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Tuesday, 27 Jan 1959

Vol. 172 No. 8

Adjournment Debate—Wheat Levy.

At Question Time this afternoon a number of questions were addressed to the Minister for Agriculture in connection with the wheat levy. One of these questions was:—

"To ask the Minister for Agriculture when he proposes to restore the wheat levy collected on last year's wheat crop; what compensation it is proposed to make to the farmers; and in what form."

The reply indicates that the Minister hopes to be able to make an announcement in this matter before the end of the present month.

I raise this matter on the Adjournment for the purpose of placing on record the very serious situation in which the wheat-growers find themselves in relation to this matter. Early in November of last year the Fine Gael Party put down a motion moved by Deputy Hughes and seconded by myself, expressing disapproval of the action of the Minister for Agriculture and the Government in the collection of the wheat levy. In the first instance, an undertaking was given to the farmers that the wheat levy would not come into operation unless there was a surplus of wheat. We are now satisfied beyond all doubt that that surplus did not exist and that over £500,000 has been collected forcibly, wrongfully and dishonestly from the farmers and held by the Government. The arguments used on the occasion of the discussion of the Fine Gael motion were so strong and the points were driven home so forcefully by the speakers that the Government decided on the following Friday, as a result of that motion, to request the Minister for Agriculture to make an announcement to the effect that certain reliefs would be given to the farmers from the Wheat Levy Fund.

The farmers were of the opinion, and everybody who read the Minister's statement felt likewise, that no time would be lost in having the 5/9 per barrel levy restored to them. November faded out; December passed; January is now in its final days and we hear in the House from the Minister that by the end of the month he proposes to make a statement. He does not say whether he will give the 5/9 per barrel levy back to the farmers or not.

It goes further than that. We find that from the fund, which reaches a sum in the region of £500,000, that not alone will it be possible to restore the 5/9 per barrel but, because there was not a surplus and because of the very limited acreage grown, it is quite possible that something in the region of 7/- or 7/6 per barrel refund is expected.

Or maybe 12/6.

All the better. That is what we want. The farmers have passed through the hardest and toughest year, financially and otherwise, for over 100 years and are now expected to embark on the sowing of crops, ploughing, and planning their wheat acreage. It is unfair and unreasonable for the Minister not to refund whatever they are to receive so that the money would be of some use to them before they commence their spring work. I would like to know, and I am sure the House would be very pleased to know, the exact amount that will be refunded, whether it is 5/9 or 7/6.

Deputy Cunningham says 12/6.

We would also like to know if there is any other form of compensation in mind, as was indicated by the Minister some time ago, in relation to the serious losses, particularly in the wheat-growing counties, Wexford, Kilkenny, Carlow, East Cork, Laois-Offaly, Dublin and other important wheat-growing centres.

I should like it placed on record again in this House that if there had not been a Fianna Fáil Government in office there would have been no levy imposed on wheat. The oftener that is said, the better. That is a fact. We of the Fine Gael Party would not have imposed this levy of 5/9 per barrel. Therefore, we are calling upon the Government, because on the last occasion that we put down a motion in this House it bore good results. Two days after discussion of the motion, the Minister made a statement. We are now hopeful that as a result of the series of questions asked in the House this afternoon it may be possible to extract from the Minister and the Government information as to the amount of financial relief coming to the farmers. The sooner that statement is made, the better.

It is generally believed that the Minister has sold out the farmers to the millers. It is the opinion of farmers, even the Fianna Fáil farmers who at one time had a certain amount of confidence in the Fianna Fáil Government, particularly in relation to their wheat-growing policy. They have now reached a stage that they believe, and have good grounds for believing, that the Minister has sold them out, lock, stock and barrel, entirely to the millers. The proof of that is the fact that the Minister could take it upon himself to appoint for the millers a public relations officer, a place which has been taken recently by a certain journalist whom he secured in having fired out of the Irish Press.

The Deputy must confine his remarks to the question.

