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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 15 Dec 1954

Vol. 147 No. 11

Supplementary and Additional Estimate, 1954-55. - Agreement between Ireland and U.S.A.—Motion.

I move that Dáil Eireann approves the Agreement between Ireland and the United States of America governing disposition of the balance in the Counterpart Special Account signed at Dublin on the 17th June, 1954, a copy of which was laid on the Table of the Dáil on 4th December, 1954.

The Economic Co-operation Agreement which was signed in 1948 between this country and the United States of America was the basic agreement under which Ireland availed of aid under what came to be known as the Marshall Plan or the European Recovery Programme. That agreement provided amongst other things that where we received aid on a grant, as distinct from a loan basis, the Government should deposit into a special account opened in its own name in the Central Bank an amount in Irish pounds equivalent to the dollar cost to the United States Government of commodities, services and technical information made available to Ireland by that Government during the currency of the Marshall Plan.

Most of the aid which Ireland received was by way of loans, and as Deputies will be aware, we undertook to repay these loans with the interest thereon over a specified number of years. An initial grant, however, of $3,000,000 was made to Ireland in respect of the year ending 30th June, 1950, and a special account was accordingly opened in the Central Bank for the reception of the counterpart of this grant aid. Subsequent allocations raised the total amount of grant aid received by us to $18,000,000, and a corresponding amount of counterpart was lodged in the special account in the Central Bank. Five per cent. of each deposit made to the special, account was reserved for the use of the United States Government for its expenditures in Ireland in accordance with the provisions of the 1948 Agreement. The total amount now available in the counterpart special account is approximately £6,142,000.

The 1948 Agreement provided that the Irish Government could draw from the balance in the special account for such purposes as might be agreed on from time to time with the United States Government. In May, 1950 agreement was reached for the use of £50,000 from the special account to meet local currency expenditure by the Irish Government on technical assistance projects. During the years 1950 and 1951 other proposals for the utilisation of the Counterpart Funds were put before the American authorities, but no agreement had been reached regarding these proposals before the suspension of American economic assistance to Ireland early in 1952, and the final termination of such assistance later in that year.

The 1948 Agreement provided that where an unexpended balance remained in the special account at the time of termination of economic assistance, it would be necessary before that balance could be used to obtain the approval either by act or joint resolution of the Congress of the United States of America. Between June, 1952 and March, 1953, a total of twelve projects, together with a reserve fund were put before the American authorities designed to utilise in full the unexpended balance of £6,142,000.

It was decided accordingly to conclude a bilateral agreement between the two Governments regarding the disposition of the balance in the special account, and to present that agreement for approval to the U.S. Congress. A draft agreement for this purpose was accordingly negotiated and initialled in Dublin in August, 1953. Subsequently, however, certain modifications of the proposals were agreed upon in Order to meet the views expressed on the American side, particularly in the American Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Five projects were dropped from the original list, and one new one (that for an educational exchange programme) was added. In consequence of the foregoing changes in the list of projects, it became necessary to revise the draft agreement of August, 1953, and a new agreement based on the proposals as they now stand, was signed in Dublin on the 17th June, 1954. Ratification of this agreement on the American side was effected by the inclusion of a special provision in the Mutual Security Act of 1954, which was passed by both Houses of Congress and signed by President Eisenhower in August last. In accordance with Article V, this agreement becomes effective on the date of the exchange of ratifications by the two Governments. Before effecting this exchange, the approval of Dáil Eireann is being sought for the agreement.

The agreement expresses the mutual desire of the two Governments that the counterpart money should be used for the benefit of the Irish economy, and Article I thereof indicates in a general way the measures upon which the money may be spent. They are:—

"(a) Scholarship exchange between the United States and Ireland;

(b) Other programmes and projects (including the establishment of an agricultural institute) to improve and develop the agricultural production and marketing potential of Ireland and to increase the production and efficiency of Irish industry, and

(c) development programmes and projects in aid of the foregoing objectives."

All of these projects and programmes are to be drawn up with a view to their making a continuing contribution to our economy.

