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JOINT COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND TRADE díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 5 Oct 2011

UN General Assembly and Global Irish Economic Forum: Discussion with Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade

The second item on our agenda is the UN General Assembly ministerial week and the Global Irish Economic Forum. The Tánaiste is in attendance and it is a great pleasure to welcome him once again to our meeting. I know that he was in my constituency this morning looking after my constituents and other business. He is accompanied by a number of officials from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. They are: Mr. David Cooney, secretary general; Mr. Pat Kelly, director, UN section, political division; and Mr. Joe Hackett, counsellor, Irish abroad unit. I welcome them and also members in the public Gallery.

We have two distinct items on today's agenda for discussion with the Tánaiste. First, the recent UN General Assembly ministerial week and the upcoming Global Irish Economic Forum. They are two important events and it is timely that we can discuss them. While they are two very different events, both are high level set pieces at which Ireland has an opportunity to outline and examine our place in the world, our priorities and our relations with other states and with the global Irish.

I know the Minister has a tight agenda. I now invite him to discuss the recent UN General Assembly ministerial week session, particularly the Palestinian application for full UN membership, as well as other key issues including the situation in Libya and the fight against under-nutrition and hunger. I know the Minister has had a number of other meetings, including one in New York, and has had a number of economic meetings as well. He had a busy schedule during his week in New York. I also ask the Minister to make some remarks on the Global Irish Economic Forum and his objectives and priorities for the forum this weekend, and to outline how the forum can contribute to creating a more strategic relationship between Ireland and its global community.

It is a great pleasure, as always, to be with the committee. As the Chairman said, I was in his home patch last night and this morning to address the biennial conference of SIPTU. The conference was successful and had a large attendance, which I am sure will please the Chairman no end in view of its contribution to the local economy. I certainly saw a lot of active contributing to the local economy while I was there.

I am delighted to have this opportunity to appear before the committee today to report on my recent attendance at the UN General Assembly ministerial week and also to brief the committee on the forthcoming Global Irish Economic Forum. As ever, this year's UNGA week was an extremely busy one, with several high-level meetings taking place during the course of the week. I was particularly honoured to attend the high-level meeting on Libya on 20 September, which formally marked Libya's return to the international fold and made clear the international community's strong support for the National Transitional Council as the interim governing authority in Libya. I was also privileged to address, alongside the UN Secretary General, Ban Ki-moon, and the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, the high-level meeting on nutrition and food security on 21 September. This meeting provided a further demonstration of the strong and effective co-operation between Ireland, the US and the UN in taking forward the Scaling Up Nutrition initiative launched at the UN a year ago. I also participated in a number of other high-level events, including on the 2001 Durban Declaration and the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. I also attended a mini-summit on the humanitarian crisis in the Horn of Africa on 24 September, where I announced a further €1 million in support for victims of the Horn of Africa famine, bringing the Government's total contribution so far this year to €10 million.

The one issue, of course, which overshadowed discussions in New York was the Middle East peace process and the decision of President Abbas, initially signalled on 16 September, to submit a formal application for Palestinian membership of the UN to the Security Council. I discussed the Palestinian issue at some length in my address to the General Assembly on 26 September and I will therefore not repeat all I said on that occasion. However, I will reiterate that I regard it as entirely legitimate for the Palestinians to have taken their case to the United Nations, given the complete impasse we have witnessed in the peace process in recent months, and that they are as much entitled to membership of the UN as any other state. This is a view I put forward clearly in discussions with EU colleagues during the week and also in a meeting with the Russian Foreign Minister, Mr. Lavrov, and with the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, at the EU-US ministerial meeting.

We know from experience that UN resolutions will not of themselves deliver Palestinian statehood and that what is urgently required is a return to substantive talks which address all the core issues and have a clear timeframe for conclusion. I have made clear that I welcome the Quartet statement issued on 23 September as providing such a framework for the earliest possible resumption of direct talks. I very much hope the international community can now convince the parties to return to the negotiating table on the basis of the Quartet statement. For this to happen, it is all the more urgent for all sides to desist from any kind of provocative action. In this regard, I share the widespread dismay at last week's announcement of the construction of 1,000 new dwellings in the east Jerusalem settlement of Gilo, and condemn this illegal action of the Israeli authorities. The UN Security Council has now started consideration of the Palestinian application for statehood, though it is likely to be at least a number of weeks before any decision is taken. In the meantime, all concerned with peace and justice in the Middle East are obliged to do all possible to encourage a resumption of direct talks.

The events of the Arab spring also hung heavily over the UNGA week, given the momentous changes we have witnessed in north Africa and other parts of the Arab world over the past 12 months. Again, this is an issue I dealt with at some length in my UNGA address, and I will not go into detail here other than to repeat my belief that we need to be positive, supportive and consistent in our response to these historic changes arising from the basic demands of ordinary people for reform, freedom and equality. This applies also to Bahrain. I have stated publicly my great concern at the harsh sentences handed down last week to 20 medical professionals by a military court.

