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JOINT COMMITTEE ON ENTERPRISE AND SMALL BUSINESS díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 5 Apr 2006

Scrutiny of EU Proposals.

The next item is a discussion on COM (2003) 644 — Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals, REACH. I welcome the members of the delegation, Ms Marian Byron, director of the Irish BioIndustry Association and assistant director of Pharmachemical Ireland, Mr. Tony Briscoe, head of IBEC's health and safety unit, Mr. Donal Buckley, head of IBEC's environment unit, Ms Kathryn Raleigh, director of the ICT association, and Ms Fiona Lyons from Intel. The delegation is present to discuss the REACH proposal. I also welcome the consultant on EU scrutiny to the committee, Mr. John Kissane.

Before asking Ms Byron to commence her presentation, I draw everyone's attention to the fact that while members of the committee have absolute privilege, this same privilege does not apply to those appearing before it. Members are also reminded of the long-standing parliamentary practice to the effect that members should not comment on or make charges against a person or official by name or in such a way as to make him or her identifiable. I welcome our guests. Ms Byron may proceed with her presentation. I apologise about the microphones. It was an act of God and nothing could have been done.

Ms Marian Byron

I thank the Chairman for this opportunity to make the business case in respect of the impact of the REACH regulation when it comes into force. I will go through my presentation as quickly as possible and cover the key points. With me is a representative of a specific industry, Intel, who I hope will relate in a practical sense the issues to which I am referring.

We accept the objectives of REACH. Previously, legislation in this area was unwieldy, with 40 items in total, and there was an absence of certain knowledge of chemicals and their effects on the environment and human health. It was necessary for the legislation to streamline the matter and provide the relevant information to allay public concerns re the environment and human health. Previously, national public authorities were responsible for carrying out risk assessments of these chemicals, but they found it unwieldy and time consuming. They believed the burden should be passed back to industry at a reduced responsibility. While any new material that entered the market after 1981 needed to be registered and the information placed on the market, there was a lack of information on approximately 30,000 existing substances, leaving gaps and concerns.

We agree on the need for information but the changes in respect of REACH are far-reaching. We are concerned that the regulation in its current format is unworkable. Previously, legislation related to the assessment of the hazard and the conveyance of hazard information as part of a label and data sheet. Once a person knew the impact or potential hazard a chemical would have, he or she would write it on the label and pass the information and the substance down the supply chain. The receiver would read the information and the data sheet and decide to use the substance in accordance with X, Y and Z. This process only took place when the substance was being placed on the market, but the new legislation requires this of anyone who manufactures, imports, distributes or uses the chemicals or articles that contain chemicals which are also covered by REACH. It requires more than the conveyancing of data because there is now a duty of care.

While the Irish chemical manufacturing industry will be affected, it will probably not be the most severely affected sector. Instead, downstream users will be the worst affected. If I am the manufacturer of a chemical and put it on the market, I must get all the information from the supply chain about how it is used, put it in a data sheet and safety report, relay that information and say that I am putting the chemical on the market and it can be used for X, Y and Z. I will give the information to 15 distributors who pass it to someone else who formulates it down the line. Trying to get this information back up the supply chain will be impossible.

I will give the committee a specific example of a man who spoke to me recently and to whom I was not able to give an answer. He supplies a material, copper sulphate, for animal feed, which has been excluded from the legislation. The man does not have a duty to do anything in that respect, but 5% of his material will be used in disinfectant foot baths. Is the man responsible for that use? I do not know. This matter relates to more than 1 tonne of a chemical placed on the market.

One of the slides in my submission depicts a person jumping out of a tiger's cage and into a pool of sharks. Essentially, this is where we have come from. It was bad, did not work and was quite dangerous but we are jumping into something that is as bad if not worse. The next slide, which I acquired from the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, lists industries that could be affected. Each sector imports or uses chemicals in its process or to produce its final product. In some shape or form, all these sectors will be affected by the legislation.

