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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 10 Jun 1975

Vol. 281 No. 12

Private Members' Business. - Footwear Industry: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann notes with deep concern the serious decline in the footwear industry with consequent heavy unemployment, and calls on the Government to take immediate steps to halt the decline and to get the industry going again.

I have here a report in The Irish Independent of today headed “Ban on Cheap Clothing Imports”, a matter which was raised by Deputy O'Malley at Question Time. I understand now that the report is not correct so I will not deal with it any further. The present situation in the footwear industry is frightening, with large scale redundancies, rising unemployment, factories going into liquidation and factories closing down. I must say that it is a matter of deep regret to me that there should be any necessity to raise this matter once again in Private Members' Time because I hoped the Minister would have taken effective action in the intervening months since the matter was previously discussed. About six months ago, I raised the matter here and pointed out the very serious problems facing the industry at that time. I underlined for the Minister the need for urgent action and pointed to the consequences of the failure by the Minister and the Government to take the necessary steps to save an industry which employed very large numbers of our people.

Apart from agreeing at the time that the situation was a serious one and taking a small number of minor decisions which had no perceptible effect on the industry, no further action was taken and the whole industry is now sliding into the chaos which we predicted if the necessary steps were not taken. The lack of initiative on the part of the Minister is deplorable and I fail to understand it. Warning after warning was given by us as to the trends clearly visible at that time in the industry. Warning after warning was given by the Irish Shoe and Leather Workers' Union and the Federation of Footwear Manufacturers. Indeed, warnings were hardly necessary at that time because redundancies were becoming very apparent and were growing rapidly. None of the warnings and signs had any influence on the Government or the Minister and no decisions of any consequence were taken.

Immediately previous to the last discussion we had six months ago, the footwear workers marched through Dublin in protest against the inactivity of the Minister and recently they picketed stores which carried enormous consignments of foreign footwear. The footwear operatives are a highly responsible body of people, with little liking for parades and pickets, but the fact that they did parade and picket illustrates the grave anxiety which permeates the industry as a whole and also indicates the fact that they have lost all confidence in the Minister and the Government with regard to taking any effective action. In a report of the annual general meeting of Woodington's boot factory in Drogheda in The Irish Independent of 29th May, I note that the managing director stated that the company had had discussions with the Minister for Industry and Commerce on their problems but that no remedial action had so far been taken. This is typical—nice, cosy and friendly discussions, with promises of action and nothing done, and I do not think it is any wonder that the workers in this industry are bordering on despair.

The footwear industry to all intents and purposes was set up by the Fianna Fáil Government in the early thirties as part of their industrial development policy. From a weak beginning, it thrived over the years, employing large numbers of people and my constituency of Louth benefited immensely from this policy and became what might be termed the headquarters of the footwear industry in Ireland. The industry in fact was the greatest single employer in the county. When I spoke here six months ago the cracks were showing but nevertheless we still had reasonably good employment in the industry. Today one large factory has closed, one has gone into liquidation and two other large factories are on short-time working. If I might briefly refer to the factory which has gone into liquidation, Donaghy's of Drogheda, it was established in 1932 and gave very considerable and worthwhile employment to a number of generations of workers in Drogheda. A valuable pool of skills was built up over the years, and now the factory is about to close, with resultant loss not only to the workers but to Drogheda and the economy of the country as a whole, without the slightest effort being made by the Government to help.

When one recognises the tremendous effort both workers and management put into the development of the footwear industry over the years, the present position is nothing short of calamitous. The skills acquired by our workers, allied to the exceptional technological developments which took place in the industry over the years, had placed the standards in the industry here on a par with standards abroad. This was proved by the fact that there was built up here over the years a very considerable export trade which now regrettably has been reduced to a trickle because of unfair competition about which the Government have done nothing. It is a fact that at present the industry has reached crisis point and I sincerely hope it has not passed the point of no return.

Protests by the footwear union, by the employers, by the newspapers, by other unions and by the Fianna Fáil Party have failed to get any response from the Minister, who is apparently satisfied that his only contribution to the health of this industry is to say that the EEC rules are there and he can do nothing. In an earlier debate on this subject, he stated that the economic consequences of breaking the EEC rules would be disastrous for Ireland, but we pointed out at that time that the consequences of doing nothing to curb the flood of cheap imports of footwear from low-cost countries would be much more serious. Everybody, except the Government evidently, could see that the footwear and textile industries were set on a course which could only result in collapse and the consequences of their inactivity are now with us. The simple facts are that not one of the EEC countries adhered strictly to the rules when their own vital interests were at stake and in circumstances in which the footwear industry here is facing extinction, extraordinary measures have to be taken.

As a result of the pressures from us, the Minister flew to Brussels and requested an EEC task force to come here to investigate the footwear and textile industries. The task force arrived, spent some time examining the situation, and in effect told the Minister that the remedy lay in his own hands, something which we had been telling him for quite a while, but the Minister still sticks to his guns and says he cannot do anything, that the rules of the EEC are the problem and he cannot do anything about them. In fact, I have no doubt that in the EEC they are beginning to wonder if we are not too good to be true. The really disturbing part of this whole saga is that many of the jobs in the footwear industry are not simply temporarily lost, they are gone forever, and the sad aspect of it is that so far as I can see this need not have happened if decisions had been taken at the proper time.

