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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 17 Jun 1987

Vol. 373 No. 9

Estimates, 1987. - Tourist Traffic Bill, 1987: Second and Subsequent Stages.

Molaim: "Go léifear an Bille don Dara Uair."

The Bill provides for increasing the statutory limits on the total amount of grant-in-aid which may be paid out by Bord Fáilte for development purposes. The current statutory limit on grant expenditure for amenity development will be reached before the end of this year while the limit on Exchequer grant assistance for the development of tourism accommodation will be reached sometime in 1988. Consequently, it is necessary to increase the amenity limit immediately to permit Bord Failte to make full use of its capital allocations for 1987. It is also appropriate at this stage to increase also the accommodation limit.

The statutory limits were last raised to £30 million and £14 million respectively by the Tourist Traffic Act, 1983. The increases of £6 million and £4 million on accommodation and amenity limits, respectively, now being proposed in section 2 of this Bill, under present policies, could be expected to cover grant payments until at least 1990. That seems to be a rational situation.

I want to emphasise that this does not imply continuation of existing grant schemes or introduction of new schemes in the foreseeable future. The existing schemes are subject to review each year during the annual Estimates exercise and their continuance would be subject to rigorous appraisal and also require approval by Dáil Éireann.

I should like to articulate further the importance of tourism for our economy and the Government's strategy for its development. Sustainable increases in employment numbers and opportunities are the Government's number one priority. To achieve this we must develop those sectors where we have a natural advantage or the materials to develop and sell a good product in international markets.

One such sector is tourism which has been singled out by the Government as a target area for the generation of wealth and jobs. Tourism is one of the fastest growing industries in the world. If present trends continue, it will, by the end of this century, be the largest single industry in the world. I repeat, it will be the largest single industry in the world. It is difficult to believe that manufacturing industry claimed the headlines in this area hitherto. They used to say what was good for General Motors was good for the USA, and what was good for the USA was good for the world. Tourism will soon be the largest single industry in the world. Provided we can produce a good quality product at the right price and market it professionally, there is no reason why we cannot increase our share of this rapidly growing market.

Within six weeks of coming to office the Government had agreed the broad strategy for developing the tourism sector. It has five essential elements: to revive confidence in the industry by demonstrating the Government's commitment to it; develop and improve the competitiveness of our existing products; expand the range of products we offer in line with changing tastes and new demands in international markets; provide extensive and cheap access to Ireland for foreign tourists; and, I want to emphasise this, to be more selective and aggressive in our marketing of Irish tourism. The Government's package announced on 3 May was the first phase in implementing this strategy. It has worked magnificently well. Confidence in the industry has revived and all the major operators have offered significant price reductions to improve our competitiveness. I would like to pay a tribute to them for having done so. They realised this was in their best interests and they did it. The contents of this Bill mainly deal with product development. Grant assistance is only one of a range of incentives provided to stimulate investment in product development. These incentives include concessionary loan finance run by the Industrial Credit Corporation in conjunction with the European Investment Bank and availability of funding from the National Development Corporation.

Meanwhile the extension of the business expansion scheme to export tourism provided for in the Finance Bill currently before the House will act as a further stimulus to investment by the industry in tourism. I have received many congratulatory messages about the extension of the business expansion scheme to export tourism. Obviously people were anxious that this should happen and they are now ready, willing and able to participate. It completes what is now a very comprehensive and attractive series of investment incentives for tourism. However, incentives and a willingness on the part of the industry to use them are not in themselves sufficient to ensure maximum return for the national economy on resultant investment. Investment must be directed at developing a range of products for which there is clear demand and a well organised marketing strategy.

The tourism sector is complex and diffuse and, consequently, more dependent on the State than other sectors for the overall leadership which is now an absolute pre-requisite for success. The application of the business expansion scheme to export tourism will be designed to channel investment into the kind of tourist facilities which offer the best possibilities for a speedy return to the economy in terms of foreign revenue, tourism numbers and jobs created. It is my intention that a similar sense of market sensitivity will also be applied to the future allocation of grant assistance.

For too long the tourism sector has been left bereft of the strong, forceful leadership it urgently needs. Although the international tourism market has been growing rapidly over the last decade, our share has been declining. To realise the full potential for job and wealth creation of this sector we need not only to recover lost market share but to increase substantially our performance in a market currently projected to double between now and the year 2000.

