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JOINT COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND TRADE díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 5 Jul 2011

Ireland’s Foreign Policy Priorities 2011: Discussion

The second item on the agenda is an important part of our workload: the address by the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy Eamon Gilmore. It is a great pleasure for me to welcome him and the Minister of State with responsibility for development and trade, Deputy Jan O'Sullivan, to our first real working meeting. I congratulate him on his official appointment. As a committee, we look forward to working with him in the coming years and welcome his commitment to engage with us on a regular basis during the lifetime of the committee. As I said at the previous meeting, this will be an important committee and we will welcome his participation and that of his colleague, the Minister of State, whenever they are available.

This is only the second meeting of the committee. Following the presentation, we will have a further discussion on our work programme for the remainder of this year, in which we will identify our priorities. To date, we have identified a number of possible priorities, including the following: trade promotion, particularly opportunities in Asia; Ireland-China relations; the announcement by the Minister of a second global Irish economic forum in Dublin Castle in October, which is important; Ireland's chairmanship of the OSCE in 2012 which was referred to earlier during the meeting of the select committee; the Middle East peace process, including the Arab Spring; scrutiny of EU and CFSP decisions; the Irish community abroad; and, of course, Irish Aid, which is an integral aspect of the work of the committee.

It is timely that the Minister is here to discuss the Department's key policy priorities for 2011. I now invite him to address the committee.

I am delighted to be here. I welcome the presence of Members of Seanad Éireann on the joint committee and look forward to exchanging views with them, as well as with the Members of Dáil Éireann who are present.

I am determined to lead my Department's efforts to deal with the very demanding agenda facing Ireland on the global stage. I look forward to working closely with the committee and would greatly welcome and appreciate members' co-operation in the Oireachtas in advancing our shared foreign policy objectives.

As Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, it is my responsibility and that of my Department to restore Ireland's international reputation. I do not think there can be any doubt that its reputation did suffer damage during the years of the recession. I agree with the point made by Deputy Sean Ó Fearghaíl at the previous meeting that it does not serve a great deal at this stage to engage in the attribution of blame. What we must concentrate on is restoring Ireland's reputation to ensure we can continue to export and trade. Some 80% of everything we produce is exported. It is important that Ireland's reputation is restored to encourage inward investment and the creation of jobs here. For this to happen the message must go out that Ireland is open for business. It is important that Ireland's reputation is restored to strengthen our hand in the negotiations in which Government must engage with the EU, the ECB and the IMF. This means we must build the political relationships at EU level and wider. Work remains to be done in this area. It is important for Ireland's reputation to be restored, as Brendan Gleeson said famously on College Green during the visit of President Obama, to enable Irish people to feel proud again. This is an important part of the work we do. The restoration of Ireland's reputation means pursuing an active foreign policy, working hard within the European Union, maintaining a world class development co-operation programme and pursuing every opportunity to promote Ireland's foreign trade. This is a wide agenda, not all of which is within our span of control. However, I will concentrate our resources on our priority areas of foreign policy, those areas where we have acknowledged strengths and where we are globally recognised as having something to contribute.

Naturally, it is important that we use our foreign policy reach to benefit and advance our national interests in an appropriate way as well. I will devote significant resources to ensure that the highest priority is given to the protection of our citizens throughout the globe. In the time available today, I will not be able to address all the policy issues facing me and my Department but I am keen to share some of the key priorities with the committee.

With regard to the Middle East peace process, I will maintain the strong commitment of successive Irish Governments and the Oireachtas to the earliest possible achievement of a sovereign state of Palestine, living in peace with Israel. Therefore, I will consider our response to any move by the Palestinians at the UN this autumn to seek recognition of a Palestinian state when I examine what is proposed. It is my belief that the Palestinian people deserve the dignity of their own state. However, I wish to see a Palestinian state in reality, not only one contained in a UN resolution. On this island we all know too well that a permanent and lasting comprehensive peace can only be achieved through dialogue and negotiation. When we take on the chair of the Organization for Security and Co-operation, OSCE, in Europe next January we will be in a position to enhance our contribution to ongoing promotion of comprehensive security throughout the OSCE region. Our experience of conflict resolution will be a particular asset in this work.

As the committee may be aware, we have decided to seek election to the UN Human Rights Council and I hope we can win. I believe that given the global recognition of Ireland's commitment to the promotion and protection of human rights, we continue to be uniquely placed to facilitate other nations in finding common ground and achieving consensus in this area.