Apart altogether from the question of whether rules and regulations should be broken or not, the simple fact is that the rules and regulations were made by the member countries, either by the Six or by the Nine, and therefore these rules and regulations can be changed if they are unjust or if the EEC countries desire for whatever reason. We pressed the Minister on many occasions to propose such changes as were necessary, to pursue such propositions vigorously and to enlist all the support he could possibly get in relation to them.

Quite recently I watched a television programme on the EEC Referendum in Britain in which Mr. Roy Hattersley, who is a pro-Market Labour Government Minister, discussed entry with three anti-Market intellectuals. One of them asked him, in the event of staying in what would Britain do if the continued existence of one of her major industries was in jeopardy because of Common Market regulations which the other members were not willing to alter. He replied that when Italy was in serious economic difficulties the EEC recognised this and did not press for the full implementation of the regulations in the circumstances.

Why can we not adopt a similar attitude to that adopted by Italy, when one of our most labour-intensive industries is in great danger, where large numbers of footwear workers are now redundant and where many jobs are now lost? I would remind the Minister that when we were speaking here on a Private Members' motion on the footwear industry six months ago, he cited Italy as being an example of what can happen a country, to its detriment, which breaks EEC rules. Might I now point out to the Minister that this same Italy has succeeded in cutting its inflation rate since then from 24 per cent to 12 per cent, while we are at the top of the inflation league.

It should not be necessary to refer again to the underlying problems facing the industry, but in view of the Minister's lack of initiative I think I should once again recount the situation. There is a flood of cheap imports coming on the home market from low-cost countries such as Taiwan, Korea and Hong Kong, and there are large supplies coming in from Comecon countries, all of which are coming either directly or through the United Kingdom. Evidently all that is required to tranship these products and dump them on our market is to make slight alteration in them and repack them. The low standard of living, the low raw materials costs and the low wages paid in the low-cost countries constitute unfair competition. This must be overcome by changing the appropriate EEC regulations and by changing, where necessary, our own anti-dumping laws.

I suggested previously that we should change, at least for a time, from the tariff system to the quota system. Tariffs of even 100 per cent, which of course are not permissible at that level because of other trade agreements, have no effect when the cost of the imported shoes is very low. Therefore we should deal with the problem by restricting imports to an acceptable level through the quota system. I have no doubt the Minister will reply that this also is impossible, but I would remind him that when the Irish footwear industry needed time to adjust to the situation arising from the change-over to the tariff system under the Anglo-Irish Free Trade Area Agreement, the then Minister for Industry and Commerce, Deputy George Colley, reverted to the quota system for a couple of years, a change which had very beneficial consequences for the industry at the time. The British did not like the reimposition of the quotas and they told us so, but the industry got from the decision the boost it needed. I might add that the British, who protested then, had little hesitation in applying levies to our goods going into the United Kingdom when it suited their purpose, in spite of the agreement.

The objective of the Comecon countries in exporting to the West is to obtain currency for the purpose of buying capital goods, machinery and so on from the countries of the West. Few people have any doubt that the footwear from these countries is subsidised. Subsidisation is difficult to prove, and our dumping laws need further scrutiny in this respect. I could give an example; an all-leather shoe, with a leather upper, leather sole, leather lining, can be imported for about £1.70 from the Comecon countries. A similar shoe manufactured here would cost about £10. You would not buy the sole of the shoe for the price of the finished article being imported. How is this done? I strongly advocate that the countries such as those I have mentioned should have to substantiate their costs. We must insist that they, as the importer, must inform us as to the cost of the raw materials, the production costs, the transport costs and so on. If we had this information it would be a relatively simple matter to identify dumping, which it quite clearly is.

We must also bear in mind that goods of this nature dumped into Britain are also a very serious source of danger to us because of her capacity for unloading unwanted footwear on us. Because of her wider trade commitments with the Comecon countries, she may not wish to disturb their equanimity by requiring them to substantiate their costings, but if she does not, then we must keep a wary eye on imports from Britain, especially through the north of Ireland.

As things stand in regard to dumping, the onus is on the complainant to prove that dumping has taken place. This is imposing an almost impossible task on the complainant. As I say, the onus should be placed on the importer or on the country of origin, where a clearly justifiable complaint is made, to prove that the footwear is not being dumped.

The Merchandise Marks (Restriction on Importation of Footwear) Order, 1971, was made by my colleague, Deputy Lalor, when Minister for Industry and Commerce. By this order the importation, by way of trade, of footwear was prohibited unless the goods bore at importation an indication of origin marked on the goods and consisting of the words "Made in" followed by the name of the country in which the goods were manufactured. In all cases the goods had to be marked indelibly, legibly and conspicuously on the outer surface.

