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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Friday, 20 Apr 1928

Vol. 23 No. 3

STATEMENT BY DEPUTY.

I wish to make some remarks with reference to the reports concerning yesterday's discussion in the Dáil which appear in the issues of both the Dublin daily papers this morning. These papers, by the courtesy of the Dáil, are entitled to have their representatives here for the purpose of getting speedy reports of the business done, but when inaccurate and altogether misleading reports appear it is necessary, I think, that attention should be drawn to the fact. The House will recollect that on the Railway Vote yesterday I moved to reduce the amount by the sum of £27,360. Both papers state that the Vote which I was moving to reduce was for £25,636. The Vote was, in fact, for £52,136. There is no such figure mentioned throughout the Estimate as £25,636. It is a pure concoction which is originated in the imagination of the reporters present, and nowhere else. The difficulty that arose was due to the fact that a Vote on Account had been passed by the House amounting to one-third of the total Estimate in each case. The proposal, therefore, to reduce the entire Vote by the entire amount of a single Sub-head was considered to be irregular, and it was necessary to reduce the amount mentioned in the amendment. It was a difficulty which might easily arise, and when it did arise and was detected, it was very easily remedied. I do not wish to say anything else in the matter. We hope we will get a fair report of the proceedings here in the Press, and that there will be, at least, nothing in the nature of flights of imagination such as we have had on this occasion.

The reference which I made during the debate on that Estimate to the colliery railway lines was also misrepresented and reported in a manner which gave an entirely wrong impression of what I did say. I presume that was due to the fact that the discussion was not understood by the Press representatives present. In the other case, however, that interpretation cannot possibly be placed on their action. They have concocted a figure for which there was no justification whatever.

I am not interested in the dispute between Deputy Lemass and the newspapers, but in the interests of accuracy the motion moved yesterday—Vote No. 57 —was that a sum not exceeding £25,636 be granted to complete the sum necessary to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1929.

That is the amount I moved for.

Will you tell me where that amount is given? It has not appeared on the Order Paper or in the Estimate. The Estimate is for a sum of £52,136.

Of which already one-third has been granted.

The situation is quite simple. The error which occurred yesterday on an amendment of which there was only short notice was one that it was quite easy to fall into. The Book of Estimates gives the total amount of the Vote. The entire Vote for the total amount, is £52,136. A Vote on Account was taken for one-third of the total Estimates and for varying amounts of the particular Votes. When a motion is moved on the Estimate, it is for the sum mentioned in the Book of Estimates, minus the sum already taken on account. In this case the sum asked for was £25,636. That sum of course was not mentioned until the Committee on Finance had actually a motion before it. The amendment on the Paper was an amendment to reduce the Vote by the whole amount of one sub-head. There are plenty of cases in which that would appear as being greater than the amount actually asked for in the motion. The error, as I say, is one that it is quite easy to make and was not of an overwhelming or extravagant nature. When it was seen, it was solved in a simple way, with the co-operation of Deputy Lemass and the Chair. There is hardly any ground for its being magnified.

The point I want to get out is: we voted a sum which I understood amounted to one-third of the Estimate when the Vote on Account had been taken.

Not necessarily one-third.

The sums vary.

It is quite obvious the ordinary Deputies may not be aware of that.

The total sum voted on account was one-third of the year's supply. The proportion varies on particular Estimates.

The whole of certain Votes might be in.

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