As is traditional, I availed of my visit to the UN to meet a large number of my counterparts, including the foreign ministers of Andorra, Egypt, Ethiopia, Georgia, Laos, the Palestinian Authority, Russia and Serbia, as well as the Secretary General of the Arab League. I also had an extremely useful meeting with the Secretary General, Mr. Ban, on 26 September at which, among other issues, we discussed sustainable development, the enhancement of women's rights, the Palestinian application to the UN and the Arab spring. The Secretary General expressed his appreciation for Ireland's active engagement in the UN, while I complimented the Secretary General on his inspiring address at the start of the general debate, which set out a clear agenda for member states to pursue in the coming months.

Economic promotional work also formed an important part of my programme in New York, where I met Irish and American business representatives and conducted interviews with a wide range of important US media, including The Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg News and Fox News. Another important aspect of my visit was meeting local Irish community representatives in New York and presenting the first certificate of Irish heritage to the family of the late Joseph Hunter, a member of the New York Fire Department who died in the attacks of 11 September 2001.

I will now turn to the second Global Irish Economic Forum, which takes place this weekend in Dublin Castle. The forum has three primary objectives. First, it is designed to maintain and further develop structured engagement between the Government and leading figures among our diaspora and our friends abroad. Second, it will facilitate the Government's ongoing work of rebuilding Ireland's international reputation by enabling us to outline our economic objectives and achievements and seek the assistance of participants in projecting positive messages abroad. Finally, attendees will be given the task of offering a small number of specific and action-oriented recommendations on the themes under consideration.

The response to the Taoiseach's invitation has been very encouraging. Some 270 members of the global Irish network will attend at Dublin Castle. They will be joined by some prominent Irish business and cultural leaders, as well as Ministers, Ministers of State, Secretaries General, State agency CEOs and leaders of the Opposition. President Clinton will address the forum on Saturday. I am delighted that the Chairman of this committee will be joining us, as will his committee colleagues, Deputies Mac Lochlainn and Ó Fearghaíl, the foreign affairs spokespersons for their respective parties. I appreciate that there is great interest among many others in attending the forum but, unfortunately, the capacity in Dublin Castle will not facilitate this. A full list of participants and a copy of the programme are available on the forum's website, www.globalirishforum.ie. The programme consists of a mixture of plenary sessions, panel discussions and working groups. It is very encouraging that all our moderators, panellists and working group facilitators are providing their services on a pro bono basis. In response to requests from participants at the 2009 forum who indicated that working groups provide the best opportunity for detailed discussion, we have devoted a significant amount of time to small break-out working groups. We will host 15 working groups and each will focus on a topic of relevance to the programme for Government and will involve the participation of relevant Ministers. As I stated earlier, these groups will be tasked with bringing forward two to three specific and action-oriented recommendations.

There is a good news story to tell in terms of the follow up to the 2009 forum. The detailed update in respect of each of the 59 specific and medium-term objectives identified at the first forum demonstrates the significant number of proposals that have been substantively progressed. Among the specific initiatives that emerged from, or were discussed at, the 2009 Farmleigh forum were the following: the establishment of the global Irish network of more than 300 influential individuals drawn from 37 countries who have played a very helpful role in supporting State agencies and Irish companies abroad; the establishment of network-led initiatives such as the Farmleigh fellowship programme in Singapore which places 25 Irish post-graduates in companies in Asia and the Irish technology leadership group in Silicon Valley; a new focus on the promotion of Irish culture abroad, including the imagine Ireland campaign in the US and the appointment of Gabriel Byrne as cultural ambassador; Tourism Ireland's targeted diaspora campaigns and the establishment of the certificate of Irish heritage; the establishment of a diaspora focussed website, www.worldirish.com, by John McColgan; and increased Government support for diaspora business networks and an enhanced focus on working with young members of the diaspora to establish new networks for Irish graduates and professionals abroad.

A number of specific initiatives will be launched or showcased at the forum, including in the areas of recognition and advocacy. The Government also wishes to see a clear focus on engaging the young diaspora. In return for tasking forum participants to develop specific value added ideas from each of the forum's 15 working groups, I am conscious that we need to have a robust and inclusive follow up process to the forum. Therefore, I propose that participants be given a direct role in ensuring the ideas generated at the forum are given detailed consideration and implemented. Specifically, an advisory and implementation group for the global Irish network will be established. This will be co-chaired by the Taoiseach and myself and will include officials from the key Government Departments and a global Irish network member from each of the main geographic areas.

The Government has a very clear idea of where we want Ireland to go. We are asking the participants to help us identify the best path to take and to be our advocates and supporters. Their response to date has been extraordinarily generous, unselfish and a vital ally to our route back.