Already the Government have shown quite clearly their determination to give the kind of leadership the sector needs for a return to growth. On assuming office we carried out a full appraisal of the targets which Bord Fáilte had set for the 1987 season. We were frankly shocked by the complacency and lack of ambition which they showed for the sector. The new revised targets which have now been set by the Government reflect more accurately the industry's capacity for growth, and the current opportunities in the market. If we do not set out seriously to pursue and seek growth, then we will not achieve it. We are perturbed about the continental market, particularly the German market. We want to target that market and increase the numbers of tourists coming from that area.

The amalgamation of tourism with transport in one Department at this time of change, especially in international aviation, provides unique opportunities to encourage and facilitate increased foreign tourist traffic. Our policy is to ensure that the benefits of increased competition are, first and foremost, concentrated in our main tourist markets. Our success in persuading the carriers to agree to sponsor the attractive fare packages on key tourist routes announced in the Government's 1987 tourism programme provides powerful testimony of the Government's determination to implement its drive for tourism growth with greater efficiency and competitiveness in the transport sector. Government efforts in providing an additional £1.25 million for foreign promotion this year provides further proof of our commitment to this sector.

There are strong indications that Government action on tourism is working. Reaction from the tourism industry has been overwhelmingly positive. This is underwritten by their willingness to offer significant price reductions, something I mentioned already, to complement our programmes for this year. Prospects for the 1987 tourist season are excellent. The director general of Bord Fáilte has stated that Irish tourism is on target for one of its best ever years with great buoyancy being shown in all sectors — both foreign and domestic.

We should not forget the domestic market. We hope to strongly emphasise the importance of this market, so that holiday money which might go elsewhere will be spent at home. Preliminary results for the first quarter of the year show that traffic from Britain grew by nearly 19 per cent. Traffic from America jumped by 24.6 per cent over the same period last year, which was not a good year for US tourist traffic. I should point out that the period to which I am referring, in which we had a 24.6 per cent increase over the same period last year, was before the Libyan crisis and the Chernobyl disaster. Those two events had a great impact on our tourist industry last year, to its detriment.

Continental European traffic grew by over 8 per cent, making an overall growth of overseas visitors of 17 per cent for the January-March period. The figure of 8 per cent is not satisfactory as far as continental European traffic is concerned and we intend to target that sector very strongly with a view to substantially increasing it. I had a meeting today with a French based group and they indicated that they would be bringing 20,000 visitors to Ireland in the autumn, which is very welcome news and shows considerable enterprise on the part of the south of Ireland tour operator.

Preliminary results for April show that this trend is continuing; inquiries at Bord Fáilte overseas offices are up, while air and sea operators and the large tour operators and organisers of travel to Ireland from our main markets are all confidently forecasting growth on 1986. I do not want to emphasise 1986 because it was not a good year for the tourist industry.

This momentum will be maintained. There will be no let-up on the Government's part. I intend to put in place in time for the 1988 tourist season a strategy which will build on this year's success and guide expansion in the sector up to 1993. We are promising a new era for Irish tourism.

Returning to the Bill now before the House. I should explain that the main elements are contained in section 2. Section 2(1) deals with the limits on grant aid to holiday accommodation. Grant assistance of over £5 million has been provided by the Government, through Bord Fáilte, for the development of holiday accommodation since the limit was last raised in 1983. This grant expenditure has had a positive effect on the upgrading and expansion of our accommodation stock. Specific grants have been available at various stages for the hotel and guest-house sector, the caravan and camping sectors, town and country homes, farmhouses and also for the expansion of the youth hostel network.

Accommodation schemes in operation at the moment are for caravan and camping and for the supplementary holiday accommodation sectors which cover town and country homes and farmhouses. There is a special need in these areas to continue to improve standards and upgrade facilities. They represent a very important element of the accommodation sector and are particularly well suited for growth, in line with the trend towards more outdoor-activity type holidays.

The scope of the supplementary holiday accommodation scheme was extended earlier this year, and now applies nationwide. Previously the scheme excluded County Dublin and premises within a seven mile radius of Cork city and a three mile radius of towns of over 3,000 population. How far is Kilkenny from Cork? However, the widening gap between standards of similar accommodation in urban areas and in rural areas in recent years justified this extension.

This particular accommodation category has the highest satisfaction rating from foreign visitors of any accommodation product and we are most anxious that this level of satisfaction be maintained. It is interesting to note that all the information coming to Bord Fáilte indicates that the degree of satisfaction is very high.