For those who are not well acquainted with REACH, including me, the legislation is 1,200 pages long, very scientific, highly technical and very confusing. Even the competent authority would agree. Within 18 months of the regulation entering into force in 2007, there is a requirement to put in place pre-registration, that is, to supply certain information on someone's materials and testing. Depending on tonnage and how dangerous the chemical is believed to be, if one is a manufacturer or importer, a highly technical dossier displaying what information exists must be put in place. If more than 10 tonnes of the material are on the market, there is a new requirement to put in place a safety assessment and report. The safety assessment report requires that every use and exposure of this material after entering the market must be assessed and that the chemical can only be abused in accordance with those uses. It makes sense and protects the environment but it does not work in practice. The competent authority will examine all of the data and assess the substance or the dossier to determine whether there is further information.

Our main concern relates to a process called authorisation. If a substance could be classed as having the potential to cause cancer or reproductive hazards or be mutagenic, the industry is required to use a substitute if available. A case cannot be made to use a chemical on the basis of its socioeconomic benefit, an issue that will be addressed through the Intel example. Doing this does not take account of risk. Everything is a hazard. The pen in my hand is a hazard. I could poke my eye out with it if I were not wearing glasses. A chemical could be a potential carcinogen — many carcinogens are used for cancer treatment — but if it is put in an article and not released, the article might be made stronger. By removing the chemical and putting in a substitute, that is not as good and one could be creating a greater risk. This is our main area of concern and the committee should examine it. The authorisation should be based on socioeconomic benefits, risk and whether it is adequately controlled. A chemical should not be removed on the basis of its hazards alone. Its risk assessment should be examined.

It is a problem for the manufacturer to handle registration. It can cost up to €500,000 to have a test package carried out and, in some cases, more than €1 million. Competent toxicologists, ecotoxicologists and so on will be needed to assess the data before the chemical is passed but there is a shortage of this competence within Europe. Many companies such as Intel may import materials from outside Europe, manufacture their own materials, be the downstream users and incorporate some of these chemicals into articles. Therefore, they are caught by each string of the legislation. If it goes ahead in its current form, it may be easier for companies to produce outside the EU.

The European Commission has a number of companies attempting a pilot exercise but the legislation itself should be piloted because there is confusion about whether people are affected. Food ingredient producers are not affected but those who use the ingredients are. The matter is complex and difficult to understand. When we believe we understand it, we realise that there are other factors. Costs in Europe are estimated to reach €1 billion. A Forfás study indicated that the cost to Ireland's main registrants would be approximately €180 million over ten years but the cost for downstream users could be much more — €300 million. This factor has been underestimated. The overall cost will include testing and administrative costs and the necessity of certain resources. Many small volume substances of low profit margins will be removed from the market as people will not be able to cover their costs. If a producer is on a tight, low profit margin, the product would not be worth the cost. This means the final product will be more expensive.

There is a considerable problem of confidentiality within the legislation. Previously, everything was confidential. I worked for the competent authority where we put everything into a vault. However, everything will now be shared in the public arena, which gives competitors an advantage. There will be a problem with the constancy of raw material supplies. They will move elsewhere, which will affect many Irish industries that are under competitive external threats. We work in a global economy, not just in Europe.

Other chemical agents legislation could deal with these matters. There is a requirement to carry out a risk assessment when anyone uses a chemical in a workplace. This legislation should pass information on the chemical to its user so that he or she can use it safely rather than make me, as the main producer, responsible for everything that occurs down the line. Who will enforce compliance? The resources needed to address this are phenomenal. There is also a reluctance to comply with the requirement to share information with other registrants. It will not reduce costs, as has been suggested. Administrative costs of sharing data have been shown to outweigh the savings made on testing.