I thank the Tánaiste for his very comprehensive report. I know the presentation of the first certificate of Irish heritage to the family of the late Joseph Hunter was a highlight for the Minister and his officials during their visit to New York. The ceremony was also attended by members of the New York Fire Department. It was an important meeting. The Tánaiste's time is very tight and I ask members to keep their contributions brief. The Tánaiste will want to reply to everyone and I ask members if at all possible to keep their contributions to asking questions.

I thank the Tánaiste for his presentation. I see from reports of his attendance at the UN General Assembly it was a very busy and productive week and I commend the Tánaiste on the range of endeavours in which he engaged and the range of ambassadors and Ministers with whom he engaged on important global matters.

As the Tánaiste is pushed for time I will focus my questions on the Palestinian issue. I welcome the Tánaiste's speech. It was in keeping with the long and honourable tradition in Ireland of standing by the Palestinian people. Even though we are a State of 4.5 million people, our footprint throughout the world is huge and our influence is way beyond the size of our population, in particular with regard to defending human rights not least because of the role of people such as our former President, Mary Robinson.

To cut to the chase, it is clear the Security Council will not pass the resolution if it ever comes before it because the United States will veto it. However, other possible paths exist. One of these is negotiations as the Quartet has outlined, but if Palestine, having been rejected because of a US veto, proceeds to the floor of the UN General Assembly seeking rights as an observer state - at present it has observer rights as a liberation movement - it would be a tremendous development. It could then participate in a range of organisations such as the International Civil Aviation Organisation, the Law of the Sea treaty and the International Criminal Court.

These are important because it could defend the air space over Palestine and Gaza and challenge the actions of the Israeli state. The sea is pertinent to Gaza and it could challenge the actions of the Israeli state at the International Criminal Court. It would balance out the unacceptable reality and absolute outrage that UN resolutions are passed, and I commend the Tánaiste for condemning the ongoing settlements, but the Israeli state continues to build provocative illegal settlements and to tear down hundreds of Palestinian homes in the most profoundly provocative and humiliating way possible. I anticipate that Ireland, if it comes to it and the United States insists on its veto, will support the Palestinians and give them this massive step to statehood, dignity, freedom and independence in the eyes of the world.

In the Arab spring we saw the gradual emergence of democracy in Egypt and the grassroots success of the Arab people there. We also see what we hope will develop in Syria and other Arab states. This is an opportunity for the Israeli state and the United States to build real partnerships. If they can finally address the issue of the Middle East regarding Israel and Palestine with a two-state solution based on the 1967 borders it will be a tremendous gesture to these new, assertive, proud emerging Arab democracies, which are developing and which we all welcome.

This is a time of opportunity to build a real partnership with the Arab world, or we can remain in the failures of the past. I know the Tánaiste has committed to this and he plays a profound role in one of the constituent parts of the Quartet, namely, the European Union. I ask him, with his colleagues, to ensure that if the Palestinians take a leap of faith with the Quartet's proposal and do not push forward with their resolution at the UN Security Council, the targets will be met within a year and we can move towards equality and justice for the people of the Palestinian occupied territories.

I apologise for arriving late to the meeting. However, I have read the Tánaiste's speech and I thank him for the comprehensive report he made. I also compliment him on the efforts he has made. He has a very busy schedule, interacting with all of the key personnel in the world's eye and sometimes in the eye of the storm. I wish to mention in particular the meeting with US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, and the high-level meeting on nutrition and food security on 21 September. This is a very important issue at this time and one on which we have barely touched. Food security is an issue within Europe. Food is very important as one can go without many things but one cannot go without food, and I hope the Tánaiste shall comment further on this.

I compliment the Tánaiste for raising and dealing with issues in the Horn of Africa. These are the ongoing issues of war, famine and human rights abuses. The Minister has replied to various parliamentary questions on this particular issue over the past number of months. I would like him, if possible, to comment on how best the issue of famine can be addressed in the medium to long term so as to ensure food supplies can be brought to those who need them as a matter of urgency and to address the issues raised earlier in the year by the NGOs and aid organisations. Obviously, the Minister is bringing his influence in this regard to bear on his colleagues in the UN and EU.

I would also ask the Minister to comment on whether it has been possible to ensure the safety of people working in food distribution, the alleviation of famine and address the issue of human rights. I compliment the Minister on his comments on the Middle East process. Is he satisfied with the progress made in terms of the setting up of a structure, which many people believe is necessary, through which the protagonists in the area can address their issues on an ongoing basis as opposed to what has happened heretofore, namely, a peace process that raises in tempo and then disappears into the sand.

I believe the Global Irish Economic Forum is particularly pertinent at this time. It is a useful follow up to last year. It provides an opportunity for the Minister - I am sure he will avail of it - and the Irish diaspora and population at large to show to the world the degree to which we as a population can stand up and address the issues confronting us economically. I believe we are in a unique position to deliver a message that is positive at a time when so many messages in the marketplace are of a negative nature.

