For the record, the question asked today is as follows:
To ask the Minister for Local Government the present position in relation to the installation of sewerage service in the area of Turnapin and Cloghran, County Dublin.
The Minister's reply was:
Dublin County Council's application for a loan to finance this and a number of smaller schemes is under examination in conjunction with the overall availability of capital for works of this kind during the present year.
It is because of the appalling delay which has occurred in relation to the provision of the very elementary facilities of toilets at Turnapin cottages and a number of other places on the perimeter of the city that I am impelled to raise the question here for further discussion and elucidation.
Turnapin cottages are 38 county council dwellings situated about half a mile beyond Santry village. I suppose it is a distance of about three or four miles from O'Connell Street and these 38 cottages, in some of which there are two families living, have no toilet facilities of any kind. It is a sad reflection on the local authority and the Minister for Local Government, who is charged with the general care of matters of this nature, that this should be so. Any Deputies who have to do with rural areas will know the complexity of this problem, particularly if they are familiar with the situation where you have groups of houses together. Sewage disposal is a matter of digging holes in the back garden and burying the sewage.
In the case of this scheme at Turnapin, which was constructed in or about 1936, these primitive methods of sanitation have been in operation since that time. That is 30 years ago. I remember when I entered this Dáil 18 years ago, I raised this matter of the need for something to be done at Turnapin and other similar places. On a number of occasions down through the years, I have brought the situation there to the attention of the House.
I did not have time to look at all the records to discover the exact number of Dáil questions I have asked. Since 1963, at any rate, I have asked five questions concerning this matter, details of which are given in the Dáil Debates relating to 5th February, 1963, 16th May, 1963, 11th June, 1963, 12th February, 1964 and again on 10th February this year. The last occasion I asked a question was in February of this year. The question was regarding Turnapin in County Dublin. The Minister said:
I approved of a tender for the provision of water and sewerage facilities to Turnapin cottages on 18th June, 1965.
That is a year ago. The Minister went on:
A request by Dublin County Council on 19th November last for a loan to finance this and other similar schemes is under examination.
That was the position on 10th February, 1966 and the reply which I received today from the Minister to my question on the matter indicates absolutely no progress on the situation as it was then.
It is scandalous that this matter should have been neglected by the Minister and by the county council in the manner in which it has been neglected. Apart from the cottages at Turnapin, application made by the county council for a loan of £52,000 which was referred to by the Minister in reply to my previous question also concerned cottages at Malahide, at Newtown, Coolock, which is about the same distance from O'Connell Street as Turnapin, Kinsealy, Malahide and Bremore Cottages, Balbriggan. In all, it amounts to £52,000. In all, I would assume the number of families for this loan of £52,000 to come near 100—in round figures, about 400 people, between 400 and 500 people. The position appears to be, from the Minister's reply, that he is unable or unwilling to provide this amount of £52,000 to provide lavatories, to put it in simple language, for people who are urgently in need of them. It strikes me as ironic that we have no difficulty in finding over £8,000 and £67 a week, £3,000 a year, for a public official for alleged public services without any difficulty at all, but we cannot find this relatively small capital amount to provide the very basic essentials for 500 people. I have referred so many times to the need for this sanitation that anything I say here can only be repetition of what I have already said on so many occasions.
The tenants of Turnapin cottages were canvassed two years ago by the local authorities and asked would they be agreeable to making a contribution towards the cost of the provision of sewerage services to their houses—they had water—and almost to a man they replied in the affirmative and signed documents expressing their willingness to make the contribution asked of them. That was two years ago. As far as the county council was concerned, at least in November last the only thing that remained was sanction for the loan which they sought from the Local Loans Fund, but the Department has been stalling on this issue since November, and the people of Turnapin, who have no way of knowing the details of administration in regard to the financing of projects such as this, are naturally irate, if not indeed enraged, at the apparent complete lack of concern displayed by the Department as to their plight. There have been many schemes of an extravagant nature discussed in this House at various times emanating from the Government, prestige schemes which have been claimed to enlarge our stature amongst the nations of the world, and it is an indication of how far we have got from reality when right on the fringe of the capital city, we have many families without this very basic facility of a toilet.
In raising this matter, I want to urge upon the Minister the need for immediate action to have the money provided, because that is all that remains after long and weary waiting. The position has now been achieved whereby plans have been drawn up, tenders have been advertised by the council and accepted, and sanctioned, I understand, by the Department, and the position is that the council merely waits sanction for the loan of £52,000, a very small amount in the context of our vast revenue of something in the neighbourhood of quarter of a billion pounds. A sum of £52,000 would appear to me and to the people concerned, in the light of what is happening elsewhere, to be a very modest sum, and yet withal, the Minister, as I say, has been putting off and putting off and putting off the provision of this money by suggesting that the Department is examining the scheme and the scheme is still under examination. Nobody will accept this excuse from the Department for the delay.
We know very well that this is not an intricate or complex scheme. It is a small one, and even a layman—I mean a person without any technical qualifications—could, I am sure, satisfy himself with all the plans there are available.