The purposes for which counterpart Funds may be used are, of course, couched in general terms only in the agreement, and Deputies will observe that Article III provides that specific sub-agreements must be negotiated between the two Governments in relation to each project which will set forth among other things a detailed specification of the nature of the projects, including a detailed budget and a plan of expenditure. These sub-agreements are at present in course of negotiation. There are in all eight projects, and they are expected to absorb about £5.8 million of the Counterpart Funds. The balance of approximately £340,000 will be held in a reserve fund in accordance with Section 4 of Article III of the agreement to meet either unforeseen increases in the costs of agreed projects, or for other programmes or projects which may be agreed upon. We have agreed to make annual reports to the United States Government on the status of the projects and programmes covered by this agreement.

I have already informed the Dáil in reply to a question by Deputy Collins on the 23rd June last, the nature of the eight projects which have been agreed upon. The scheme most likely to come into operation first is that providing for the subsidisation of the delivery cost of ground limestone. As Deputies will be aware, since March, 1951, the Government have operated a scheme of this nature, and up to 31st March last, the expenditure thereon was approximately £1,150,000. A sum of £600,000 was provided for in the Budget for the current year for this scheme, and this money provided by the Exchequer will continue to be used for the subsidy up to the date on which the sub-agreement comes into operation. Deputies will appreciate that it is essential for higher productivity to increase the application of ground limestone, so that annual losses are made good, and to replenish to some extent the lime reserve of our soil. It is the aim of the Government to integrate liming into the farming system as a practice essential to good farming, and to the building up of soil fertility. To this end it is proposed to spend over the next three years a sum of £1,750,000 of Counterpart Funds on the subsidisation of the delivery cost of limestone, so as to encourage its extensive use among our farmers.

Another scheme which it is hoped will come into operation without undue delay is that for the eradication of bovine tuberculosis. Already since the 1st September last the Government have introduced a scheme for the eradication of bovine tuberculosis in County Sligo and in an area surrounding the parish of Bansha. The moneys for these two schemes have been provided and will continue to be provided from funds made available by the Exchequer. Counterpart Funds will be used on intensive eradication work in County Clare, and in the rest of the country except County Sligo and Bansha. The total sum of money which has been earmarked for use under this project is £700,000.

The third project is intimately linked with the previous one, and is for the provision of grants towards the purchase by creameries and cream separating stations of equipment for the pasteurisation of separated milk, and the sterilisation of milk containers. A sum of £500,000 will be utilised for these purposes.

A fourth programme is intended to provide for the making of grants to assist Muintir na Tire, Macra na Feirme and the Irish Countrywoman's Association. A sum of £30,000 of counterpart money will be made available to this end. A sum of £1,840,000 is being provided for the purpose of setting up an agricultural institute, and a sum of £500,000 for the establishment of an education exchange programme with the United States of America. £350,000 will be provided for defraying in whole or in part the cost of technical assistance projects, and finally, a sum of £130,000 will be provided to make available additional laboratories and equipment for the Institute for Industrial Research and Standards. The details of these schemes are at present being worked out in collaboration with the American authorities, and it is hoped that we shall be in a position to complete the details during the course of the next few months.

The importance of these projects for the development of our economy during the next few years will be evident to Deputies, and there is no need for me to elaborate upon that aspect of the matter at this stage. Before concluding, however, I would like to thank especially the American Ambassador, Mr. Taft, for the unfailing interest which he has shown in these projects, and for the assistance which he has so readily given at all stages in the rather prolonged work of preparation and negotiation which has taken place.