Ireland has a deservedly high reputation in the area of development co-operation. The Government's aid programme is inspired by the values of the people. It has consistently been assessed independently as one of the best in the world. The programme is concentrated on some of the poorest countries in sub-Saharan Africa with a strong focus on the fight against poverty and hunger. On my recent visit to Tanzania I witnessed how Ireland has been working in partnership with governments and communities in Africa to end extreme poverty and hunger in the world. Working with the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, and African leaders on hunger and nutrition brought home to me how effective Ireland is on the world stage when we take a lead internationally on an issue of importance to us as a people and when we back it up with our actions and programmes on the ground.

Ireland's aid programme is highly effective. We are committed to it because it is the right thing to do and because it is in our interests as a small country in an interconnected world. The Government is committed to the UN target of spending of 0.7% of GNP on official development assistance. We will seek to do so by 2015, the date set by the EU. This is a challenge but it is one we can meet if we can restore growth to the Irish economy.

Recently my colleague, the Minister of State, Deputy Jan O'Sullivan, announced the launch of our review of the 2006 White Paper on Irish Aid. This will involve wide consultation and will ensure that we have a clear and renewed set of priorities for the aid programme in the years ahead. Our programme will remain strongly focused on the poorest countries in Africa and on the fight to end global hunger. In the coming months I intend to ensure that we strengthen our engagement with Africa. We will bring together all the strands in a more coherent approach to our development co-operation, to our political relations and to building economic co-operation as growth takes hold in the economies of sub-Saharan Africa. Today, the Government decided that Ireland will recognise the new state of south Sudan and that we will have the recognition in place for the declaration of independence by south Sudan on 9 July. I am determined to ensure that our embassy network and the resources of my Department are more sharply focused than ever on the challenging task of restoring Ireland's international economic reputation and bolstering the export-led growth that is crucial to our recovery. I have instructed our ambassadors throughout the globe to attach the highest priority to these tasks in their work. I will use my leadership role as chair of the export trade council to ensure the effective implementation of the joined-up approach to trade promotion the Government has adopted for the export sector, involving all relevant Departments and State agencies. I hope to chair the first meeting of the export trade council later this month.

Traditionally, Ireland's major trading partners and significant markets have been the UK, the US and Europe. My Department recognises the importance of these markets and we are working through the embassy network and in close co-operation with State agencies and other Departments to increase our trade levels with these countries and maintain our good relationships with them. In keeping with this approach, we are actively seeking ways to broaden Ireland's trade base and to develop better relationships with new and emerging markets. We have had successes in these markets in recent years and I will use the export trade council, the strategy for trade, tourism and investment, our joint economic commissions and all other available tools to ensure that we continue to grow our exports to these countries. Person to person contacts are essential for developing business in these markets. In recognition of this I intend to schedule several visits to priority markets, beginning with a visit to Japan and Korea in the autumn.

I am aware committee members and all Members of the Oireachtas share my concerns for the welfare of our citizens overseas especially those who were less prepared for the emigrant experience or who have fallen on hard times after emigration. My Department has allocated almost €13 million this year to the emigrant support programme which supports front line welfare services. I am confident that this support has a tangible and positive impact on Irish communities, especially on the lives of our most vulnerable citizens in Britain. I have already met representatives of community organizations in New York and I am planning to visit London next month to meet many of these organisations, to gain first-hand knowledge of the work they do and to gauge current issues of concern to those who work on the front line. Building strategic links between Ireland and the diaspora will be the aim of the second global Irish forum in October. I also attach a high priority to addressing the situation of the undocumented Irish in the United States in our engagements with the US Administration and Congress.

The restoration of Ireland's standing as a committed and influential member of the European Union is a vital element to our strategy of economic recovery. In this context, our Presidency of the EU Council in 2013 is an important opportunity to demonstrate our commitment to playing an active and constructive role in EU and related global affairs. A successful EU Presidency can strengthen our reputation as a credible and capable partner not only to the other member states, but to other global partners that interact with the EU during the term of our Presidency. The EU Presidency presents us with a unique opportunity to lead the EU in developing policies that matter to the lives of all our citizens and to uphold the values and freedoms on which the EU is founded.

The only direct contact most people have with my Department is in the context of obtaining a passport or when they or a family member need our assistance overseas. I acknowledged in my earlier contribution that there is ongoing unhappiness with the delays citizens experience during the summer months in obtaining a passport. Any delay is unacceptable but, for the record, I point out that the current delay is of up to five working days in processing applications submitted through the recommended passport service. My Department has allocated exceptional resources to meet the unprecedented level of demand this year. I am confident this turnaround time will be reduced during the coming weeks and will return to normal levels in the short term.

