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Seanad Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 4 Mar 1998

Vol. 154 No. 11

Adjournment Matters. - Farrenrory (Tipperary) National Monument.

Chuirim fáilte roimh an Aire agus gabhaim mo bhuíochas pearsanta leí toisc gur chuir sí an stro uirthi fhéin teacht isteach chun éisteacht leis an rún seo.

I thank the Minister for making herself available to reply to this matter. It came to my notice that the Tipperary Historical Society recently passed a resolution requesting the Government to take a building in Farrenrory, Ballingarry, Thurles, County Tipperary, into State care. The building in question is known as the Warhouse and also the Widow McCormack's house. It is already a listed building but that is no guarantee of survival. The building is important because it is one of the key sites related to the failed Young Ireland rebellion in 1848. Many illustrious names were connected with the battle which took place there, including William Smith O'Brien, Thomas Francis Meagher, Charles Gavin Duffy, John Blake Dillon and others. The battle, if one could call it that because it had no impact in terms of military history, was really a minor scuffle and it was as much concerned with the Irish psyche as it was with military achievement.

This year is the 150th anniversary of the Young Ireland rebellion which occurred during a particularly sad period in Irish history that witnessed the end of the repeal movement and the Young Irelanders themselves. To provide some background information, these fine intellectuals were not aggressive in any sense of the word. One could say that they were exceptionally romantic figures and they are still seen in that way by history and folklore.

The Young Irelanders converged on the part of County Tipperary to which I referred with the intention of creating a rebellion and promoting the concept of national independence. This occurred at a time when new legislation had been introduced to allow the authorities arrest and imprison people for a period of six months without trial. The Young Irelanders said they opposed that but it was obvious they were dedicated to starting a rising. The security forces travelled out from Callan to the area in question and took the Young Irelanders by surprise. Various scuffles ensued but the main site of the battle was a relatively new house owned by the Widow McCormack in which she and her family were living at the time. No member of the security forces was killed during the battle but two Young Ireland supporters died.

After the rebellion, many of the Young Irelanders, who were fine intellectuals, either left Ireland or were transported and many of them made a major impact on public life in the Australian state of Tasmania. I recall reading that a large number of them rose to positions as governors, heads of police, etc. This underlines the ability, vision and intellectual capacity that was lost to Ireland because of our unfortunate history.

There has been much discussion in certain parts of the country about the 1798 Rebellion. It is right that we should commemorate that event. However, a small community in the Slieve Ardagh area, which runs from Kilkenny towards Cashel and Killenaul, has decided to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the Young Ireland rebellion. I understand the Taoiseach will attend the commemoration and 250 people are to travel from Tasmania because of the connection of the Young Irelanders with that state. An extensive event has been planned and I compliment the organising committee in that regard. A huge pageant involving 200 participants will take place, major lecturers from around the country will attend and there will be many musical events.

It would be nice to think that the Warhouse could, in conjunction with the commemoration, be taken into State care. We must remember that it is not always the major battles that are of great importance, the significance of events is often more important. When one bears in mind that at the time of the Young Ireland rebellion — which occurred during the Famine — people's spirits would have been exceptionally low. This group of men, who held respectable positions and stations in life, were not seeking anything for themselves. The Young Irelanders remotivated and inspired the Irish people and helped them rise from the dungeon of depression imposed by the Famine. It is for that reason that the Young Ireland movement is significant.

The risings of 1867 and 1916 would never have taken place but for the Young Irelanders' deep intellectual assessment of the Irish psyche and their right to full sovereignty. It was they who established the agenda and set down the parameters of nationhood. It is sad to think of the Warhouse, or the Widow McCormack's House as it is known locally, empty and forlorn. I regard it as being as important a national monument as any other.

When the Cathaoirleach read out this matter and mentioned the Widow McCormack's house I saw many Senators wondering who was the Widow McCormack. In local history and folklore the Warhouse is regarded as being as important as Bodenstown or any other shrine to Irish nationalism. I recommend to the Minister that she considers the request from the Tipperary Historical Society. I compliment the local newspapers —The Nationalist Clonmel, the TipperaryStar and the Nenagh Guardian— which have been to the fore in presenting this case. I was glad to see today's The Irish Times feature the 150th anniversary and the forthcoming festival at Slieveardagh. I ask the Minister to consider this matter. There may be difficulties but we must find a way to overcome them.

I thank the Senator for raising this matter and giving me an opportunity to speak on it. It is no surprise to hear the Senator expound eloquently on this period of Irish history. I agree that had there not been the Young Ireland movement we would not have had the Fenians of 1867 and the 1916 Rising.

The dwelling known as the Warhouse at Farrenrory Upper, Ballingarry, County Tipperary, was placed on the register of historic monuments in April 1989 in accordance with the provisions of section 5(5) of the National Monuments (Amendment) Act, 1987. One of the purposes of this order was to give legal recognition to the historical significance of the building as the location where, in July 1848, the Young Ireland rebellion culminated in a physical conflict between a party of police who occupied the house and a group of local miners and farmers led by William Smith O'Brien, James Stephens, Terence Bellew McManus, Patrick O'Donoghue and John Kavanagh. The effect of this order is to make it obligatory for an individual wishing to carry out works to the monument to give two months notice in writing to Dúchas, the heritage service of my Department.

Two of the leaders of the Young Ireland movement, William Smith O'Brien and Thomas Francis Meagher were taken to Kilmainham Gaol while awaiting trial for their roles in the rebellion of 1848. The historical and cultural significance of the Young Ireland movement is commemorated appropriately in the new award winning exhibition in Kilmainham. There is a formal portrait of William Smith O'Brien, signed by him while a prisoner in Kilmainham on 31 August 1848, on display as part of the commemorative tribute to the Young Ireland movement.

Another equally important purpose of including the Warhouse on the register of historic monuments was to facilitate the Ballingarry Young Ireland 1848 committee in its aim of acquiring the property with a view to establishing a proposed international centre for national research and a heritage and genealogical centre. The group considered that such an order would improve its chances of securing funding for its project. While the building is of historical significance and has, accordingly, been afforded adequate legal protection and recognition by my Department, it is not considered to be significant from an architectural perspective.

In the overall context of commitments and responsibilities which my Department has in relation to taking monuments into State care, it would not be appropriate for Dúchas to become either guardian or owner of the Warhouse in Ballingarry. Any development of or commemorations at the Warhouse would be best undertaken by the historical society and/or the Young Ireland committee. I recognise and congratulate the historical society and the committee on their great work in the local area. I understand that the Young Ireland committee did at one stage consider approaching the Heritage Council regarding a possible allocation of funding for the purchase and development of the Warhouse, but I understand the committee did not subsequently make a formal application to the Heritage Council.

I am sure the Senator will appreciate the wide variety of demands made on my Department in relation to increasing the already overburdened portfolio of monuments in its care. This necessitates a process of demarcation, especially in light of the more formal remit of the service in granting legal protection to monuments dating from pre-1700. As in the case of the Warhouse in Ballingarry, the service will use its powers under the National Monuments Acts, 1930 to 1994, to grant recognition and facilitate the protection of historic sites. In such circumstances it is hoped that local community initiatives can be instrumental in copperfastening the place of such sites in both local and national history.

The Seanad adjourned at 8.45 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 5 March 1998.

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