I move:
"That Deputy Dr. Noel Browne be suspended from the service of the House."
Return to Writs: Donegal-Leitrim and South County Dublin. - Suspension of Member.
Question put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 69; Níl, 14.
Tá.
- Aiken, Frank.
- Allen, Lorcan.
- Andrews, David.
- Barrett, Sylvester.
- Blaney, Neil.
- Boylan, Terence.
- Brady, Philip A.
- Brennan, Joseph.
- Briscoe, Ben.
- Brosnan, Seán.
- Burke, Patrick J.
- Carter, Frank.
- Carty, Michael.
- Childers, Erskine.
- Colley, George.
- Collins, Gerard.
- Connolly, Gerard C.
- Cowen, Bernard.
- Cronin, Jerry.
- Crowley, Flor.
- Cunningham, Liam.
- Davern, Noel.
- Delap, Patrick.
- de Valera, Vivion.
- Dowling, Joe.
- Lynch, John.
- McEllistrim, Thomas.
- MacSharry, Ray.
- Meaney, Thomas.
- Molloy, Robert.
- Moore, Seán.
- Moran, Michael.
- Nolan, Thomas.
- Noonan, Michael.
- O'Connor, Timothy.
- Fahey, Jackie.
- Faulkner, Pádraig.
- Fitzpatrick, Tom (Dublin Central).
- Foley, Desmond.
- Forde, Paddy.
- French, Seán.
- Gallagher, James.
- Geoghegan, John.
- Gibbons, Hugh.
- Gibbons, James.
- Gogan, Richard P.
- Haughey, Charles.
- Healy, Augustine A.
- Herbert, Michael.
- Hillery, Patrick J.
- Hilliard, Michael.
- Hussey, Thomas.
- Kenneally, William.
- Kitt, Michael F.
- Lalor, Patrick J.
- Lemass, Noel T.
- Lenehan, Joseph.
- Lenihan, Brian.
- Loughnane, William A.
- Lynch, Celia.
- O'Leary, John.
- O'Malley, Des.
- Power, Patrick.
- Sherwin, Seán.
- Smith, Michael.
- Smith, Patrick.
- Timmons, Eugene.
- Tunney, Jim.
- Wyse, Pearse.
Níl
- Browne, Noel.
- Cluskey, Frank.
- Coughlan, Stephen.
- Cruise-O'Brien, Conor.
- Desmond, Barry.
- Kavanagh, Liam.
- Keating, Justin.
- Murphy, Michael P.
- O'Connell, John F.
- O'Donovan, John.
- O'Leary, Michael.
- Pattison, Séamus.
- Thornley, David.
- Tully, James.
Tellers: Tá, Deputies Andrews and Meaney; Níl, Deputies Cluskey and M. O'Leary.
Question declared carried.
I must respectfully ask you to allow me to make the case I was making when I was interrupted.
The House has decided and the Deputy must leave the House.
A decision to set aside the parliamentary institutions of any State is a decision of such seriousness——
The Deputy must leave the Chamber in accordance with the decision of the House.
——that it is only permissible when the revolutionary overthrow of the State is imminent.
The Deputy must leave the Chamber in accordance with the decision of the House.
(Interruptions.)
On a point of order——
I see no difference in the decision to set aside those institutions and that of the young Maoists in refusing to recognise the State or its institutions.
I would ask the Captain to escort Deputy Dr. Browne from the Chamber.
The Captain of the Guard escorted Deputy Dr. Browne from the Chamber.
A Cheann Comhairle——
The Finance Bill.
I want to associate myself with the action of my colleagues as vehemently as I can in regard to this act of coercion by the Taoiseach. I have lived through this in the past and I know and the Taoiseach knows where it will lead: to hunger strikes, executions and something very short of civil war.
(Interruptions.)
The Taoiseach is now moving in the direction of civil war because of his own cowardice. He is afraid to debate this matter or to handle it in a true and diplomatic way.
Would Deputy Coughlan——
It was not for nothing that the Distinguished Strangers' Gallery was packed today.
Would the Deputy please allow me?
(Interruptions.)
Major Chichester Clark, the Prime Minister of Northern Ireland, proclaimed that Jack Lynch is the greatest Republican Ireland has ever seen. Bravo for Chichester Clark.
Would Deputy Coughlan please allow me for a moment? If he persists I will have to ask him to leave the House.
We want a debate.
We will not allow this to be swept under the carpet. Young men were interned and allowed to die on hunger strike.
In view of Deputy Coughlan's disorderly behaviour I would ask the Taoiseach to name the Deputy.
On a point of order——
There can be no discussion.
I will uphold the rights of democracy. We will have no coercion.
I would ask the Taoiseach to name Deputy Coughlan.
We will have no executions and no hunger strikes such as we had before.
(Interruptions.)
Sit down and abstain.
There can be no discussion.
Before the Taoiseach moves that motion would he not realise that this matter could be solved by agreeing to a debate?
He is afraid.
What is he funking? What is he afraid of?
A Deputy
Not of you.
I am afraid of no man on those benches, I can assure the Deputy.
Give us a debate.
Give us a debate today. The Taoiseach is afraid of a debate.
(Interruptions.)
I had already instructed the Chief Whip of this party to see if we could arrange for an adjournment debate when the legislative business now before the House was through. That could be done in conjunction with a debate on the Taoiseach's Estimate. It will be wide open on that Estimate to discuss anything.
That is next week.
We want a debate today.
We want a debate now.
(Interruptions.)
Order.
This is the most important matter to come before the House since Deputy Aiken introduced the Bill dealing with the glasshouse.
We cannot have a discussion. I have asked the Taoiseach to name Deputy Coughlan.
We stand for what Republicanism means.
I comply with your request, a Cheann Comhairle.
Would you reconsider your ruling in view of the Taoiseach's statement?