On the consular front, I am pleased that my Department has continued to develop its capacity to assist our citizens in crisis situations overseas. This year has unfortunately been particularly busy for my Department which has had to respond to political crises in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Bahrain as well as earthquakes in New Zealand and Japan. I am very pleased by the positive feedback I get from the public in recognition of these efforts.

Given our time constraints today this has necessarily been a rather brief synopsis of my priorities as Minister and of the major international issues facing the country. I will be very happy to discuss them further with the committee today and also in more depth as specific matters arise during my term in office.

I thank the Tánaiste. I am delighted to hear his foreign policy priorities, key focus areas and main concerns. I know he is under time constraints and some of the select committee members have already spoken, therefore I ask members to be as brief as possible in their questions. The Tánaiste has another important engagement.

I will be very brief. I thank the Tánaiste for his presentation. We find ourselves in agreement with the vast majority of points he made and I will not reiterate my earlier points.

In the case of the undocumented Irish in the US, maybe he would give us a sense of the level of engagement he has had in pursuit of a resolution to that problem and whether he feels there is any possibility of the matter being resolved in advance of the next US presidential election. It would appear that President Obama is very committed to the DREAM Act but I do not imagine it will have a resolution for the documented Irish. Has the Department done an evaluation of what the Act proposes?

On the question of the US economic envoy to the North, the envoys that have served to date have been particularly useful to us in encouraging investment and supporting the peace process in terms of the Ireland fund. Has there been any discussion with the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, in respect of the appointment of an alternative envoy to Declan Kelly who has either completed or is about to complete his term of office?

I welcome the Tánaiste. I will not repeat points but will ask specific questions. In recent days serious concern has been expressed from Irish participants on board the MV Saoirse in the aid mission to Gaza. They claimed their mission was prevented from being completed by what they alleged to be an act of sabotage. The propeller shaft was damaged in a similar manner to another vessel in the mission. What investigations has the Department made with the Turkish authorities? Have we been in contact with the state which has been accused of having responsibility for the alleged offence, namely, the State of Israel?

On Bahrain, I submitted a written parliamentary question but will ask the same question now. The ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Niall Holohan, recently attended an event in Bahrain for the RCSI. Does the Tánaiste think that is appropriate in the context of the arrest and detention of doctors who are trained by the RCSI, are fellows of it and served internships in hospitals in Ireland? It has caused grave concern among leading human rights organisations internationally. If he believes it was inappropriate what disciplinary action has he taken?

The Tánaiste is under pressure for time. I will take the three Senators who have indicated. If they are brief they will have an opportunity to speak.

Ba mhaith liom comhgairdeas a ghabháil leis an Aire, i dtosach báire. I had experience of the Tánaiste in his past incarnation in the 1990s. He was highly regarded in his previous position and I have no doubt he will bring the same characteristics to this job.

Would he agree that the restoration of Ireland's international reputation will hinge entirely on the correction of our banking and fiscal crisis and that is what has damaged it? I note he said it was imperative for our exports but they have held up remarkably well. The fall that we had was much less than that in Germany during the difficult past number of years. It is a little unfair to imply that to restore Ireland's reputation will require an active foreign policy, working hard within the EU and maintaining a world class development co-operation programme. Perhaps the Tánaiste did not intend that. He would have to admit that one of those areas has continued throughout the financial difficulties we have had.

On the Palestinian state, the resolution before the UN is deserving of support. There seems to be an implication in the Tánaiste's statement that Ireland would not support it, which would be regrettable. An argument has been made that there is a parallel with foundation of this State where the Proclamation and establishment of the provisional Government created the conditions which generated the international momentum to achieve independence. It is an interesting point.

I welcome the fact that the Tánaiste will seek election to the UN Human Rights Council. I could never fathom how a body that would purport to be in favour of human rights would adopt the line it did on the pro-life issue and be in favour of abortion. It is entirely incompatible and I welcome Ireland's involvement with that. I hope the values that we stand for here will be brought to bear significantly in the decision-making of the committee.

I welcome the Tánaiste. I would like to raise an issue he mentioned, namely, Ireland's reputation internationally and the work he is doing within Europe to improve it. Has he had a chance to expand on what it has meant for him in recent months since he took up office?

On overseas aid, it is important that we commit to a figure of 0.7% of GNP even in these difficult economic times. I am conscious of the reference to some African countries spending money on armaments while at the same time receiving aid from Ireland and other countries. Could the Tánaiste outline the kind of procedures in place to ensure that money which is allocated is spent correctly? Contributing to foreign aid can be contentious in some quarters and it is important that we have structures in place to ensure the moneys allocated are spent properly, particularly on food. Hillary Clinton and the Tánaiste referred to hunger and nutrition.