By the end of this year Bord Fáilte will have paid out almost £29.6 million in grant aid for accommodation since first introduced by the Tourist Traffic Act of 1959. This leaves less than £.4 million remaining before the statutory limit of £30 million in reached. I, therefore, propose that the statutory limit be raised now from £30 million to £36 million. This will be adequate to cover existing accommodation schemes until 1990, at the earliest, as well as allowing some leeway for their extension or possible introduction of new schemes should the House decide that this is warranted.

Section 2(2) deals with grant expenditure for the development of tourism related facilities and amenities. The existing statutory limit on grants of this nature is £14 million and expenditure up to the end of 1986 amounted to almost £13 million. The 1987 allocation for this type of grant expenditure is just £1.2 million, bringing aggregate expenditure on amenity development by the end of this year to over £14 million. The current statutory limit of £14 million must, therefore, be increased now to ensure completion of this year's amenity development programme.

Since 1983 the Government, through Bord Fáilte, have provided almost £4 million in grant assistance for the development of tourism amenities and facilities in the non-accommodation area. This expenditure has stimulated the development of a wide variety of facilities including angling — of great interest to my area — inland waterway development projects, heritage centres and the upgrading and extension of the local tourism information network, which has been marvellously improved. Other areas of major grant expenditure include water sports facilities, equestrian centres, historical and cultural sites, parks and great houses and gardens.

As I said earlier, the statutory limit covering this particular area will be reached during the current year and I am accordingly proposing that the limit be increased from £14 million to £18 million.

Tá áthas orm an fhaill a bheith agam teacht anseo chun an Bille seo a mholadh don Dáil. Tá a fhios agam go mbeidh tacaíocht le fáil agam ó na páirtithe éagsúla chun tionscal seo na turasóirechta a fheabhsú, a fhorbairt agus a chur ar aghaidh. Dá bhrí sin, molaim an Bille don Dáil.

We support this Bill and indeed anything that will generate growth in the economy and which will attract tourists to our country. The Government and the Minister have their priorities right in this case.

Some of the figures which were trotted out may be a little premature and flattering. To use the years 1984-85 instead of 1986 as a yardstick when measuring the increase in traffic and income from tourists in 1987 may not be reliable because 1986 was a particularly bad year for a variety of reasons, due to the Americans staying away because of the Libyan backed terrorism in the Middle East and further afield and also because of the Chernobyl disaster in the Soviet Union.

The figure for January-March in the Minister's statement of a 17 per cent increase is very encouraging. I hope it is true and that it will be maintained, because obviously that is the low season. The months of June, July, August and September, and even October, are the peak seasons and the numbers in those months will really tell the tale.

There are a number of very important factors when it comes to assessing or viewing the performance of the tourist industry. One, obviously, is the cost involved for the individual tourist. It is the Government's job to bring down costs. We had the job of curbing inflation, which we did extremely successfully. The Government now are endeavouring to reduce, in the medium and long term, the level of taxation. That is designed to cut costs and it is to be lauded. I wish the Government the best of success with that, without bringing about a certain amount of trauma by way of those cuts. They have to be done in the least painful manner possible. We support the Government in that effort because getting costs down is extremely important.

Another very important factor, and one which is not going to go away in the immediate future, is the Northern Ireland problem. Our greatest potential market, which is Britain, is seriously depleted because of the continuing troubles and the fear of British people regarding the situation in all of Ireland. Unfortunatley, they do not realise that the southern part of the country is very trouble free. That problem does not extend just as far as Britain. We get people from southern Ireland who are afraid to go to Northern Ireland. One could hardly blame the British for not wanting to come even to sourthern Ireland. People do not understand that 99.9 per cent of the time things in Northern Ireland are perfectly all right.

There is a mental block there where the British tourists are concerned. I do not know what can be done about it but I would ask the Minister to bear in mind that it is a major impediment to the tourist industry. Hopefully the Anglo-Irish Agreement and the recent general election results will help to make progress in that field. There is a coming together there now. There is a greater understanding that violence will not win out at the end of the day. The hard line Unionists and hard line Republicans in significant numbers have come to realise that there is a better way through constitutional politics. It is a major barrier to our tourist industry; let us not underestimate the impact that it is having.