I agree but I just want to convey to the farmers confirmation of their belief that the present Minister has sold them out to the millers. I, and the Party to which I belong, and the farmers now feel that the Minister has sold them completely to the millers, that they have been left to the mercy of the millers, that they are being left to the mercy of the millers for the coming year.

In view of the fact that the country depends entirely on the hardworking, industrious farmers, particularly those engaged in wheat-growing, it is a disgraceful act on the part of the Government to allow a group of individuals like the millers to hold in the palm of their hand those who are the backbone of the nation, the hardworking farmers.

I do not wish to occupy all the time for this motion because Deputy Hughes is anxious to say a few words. We demand that the Minister for Agriculture should repay every penny that he has taken out of the farmers' pockets. The farmers are entitled to that money. They have been wrongfully deprived of 5/9 for every barrel of wheat they grew this year. That is a statement of fact. The sooner the Government makes restitution to the farmers for what they have been wrongfully deprived of, the better.

I would ask the Minister and, in particular, the Government, to provide this financial relief so that it will be available to the farmers by the end of this month. Many farmers have to take conacre. They have to purchase seeds, manures, fertilisers and prepare the ground for the coming year's wheat crop. The farmers have been very grossly deceived by the present Government. We raise this matter, not for the purpose of criticising the Government but in the serious hope of guiding them on the right and proper lines in an attempt to assist the wheat-growing farmers.

I cannot understand the Minister's attitude on the wheat problem since last harvest. The farmers experienced the worst harvest in memory; one would expect that the Minister would be on the side of the farmers but, since the harvest, he seems to have no interest whatever in the farmers or in the problems facing wheat-growers during that time. We all realise that the levy of 5/9 was arranged to sell surplus wheat over a certain tonnage—300,000 tons were estimated as our requirements but we had nothing like that at all. It is believed that 200,000 tons were not produced this year and that proves there was no justification whatever for holding this levy and that the farmers were at least entitled to a refund of 5/9 right away.

We are now four months past the harvest and we still cannot get any statement from the Minister. That is an extraordinary situation. I do not know what is behind the Minister's attitude in not telling the farmers exactly where they stand. Everyone realises the disastrous year through which the farmers have passed. It was the worst year in memory and surely, therefore, they are entitled to their rights, so far as the levy is concerned. The levy was collected to deal with a surplus. We did not have a surplus and as a result of the disastrous harvest, the farmers are justly entitled to compensation and there is ample money to meet such compensation, to an even greater extent than 5/9.

Instead of that, the Minister still says he will make a statement before the end of the month. We are within a few days of the end of the month and he still has not made his statement. It is very important—and the Minister should realise it—that this statement should be made by him. It will have a very important effect on this year's corn crop. The farmers are now planning their grain crop for next year and they want him to say what his policy, and the policy of the Government so far as wheat growing is concerned, will be. It looks as if it is the Minister's job to try to kill wheat growing. That is what it appears to me to be and to the farmers generally down the country. He cannot even at this late hour tell us in the Dáil what is to be the refund to the farmers, the refund they are entitled to and which is their right. It is a most unreasonable attitude which the Minister has taken up here this evening.

I addressed a question to the Minister for Agriculture at Question Time to-day, asking him to reply to three points: (a) the reason for the delay in sanctioning a refund of the wheat levy and other price deductions to wheat producers; (b) the amount per barrel which will be refunded; and (c) the date on which farmers will receive payment. The Minister did not reply to any one of these points, except to say that he hoped he would be able to make an announcement on the matter before the end of the month. It is the kind of undertaking he gave before in connection with the announcement of milk prices.

We know very well that the Minister does not like the farmers and that they do not like him. That stretches back over a number of years, but now, in his office as Minister for Agriculture, his dog in the manger attitude towards them has no justification in relation to this wheat fund. This was a live issue during the summer session—the question of the setting up of a price-cutting board, a board which was set up to take 5/9 a barrel, in addition to other deductions, from the price of wheat which would go into a fund in order to level out the price, if a surplus had been produced. Approximately £500,000 was taken from the farmers in that way.