I would like to know if this order is being adhered to. Is it being adhered to in relation to container loads of footwear crossing the Border? Does the Minister propose to extend the order so as to ensure that the footwear concerned will continue to carry the indication of the country of origin at retail level? We have been advocating for some time that imports of footwear should be monitored. We recognise that the effect on the imports will be relatively slight, but at least our manufacturers will have a clearer view of the problem and it will give them some easement in the present frightening situation. The French have operated such a scheme for some time, even though the EEC rules did not allow it. This year the EEC have consented to a surveillance scheme such as the French operate, and I understand it is applicable to imports from the EEC countries as well as to imports from outside the EEC. It has been open to us for quite a while to adopt this arrangement; yet we are in a situation in which the Minister, in reply to Deputy Leonard today, said he hoped to put such a scheme into operation soon. I would have hoped and expected that the scheme would have been in operation long ago.

The visa technique system is operated in France. The importer must apply to the French Government for a visa before he can place an order. The visa takes from two to eight weeks to obtain, and I think we can take it that a visa for sensitive goods would hardly be forthcoming in less than the eight weeks. There is another system whereby the importer places his order abroad and simply applies for a licence to import the goods. Whatever merit there is in the French system, the other is useless, and I hope he is not proposing to bring in the second system I have mentioned. The French Government have never had any compunction in protecting any sensitive sector of its industry. For example, on the 25th April, this year the French Premier stated that his Government recognised the important role of the textile industry, particularly in current difficult trading conditions, and that he intended to support that industry. He also stated that the French Government would press the EEC to conclude a bi-lateral agreement for the limitation of textile imports from third countries as quickly as possible and that this would prevent what he termed "the uncontrolled and brutal influx of textile products on the French market from countries whose trading practices were so different from those of France". What is to prevent us from adopting a similar attitude in relation to our footwear and textile products?

Further, in 1968 the French, with the consent of the EEC, introduced quota restrictions. Some of the reasons given then for permitting the French to do so were that their production costs had risen rapidly due to a number of factors and that France had a balance of payments problem. The French invoked articles 104 and 108 of the Rome Treaty. We are now in a comparable situation. Our footwear production costs are rising much more rapidly than in any other EEC country and we have a balance of payments problem. Surely it is not necessary for me, when our footwear industry is facing disaster, to urge the Minister to consider what he can do in a similar way.

He might also concern himself about article 137 of the Treaty of Accession which gives permission to us to take measures in cases of extreme urgency to protect our industry up to December, 1975. I need not stress that we are in a situation of extreme urgency in regard to the footwear industry. The call for urgent and effective action has come from many sources but has met with no response apart from lectures on the Common Market rules and regulations and, as in the last speech, taunts about Fianna Fáil activity at the time of the EEC referendum here, as if Ireland could live in splendid isolation had we not entered the EEC, and leave ourselves with tariff barriers being erected against us by practically all western European countries. I think the result of the British referendum should put paid to that argument.

There is another aspect of this problem which has done untold damage to our footwear industry. We have a frightening inflationary situation, being now well at the top of the EEC inflationary league. This Government have neither the courage nor political will to do their duty and take effective measures to curb inflation. They hold highly-publicised Government meetings but if meetings could solve the problems these would have been solved long ago. Inflation is playing havoc with Irish-made footwear at home and it has destroyed a once-creditable export trade. Footwear manufacturers who had a good export trade six months ago when we last debated this subject now inform me that in some cases this trade has dried up completely while in others it is reduced to a trickle. Foreign agents who used come here to view our products and buy them no longer come. They ring from London to say however high the quality of our footwear may be our prices are no longer competitive and there is no point in coming to see it. This is a frightening situation.

A pointer to the seriousness of the situation is found in comparing the change in recent years in the relation between imports and exports of footwear. In 1970 our exports were 1.8 million pairs and imports 1.6 million pairs, a balance in favour of exports. In 1974 our exports were 3 million pairs and our imports 5.3 million pairs, a balance very much in favour of imports. Our exports this year will be very much lower and the trading imbalance much greater. The number of manufacturing units is growing less each year and the number unemployed increasing very rapidly, not in small groups but in hundreds. I had intended to give the number of factories left but as such factories are closing now fairly frequently that is not possible. Some time ago manufacturers had pinned their faith on increased exports—and with some considerable success until recently. Of the main exporting factories one is closed, one is threatened with imminent closure and the remainder are on short time.

I advocated a "Buy Irish" campaign when I last spoke on a similar motion. During that debate the Minister said he was about to launch a "Buy Irish" campaign that very week which he believed would be effective. Apart from going through the motions of declaring a "Buy Irish" campaign open, there was no follow-up and the whole thing fizzled out in a couple of weeks. For most people it never got off the ground. I understand that the princely sum of £3,000 was spent on the programme. At that time a new approach to a "Buy Irish" campaign had been promised but it came to nothing. There is no better indication of the paucity of ideas and lack of will to pursue any worthwhile plan or strategy by the Government than their lack of initiative and staying power in this venture when the employment of so many people depended on a vigorous and sustained "Buy Irish" and "Sell Irish" campaign.

