Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 5 Mar 1970

Vol. 244 No. 14

Written Answers. - Forestry Division.

26.

Mr. Tully

asked the Minister for Lands if he will give the following information regarding employment and service-pay of forestry workers as at a recent date: (a) the number in receipt of 5/- service-pay, 10/- service-pay, 15/- service-pay, 20/- service-pay and no service-pay, (b) the total number of employees and (c) each group as a percentage of the total number of employees.

Minister for Lands (Mr. S. Flanagan)

With regard to (a) of the Deputy's question the position on 3rd February, 1970, the latest date for which figures are available, was:

930 men in receipt of	5/-
872,,,,,, ,,	10/-
612,,,,,, ,,	15/-
384,,,,,, ,,	20/-

The number of men not in receipt of service pay was 702. The total number of men is 3,500 and the percentage in each category is 27 per cent; 25 per cent; 17 per cent; 11 per cent and 20 per cent respectively.

27.

Mr. Tully

asked the Minister for Lands if he will give the following particulars of gratuities paid to forestry workers in the past three years: the ten smallest gratuities, the ten median gratuities, and the ten highest gratuities, together with the retiring wage and number of service years in each case.

Minister for Lands (Mr. S. Flanagan)

To compile the information sought by the Deputy would involve inordinate expenditure of staff time in research on records which have been put away for storage. I propose instead to supply particulars of all gratuities paid to forestry workers during 1969. Following are the details:

Forestry Workers

Particulars of gratuities paid in 1969

Reckonable Service	Weekly Pay	Gratuity Paid
	£	s.	d.	£	s.	d.
7 years	11	17	5	83	1	11
43 ,,	12	17	5	553	8	11
37 ,,	11	1	—	408	17	—
8,,	9	8	6	75	8	—
14 ,,	12	12	5	176	13	10
11 ,,	9	11	—	105	1	—
10 ,,	12	7	5	123	14	2
33 ,,	12	17	5	424	14	9
19 ,,	11	17	5	225	10	11
17 ,,	12	12	5	214	11	1
12 ,,	12	12	5	151	9	—
41 ,,	12	17	5	527	14	1
13 ,,	12	7	5	160	16	5
19 ,,	12	12	5	239	15	11
14 ,,	12	7	5	173	3	10
8 ,,	12	2	5	96	19	4
27 ,,	12	17	5	347	10	3
14 ,,	12	7	5	173	3	10
29 ,,	12	17	5	373	5	1
12 ,,	12	12	5	151	9	—
35 ,,	12	17	5	450	9	7
14 ,,	12	7	5	173	3	10
39 ,,	12	17	5	501	19	3
31 ,,	12	17	5	398	19	11
9 years	12	7	5	111	6	9
45 ,,	12	17	5	579	3	9
43 ,,	12	17	5	553	8	11
11 ,,	12	7	5	136	1	7
12 ,,	12	7	5	148	9	—
14 ,,	12	7	5	173	3	10
14 ,,	12	7	5	173	3	10
14 ,,	12	7	5	173	3	10
35 ,,	13	2	5	459	4	7
11 ,,	12	7	5	136	1	7
7 ,,	12	2	5	84	16	11
19 ,,	12	2	5	230	5	11
15 ,,	11	17	5	178	1	3
13 ,,	11	17	5	154	6	5
14 ,,	11	17	5	166	3	10
21 ,,	12	14	7	267	6	3
43 ,,	12	19	7	558	2	1
19 ,,	12	12	5	239	15	11
33 ,,	12	17	5	424	14	9
33 ,,	12	17	5	424	14	9
15 ,,	12	19	7	194	13	9
13 ,,	11	17	5	154	6	5
8 ,,	12	4	7	97	16	8
7 ,,	12	4	7	85	12	1
13 ,,	13	14	7	178	9	7
25 ,,	13	2	5	328	0	5
23 ,,	12	12	5	290	5	7
11 ,,	13	14	7	151	0	5
21 ,,	13	19	7	293	11	3
41 ,,	14	9	7	593	12	11
45 ,,	13	4	7	595	6	3
14 ,,	12	9	7	174	14	2
9 ,,	12	2	5	109	1	9
21 ,,	12	12	5	265	0	9
43 ,,	12	19	7	558	2	1
21 ,,	12	12	5	265	0	9
15 ,,	12	14	7	190	18	9
31 ,,	14	4	7	441	2	1
15 ,,	12	19	7	194	13	9
13 ,,	13	14	7	178	9	7
11 ,,	12	7	5	136	1	7
13 ,,	13	14	7	178	9	7
7 ,,	12	2	5	84	16	11
19 ,,	13	19	7	265	12	1
19 ,,	15	4	7	289	7	1
15 ,,	13	19	7	209	13	9

28.

Mr. Tully

asked the Minister for Lands if he will state the amount of pension which would have been paid to each of the retired forestry workers referred to in a reply to Question 27 of today if the pension scheme for un-established State employees offered to the trade unions in November, 1969, had been in operation, expressing the pension payable as a percentage of the actual retiring wage on which the gratuity, in each case, was calculated.

Minister for Lands (Mr. S. Flanagan)

The information sought by the Deputy would involve a substantial amount of nugatory work on purely hypothetical calculations and the expenditure of official time involved in making such calculations would not be justified.