Another major impediment affecting the industry is access to this country, access at a reasonable price. Again, I compliment the Minister; but, in doing so — and I wish to be perfectly balanced in saying this — we owe a tremendous vote of thanks to the previous Ministers involved in tourism and transport, and the access matter spills over from tourism into transport. They are interlinked; one cannot separate one from the other. When Deputy Mitchell was Minister for Transport he really set the whole thing in motion by starting off the process of deregulation or liberalisation of air fares and also the licensing of independent airlines which are now bringing a vast number of tourists to this country. They thereby boost the figures that the Minister has already referred to. We should be very grateful for airlines like Ryanair, Club Air and Danair, and it is hoped Virgin Airlines will help. We need carriers also, as we did have in previous years, on the North Atlantic run, bringing a cheaper rate. Access is a very important factor; and let us not forget the contribution that Deputy Mitchell made in his capacity as Minister. He started the process going.

There are very important points in the Minister's statement and I am glad to see that he is not afraid to pinpoint difficulties. He does make the point that, while international tourism is growing at a very fast rate, our share of the market has actually declined and we should judge the 1987 figures in that context. He said: "We carried out a full appraisal of the targets which Bord Fáilte had set for the 1987 season. We were frankly shocked by the complacency, and lack of ambition which they showed for the sector".

That is a very revealing statement. It supports many of the views expressed about the industry over the year. It pinpoints the very pertinent question: are we getting good value for money from Bord Fáilte? Are there too many people in offices in the headquarters in Baggot Street and around the country? Are there enough competent people out there selling Ireland as a tourist centre? That is a very important question which really needs to be answered, to be probed into further to see if the £25 million or £27 million — I think it has gone down to £23 million this year — which is being provided for Bord Fáilte is being put to the best possible use.

Let me refer to seasonality. The Minister mentioned possibilities of fishing holidays. When the old gentry had nothing better to do, they would go either hunting, shooting or fishing. We have magnificent potential in what we would call the tourist off-season for activities like that. When Europe and the northern parts of the USA are frozen over, Ireland has these facilities available in abundance. Those areas could be highlighted, advertised and sold. There are small numbers of Americans coming here, for hunting in particular. The Minister referred to discussions he had today with a French group. For the past two or three years French groups have been coming to Killarney and Kerry in general and to Clare, for that matter, in very large numbers. Twenty thousand would not be anything extra to what have been coming over in recent years. That scheme is already in operation and can be expanded. It is something to be encouraged.

Another activity which is a considerable asset and under-utilised, particularly in wintertime, is golf. Again this should prove a tremendous attraction to the Americans and the Japanese, the Japanese who do not have the space and the golf courses to play what has become a tremendously popular sport worldwide. If is an off-season type of activity which can be sold successfully. We should be very concerned about the seasonality of our tourist industry.

We do not have enough bedroom accommodation at the peak period. We find that ourselves in Dublin. Any of us poor devils who have to come to Dublin and suffer this place at times for three or four days in the week will know that. It can be extremely difficult. There is a shortage of beds. That problem is acute for three, four or five months of the year. We should be thinking of developing the off-season tourist market because there is considerable potential.

What worries me most in this country about tourism is that we are not the best in the world where business is concerned. I do not mind saying that, because I am used to being abused. Our business acumen leaves a lot to be desired. We are nice guys and we are good to work when we are put to work, but we are not the best people to organise ourselves. There is a lack of real go-getting individualism in this country. It is a quality we do not have in abundance. One of the more mercenary reasons why we should have reunification of this country is that the Scots and the Ulster Protestants seem to have that business acumen which we in the South seem to lack in a similar degree. We have a tendency to want to make the quick buck, which means that people do not get good value for money and that the service is not as good as it should be. We need to be more professional in our outlook. The Minister of State at the Department of Agriculture and Food, Deputy Joe Walsh, has been slated in the last few days because he said a few unkind words about restaurants and the quality of food. He has a point. Most of the restaurants are good, but too many are not good enough. All these things turn off the foreign tourist. The quality of service needs to be tip-top and the whole approach needs to be very businesslike.

I am sorry that the time for this debate is so short. Other people are very anxious to contribute and will not get the opportunity to do so. We support the Bill and support the Government's efforts to increase our tourist potential.

There is only ten minutes remaining. Deputy Cullen.

Do I have ten minutes?

There is ten minutes remaining but there is another Deputy offering.

The Minister has touched on a wide range of issues in his speech. I am sure he would agree with me that it is deplorable that all Stages of such an important and wide ranging Bill should be put through in about 40 minutes. However, I will do the best I can to deal with the important issue at hand.

