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Joint Committee on the Secondary Legislation of the European Communities díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 11 Mar 1981

Breeding Animals of the Porcine and Bovine Species.

This report relates to the two items mentioned in paragraph 1 both of which have been considered by the Sub-Committee on agriculture and fisheries matters. The first concerns the proposed Council regulation aimed at liberalising intra-Community trade in breeding pigs. The different regulations on quality standards operating in the various Member States are at present hampering trade severely. The position is that some countries specialise in breeds not always found in others while there has been a marked increase generally in the production of hybrid breeding pigs. To deal with this situation it is proposed that interference will be forbidden in intra-Community trade in pure-bred and hybrid breeding pigs and in their semen and embryos. The proposal also lays down zootechnical (quality) measures for assessing pigs' genetic value and requirements for natural service and artificial insemination. The proposal also includes provision for the adoption of implementing measures of a purely technical nature. The adoption of the proposed regulation would likely mean that the licensing of boars under the Livestock Breeding Act, 1925, would have to be discontinued and the relevant regulations made under that Act would need to be repealed.

The Irish pig population is mainly pure-bred, the Large White and Landrace breeds being predominant. The repeal of existing national legislation would mean that hybrid boars, as well as pure-bred boars, would be permitted for breeding purposes without control of breeding quality. Large scale breeding companies which produce commercial hybrid breeding stock would be allowed to import stock and market it for breeding. The Department of Agriculture, who have been consulted by the sub-committee, state that this could adversely affect the market for stock of our existing pedigree breeders.

Furthermore, under the proposed regulation we would not be permitted to apply quality control of breeding stock proposed for import. In that event, stock which might adversely affect some elements of quality in our commercial pig stocks could be imported. The Department are satisfied that in the case of certain types of these hybrid imported stocks their quality is inferior to that of the pure-bred Irish stock. Furthermore, hybrids could pass even more freely and with less restrictions than pure-bred stock between Community states. As a result, the quality of our bacon could deteriorate with a consequential loss of quality exports. Eighty-five to 90 per cent of our pigs are at present grading A or A special. The high quality of our bacon is due mainly to the quality of our pure-bred stock.

In addition, coloured pigs, which are currently prohibited in this country, could be imported. The prohibition on coloured pigs stems from the possible adverse effect which pigmented pigs may have on over-all bacon quality.

Regarding the quality of Irish pigs, the attention of members is directed to the scientific evidence reproduced in an annex to this report, which shows that the quality of the meat of the Irish Large White and Landrace pigs is superior to that of most continental strains and breeds.

In view of the serious consequences which the Department of Agriculture suggest could follow for Irish pig producers from the liberalisation of trade in hybrids, the Committee are not in favour of their inclusion in the proposed regulation. While increased and free intra-Community trade is in general desirable, nevertheless, if it resulted in a deterioration in the quality of Irish breeding stocks, the Committee are of the opinion that it would not be for the ultimate good of the Irish pig and bacon industry. I am sure Members will agree with that view.

That is the full report on the porcine regulation. I learned a new word from it all. I looked up exudative muscle to see what it meant. For members who do not know, it means sweaty.

In the discussion with the Department officials, apart from the ordinary legalised importation of hybrids which are having a deteriorating effect on the Irish breed, was there mention at all of the importation, which cannot be quantified, in relation to cross-Border activities?

Yes, that did come up. There is a degree of importation. Pigs are coming across the Border some way or other but it is a very small percentage. The Department officials were satisfied that they could deal with that matter adequately without any adverse effect on our pig stocks. The freeing of intra-Community trade without any controls would be very serious for the very good quality stock and the very high quality bacon we have here.

Generally speaking, we would like to get views, where it is judged by the Sub-Committee it would be right to do so, from more than the Minister and his Department. I do not know if there are any bodies who would be anxious to do that. Your appendix indicates that there is independent support for the departmental view. That point having been made, we can leave it for the moment.

The Irish Farmers' Association were consulted.

It seems they were referred to only about the bovine matter but we can take it that they were referred to on the porcine issue also.