Go raibh maith agat agus mo comhghairdeas don Tánaiste agus an tAire Stáit, Deputy O'Sullivan. I thank the Chairman for the opportunity to say a few words.

How does the Tánaiste see the balance between human rights and financial matters? I welcome that his predecessor, Dick Spring, established a human rights section in the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. It was very forward looking. A balance must be struck which is always very difficult. It is highlighted by the comments of Deputy Mac Lochlainn on the situation in Bahrain. We cannot interfere in the internal affairs of a third level institution but we can certainly comment on human rights issues which are extremely sad and poignant. Senator Crown spoke about the issue in the Seanad. I also support what Senator Walsh said about one of the issues he raised, that is, the Palestinian state. I hope Ireland will see its way to supporting the resolution at the United Nations, especially in the light of the unusual comments by a spokesman for the Israeli authorities on the radio the other day. The spokesman alleged that the situation in Palestine was so good that the Palestinian people were much better off then the people of Ireland, who are in a significantly worse financial situation. I thought that was surprising and I certainly hope it is not true.

I know you are under pressure, Tánaiste, and I ask you to answer questions before you leave. I also invite the Minister of State, Deputy Jan O'Sullivan, to remain and perhaps answer issues that members raise.

If I leave anything out I hope members will bring it to my attention. I tried to take as comprehensive a note as I could.

Deputy Ó Fearghaíl asked what I have done for undocumented Irish people in the United States. I met the Irish Lobby for Immigrant Reform and other emigrant groups in New York when I was there for St. Patrick's Day. I discussed the problem of the undocumented Irish with the Secretary of State, Mrs. Hillary Clinton, when I met her during the St. Patrick's Day events. During our bilateral meeting with President Obama during his visit to Ireland, the Taoiseach and I discussed the difficulties that face the undocumented Irish and we expressed our hope that a way could be found in the United States to deal with the problem of immigration reform. Within the United States there is the question of comprehensive reform and many issues arise in relation to that. In pursuit of that, I had two further meetings that were of significance. One was with a delegation from the House of Representatives that visited here about two months ago. The second was with a group of US senators, led by Senator Patrick Leahy, who were here a couple of weeks ago. Of course, our embassy in Washington has maintained a close dialogue with members of the House and the Senate.

I understand a Bill is being progressed and will come before the House of Representatives later this year. It includes a provision that would be of assistance to the undocumented Irish. One of the issues we have been seeking to advance is the provision of an E3 visa, which would be similar to that available to people from Australia. People might be able to get a visa for a short period, depending on their levels of education, skill and so on. This matter is very high on the Government's agenda.

I have informed the Secretary of State of our appreciation of the work done by Mr. Declan Kelly as her economic envoy and I expressed to her our appreciation of that appointment. The issue of appointing another envoy, economic or otherwise, is a matter for the United States Administration, and particularly for the Secretary of State.

Deputy Pádraig Mac Lochlainn raised the issue of the flotilla to the Middle East and the damage that occurred to the MV Saoirse in Turkey. I have had two discussions with the Israeli ambassador, first about the issue of the flotilla itself. At the time of that discussion, notwithstanding the travel advice provided by my Department, it was clear that some Irish citizens would participate in the flotilla. I expressed my concern for their well-being and made it clear to the ambassador that we did not want to see a repetition of what happened last year and that people who were engaging in a peaceful form of political activity should be responded to accordingly. As it happens, I had a second meeting with the Israeli ambassador and also with a political representative of the Israeli foreign ministry on the morning the reports appeared of the damage to the MV Saoirse. Again, I underlined our concern that if the damage was found to have been sabotage, we would take a serious view of it. The matter is being investigated by the Turkish authorities and our embassy in Turkey is in contact with the Turkish police about the matter. They have not established that there was sabotage but we are maintaining contact with the Turkish police.

We have issued a very strong statement about the repression occurring in Bahrain. At the most recent European Council meeting a very strong statement was included in the conclusions of the Council at the request of the Taoiseach on behalf of Ireland. We have a very clear position on what is happening in Bahrain. The Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, RCSI, has a medical school in Bahrain. The college invited Mr. Niall Holohan, who is the ambassador designate to Bahrain, to a graduation ceremony. His credentials had not been presented and that is why it was reported that he was attending in a private capacity. He was there at the invitation of the RCSI. I have received a request from the president of RCSI to meet him, which I intend to do soon.