I welcome the Minister and congratulate him on his speech to the United Nations. It is Ireland's traditional stance but obviously there was pressure coming from many sides that we would follow a more toned down version. It shows that we can disagree with our friends. I read what the Minister had to say with regard to the United States. I spoke yesterday to the ambassador about an American general's remark that the situation in the West Bank is costing American lives in Iraq and Afghanistan. The problem needs to be sorted out. It is in America's interests to do so.

As we in Ireland are aware, America is key to a peace process. It was key here and will be key in the Holy Land. However, I am afraid political considerations will not at this time allow for that. The Minister referred in his speech to Martin Luther King and the fierce urgency of "Now". What, if anything, can be done now and what role can Ireland play at this time? It will be hard for the EU to get a common approach on this. If it comes to a common approach that is far from our traditional stance we should take John F. Kennedy's line: "the humblest nation of all the world, when clad in the armor of a righteous cause, is stronger than all the hosts of Error." The EU's tradition of compromising to the lowest common denominator is not something we should agree to.

I thank the Minister for his briefing on the Global Irish Economic Forum and for his comments on the certificate of Irish heritage. The presentation of the first certificate of Irish heritage was to Bridget Hunter, mother of Joseph Hunter who, along with some of his squad members of the 288th squad of the New York fire department, lost his life in the attacks on 11 September 2001. Mr. Hunter was a personification of the many Irish who have gone abroad and have served their adoptive countries well. In the case of Joseph Hunter, he gave all his tomorrows so that others could have theirs. Ambassador Collins who wrote his review on Ireland-US relations in March 2009 deserves praise for coming up with the idea of the certificate of ancestry. I recall reading his review and saying to Ray Bass that it was a good idea. Following numerous meetings with the Irish abroad unit and having put the proposal before the Minister, a decision to take it up was announced in Farmleigh in 2009. I am delighted a Kerry company got the licence. I was delighted to be there last Friday when it went live.

This is not about having a piece of paper to put on one's wall. The Irish abroad unit has had meetings with the IDA and Tourism Ireland about getting access to the large database we hope this certificate will create and about the potential for communicating through that database. Once people indicate they would like to receive communications a message could be sent via e-magazine from the Minister, President and Irish ambassador to the given country outlining issues of interest in Ireland, be it education, tourism, sport, philanthropy, culture and so on. The Minister referred to making youth the centre of the global forum and to the potential for scholarships in Irish universities for certificate of Irish heritage holders who are under 18 years of age.

Ambassador Collins raised an interesting point, which I would like the Minister to consider. In his document of 2009, he spoke about preferential access for Irish certificate holders at Irish airports. There is potential in that proposal. The Indians have a dedicated line in Bombay Airport for persons who are Indian but live overseas. I would like the Minister to consider the potential of that proposal.

In terms of growth, we have many friends worldwide. It would be nice to acknowledge that while they may not be of Irish heritage they adopt Ireland as their second home. The Minister might consider the introduction of a friends of Ireland certificate which he and other Ministers when abroad could use to acknowledge and honour people who have contributed a lot to Ireland. I am glad the Minister is to honour Irish people abroad who have made a substantial contribution and that he will also focus on the young diaspora. I look forward to hearing reports on the forum from my colleagues. I wish the Minister every success over the weekend.

I am absolutely gobsmacked by the amount of work done by the Minister at the United Nations. It makes phenomenal and fascinating reading. I know that the Minister is short on time and do not want to unduly praise him.

The Minister's position on Palestine was phenomenally progressive. We are a small nation with a tight and fond working relationship with the United States and we know its position on Palestine. That as a small nation we could go there and speak as authoritatively, openly and honestly as we did builds respect throughout the world that even though we are a small island we are not kowtowing to any of the bigger nations and have our differences with our good friend, the United States of America. What the Minister did, in terms of leading the way on the Palestinian issue in the United Nations, was admirable. It is probably unique to a small country like Ireland that we can take such strong independent stands. In doing so, we ultimately build respect for ourselves as a small nation. I congratulate the Minister. We were with the US ambassador the other day and he was very pleased, as we all were, at the Minister's decision to grant the certificate of Irish heritage to the family in such a location as the New York Fire Department's headquarters, where the Irish lads operated out of. It has gone down very well with the ambassador, the American people and the Irish people. It was telling this was the first certificate that was issued; it creates a greater bond with the United States.

No one has mentioned this point on Palestine but there was no meeting with Israeli Foreign Minister Lieberman, although there was supposed to be a meeting. There might be diplomatic language to say his schedule did not facilitate a meeting but presumably that was a snub to the Minister.

It seems strange the Minister could meet so many people when such an important issue was on the agenda but that this meeting did not take place.

On the Minister's impending presidency of the OSCE, having met the Lithuanians and the Kazak OSCE leaders, I wish the Minister the best next year. He will have an important role to play and it will project Ireland into the centre of diplomatic relations. I was interested in the strengthening of our role in mediation in the peaceful settlement of conflict. We should address this in future because we are co-sponsors of that project. The nutrition and food security initiative between Ireland and the USA is also fascinating. We might be boxing clever here and punching above our weight.