The scientific advice is included in the appendix.

If this regulation was accepted without amendment there would then be the danger of lowering our standards. Could pigs be imported if we do not continue what has been done over the years to upgrade them? What would the situation be in regard to disease protection such as foot and mouth disease if this regulation was implemented without amendment? Would there be a danger of importing foot and mouth into the country?

I cannot see that the disease rules could be affected by the provision of freeing of trade. If a boar capable of generating disease was imported under the liberalised trade, it would be caught by our disease eradication measures anyhow.

It probably means that the animal is healthy.

We are mainly concerned about breed. It could very well be that those breeds are more prone to certain disease. The second item which is the subject of this report relates to the acceptance for breeding purposes of pure-bred animals of the bovine species. A directive, 77/504/EEC, adopted by the Council in 1977 provides for measures to be taken to liberalise intra-Community trade in pure-bred cattle for breeding. The present proposal provides for the removal of national restrictions on (i) acceptance for breeding purposes of pure-bred females and (ii) from 1 January 1986 on acceptance for natural mating of pure-bred bulls. It also provides, pending the adoption of Community rules, for removal of national restrictions on acceptance of bulls or their semen either for testing or artificial insemination, provided that they are acceptable for those purposes in a member state and subject to their being identified in accordance with a method officially accepted in their home state.

It also makes provision for collection and identification of semen. The effects of adopting this proposal as far as Ireland is concerned are that national rules for the licensing of pure-bred bulls would have to be dismantled on or before 1 January 1986 and the Livestock Breeding Act, 1925, under which the quality of bulls used for breeding is controlled, would have to be repealed. However, Council Directive 77/504/EEC also provides for the establishment of criteria to govern entry into herd books and control of the quality of pure-bred breeding bulls will thus be exercised through herd book registration. There is no Community provision for the control of non pure-bred breeding bulls, the use of which is generally prohibited under the Livestock Breeding Act, 1925. These bulls are known throughout the country as "scrub" bulls. To enable consideration to be given to the question of the control, if any, which might be exercised in respect of scrub bulls and since under the proposed Directive national rules would not have to be dismantled for some time, the Department of Agriculture have decided to continue the existing licensing system under the Livestock Breeding Act, 1925, for the present. In view of the transitional period allowable for the dismantling of national rules the proposal is reasonable. The adoption of the remaining Articles would not present any problems as the proposals are in line with existing control systems here.

The Irish Farmers' Association were consulted by the Sub-Committee and their views are set out in paragraph 14. The position regarding pure-bred bovines varies greatly from state to state and there are conflicting schools of thought on how the draft Directive should be implemented. The main difficulty concerns the conditions governing intra-Community trade in bulls or their semen. At the Council of Permanent Representatives meeting of 12 December 1980 no agreement as to standards of control was found possible. The Sub-Committee are advised that because of the continuing impasse and the wide divergence of views among member states, it has been decided not to proceed further with the proposal for the time being. The Sub-Committee see the situation as satisfactory in the sense that we can continue to exercise our own quality and licensing controls to meet our national needs for the foreseeable future. I recommend this report for adoption by the Joint Committee.

Do I understand your concluding remarks, summarised in paragraph 15, as meaning that in fact this Directive is not going to go ahead?

You are not merely referring to the provisions of Article 2 but the entire Directive which is bogged down?

That is right.

Then the report is very servicable. In the case of the Irish Farmers' Association, apart from receiving a communication in writing from them, they should be invited to come and be subject to examination as to their views. May I take the liberty of saying that that seems to be generally a desirable course to maintain? Normally, we have a paragraph in these reports thanking the bodies which have given assistance to the Sub-Committee in question and that paragraph could be inserted by the Secretariat.

Paragraph 1 agreed to.

PARAGRAPH 2.

I move:

In line 7 after "concerning item (b)" to insert "and wishes to thank them for their help."

Amendment agreed to.
Paragraph, as amended, agreed to.
Paragraphs 3 to 15, inclusive, agreed to.
Appendix agreed to.
Draft report, as amended, agreed to.
Ordered: To report accordingly.
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