Tourism, as the Minister has rightly identified, is one of the fastest growing industries in the world today. Within a very short space of time it will become the largest industry worldwide. The implications for us are quite serious in that there is enormous potential for us from the world tourists coming into this country. I am surprised that there is such urgency in relation to this Bill. As the Minister is aware, the Price Waterhouse report will be a very in-depth study of the Irish tourism industry and will cover a wide range of issues. This report is forthcoming in the immediate future so why is there the urgency to get this Bill through when the report will contain some references to the activities of Bord Fáilte? Some of these references, I am sure, will be positive. The question of what sort of money will be needed in this area could be better reviewed in the light of that report. The Minister in his speech made a staggering statement, but a very honest one, when he said:

On assuming office we carried out a full appraisal of the targets which Bord Fáilte had set for the 1987 season. We were frankly shocked by the complacency, and lack of ambition which they showed for the sector.

This asks many questions with regard to the activities of Bord Fáilte.

The time has come when we must assess what we want to do with the Irish tourist industry. What we are selling today has changed drastically. The general picture of Ireland of the welcomes has served us well in the past but that day has passed us by. The definition of holiday time has changed and is now combined with leisure time. The amount of spare time available to people nowadays is increasing and the disposable incomes of many people throughout the world is also increasing. We must change to a hard product-based tourist industry.

It is about time that we identified the various opportunities and areas of the country that are on offer to the world markets. We should be aggressively marketing many aspects of our country. I refer in particular to golf and the angling industry, which the Minister said his heart is very close to. In Scotland the angling industry is responsible for revenues in excess of £250 million per annum, and this is growing. The question must be asked why this is occurring in Scotland and not in this country. It is because the selling of the product-based industry by many countries has changed in the past number of years.

The Minister quite rightly identified many markets throughout Europe. What he did not say in his identification is what attracts tourists to the various markets they go to. From my experience what attracts tourists, whether as individuals or families, is the specific product base they require for their leisure time. This must be the direction of Irish tourism in the future if we are to grow in this area.

The structure of this approach would, of course, question how Bord Fáilte is organised today. We know that Bord Fáilte is a national institution. They match many other countries in the area of expenditure. But they do not match other countries in the area of regional expenditure in the open market. This leads on to the secondary development which could occur in this country, namely, integrated regional development on a very large scale. I am not saying to the Minister that this type of activity necessarily involves huge sums of money; I do not believe it does. It needs a change of marketing structures and how the people who are paid to promote this country decide to operate in that area.

There are one or two areas I would like to question the Minister on. I am heartened by the Minister's approach to access transport such as provided by Ryanair and other airlines operating in and out of the country. I hope the Minister has called in and spoken to the British Ambassador because of the U-turn by the British aviation authorities in their attitude to the Cork-Luton, Shannon-Luton and Dublin-Manchester routes. I suggest that the Minister should expect that these access routes would be an integral part of the development of the package which he has quite rightly put together for 1987. We are fast approaching the peak time he has quite rightly put together for 1987. We are fast approaching the peak time of our tourist season. If these areas are to be accessible this package must be implemented immediately; otherwise, I would question the 400,000 extra tourists that the Minister has said is estimated to come to this country as a result of the implementation of the package. This must be quickly and seriously looked at.

The same sort of thing is occurring on the European air routes from Scandanavian countries, Germany and France. If we cannot get the access for these countries into Ireland to sufficient levels at realistic prices, the tourists the Minister identified in these countries will not come here because the access cost will be too high for them. I suggest that the Minister should press this matter and that the Taoiseach should raise it at the forthcoming meeting of the heads of State.

I would like to refer to the joint advertising deal between Dan-Air and Aer Lingus. As commendable as this deal is, I am led to believe that Dan-Air are one of the companies objecting on the British side to the activities of Ryanair into many airports. How can this be reconciled with the push for greater access from the UK into this country? It must leave a question mark on our major airline as to what activities are involved here. I want to be fair in this and I hope that the Minister will look at this area.

All of the extra services I have identified to the Minister are very essential to fulfil his desire of increasing the Irish tourist market. He identified also the extreme importance of the domestic market. One of the problems we have is the cost of activities that people engage in when they are on holidays. One of our major problems, as the Minister has already admitted by running a voucher scheme in England, is the cost of petrol. Accommodation is also quite expensive. These areas must be seriously looked at. These costs should not rise in real terms during the next few years if we want to attract foreign tourists at a realistic level and, at the same time, keep our domestic tourists at home.