The Global Irish Economic Forum is very important and it must work. It is a phenomenal concept. Everyone knows of George Mitchell but there is another man in town at present who 25 years ago was influential in twinning San Jose and Dublin city, which I believe was the start of the high tech industries. The relationship between Silicon Valley and Ireland was kick-started by this man, Tom McInerney, who was the mayor of the city at this stage. He is now a participant in the forum. He has played a phenomenal role. When we were establishing those relationships 25 years ago, that was the time to establish the forum. The shining example of our success in high tech industry and our relationship with America through Tom MacInerney and Silicon Valley is a testament to his work.

Point 15 in the project is to further enhance links between Irish higher education and enterprise. Dr. Tim McTiernan from the University of Ontario Institute of Technology is attending the forum but how does the Minister hope to develop these contacts when Irish third level institutions are absent from the forum?

I welcome the Tánaiste and the position he took at the UN on the Palestinians. I asked him about this some time ago and I went away apprehensive about what he might do but he deserves our full support for what he did, it was the right thing to do.

The Minister mentioned the settlements, and Deputy Mac Lochlainn was right when he said continued building is provocative. It is now making a difficult position almost intractable. It reminds me of the 1609 plantation of Ulster because we are still grappling with the consequences of that and the international community must come up with some initiative to address and prevent the continuance of the building. I have no doubt it has been done by the Israelis so the two-state solution and a fair resolution in the region will be prevented. A more co-ordinated approach is required. I agree with Senator Daly. The committee had lunch with the US ambassador, and he recognised our different position on this issue, but he was complimentary of the cohesion on a wide range of areas between the USA and Ireland.

The Minister commented on the Arab spring. One hopes it will have positive consequences globally but I wonder is it premature. What is the risk that fundamentalists might gain control of those countries and we will encounter the problems we have seen in other jurisdictions?

The Minister mentioned Bahrain in his comments on positive changes that might take place but I notice Iran was not mentioned. I have written to the Minister about Pastor Nadarkhani who is under the death sentence because the Iranian Supreme Court supported a sentence imposed because he has refused to change his faith from Christianity and consequently he was sentenced to death. That is an appalling situation when freedom of religion is a fundamental human right. The Baha'i are also encountering oppression and have an ongoing difficulty with the provision of education in their religion. That has been made illegal and penalised at every turn by the Iranians. What is the Department's position on that?

I compliment the Minister and wish him well at the second Global Irish Economic Forum. It is good to see there have been positive outcomes from the 2009 forum but we must build on that success. Trade is an important part of the Minister's portfolio and at a recent meeting, a survey of SMEs showed that, apart from the taxation system, the next best assistance for job creation to the SME sector would be assistance in overseas marketing. What is the Department doing about that?

The Passport Office on Molesworth Street has become dysfunctional. It is a union's job to represent members and management's job is to manage, not to abdicate responsibility to unions. At what level is management being held responsible for the dysfunction of that office? It compares very unfavourably with other passport offices so there is a specific problem in that office that must be tackled by management.

I apologise for being late but I was at the Council of Europe. It was ironic because Palestine had applied for partners in democracy and there was a debate on this in the Council of Europe yesterday and the motion was passed. Senator Terry Leyden made an impassioned speech in which he praised the Minister and Ireland's recognition of Palestine. It was also interesting that there were two speakers from the Knesset, one of whom was positive on Palestine, looking to be a partner in democracy with the Council of Europe. He wished them well. The next speaker from the Knesset took a completely different view, namely, that the Palestinians were not entitled to anything. It was ironic when one listened to one speaker following the other, both expressing totally different views. It was a pity that the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, Deputy Howlin, did not know what the Tánaiste would say because when he was asked a direct question in the Dáil last week, he was not able to give a direct answer as to the Irish position in the UN on Palestine. I think the right decision was made in the end.

At the Council of Europe meeting yesterday we debated the Arab spring and the emerging democracies. I had some time to speak on that topic. One of the points made was that the outcome was far from certain and there was a very real danger in some countries that one dictatorship will be replaced by another. Even though one sees small glimmers of hope, Tunisia had been putting forward a proposal for 50% representation of men and women, even though I am on record as being against gender quotas, I could welcome it in Tunisia. The electoral list system, however, is such that it will possibly preclude that happening. I think the Minister has a role because the Irish are respected on that issue.

My final point is on tax justice, although it seems a paradox that one could have justice with taxation. Whether one has respect for Christian Aid or not, one of its statistics is that $160 billion is lost to developing countries because multinational companies do not pay the correct tax. I wonder if Ireland can be a voice asking for country-by-country auditing of these multinationals so that the taxes that should be paid to developing countries are paid. Allied with that is the whole area of transfer pricing, where it is cheap to buy a particular good in a developed country but when it goes back to the developing country, it is an astronomical price.