Mr. de Valera

At the outset I would like on behalf of the Opposition to associate myself with the appreciative remarks of the Minister in relation to the American Ambassador here who has been so exceptionally helpful and understanding in regard to the details of the negotiations which have had to take place in connection with the use of this grant money. I think I should also say that we, and I am sure the Government equally, appreciate the generosity of the American people through their Congress in making this grant available. I understand that, although they are expressed now in general terms, that the specific projects such as the ground limestone scheme, the agricultural institute, the eradication of tuberculosis, the grant for the pasteurisation of skimmed milk and the sterilisation of utensils, the grant for technical assistance and so on are all to be substantially the same as were presented by the former Government, our Government, when in office and initialled; in the earlier agreement perhaps they are not precisely the ones that were initialled, but as changed to meet the American view. They are to be substantially, although covered in general terms, the ones that we had put forward. These are the projects the Government intends to pursue. At any rate that is what I gather. I was doubtful about what was intended until I heard the Minister's speech. I take it I am correct in assuming as a result of the Minister's statement that the special agreement which has yet to be negotiated in regard to these particular projects are substantially the same as those we put forward. May I take it I am right in that?

Yes. Some of them had actually been put forward by the Government in 1951 and some of them were put forward by the Deputy's Government.

Mr. de Valera

I am not distinguishing. I am not talking of the genesis of the various projects at all. I am talking about the fact that certain agreements were initialled and later certain changes had to be made to meet the views expressed in the American Senate Committee and, in the new agreement, they are only covered in general terms.

That is all.

Mr. de Valera

But there are no new projects except the scholarship one.

Except the exchange scholarship.

Mr. de Valera

As far as we are concerned, we agree to these projects and we hope that the necessary specific agreements will be concluded without delay. One of the problems in connection with this grant money is the delay. These moneys are there for certain projects but these projects might be undertaken by the State on its own account if that grant were not available and therefore in a sense the existence of the grant might possibly hold up certain projects. From that point of view it is desirable in the public interest generally that these specific agreements with regard to the individual projects should be completed without delay. I take it that each of these projects has got to be sanctioned either by Act of the American Congress or by Joint Resolution of the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Not necessarily. The sanction which was given this year covers these agreements. The details can be worked out with the Administration.

Mr. de Valera

Unfortunately I am not able to read the document but I think the Minister will find in the last section of it that these specific agreements when worked out in detail have also—and it is a pity—to be agreed by either an Act of Congress or by a Joint Resolution of the two Houses. I am afraid that will mean delay because there is always pressure of work in Congress and it is not easy to get these specific proposals agreed to. I think I am right in that.

Article V of this agreement says: "The agreement shall be subject to approval by both Governments and shall become effective on the date of exchange of ratification." As far as the Government of the United States is concerned the agreement is subject to approval by Act or by joint resolution.

Mr. de Valera

That is the agreement as a whole.

The sub-agreements have only to be worked out with the officials of the Administration in America.

Mr. de Valera

I hope the Minister is correct in that interpretation because it will help to shorten the negotiations and bring things to a head much more rapidly. I hope that is so. I was inclined to think that even these specific agreements—the subsidiary agreements—needed an Act or a joint resolution. If that is not so, then my criticism is beside the mark.

I am advised that it is only necessary to ratify the general agreement.

Mr. de Valera

I accept the Minister's assurance. I am glad it is so, but I interpreted it differently. Naturally in these circumstances we should give our approval and vote for the ratification of this agreement. The Minister has spoken about some of the individual projects and I should like to refer for a moment to the lime project. It is essential for our agriculture that liming of the land be increased. I should be sorry to think that this money coming in now would be used simply to relieve the Exchequer of the yearly grant being made. I think it should be utilised by way of addition to the grant because as the Minister knows at the present time the needs in regard to liming are that there is the deficit of some 12,000,000 to 15,000,000 tons of ground limestone. The deficiency in our soil requires that amount at once to bring the condition of the soil up to what would be regarded as a proper condition. In addition to that it is estimated that about 2,000,000 tons of ground limestone are required every year. Last year the amount provided was only about 600,000 tons. I think, therefore, that the Minister will agree that the urgency is very great, that the inducement given to farmers to lime their soil should be continued from the Exchequer and that the money provided under this agreement should be by way of addition and not by way of substitution for the grant next year.