We have now reached a really frightening situation regarding stocking of Irish goods particularly by many large supermarkets in this city and by many supermarkets in large stores in larger towns throughout the country. From personal observation and research conducted by me and some of my colleagues I have found it is virtually impossible to find either Irish footwear or textiles in the large stores, not to speak of buying Irish goods. These stores are packed from floor to ceiling with foreign products, many from low-cost countries and some from our nearer neighbours. The problem is not so much buying as finding Irish goods. Very often a specific request must be made before Irish goods are shown to a customer. Every effort is made to encourage the purchase of foreign goods and often it is only after a struggle that one can purchase an Irish article. This is a disgraceful situation and how the owner of any store who has the slightest interest in the country's economy and welfare can persist in this kind of national sabotage is beyond me. It is past the time when a long hard look should be taken at the whole position including, specifically, profit margins on imported footwear. I do not wish to tar all large stores or supermarkets with the same brush—some do their best—but in general the situation is extremely bad and a thorough investigation of the reasons for it must be made, followed by a constructive approach, if the vital industry now being discussed here is not to go to the wall.

I understand that for some time after the last lengthy discussion here on this matter many large stores placed extra orders for Irish footwear but that after a relatively short time they reverted to their original practice of buying vast quantities of foreign goods. I hope this discussion will again have the effect of ensuring increased purchases from our own factories but that this time it will be a continuing process.

I should like to deal with a case that is made, perhaps with some validity regarding this matter and to suggest how it could be met. First, let me say that prices are escalating; the cost of living is intolerable; not a day passes without increases in the prices of a number of products. Before the last election we were promised that this Government would stabilise and reduce prices. I have no doubt that this promise helped more than any other single factor to ensure that the Coalition were returned to office. The results of their efforts are now only too apparent: prices have escalated to a point where many families are pushed to the limit even to exist. In such circumstances it is very difficult to be critical of the harassed mother of a large family if she decides to buy foreign made shoes when she can get them at a price which is considerably lower than the price of Irish footwear.

I would stress strongly that the Irish footwear industry—management and workers—are not asking for a monopoly here for their goods. They recognise that they can only develop as a result of trading. They are asking simply for fair competition and are willing to accept that there should be a considerable importation of footwear into this country. They are asking that we apply a quota system so as to enable us to control the level of imports. If this proposal were accepted by the Minister and fought for at EEC level and if it were acceded to there, there would continue to be a big range of cheap imported footwear products from which a mother in the circumstances I have outlined could buy.

In addition to that, a properly directed buy Irish campaign would encourage those who are better off to leave these cheaper products to those who cannot afford anything else and to buy Irish themselves. Whenever there is any suggestion of placing a restriction on the importation of footwear, those who favour unrestricted importation use the argument that we are trying to penalise the less well-off. The fact is that those who buy pairs of cheap foreign shoes in any year are not the poor who cannot afford to buy Irish goods but, very often, are those who are reasonably well off and who, through lack of thought regarding the effect of their action on employment or because of a could-not-care-less attitude do not bother to buy Irish. By leaving the cheaper products for the less well-off larger families and by buying Irish, even at some little financial sacrifice, they could help transform the industry, prevent further redundancies and help consolidate employment.

Let me further remind them that they would be doing themselves a favour, perhaps, today, this is more obvious than ever before when even jobs which were regarded previously as being in the safe categories are now under severe pressure. It should be understood clearly that each footwear worker who loses his employment, renders a little less secure at all levels the employment of every other worker in the country. The man who becomes unemployed suffers a drop in income which means that his ability to purchase goods decreases. It means that the volume of necessities he buys is reduced and that the purchase of other articles or of articles he proposed to replace is put off to a later date. All of this affects adversely, directly or indirectly, the security of those still in employment. Workers at all levels have a clearer perception now of this situation and I believe that some well planned and properly thought out publicity would hammer home the vital need for all our people to buy Irish today.

Basically, there is a need for the display of more Irish goods in the larger stores and supermarkets and also in the smaller shops. We need, too, to instil in the public a clearer understanding as to the economic consequences of ignoring the call to buy Irish. If these labour-intensive industries are permitted to collapse, either because of lack of positive thinking and decision on the part of the Minister, or because of a lack of understanding on the part of the public, the consequences for all of us, and not merely for the workers in these industries, will be very serious.

A good start might be made in this respect in relation to a buy Irish campaign if we were to begin by concentrating on buying locally. Every town and village is experiencing unemployment. If we could concentrate the minds of our people not only on the general problem but on the fact that each individual has some responsibility for the welfare of his neighbour, we would be on the way towards overcoming the main difficulties we are experiencing.

Perhaps I might summarise briefly the general position in which the footwear industry finds itself and some of my proposals to overcome the problems. The first and basic matter to realise is that this industry is set on a disaster course. It is no longer a question of a few workers becoming temporarily disemployed in the factories. The stage has been reached where the industry is disintegrating. Whole factories are going into liquidation. They are closing down with an alarmingly detrimental effect not only on the workers immediately concerned but on workers in ancillary industries. Very often where the industry is the only one in the area, its closure has a disastrous effect on the whole community. What is at stake then, is the employment of thousands of people. I am sure the Minister will accept that swift and effective action must be taken by him at this stage, action which would curb imports from low cost countries by insisting at EEC level on a quota system. This must apply, also, in the case of the Comecon countries where the importer or the country of origin must be obliged to substantiate costings. The most effective monitoring system must be brought into operation at once and the best possible use made of it.