I welcome the Tánaiste and compliment him on his level of activity, which he reported to us. That comes as no surprise to me, knowing his roots in east Galway and the good grounding he got in that part of the world.

The Tánaiste's announcement of additional aid for the victims of the famine in the Horn of Africa brings the total Government aid to €10 million. Does he envisage being able to provide additional aid before the end of the year? Will he comment on the progress being made to turn the tide there?

I welcome the speech he made to the General Assembly and we long for the day that the conflict between the Palestinians and Israelis will be resolved. Given the respect for Irish people throughout the world and our experience of resolving conflict on this island, we are in a very strong position and we would like to see the Minister playing his part in helping to broker a solution to this long-standing conflict. I hope to see progress in this area during the lifetime of this Government.

I know the Tánaiste expressed his grave concern about the treatment of medical professionals in Bahrain. Are there practical steps that the EU can take to ensure this situation does not continue and that doctors whose only interest is to provide care for their people will not be treated by the authorities in this manner? From what he has seen, does he hold out hope that this situation can be resolved?

The economic forum is probably one of the most significant events that will take place in the city this year, building on the success of the 2009 event. We would all dearly love to have been accommodated, but I wish the Minister well and I have no doubt that significant progress will be made.

Will the Tánaiste elaborate on his meeting with the Foreign Minister of Russia, who is an important man in a big country?

A wide range of issues has been touched upon. I thank members both for their support for the position which Ireland took on the Palestinian issue at the UN General Assembly, and the work we are doing, particularly in the Horn of Africa, and the arrangements we are making for the Global Irish Economic Forum this weekend.

I will concentrate on replying to the questions that were raised. Deputy Mac Lochlainn wanted to know our position in the event of a resolution coming before the General Assembly. My understanding of the position is that the application for membership of the United Nations is now with the Security Council and that it will take its course there. It is expected as the Deputy said, that the veto will be used. If that happens it will then be a matter for the Palestinians as to whether they submit a resolution to the General Assembly. It has been expected that a possible resolution would be to seek observer status and I indicated in my speech at the UN that provided the terms of the resolution were reasonable and balanced, I would expect that we would support that resolution. Obviously we must wait and see the terms of the resolution before it is submitted.

It is also fair to say that we do not see such a resolution as a substitute or as an alternative for the engagement in negotiations. I would see the Quartet statement as forming the basis for negotiations. There is a timetable that is set down for reaching certain objectives and for concluding ultimately the Palestinian issue. Everybody knows that the problem in the Middle East must be resolved by the two sides sitting down with whatever assistance they get and negotiating a settlement based on the 1967 borders. It is the situation that the level of engagement by the US, probably due to the electoral cycle, is probably not as great now as it might be at another time. There is, therefore, a particular role for the European Union. We have actively encouraged the European Union and the High Representative, Catherine Ashton, in particular to take a very active role in the Middle East peace process and we will continue to do that. She has taken a very robust position, as evidenced, for example when the Quartet talks did not succeed in the earlier part of the summer. We will continue to support that and to use our good offices to move things forward.

I thank Deputy Durkan for his comments on the scaling up of the nutrition initiative which was launched by Ireland in the United States last year. It has now grown to be quite a significant movement. It is centred on the idea that in addressing hunger and poverty, one concentrates on the first 1,000 days, from conception to the time the child reaches the 1,000 day stage. If a child is well nourished during that period, the chances of survival, cognitive development and so on are greatly improved. It is a programme that is very enthusiastically supported by the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, who I met just after St. Patrick's Day. We talked about the initiative and about moving it forward. We had a joint initiative in Tanzania in June with the Tanzanian Prime Minister and now about 20 countries are signed up to the Scaling-Up Nutrition initiative. The event organised on the first day of the UN General Assembly was addressed by US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, the UN Secretary General, Ban Ki-moon, and me and was extremely well attended. Clearly this is an area where Ireland and the US, jointly on this occasion, have given leadership in addressing hunger and nutrition and it is an initiative that is succeeding.

On the idea of a permanent Middle East peace process secretariat, the priority is to get the talks under way. That has more to do with political will at this stage than the establishment of structures. In some respects, the Quartet forms the structure around which negotiations can take place. As Senator Daly said Ireland has very friendly relations with the US and that will remain the case. The US is a great friend of Ireland and Ireland is a great friend of the US. We can differ on an issue such as Palestine, respect our differences yet work co-operatively across a whole range of areas.

I was pleased to have the opportunity to present the first certificate of Irish heritage to the family of the late Joseph Hunter, a member of the New York Fire Department who died in the attacks of 11 September 2001. Subsequently, I had the opportunity to visit the site of the World Trade Centre and see the new construction work taking place there, including the very impressive memorial erected on the site of the Twin Towers. During the course of that discussion which was hosted there by the head of the port authority, who has Irish connections, he expressed a wish to come to Ireland. If he does come I would recommend him as one who would make an interesting guest to this committee and could make a presentation to this committee on what has been done there.