Another main concern is the amount of information one must collate in drawing up a safety report to show the risk to human health. If my organisation is having difficulty finding the competence for this, how will small manufacturers manage? I will address any specific matters through questions from committee members. IBEC information seminars have identified the key concerns for Irish industry. These include the matter of who will provide the expertise. The legislation consists of 1,200 pages and I do not understand it. Companies want to know if the legislation applies to them. How will safety reports be produced? Where will companies seek this information? How will this information be communicated up and down the supply chain? If I sell a product I usually deal with a sales director who has no technical competence. One company suggested engaging the services of a teacher with a science background, but this is not adequate. The health and safety at work legislation requires a person with competence. Therefore the person must have competence in legislation and scientific matters. We do not know where we will find these people.

Downstream users do not believe chemical legislation will affect anyone but chemical manufacturers. We have tried to inform these people but they do not see how the legislation is relevant to them. They are unaware of the information they must pass up the supply chain to ensure the safety assessment can be completed. Where do the roles of REACH, chemical agents and the Environmental Protection Agency's integrated pollution control converge? There is total confusion on this point.

What will be removed from the market in respect of authorisation? I received a query on this and consulted the competent authority which will revert to me. The query concerned a plastics manufacturer who cannot produce any more polymers without adding a new material. Polymer additives are potentially toxic but once added to the polymer they do not pose a problem. Polymers are outside the scope of registration requirements but if the manufacturer adds a potentially toxic material to the polymer, does the plastics manufacturer become a chemical manufacturer who is therefore subject to registration? Neither I nor the competent authority could answer the question and the manufacturer has no idea. The legislation will come into effect in 2007. We have one and a half years to prepare but we do not know how to do so and we cannot estimate the cost.

We would appreciate if this committee could approach the EU to request that this legislation be made workable. We do not know if sufficient resources are available to enforce this. If we cannot adjust REACH to make it workable, it is a fast-moving train coming down the track. If we cannot stop the train, can someone provide us with resources to buy a ticket for the train when it arrives? Ms Fiona Lyons of Intel can give a practical example of the problems REACH poses.

Has Ms Byron made a submission to the small business forum?

Ms Byron

No.

Why not? The Forfás data indicates that, with the exception of the information and communications technology sector, the Irish chemical industry has focused on medium-sized enterprises with 50 to 500 employees. Has Ms Byron considered raising this matter with the small business forum?

Ms Byron

The Small Firms Association will address this specific issue. The Forfás study refers to the small and medium enterprise chemical sector. The SME downstream users will be represented by the Small Firms Association.

Will this be raised at the small business forum?

Ms Byron

Yes.

I welcome Ms Lyons and invite her to make a submission to the committee.

Ms Fiona Lyons

In principle Intel supports this regulation and would like to see any gaps in the system closed. Intel is a downstream user of chemicals and is concerned about how it will prepare for the REACH regulations. Intel uses chemicals in small quantities, many of which are very specialised and may not be used elsewhere in the market. Intel could potentially become an importer of chemicals under these regulations. As it mixes some chemicals before use, Intel could also be classified as a formulator. It is difficult for us to see where our responsibilities end.

We believe the legislation should be workable so that we can comply with it. We also wish to have uncertainty removed because we need to know if certain chemicals we use will no longer be available after the regulations come into effect. Although Intel is a large company, registration will present a large burden of work. It is not clear how many of the chemicals we use must be registered because we do not know to what other companies our suppliers are selling. Registration requires us to detail how we use each chemical so that our suppliers can include this in the chemical assessment. The amount of paperwork in this process is considerable and we would like the regulations to be practical in this regard.

We suggest that, in respect of authorisation, risk should be considered as well as hazard. Arsenic is needed to produce semi-conductors because silicon alone is not a semi-conductor. Molecules of arsenic must be implanted to change the behaviour of the substance so that it becomes a transistor. We would no longer be able to manufacture semiconductors if we could not use arsenic. We use it in small quantities in a highly controlled environment. REACH should take into account the risk of exposure to humans and the environment rather than focusing solely on the hazardous substance.

The Department has passed on information to us and I ask Mr. John Kissane, consultant to the committee, to present this to us.