Serious consideration must be given immediately to invoking Articles 104 and 108 of the Treaty of Rome. The conditions laid down for invoking these Articles is clearly evident in the Irish economy of today although the Minister may hold a different view.

Article 137 of the Treaty of Accession underlines clearly that we can take measures to correct our economy in cases of extreme urgency up to 31st December, 1975. With so many of our people swelling the dole queue, there is no doubt that this is a time of extreme urgency for all industry but, particularly, for the footwear industry. Consideration should be given to the application of VAT to footwear imports at the point of entry.

In arranging quotas for imports from Comecon countries, realistic values should be applied by the Revenue Commissioners to documentation for the purpose of establishing a correct duty. The necessity for this is obvious to everybody.

Special help should be given to the footwear industry for export purposes. Again, I would emphasise the necessity for a worthwhile buy and sell Irish campaign. Such a campaign must be got under way immediately and sustained.

Efforts are continuing on the part of the IDA to secure new industry. This is highly commendable and is worthy of our full support. However, in the short term, we need to concentrate on saving the industries we have. We are spending a considerable amount each year in setting up new industries. It is right to do this because very often these industries have worthwhile potential. However, their employment content is small in their early years, whereas the collapse of one footwear industry in a town may mean the loss at one fell swoop of as many jobs as may be provided at the initial stage in many new industries. While recognising the urgent need for industrial expansion, I am well aware of the excellent work being done by Fóir Teoranta in their efforts to assist industries in difficulty. In the short-term, while proceeding with our industrial development we should make available more money from whatever source to help the footwear industry which is now in a very serious predicament.

Finally, I would say that all our efforts to keep the footwear industry going will be futile unless immediate action is taken to curb inflation. This is fundamental. It is ridiculous to hear Ministers making speeches to that effect. They know the facts, we know the facts; what we want from them is action but to date they have done nothing to curb inflation.

So long as inflation remains at its present level, not alone will the footwear industry disappear but all industries are in serious danger. I can say this from experience in one of the most highly industrialised constituencies in the country. The footwear industry is faced with disaster. The Minister knows this and only a superlative effort can save the jobs of thousands of workers. I hope that in his reply the Minister will give the industry some hope. I hope he will not persist in his previous attitude of saying there is nothing he can do, that it is in the hands of the EEC.

The Minister will reply to the debate tomorrow when he has heard more of the contributions from both sides of the House. What I shall say will be just a few remarks that may be of help to the House in considering what everyone will agree is a very serious situation. It is causing grave concern to the country in general, to individual families and to localities where the shoe industry is of significance.

It is important to realise that this is a profound problem, one that has been with us for a very considerable time and whose roots go back into history. This was referred to by Deputy Faulkner when he stated the shoe industry was established in the thirties in conditions of protection. In fact, there was virtually an absolute bar on imports of footwear for many years. In that situation an industry developed that was very unspecialised, which had to supply every conceivable need for shoes of any type in the country. This meant the industry was diversified, did not have economies of scale and was producing a small amount of a wide range of products. Such an industry was not likely to survive in conditions of free trade where specialisation was necessary to achieve the economies of scale that would allow one to break competitively into export markets.

The previous Government were faced with that situation and they recognised it when they set up the Committee on Industrial Organisation which considered the shoe industry. Their report was presented to the Government in 1961 and it is important to refer to it. On page 220 of the report it is stated:

We have been asked to indicate if possible the loss of output and employment which would result under free trade conditions in the shoe industry.

Later in the report they stated they were disposed to think that if nothing were done about the recommendations they made home sales could be reduced by as much as 50 per cent and that our exports to Britain could be reduced by 25 per cent. On page 221 they stated:

Without improvements which we regard as desirable, the disemployment might conceivably go as high as 2,000.

A further report on the shoe industry was issued by the Committee on Industrial Progress in 1972. It is interesting to see how, in 1972, the COIP looked back on the action taken in the interim on the 1961 recommendations of the CIO. In the interim, the previous Government had held office continuously. The CIO had made the following recommendations:

(i) Co-ordination of adaptation and development plans and co-operation in carrying them out.

The COIP said: "We found no evidence of co-ordination in adaptation and development on an industry-wide basis..."

(ii) Reduction of ranges of production and concentration on fewer lines by means of a division of work between manufacturing units to be organised by the Adaptation Council.

The COIP said that: "The CIO regarded as one of the more important tasks of the Adaptation Association... but concluded that "The Association did not undertake this task but, as far as we can see, limited itself to commending to the members the wisdom of undertaking a certain degree of rationalisation..."

(iii) Improvement in factory production—modernisation of plant and enlargement of scale of operation.

It is fair to say that some considerable progress was made on this recommendation but of the grants made available for adaptation and modernisation of equipment, six firms received 60 per cent and this indicates many other firms received very small grants. The report stated that in 1972 some 44 per cent of footwear machinery in use in the Irish footwear industry was more than ten years old. This indicates that the modernisation in factory production recommended in 1961 had not taken place in the interim to the extent one might have hoped. The CIO also made the following recommendation:

(v) Investigation into provision of industry-wide research and information facilities and for the setting up of a central advisory service on design.