I thank Senator Daly for his kind remarks about Ambassador Collins. I will be very happy to convey those sentiments to him. I thank Deputy Eric Byrne for his very generous remarks. Arrangements for bilateral meetings on the margins of the UN General Assembly are moveable feasts. Depending on people's various commitments in attending various meetings, speaking arrangements and so on, they have to be rearranged and do not all take place. I do not read any significance into the fact that arrangement had to be changed. I have spoken with Foreign Minister Liebermann by telephone and I have met with the Israeli ambassador here and with senior representatives of the Israeli Government. Ireland enjoys friendly and diplomatic relations with Israel. There are many business contacts and we talk to each other. I would hope that relationship can be used to good effect in encouraging Israel to participate in discussions.

Ireland takes the chair of the OSCE next year which runs in to our Presidency of the EU, therfore the two will complement each other. I attended a meeting in New York on the mediation issue. This iniative, which we support, is being promoted by Finland and Turkey. The UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon was keen that we would participate and that the mediation services of the UN would be used more in addressing conflict situations. Ireland has particular experience to bring to that initiative.

I thank Senator Jim Walsh for his remarks. I am sorry if my remarks at an earlier meeting of the committee sounded ambiguous. I hope I have managed to clarify those. He raised, as did Deputy Maureen O'Sullivan, the issue of what happens post-Arab Spring. Many concerns are being raised about the danger of fundamentalism and so on. All of the countries in the Arab spring - Egypt, Libya and Tunisia - have committed to the holding of free and fair elections. The liberation movements, the popular movements, which gave rise to the change in those countries have all stated that it is their intention to pursue open pluralistic democracies. There are, however, groups like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt about whom some people have expressed concerns but, again, it has said it is not seeking majority power and that it will abide by the rules of democracy. It is an issue with which the international community needs to be continuously engaged.

The UN will have a lead role in Libya in the post-conflict situation. One of the issues I discussed at the bilateral meeting with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon was the role of women. There are concerns, as one participant said at one of the meetings, that the Arab spring was in danger of turning into a dark winter for women. Just as with the position we have adopted on the Palestinian issue, as a country we must be very robust on this. The freedom of women, participation in society and participation in politics has to be underlined and underpinned. I have a great deal of confidence in the strong position the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has taken on this issue and I assured him that as a country we will support his efforts in that regard.

On the issue of Iran, we have regular dialogue with the Iranian ambassador with whom we express our serious concerns about human rights issues, including the Baha'i. Our Middle East director met yesterday with the Iranian ambassador to protest about the treatment of Pastor Nadarkani. We are also pressing for an EU statement by Catherine Ashton on this issue.

I wish to refer to the issue of the Passport Office which has been raised. There were two particular problems in the Passport Office this year. There was increased demand and there was a delay in securing sanction for additional temporary staff to deal with seasonal demand. We have three passport offices - Molesworth Street, Balbriggan and Cork. The public office for most of the country is in Molesworth Street. Balbriggan does not have a public office and Cork deals largely with demand in the Cork area. The problems in Molesworth Street were due to an overwhelming majority of public callers. I regret the difficulties and delays which occurred in that office but I reject the allegation of dsyfunctionality. That is not something to which I would subscribe.

May I explain for a second?

No, please allow the Tánaiste to finish.

The reality is that in Molesworth Street there was an increase in the number of passport applications. There, they take the applications in off the street. There was also an increase in the number of people who applied for a passport to be delivered within a short period. We believe some of that demand was due to people booking late deal holidays and so on. Therefore, they did not use the normal ten-day service available to them. This added to the demand. An additional problem in Molesworth Street was that one of the machines used for printing passports was out of action due to a flood which took place some months ago. We will work on the problem to prevent the same type of delays occurring next year due to the seasonal demand on the service.

I thank members for their support for the Global Irish Economic Forum which will take place this weekend. As a number of members have said, this is a very important event which will bring together a large number of senior people in the corporate world who are willing to assist Ireland. We have a job of work to do to restore our country's reputation and encourage inward investment to ensure we create and generate jobs. Investment decisions are not made overnight and sometimes it can take a couple of years for them to come to fruition. The friendship and resources available to us from people at a senior level in the corporate world opens doors for us, helps our State agencies to identify potential investors and often swings decisions at the critical point. The forum is an important event in that sense.

We should also place this event in the context of the wider diaspora activity with which my Department is engaged. While this event is focused on business people and influential people at a senior level, we should also emphasise the important work that is done by Irish community organisations, particularly where there are large numbers of Irish emigrants. We should also mention organisations like the GAA, which supports the Asia-Pacific business network, and the range of organisations based here and abroad that work in organising the wider Irish community. Some 70 million people throughout the world claim to have some Irish connection. It is a huge resource for a country with a population of 4.5 million to know that 70 million others are available to it and are friendly towards it and want to help. Ireland as a country is well advanced in organising its diaspora. Take, for example, the St. Patrick's Day events and the networking that is done by our embassies and Irish organisations throughout the world. Working with the diaspora is becoming competitive now because other countries are looking to their diaspora in much the same way. The forum this weekend is very important and I have no doubt that it will be successful and will contribute to the economic recovery towards which we are all working.