Mr. John Kissane

This concerns a change proposed in the authorisation process. If a chemical is crucial to the manufacturing process, there are means whereby an industry could be authorised to use certain chemicals if adequate controls are in place and there is little or no danger to health or the environment and it is guaranteed that systems are in place to control this. This can be allowed if an overriding socioeconomic case can be made to justify the use of the chemical. This change was agreed at Council in December.

Is Ms Lyons satisfied with that?

Ms Lyons

Article 57(b) states that in certain circumstances chemicals may be completely phased out. How can one state whether a substitute is available? Must one allow for a reduction in the standard of performance of the product? A substitute may be available but it will not allow the microprocessor to work as fast as the original.

Ms Byron

At the same time as this regulation, the global harmonised system of labelling will come into effect. The previous labelling system will be discarded. For example, a sign with a skull and crossbones on an orange background denoted a toxic substance but all labelling, symbols and classification of safety and risk will change. Any company labelling or packaging chemicals must now re-label and re-assess that. This compounds the impact of REACH and I wanted to bring that to the attention of the committee.

We must attend the Order of Business at 10.30 a.m. so I will call on front bench members.

I must leave the meeting soon. This is a perfect example of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. The Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment should appear before the committee to discuss this issue which seems to be much more important that I previously thought. Will the Health and Safety Authority be the relevant Irish authority to adjudicate on and deal with regulations regarding these matters?

Ms Byron

Yes, it will be the national competent authority.

A considerable amount of time, resources and personnel will be tied up in inspections.

Ms Byron

One hopes.

One issue I find coming across forcibly is a lack of information available to the people who will be involved in this process. We have poor information systems in place to find out how it will be implemented. I propose that the Department and the Health and Safety Authority appear before the committee to discuss the implementation phase of the REACH regulation.

Mr. Kissane had just recommended that before Deputy Hogan addressed the meeting.

He is a good Kerryman. Great minds think alike.

If the people expected to implement the directive to safeguard us do not know what it is about, we have a serious problem. Regarding what was stated about responsibility and downstream users, was it suggested that after the manufacturer labels everything used in a process and sends it off, if that chemical is then used as an addition, in a different way or combined to make a different element further down the line, the manufacturer must also know about that?

Ms Byron

If a manufacturer supplies more than 10 tonnes of a chemical to 15 people who in turn pass it to another 15 people, when registering he or she must get the information back from all of those people on what it was used for. The purchasers are supposed to carry out an assessment to show it was used safely. The manufacturer must get that back, put it in a data sheet, append it and send it on. However, certain people may be reluctant to tell the manufacturer what the use was because a competitor may see it and so they may keep it quiet. If a person tells the manufacturer he or she does not want to state what the use was, the manufacturer becomes the person who is supposed to register with the competent authority.

The manufacturer is liable.

Ms Byron

However, in many cases people may pretend they use it for another purpose because they will not be able to get the registration costs. The manufacturers are concerned that if they sell a chemical in good faith and somebody then applies it to poison somebody, they are responsible and it is beginning to seem as though they are.

If I understand it correctly, it is like being a mother, who is always responsible.

Ms Byron

Until she gets into the old folks home.

We all agree the directive is a long time coming and is a good initiative. It is how we should progress. Surely the aim of the directive should be to ensure safety and transparency in manufacturing. If a manufacturer sells a particular chemical and the purchaser adds it to something else to produce something entirely different, which happens because that is how the system works, it should become the purchaser's responsibility to make the return without needing to refer back to the manufacturer. Once that is done, the consumer would feel protected. Is that what should happen? I am anxious to know what we should seek from the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment when it comes before the committee.

Ms Byron

Essentially, we state that in regulating the producer of a marketed chemical, sufficient information should be known on its hazards so that anyone who applies it should know how to use it safely.

That is fine and that equally protects the consumer and the producer.