Most of the wheat was delivered before October and certainly before the end of November. We have been asking the Minister what is the reason for the delay, but he will not tell us. Obviously, the Department have done their work and probably they have received the necessary report from the Wheat Board. The Minister has also had consultations with the farmers' organisations so that it is obvious that he could give the money back to the farmers to-morrow, if he were prepared to do so.

Let us see what problems are created by this delay. Does the Minister know, for instance, that the wheat growers last year spent about £500,000 on combines and that many of those combines were purchased through hire-purchase arrangements. This money is being withheld from the farmers who could use it in order to pay their instalments. In addition to that £500,000 spent on, I think, 500 combines, there was a further £500,000 spent on harvesting equipment and that also was obtained on the instalment system either through the Agricultural Credit Corporation or the various finance corporations. In addition to the wheat levy of 5/9, those who took in the wheat applied deductions which never were applied before—"screenings" and other descriptions were given as excuses for the deductions—and all these deductions were taken from the net price paid to the farmers.

It was shown very clearly to the Minister that there was no legal authority or right to hold that money back from the wheat growers because it was intended to have it in the event of a surplus, which did not result from the harvest. There has been no surplus. We have seen that arrangements have been made to import vast quantities of wheat this year; probably more wheat will be imported during this year than was imported at any time since before the war, with the exception of the war years.

By his stubborn silence in relation to this matter in the last few months, the Minister has shown that he has no sympathy whatever for the wheat growers; but he took advantage of his position in past years by making these matters issues at elections on several occasions. It is very disappointing for many of the wheat growers to find now that the Minister and the Government are not prepared to stand over the undertakings given on the radio on the eve of the general election. At that time, the farmers expected to get a better price than they were getting at the time of the announcement on the radio. Instead of that, the average price has been reduced by more than 15/- a barrel since the night of that announcement by the Minister for Finance.

There is also the question of having the cash for the purchase of seeds and fertilisers. The position this year is not the same as it was last year, because many of the seedsmen will be unable to give the credit which they gave in previous years, owing to last year's disastrous harvest, and the fact that many of them even now have not been paid in respect of the wheat harvest of 1958. They are faced now with farmers trying to get seeds on credit again this year, but they are unable to give the necessary credit. This cash which is being held back from the farmers would enable them to purchase the necessary seed wheat, the price of which is very high this year.

I feel the Minister is just showing contempt for the wheat growers and the House by remaining mute of malice. It is obvious that he is one of the few persons in the Fianna Fáil Party who has shown his opposition, his determined opposition to wheat growing. Many of them have pretended in the past to be in favour of it, but we have heard very little from them since last summer when this Wheat Board was set up.

The Minister is entitled to ten minutes for his reply and three Deputies have spoken already.

I just want to join my voice to the voices of Deputies on this side of the House in appealing to the Minister in a very straightforward and honest way. I want to ask him to see his way to making a decision on this problem to-night. The reason I do so is the question I asked the Minister on 7th January and to which he referred in his reply to-day. On that day, I asked a supplementary question. I said that the wheat-growing farmers were very anxious to know whether they were going to get back 5/9, 6/-, 7/6 or even, as Deputy Cunningham says, 12/6. I do not mind. They would like to know what they are going to get back.

I thank the Minister for allowing me the few minutes in which to put my point of view. As an auctioneer, engaged in this business over the past five or six months, I know—and the Minister himself knows—that the farmers who take land or let land, or even those who own land, want to know what they are to do for the next 12 months. They would now like to know what the position is in regard to last year's harvest.

There are only four days until the end of the month. In answer to my question on 7th January, the Minister said he would make his statement before the end of the month. In all fairness and honesty to the farmers, the Minister should make that statement now.

On 7th January in this House, in reply to a Parliamentary Question by the Deputy who has just spoken, I gave the reply:

"I hope to be able to make an announcement in this matter before the end of the present month."

I am still hopeful.

What is stopping you?

Crookedness—nothing else.

Might I ask whether they will get the refund or not?

This is another example of contempt.

The Dáil adjourned at 8 p.m. until 3 p.m. on Wednesday, 28th January, 1959.

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