There was progress on this and the industry is in consultation for some years now with the Institute for Industrial Research and Standards on the question of research and information facilities. The next recommendation is one with which all of us would agree and perhaps it is of the greatest significance. The CIO called for:

(vi) Training of employees with a view to remedying deficiencies.

On this the COIP said: "This is an area in which little progress has been made." This is a recommendation which the Government of the day had the greatest opportunity to do something about because, to a great extent, the other recommendations were within the competence of the management in the industry while the Government were confined to making facilities available. The committee also recommended as follows:

(vii) The establishment by the industry of a body or bodies to improve production and marketing. No action appears to have been taken on this recommendation.

Thus as far back as 1961 warnings were given to the Government and to the industry although I accept it would not be fair to blame the Government solely for the lack of action in that period. Nevertheless recommendations were made that, to a substantial degree, were not heeded and this is borne out clearly in the report of the COIP presented in 1972.

It is fair to say that the problem we are discussing became very acute during the period of office of our predecessors. If they had some magic remedy to deal with the situation I should think they would have produced it while they were still in office. It is important to quantify this. In 1969 imports of shoes represented only 12 per cent of the market in this country. In 1973, which is the year the previous Government left office, 48 per cent, or four times 12 per cent, of the Irish footwear market was represented by imports. That was an alarming trend taking place in those four years during which the previous Government were in office. If they had ideas as to how this trend could have been reversed—it was obviously a serious one and one that would cause any Government concern—I would have imagined that they would have come up with them and translated them into substantial changes in the situation during 1969-1973. They did not do that, and one must recognise they were obviously seriously constrained from doing it by the realities of the economic situation at the time. We were moving into an area of free trade and, it was decided by the Government that this was a desirable course of action on balance, although there would be problems arising from it. It is wrong for Fianna Fáil to have taken that stance then and come along now and say we should do what they themselves failed to do. They want to have their cake and eat it; they want free trade but they do not want the consequential disadvantages. It is easy to say something like that when one is in Opposition. It is not so easy when one is in Government. Fianna Fáil did not advocate this when they were in Government but they appear to be advocating it now when they are in Opposition.

It is important to recognise from whence imports are coming. Deputy Faulkner did not dwell on this but I heard other people implying that to a significant extent the problem arose from imports of footwear from outside the EEC. It was these, they argued, which were causing the problems. Reference was made to the Comecon countries and to Taiwan. It was suggested it was easy to take action against extra-EEC imports while not so easy to take action against our partners in the EEC. The fact is that 88 per cent of imports of shoes come from within the EEC and that leaves only 12 per cent coming from without the EEC; 76 per cent are in fact coming from Britain.

How much of those originated elsewhere?

I do not have any information on that.

It is a very important matter.

I am sure the Deputy will elaborate on that later.

You are the Parliamentary Secretary; I am not.

Those are the figures available to me and, if the Deputy has evidence available to him to suggest the figures are false, he should produce it but, unless he has that evidence, these are the figures supplied to me by officials of the Department who are in a position to know what is happening. I am giving them to the House. I think they are fair figures which indicate the real situation and I challenge the Deputy to deny them in substance.

It is also fair to say that one of the serious problems we are facing is represented not just by the increase in imports but by the fact that we are not as successful as we should be in exports. Statistics for the first four months show that fewer shoes are being imported than were being imported in the first four months of 1974. From January to April, 1974, 1,958,000 pairs of shoes were imported; in the same period of 1975 the figure was 1,668,000. There was a decline in imports. That is not to say that the situation has improved. In fact it has worsened because of a very significant decline in our exports. That is something upon which this debate might usefully focus. So far the focus has been solely on the imports dimension. The export dimension also needs attention. In the first four months of 1974 we exported 1,274,000 paris of shoes; in the same period in 1975 we exported 1,021,000 paris of shoes, a reduction of about 20 per cent in exports. That is a serious situation and one which must cause us concern. I can make only very general comments on why this is the evolution. I think one of the most significant factors is the decline in our competitiveness and costs of production. These are much higher here and projected UK basic wage rates are approximately 28 per cent higher than the rates in the shoe industry here. Wages have to be paid out of the prices received for shoes sold and quite clearly that discrepancy affects to a significant extent our competitiveness in export markets and explains to some extent the present situation.

I detected at one stage in Deputy Faulkner's speech—I may be being unfair to him—a hint that he might contemplate actually breaking EEC rules. I do not think he actually said it and he may well not agree with such a sentiment but it would be useful if we could have a clear statement as to whether or not the Opposition would contemplate such a course of action. If they would, and I think it is unlikely, it would indicate a rather strange anomaly in that they wish in one sense to be even more European than others because they were stating at considerable length that they would remain in the EEC irrespective of what Britain did, indicating they were, in the continental term, more communitaire than anybody else. Now they cannot have it both ways.

I think I heard someone on that side of the House say that too.