Ms Byron

Yes. In fairness, this is an EU regulation. Ireland has been recognised in Europe as having taken the most pragmatic approach. We are way ahead of other member states in recognising the challenges. I have nothing but praise for the Department. It fought a good fight. This is a European issue.

In that case, when we are in private session we might discuss how best to bring the argument to Europe.

Clearly, if the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment went to bat and was not successful, perhaps we must take it a step further.

The route we can go down, with the permission of members, is to ask the Health and Safety Authority and officials from the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment to assist the committee on its further deliberations on what we have heard.

Ms Byron stated the Department went to bat, made the case clearly and was not as successful as one hoped it would be.

Should members of the committee make representations——

I am not certain. Perhaps the Department could attend a meeting and meet this delegation, members of the committee and others with a case to make. We should decide where we take this.

We will leave that to the sub-committee and the committee will take its recommendation.

The delegation referred to more than ten tonnes. How many industries does that involve? How does it relate back to this country?

Ms Byron

Ten tonnes refers to the amount placed on the market. If a registered manufacturer produces more than ten tonnes on the European market, it is up to him or her to get the information to make the safety assessment. The ten tonnes does not have to be given to one user; it can be given to a number of users. One tonne may be given to one person, five tonnes to another and three tonnes to someone else. The manufacturer must gather the information on all uses if more than ten tonnes is on the market. The safety report only kicks in if more than ten tonnes is the total amount placed on the market by a manufacturer.

Is that an anomaly? Could a manufacturer produce 8 tonnes of a much more dangerous substance——

Will Mr. Kissane make a point on the figure of ten tonnes?

Mr. Kissane

Only genuinely dangerous chemicals that meet certain criteria will be obliged to have a full data set on the ten tonnes. Existing data will be adequate in many cases.

Ms Byron

Yes.

Does that clarify the Deputy's point?

My point is that it all kicks in on the production of 10 tonnes. What will happen if a manufacturer produces five tonnes of a dangerous substance?

Ms Byron

If more than one tonne is on the market, the manufacturer must gather the data. The safety report goes further. On production of one tonne, the chemical must be tested in terms of human health and on receipt of the test package it must be stated that the chemical is a danger to health because it could poison or explode. On production of ten tonnes, the manufacturer must find out from every user down the chain the uses and exposure, not the hazard data.

Does Ms Byron agree with the suggestion that the changes proposed by the European Council in December 2005 will mean a 60% reduction in costs across the board for industry?

Ms Byron

It will incur a cost reduction and, while I do not know the actual percentage, we welcome the efforts being made on the issue of registration. At present, our main area of concern is the issue of authorisation, which may involve mandatory substitution. The authorisation period is five years but, if a substitute exists, it may have to be used regardless of whether a risk assessment is carried out. Questions arise in terms of how deal with that issue.

What should be done to raise awareness and assist the industry?

Ms Byron

We are trying our best in terms of organising information fora and Enterprise Ireland and the HSA are doing likewise. We can raise awareness on the forthcoming policies but problems will arise in terms of providing the technical support required to engage competence. We will facilitate that as best we can.

I thank the delegation for attending. Many of the committee's members are surprised that Mr. Tony Briscoe has been so quiet. As he has been before this committee on many occasions and has assisted us in our deliberations on the insurance industry, he should feel free to comment if he so wishes.

Mr. Tony Briscoe

I am very happy to be here but as my colleague, Ms Byron, is far more accomplished than me in this area, I will remain quiet.

Mr. Briscoe is most welcome nonetheless. We will revisit this issue once we arrange a suitable date for meeting with officials from the Health and Safety Authority and the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment and will advise the delegation of the date because committee members are most anxious to assist the industry. We are the conduit to the European Commission and the Government and will give serious consideration to the views expressed today. We will not rubber stamp any policy until we are satisfied that the interests of industry in Ireland are being served.

The joint committee adjourned at 10.15 a.m. until 11 a.m. on Wednesday, 12 April 2006.

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