It is also vitally important that we look at the whole area of where we are going in the tourist industry. It is time to face up to the fact that we do not have a sunny climate and that we should not try to sell this country on a six weeks sunshine basis. We should accept that there are many opportunities for expanding the length of our tourist season by looking seriously at the option of a product based tourist market in this country. This is the route I hope the Minister will look at. I await with interest the report of Price Waterhouse and we can all look forward to a very serious increase in tourists which will only come about if the appropriate market structures and attitudes are in operation. While a lot of the Minister's objectives are ideal and commendable, the hard realities must be brought to bear to back up those facts.

Deputy Liam Kavanagh rose.

The Chair regrets that it has not the opportunity for calling the former Minister. The Order of the House requires that——

It is regrettable that we were not given an opportunity on the Estimate, because it was taken without debate. Now we have another Bill being brought in with three quarters of an hour being given to it. It only means that the House is less relevant in dealing with an important subject like this. I will have to make my reply to these remarks outside of this House as it is the only opportunity I will get to do so.

I am now required, in accordance with the Order of the House to put the question: "That the Bill is hereby read a Second Time, that the Bill is hereby agreed to in Committee and is reported to the House without amendment, that Report Stage is hereby completed and that the Bill is hereby passed."

Question put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 70; Níl, 14.

  • Abbott, Henry.
  • Ahern, Dermot.
  • Ahern, Michael.
  • Andrews, David.
  • Aylward, Liam.
  • Brady, Gerard.
  • Brady, Vincent.
  • Brennan, Matthew.
  • Briscoe, Ben.
  • Browne, John.
  • Burke, Ray.
  • Calleary, Seán.
  • Collins, Gerard.
  • Conaghan, Hugh.
  • Connolly, Ger.
  • Coughlan, Mary T.
  • Cowen, Brian.
  • Daly, Brendan.
  • Davern, Noel.
  • Dempsey, Noel.
  • Dennehy, John.
  • de Valera, Síle.
  • Doherty, Seán.
  • Ellis, John.
  • Fahey, Frank.
  • Fahey, Jackie.
  • Fitzgerald, Liam.
  • Fitzpatrick, Dermott.
  • Flood, Chris.
  • Flynn, Pádraig.
  • Gallagher, Denis.
  • Gallagher, Pat the Cope.
  • Geoghegan-Quinn, Máire.
  • Hilliard, Colm Michael.
  • Hyland, Liam.
  • Kirk, Séamus.
  • Kitt, Michael P.
  • Kitt, Tom.
  • Lawlor, Liam.
  • Lenihan, Brian.
  • Leonard, Jimmy.
  • Lynch, Michael.
  • Lyons, Denis.
  • McCarthy, Seán.
  • McCreevy, Charlie.
  • MacSharry, Ray.
  • Mooney Mary.
  • Morley, P.J.
  • Moynihan, Donal.
  • Nolan, M.J.
  • Noonan, Michael J. (Limerick West).
  • O'Dea, William Gerard.
  • O'Donoghue, John.
  • O'Keeffe, Batt.
  • O'Keeffe, Ned.
  • O'Leary, John.
  • O'Rourke, Mary.
  • Power, Paddy.
  • Reynolds, Albert.
  • Roche, Dick.
  • Smith, Michael.
  • Stafford, John.
  • Treacy, Noel.
  • Tunney, Jim.
  • Wallace, Dan.
  • Walsh, Joe.
  • Walsh, Seán.
  • Wilson, John P.
  • Woods, Michael.
  • Wright, G.V.

Níl

  • Clohessy, Peadar.
  • Colley, Anne.
  • Cullen, Martin.
  • Gibbons, Martin Patrick.
  • Harney, Mary.
  • Keating, Michael.
  • Kennedy, Geraldine.
  • McCoy, John S.
  • McDowell, Michael.
  • Molloy, Robert.
  • O'Malley, Desmond J.
  • O'Malley, Pat.
  • Quill, Máirín.
  • Wyse, Pearse.
Tellers: Tá, Deputies V. Brady and Browne; Níl, Deputies Keating and Cullen.
Question declared carried.

This Bill is certified a Money Bill in accordance with Article 22 of the Constitution.

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