Yes, indeed, but we do not advocate breaking the Treaty provisions in any way. I do not know whether the Opposition would contemplate breaking the terms of the Treaty but it is a matter that should be cleared up. Deputy Faulkner referred to Articles 104 and 108 of the Treaty of Accession which permit unilateral action when severe balance of payments problems arise. I think the Articles are Articles 108 and 109 actually. I am advised one cannot take action in relation to a balance of payments problem affecting one particular sector of the economy. It has to be a general balance of payments problem affecting the whole economy, putting the currency in danger or threatening the creditworthiness of the country as a whole. That situation emphatically does not exist in respect of Ireland and therefore those Articles could not be invoked in this particular situation.

In relation to Article 135, which refers to specific sectoral problems and allows action to be taken by member States to curb imports, in that situation action can be taken unilaterally by a member State but it has to be taken with the consent of the EEC Commission.

Did they agree to what Italy did?

Order, Deputies will have an opportunity of speaking later.

The situation in relation to the shoe industry and the textile industry is that the problems we are facing are being encountered in practically every country in the EEC where there is a footwear industry and a textile industry. If we were to impose restrictions on imports of footwear and textiles from other EEC countries, whose footwear and textiles are experiencing the same problems, the obvious corollary of that is that they would impose similar restrictions on our exports to them, either in that sector or some other sector. That would lead to a breakdown of the Common Market concept.

As the House is no doubt aware, the heads of state of the EEC made it clear that they did not see a solution to the economic problems of member states lying in import restrictions being imposed by one member as against another, and that the problems should be solved by concerted action between members on a co-operative basis. Ireland, which depends for its livelihood and that of many thousand workers on exports, must support the concept adumbrated by the heads of state which calls for concerted action on this matter. This does not involve punitive restrictions on imports which in the end would hit us harder than our compatriots in the EEC because we depend more on exports than many of them. If we start a cycle of import controls there is a danger that they in turn will act in a similar manner against us which would put many thousand more jobs in jeopardy.

This is the real situation we are faced with. I believe everybody will recognise that it is a difficult situation which does require some of the remedies suggested by Deputy Faulkner. He made a very valuable contribution in relation to the Buy Irish campaign. I hope everybody will pay attention to what he said. His contribution pointed out that in the distribution sector much needs to be done to ensure not only that people want to buy Irish but that they are able to buy Irish, that Irish goods are there for them to buy. I hope, in the distribution sector, that what Deputy Faulkner said will be taken due heed of.

It gives me no pleasure to come back to the House after six months to speak again on the problem facing shoe companies and the workers in them. I was slated in the House when I said that this industry was in a serious position when we moved our motion last December. I was told I was going around creating a scare. I defy anybody to say now that I created a scare. The scare has come now into the homes of all the shoe operatives in the country. The Parliamentary Secretary went back to 1961 and quoted from records and statistics. At that time Fianna Fáil could take action to counteract imports into the country. When we left office in March, 1973 the total employed in this industry was 6,000. I believe the total number now is about 3,000.

We see closures of factories very frequently now. We see companies in difficulties nearly every day, depending on one loan from a bank and another from State agencies. Last December I stated that a factory that has to go on the borrowing market today is running into very serious difficulties with the interest charges involved. The aids given, whether from banks or State agencies, are only a stop gap.

I want to talk about the legalities we all talk about in relation to the EEC, that we cannot renegotiate. I believe under the articles of our treaty of entry and our negotiations that if employment was to be badly affected we could renegotiate. Almost every country in the EEC has broken every rule when it suited her and this is still happening. France did this. Germany also did it. What action has been taken against either country in the EEC courts? France did what suited her. She was right to do so if she felt it would have an adverse effect on the financial upkeep of the particular concern.

We are very grateful to the IDA for the amount of job potential they have brought into the country. When this matter is talked about we hear numbers quoted but lately I divided the figure given by two and I got a more realistic answer. It is time the State agencies and the Government took action to protect the shoe companies in particular who have given very good employment down through the years. Some workers are 30 years in a shoe factory. They say that when a person becomes redundant he can go to AnCO for retraining. That is all right for a man aged between 20 and 35 years but it is difficult to train people over 35. Since January the cost to shoe companies has increased by 40 per cent. The increase has come about by increases in ESB, CIE, postage, insurance and labour costs, including the honouring of the national wage agreement.

The Parliamentary Secretary appeared to say we were not doing enough for export. I do not know whether he was alluding to the design or quality of our shoes but I should like to point out that the shoe factory in my constituency has won three awards for design. When it comes to design that factory rates as one of the best in Europe. They can supply a top quality range of shoes. When I visited a number of shops in Dublin city recently I discovered that they had a wide range of Italian, English, and Korean shoes. I was asked for as much at £16 per pair. The average price was about £12 per pair. When I asked if there were any Irish shoes available the assistants were not very helpful in saying they had. I do not know why they adopt this attitude. The same applies in our supermarkets.

One of the problems is that dumping of shoes is taking place through England from countries outside the EEC. From England the shoes, which are stamped in that country, find their way on to the Irish market. It should be possible for us to insist that the stamping operation is carried out by a machine before the shoe leaves the factory in the country of origin. If this was done it would be more difficult for foreign supplies to find their way on to the Irish market. The people involved would put a stamp "Irish made" on the shoes if they thought they would get away with it. Some of the footwear comes from Czechoslovakia at a cost of £1.80, duty paid. We should be able to take measures to counter that.