Senator Walsh referred to reputational issues. I will not lay blame. It is not productive to engage in a political blame game about reputation or whether a level of engagement was effective or not. Our reputation suffered damage during the period of the recession. It is for others to decide why or how that happened. The important thing is that we work to restore it.

Would the Tánaiste accept that it did not affect our exports?

As it turned out, it did not. Our exports are growing, which is one of the great strengths of the Irish economy. I am not sure we had been communicating that message as loudly as it needed to be communicated. The Government has been concentrating on communicating the message that there are huge strengths in the Irish economy. Our exports are strong, there is significant foreign direct investment, there are many strengths in the Irish economy and we are not in the same situation as some of the other countries that have been in difficulty. The things being written about Ireland, especially in the international financial press, and the impact they might have had on people who were thinking of doing business in Ireland or investing here, made it clear that we would have to do some push-back on that. We have done that quite successfully.

The commentary of recent weeks about the crisis in the euro area is increasingly pointing to the fact that Ireland, while we may have problems, is in a different situation from some of the other countries. We have succeeded very significantly at that level.

Senator Clune asked what work we have done to restore our reputation. We have systematically set about working bilaterally with other governments and foreign ministers. I have engaged in a series of bilateral meetings with foreign ministers. I will go to Berlin on Friday to meet the German Foreign Minister, Mr. Guido Westerwelle. The Minister for Finance has engaged in significant meetings. The Minister of State with responsibility for European affairs, Deputy Creighton, has been engaged with the Taoiseach. Right across the Government there has been a comprehensive and systematic engagement at both a bilateral level and at European Council meetings. This has all been with a view to ensuring that Ireland has friends and support around the table. We have moved things forward. For example, at the meeting of the European Council on 11 March, when the issue of the interest rate first arose, it is fair to say that there was not a huge level of sympathy for Ireland's predicament at that stage but this has changed very dramatically since. There is now a much better understanding, both of Ireland and of our position regarding the corporation tax rate and how we are working through the programme. We are making progress but there is still quite a lot more to do.

Ireland is seeking election to the Human Rights Council. We are in a difficult group, as they say in football parlance. We are in a five-way contest with the United States, Germany, Sweden and Greece. It is a competitive battle. On Irish Aid, Senator Clune raised the issue of how we ensure our money is well spent. There are a number of ways this is ensured. An independent review is carried out of our spending and it is conducted for the Department. A number of international bodies, including the OECD, review spending on aid programmes. As it turns out, the Irish programme is up at the top in terms of its effectiveness. A research body in one of the United States universities undertook a review of aid programmes and it ranked Ireland as fifth most effective in the world. As part of our aid programme, we put a significant emphasis on good governance and ensure through our partnerships with countries that they in turn have in place systems which ensure there is accountability for the money. I was in Tanzania recently and I met with Government representatives there. There is very strong parliamentary supervision of aid spending, including a very robust public accounts committee. Part of the aid programme is to ensure accountability for expenditure within the programme countries themselves.

Senator Norris asked about human rights and finance. I gave the annual lecture to the Irish Human Rights Commission recently at which I set out a comprehensive statement of our position on human rights and on the relationship between human rights and economic and governance issues.

I asked about the resolution.

There is no resolution yet but it is expected that a resolution on recognition of a Palestinian state may be presented for the autumn. We will have to wait to see where the resolution will be presented as it may be presented either to the General Assembly or to the Security Council. The case of Ireland's vote only arises if it is presented to the General Assembly. We will have to take a decision when we see what resolution is presented and to which forum it is presented.

Will the Minister undertake to come back to this committee prior to any such vote so that we could debate it beforehand?

I do not have any difficulty in doing so but I am conscious of the fact that the General Assembly is meeting on 19 to 24 September.

We will continue to monitor the situation. I thank the Tánaiste for being so generous with his time. I thank also the Minister of State. This has been a very important and productive exchange of views. It has been very informative for committee members with regard to the preparation of the committee's work programme. We hope to welcome the Minister on his return to the committee in the near future as there is lots more to be said. It is clear that the trade portfolio will be a critical element in Ireland's foreign policy. As Chairman of the committee it is my intention that this will be a key priority for the work of the committee over the next few years. I thank the Tánaiste and the Minister of State. I also welcome and thank Mr. Colm Ó Floinn, head of the trade promotion division of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. He is an important man and we will be talking to him on many occasions in the future. I also welcome and thank Mr. David Donoghue, political director, Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

The joint committee went into private session at 4.25 p.m. and adjourned at 4.50 p.m. sine die.
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