I mentioned the pasteurisation of milk. It is quite obvious that steps to eliminate tuberculosis from cattle is one of the first measures that should be taken and that pasteurisation of skimmed milk is a necessary accompaniment. I believe some creameries are engaged in that work. It is essential, therefore, to get this pasteurisation scheme through with all possible speed. As regards the elimination of tuberculosis, we thought it was one of the schemes with which the United States would like to be associated. It is a big national scheme and one that is very urgent. It was thought that Clare County, mentioned in the agreement, was the best county to begin with but as it was mentioned in the agreement we could not go ahead with that if any of the grant money were to be applied for that purpose. Hence speed is essential there also. Our Government had intended to begin the scheme in County Limerick independent of the grant but I think the present Government has shifted to County Sligo. Again the matter is urgent because things are happening in Britain which may make it essential to have this campaign carried out in a relatively short time. There is no time to be lost so far as that matter is concerned.

Another of the purposes for which the grant was to be used was to assist three organisations, every one of them worthy of support—Muintir na Tíre, the Countrywomen's Association and Macra na Feirme. There should be no trouble about getting an agreement through immediately to make grants available for this purpose.

We come then to the agricultural institute project. We have taken certain steps towards negotiations that seemed to be necessary here as a preliminary. I do not know whether the present Government will follow on the lines that we have been planning or not. The details of our plans are available on the files in the Government offices and it is a question whether the Government wish to proceed on the lines we had intended or not. Here, too, speed is important. I think the Minister should urge strongly upon the American Ambassador the desirability of making the subsidiary agreements without delay. They have been considered already in the United States in general, and in particular, indeed, by representatives of the United States here. They were also examined and, I think, accepted by what is called the F.O.A.—the Foreign Operations Administration—in the United States. In other words, the details are worked out in full. The total estimates of the cost have been made out and submitted. Therefore, now that general agreement of Congress has been received and that the specific projects have been examined, the final negotiations should proceed and be brought to a head very rapidly. I am glad to know that I was wrong in my view that each of these specific subsidiary agreements would come into effect only when they were accepted by an Act of Congress or by a joint resolution. I do not wish to go into the merits of any of the separate proposals as it would scarcely be relevant at this stage—for instance, what the constitution of the agricultural institute should be. I think, however, that that would be outside the terms of the motion. I have great pleasure in agreeing to the motion for ratification.

Deputies may like to have some particulars of the various schemes. Deputy de Valera mentioned the lime subsidy. That scheme was originally started in March, 1951. At that time the number of grinding plants in operation was about 12 and the output amounted to 75,000 tons. The number of plants in operation in July of this year had increased to 40 and the output capacity to 1,500,000 tons. In the first year of operation of the scheme the total consumption rose to 280,000 tons and in 1953-54 the figures were 648,000 tons. The total expenditure up to the 31st March last on lime was £1,150,000. I should say that the first of the sub-agreements which has been submitted to the United States authorities is one dealing with lime and discussions are at present proceeding on the basis of the proposals submitted. The next one which it is hoped to submit in the near future is that dealing with bovine tuberculosis. Deputy de Valera mentioned the fact that it had been intended to start in County Limerick originally. While that intention is being maintained the position is that, when the agreement had not been concluded in time, the Government decided independently to go ahead and the scheme commenced in Clare, Sligo and Bansha on the 1st September last. The Bansha scheme includes an area extending into County Limerick, an area in County Tipperary and, I understand, an adjoining portion of County Cork. The two schemes in County Sligo and Bansha are being financed from the National Development Fund and the cost of the intensive measures in County Clare and some other general measures throughout the country is being met temporarily from the Vote for the Department of Agriculture pending the release of grant counterpart.

The proposal for pasteurisation of milk is also complementary to the one for the eradication of bovine tuberculosis and it is hoped to expedite the consideration of the various projects.

In connection with the establishment of the Agricultural Institute I think, as the Deputies in the House will appreciate, it is a somewhat slower matter to decide on the actual arrangements and it will probably take longer to conclude the details.

I do not think there is anything else in which Deputies are interested at this stage except that I would like once again to express our appreciation of the magnificent assistance which has been afforded by the United States authorities and to express our gratitude to the Ambassador, Mr. Taft, for his help and co-operation and to the officials associated with him.

Motion put and agreed to.
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