The Parliamentary Secretary asked if we were anxious to break rules. We do not want to break rules but we do not have to break them. We can renegotiate these rules, and that is what we should have been doing since last December. In December the Minister invited a task force from the EEC—he may not have asked them but they came anyway—to look around this industry. Those people returned to the EEC capital but did nothing for us. Apparently, the attitude is that we must stand on our own two feet.

The Buy Irish campaign never got off the ground. The publicity given to this campaign was not what it should have been. It would have been better if we had launched a campaign stressing the importance of preserving jobs at home and the importance of maintaining employment for families. I do no think anybody was happy with the campaign which was launched in December. If the proper work was put into such a campaign we would get the co-operation of our people.

I do not accept the argument put forward by the Minister, or the Government, that nothing can be done to alter EEC regulations. We should be able to renegotiate, particularly when the shoe industry is on the point of collapse. In my view, we have a marvellous case to present to the EEC. The manufacture of footwear is one of the largest industries in my constituency. However, the employees are on three days one week, five days in other weeks and then off work for a further week. They do not know when they will be told that a receiver is to be appointed. I hope that will not happen, but if costs continue to soar, if imports are allowed to come in unchecked, I cannot see any future for our footwear industry.

When replying I expect the Minister to quote EEC regulations and say that nothing can be done about the matter. When I spoke on this previously I did not attack the Minister but I must attack him and the Government now for their failure to take action. The Minister should take action even if it means renegotiating or breaking a regulation. Are we always to be the nice boys and say everything is going well in Ireland when we are on our knees? On the last occasion the Minister said that when Italy put on an embargo it brought the Italian Government to its knees, but that Government was never in any other position except on its knees, so it would not be anything to go by. That being so, I am now of the opinion that the EEC Commission feel that we are easy meat, that they can palm us off, that they can get us off their hands easily because we will do nothing about it. France imposed a lamb embargo against us.

Is the Deputy suggesting that that was illegal or in contravention of the rules?

It was in contravention, but still they did it.

The Deputy simply does not know the situation.

I may not know it but I know that we can renegotiate and the Minister must admit also that countries have broken their agreements when they affected the industries involved. Nobody can deny that.

I want to go on to some of the matters that are crippling us at the moment. Inflation at 30 per cent is having a major effect on us and that is one of our problems that is pricing us out of the export market. What company can stand a 40 per cent increase in costs in six months? A company has confirmed to me that their costs have gone up by 40 per cent, an enormous increase. We ought impose some sort of import quota as well because we would then be restricting imports coming in as they are now. They seem to have free access here. Reading the reply given today to a question put down by Deputy Leonard, there is no good news in it. I do not want to deal with the report in The Irish Independent of today because that seems now to be untrue, according to the information I have.

On the broader issues, there are millions of pounds worth of cattle being exported each year. These include the hides. I brought this up on the last occasion and I would like to know from the Minister if he did any checking up to see whether the raw hides sent out by the container loads are processed and imported here again. This is an industry we could develop and expand and we would be using an obvious natural resource. To export the hides and then import them back in does not seem to me to make sense at all. I would like to know why we cannot do it here and if we have not got the means now, perhaps we would be able to get around to it with the help of IDA grants and grants from other agencies which would help us out. At the moment the imports coming in here, I am led to believe, are running close to 70 per cent, an increase over last year of about 15 per cent. The Parliamentary Secretary stated that there were not as many imports as last year, but it must be realised that there is a falling off in consumer demand which has been brought about by the grave unemployment position we have. That is the answer to that—that people have not got the same purchasing power.

I want to say also that the shops here have not supported the Irish shoe companies in the way they should have and I regret to have to say that. I do not want anyone to say that the same profit margin is not there. Some of the companies recently in order to keep their companies viable had two options. One was redundancy and the other was to increase the price of the shoe. To increase the price would have priced us out of the market, so they brought about redundancies in an effort to cut their costs. It is not a very good thing when you have to bring about redundancies to keep down your costs, but on top of that, they had inflation which was running wild and this has had an adverse effect on them.

I believe that the import of shoes from outside the EEC should be banned completely. Some may say that that is not on, but I feel it will have to be because if it is not, the closure of most of these companies is imminent. I said here in December that action of that nature should be taken then to stop these imports. Surely we should have stopped them but these people got clever in the end and switched over to using England as a jumping off ground. I do not know how we are to get over that, but it is something which the Department and the Revenue Commissioners should look into, the using of England as a launching pad for this country. They have been consistently using it. They have been using the North also but mainly England.

I was of the opinion after the debate here in December that something would happen to improve the situation with regard to the factories, but I regret to say that they have been going downhill all the time and the workers are now wondering what is to happen next. They have been responsible people because there was another option open to them. I fear that it will happen, that they will black the places of entry into this country, which may have an effect on other aspects of our industrial life but when you are 30 years in a job and it has been your livelihood, the only trade you know, you cannot be blamed.

Debate adjourned.
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