Thank you Tánaiste. I will allow Senator Walsh to make a brief observation.

I thank the Tánaiste for his response on all questions, but specifically his response on the Passport Office. I assure him I did not use the word "dysfunctionality" without good reason. Some time ago, I said to Blair Horan that because of the chaos that ensued as a consequence of the industrial action, the people in the Passport Office should work overtime without payment. He smiled at me. That is what happens in the private sector; people work overtime without payment.

The reason I raised the matter is that I hear a lot of complaints about the Molesworth Street office and people have complained of rudeness there. A lady who sought a passport recently complained to me. Admittedly, she wanted her passport within fewer than ten days, but she was treated appallingly in the office. Eventually, I got onto the office and spoke to somebody and she was referred to Iveagh House, where she got the same treatment. She went to Cork the following day and got her passport. There is no customer service ethos whatsoever in the Passport Office and I blame management for that. There is an onus on Mr. Cooney to ensure that the people working under him perform and deliver services to paying customers. As parliamentarians, we should not stand over the lack of service in that area. I do not say this lightly nor do I say it often, but I am highly critical of the service.

I wish to make an observation.

May I respond? I will not stand over rudeness, lack of service or discourtesy from anybody, no matter where they are located. If any member of this committee or the Houses wants to bring evidence of that to my attention, I will have it investigated. However, I am not prepared to allow or to stand over a kind of general statement that suggests this kind of behaviour somehow characterises the way in which staff of either the Passport Office or the Department deal with the public. I have headed this Department for a little over six months and have found staff at every level, whether in Iveagh House, embassies or the Passport Office, work hard and are committed to what they do. In my experience, they work way above and beyond the call of duty. I have no doubt that, as in every organisation, there are problems to which people can point. Where problems are pointed out, we will deal with them, but we have a good staff. If there are individual cases where standards were not as high as they should have been, we will deal with them. However, I will not allow this type of allegation to be made in a generalised way about staff whom I am satisfied are -----

People in queues were told by staff they were wasting their time and should leave. We should not stand over that.

Please allow the Tánaiste to finish.

I will bring the evidence.

All I will say to Senator Walsh is that if he has specific cases, he should bring them to our attention. However, whether with regard to the Passport Office or elsewhere, we have had far too much of this kind of generalised putting-down of people who work in our public services who do their best to do a good job. I will investigate and have investigated particular allegations or complaints. However, I will stand over the reputation, the hard work and commitment of the staff I have the privilege and pleasure of leading as Minister.

I have been in the Passport Office on a number of occasions and have noticed that it works the other way too. I have seen staff being abused by people who come in for passports. People almost demand passports the day they come in to the office. This committee has visited the facility in Balbriggan and we have seen at first hand the complexities involved in processing a passport. A passport is a complex and valuable document and sometimes people take it for granted. We saw that it takes time to analyse documents and produce passports. I have gone to the passport office on occasion to look for a passport for a constituent and I have seen passport staff being abused.

It should not happen.

I have seen it. We hear stories-----

That does not excuse them for abusing other people either.

Any time I have visited Molesworth Street I have received courteous attention. I was not Chairman of this committee at the time and I did not say I was a Deputy. All I had was a note from the person whose passport I was collecting. To be fair to the staff in the office, they work very hard and often in difficult conditions. As the Tánaiste indicated, some people looking for passports want them instantly and there was a rush last year. We will revisit the issue before the 2012 season. I wish to be fair to the staff of the Passport Office in Balbriggan, Cork and in Molesworth Street because their work is excellent. It can be unfair so any specific incidents should be dealt with in private. We have to be fair to the staff and they are not here to defend themselves. I wish to let it be known that I have had very satisfactory dealings with the Passport Office.

I thank the Tánaiste and his officials for attending this meeting. I wish him well in his attendance at the Global Irish Economic Forum at the weekend. The Opposition representatives and I will contribute constructively at the forum. I look forward to an opportunity for a follow-up meeting with the Tánaiste on other issues which were raised this afternoon, in particular, his meeting with the Russian Foreign Minister and other issues resulting from his recent attendance at the General Assembly.

The committee members look forward to further meetings with the Tánaiste in the near future. I thank him for engaging with us on the OSCE chairmanship which will be a very important role for him. Deputy Byrne is anxious to have a meeting in advance of our chairmanship and we will do so before the end of the year in preparation for the OSCE chairmanship.

We would be delighted to welcome the chairman of the New York Port Authority should he decide to visit Ireland.

The joint committee went into private session at 7.55 p.m. and adjourned at 8.10 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 12 October 2011.
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