins, Michael D.
• Howlin, Brendan.
• Kavanagh, Liam.
• Keating, Michael.
• Kennedy, Geraldine.
• McCartan, Pat.
• Quill, Máirín.
• Sherlock, Joe.
• Spring, Dick.
• Taylor, Mervyn.
• Wyse, Pearse.

Tellers: Tá, Deputies V. Brady and Browne; Níl, Deputies Kennedy and Howlin.

Question declared carried.