Last week, when this motion was under discussion, I indicated that I was supporting it. I drew the attention of the Minister and of the House generally to the fact that, when the proprietor of a business firm makes the slightest alteration in his premises, whether the alteration brings him new business or not, the valuation commissioners increase his valuation. I suggest, as other members of the House have suggested, that the commissioners should not revalue such improvements until a period of from five to seven years at least have elapsed.
The businessman who takes his courage in his hands and carries out improvements of that sort is entitled to some consideration. In many cases he has had to go to the bank and borrow money at the high rate of interest of 6 per cent. in order to be able to do so. I hold that such a person should get every encouragement from our public representatives, municipal as well as Government. Such a man is providing employment for those in the building trade who at the moment are so badly in need of it. I stated in the House some weeks ago that the present position in Dublin is that we have 500 carpenters and 500 painters idle and from 200 to 300 bricklayers unemployed. Those men are thinking of going back to England to get decent employment there.
I hold that a good deal of that employment is at their own doors at the moment if only business firms in this city and the country generally got a word of encouragement from the Government and our public representatives to embark on alterations and extensions. What is deterring them is the fear that a valuation will be put on the improvements that will be much greater than is anticipated and with no increase in business resulting from theirexpenditure. I suggest that they should get special encouragement by way of a remission of rates on the new portion of their premises for a period of from five to seven years.
Take the case of a firm which, because it was Government policy, buys in very costly machinery. It has to be laid on concrete foundations. The owner finds that he has to repair the roof or put on a new one in order to protect this new machinery. I say, without fear of contradiction, that what a person in that position fears most is that his valuation will be at least doubled. That is why we see so many houses in Dublin with old broken-down roofs. That applies to business premises, shops and private houses, even to some of the fine old houses of the Georgian period. You will find the roofs of many of them patched, and patched badly. On the other hand, if the owners felt that by clearing off the old roof and putting on a decent one the valuation would not be increased, I guarantee we would have hundreds of slaters employed in Dublin City within the next few weeks doing this very valuable work of protecting good rateable property. Instead we see these grand old houses falling into decay until, in the end, many of them will have to be condemned. The owners find that it is better for them to keep on drawing all they can out of such property rather than repair it, because they know that it will be condemned in a very short time. On the other hand, if a couple of hundred pounds were spent on a roof or in making some other part of a house habitable it would be quite good for another 25 years.
I am asking that some encouragement be given to people with houses or other property to improve. Apart altogether from the employment which would be given to those in the building trade, employment which is so urgently required, the extensions and alterations to houses and business premises in the city would be of the utmost importance from the point of view of extending the life of those buildings.
I am asking the Government to reconsider the whole position. I am not asking for a revaluation. Whatthat would mean is adding on something or taking on something extra. For that reason, I should not like to see a revaluation of the city started. If that were to be undertaken, it would mean that the valuation of premises in the city and country would be increased. All that I am asking is that a person who adds a kitchenette to his premises or builds an additional room will get some assurance that his valuation will not be increased for a certain period— until such time as he has had an opportunity of getting back some of the money spent in carrying out the alterations.
Take the case of a person who has a small premises. His windows may be four by four and perhaps he would like to enlarge them to six by six, ten by ten or 12 by 12, but he will not carry out the improvements because he is afaid that if he does his valuation will be increased, while there has been no increase in the volume of his business. I put it to the Minister that he himself has a great interest in Dublin City and I am sure would like to do something for it. I am sure he would not like to do anything that would deter owners from going ahead with necessary improvement. I ask him to consider the case of our housing schemes carried out by public utility societies, the houses being occupied mostly by young married couples, young men who are known as white collar workers.
When a man in that position goes into a new house he has to make a deposit of £50, £100 and, in some cases, £200. It represents perhaps his life's savings. The balance of the money which he requires for the purchase of the house has to be borrowed at a high rate of interest. If he goes to the bank he has to pay 6 per cent. for it, whereas the charge a couple of years ago was 4 per cent. and 4½ per cent.