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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 13 Mar 1984

Vol. 348 No. 11

Private Members' Business. - Unemployment Rise: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann, alarmed by the ever-increasing rise in unemployment, condemns the Government for continuing to ignore this social disaster or to take any positive action to deal with the situation.

We all recognise that this is the pressing issue by which we will all be judged. This is the subject of relevance to the people, particularly our young people. I want to make some preliminary observations. Over the last few weeks politicians have been preoccupied with a matter which does not appear to affect the lives of the ordinary citizen as much as this awesome problem of unemployment. I am speaking of course of the questions, doubts and apprehensions raised about telephone tapping, bugging and other matters which rate importance in their own areas. The public expect us to do something positive, to give them hope where there is no hope and to create opportunities which do not exist at present. They do not want to be distracted and they do not want to see us distracted by continuing reports, leaks, observations and interviews relating to this matter.

We put down this motion last week because we wanted to focus on this issue which is the common responsibility of all Members of this House. Before the last general election we all gave commitments to reduce the numbers of unemployed and we also promised to set up a judicial inquiry into the matters I have referred to. As Fianna Fáil spokesman on finance and economic planning may I plead with the Government to honour that commitment and take this subject out of the arena of political dissension? Would they do what they said, and what we said, and set up the judicial inquiry to set the public mind at rest? If they do that the public will realise that we are concerned about the problems they are facing. Members on both sides recognise that this is our fundamental responsibility. If that commitment is honoured I give an undertaking on behalf of this side of the House that we will focus on the fundamental issue — the need to create opportunities, hope and above all employment for our people.

In November 1982 the Government promised to take firm and decisive action to deal with the growing problem of unemployment which at that time stood at 170,000. Today, 18 months later, that number has increased by 40,000, and that number is still growing. So far we have seen no evidence of any action, much less firm and decisive action, from the Government to deal with what we all acknowledge to be the most pressing issue facing Members who come here to discharge our obligations to the electorate. The problem has reached crisis proportions and thousands of people, especially young people, cannot see any Government plan, programme or central direction to which they can respond.

There is a limit to what Government can do, or should pretend they can do, in terms of generating jobs. We have seen the growth of public expenditure, representing 68 per cent of GNP, an increase of over 28 per cent, in a few years. We must create a climate and encourage people to do for themselves, to create opportunities by offering incentives. People should know that once they put their hands to the plough they will not be discouraged from continuing to plough the furrow by way of tax burdens and impositions which have reached an unacceptably high level. That is the subject on which we should focus this evening.

We have exactly three hours to come up with a broad outline to solve this problem, Fianna Fáil will have 90 minutes to make their contributions and the Coalition will have 90 minutes. We have deliberately decided to focus on this as the only issue which justifies our presence. This is the test on which the Government will stand or fall. We all owe the public an apology because this Government did not order business in a way to enable us to have a comprehensive discussion on this issue. We would like to put forward our plans and test them against the Government plans, even if we had to wait another month to hear the Government's plans. But no, we have this three hour debate. As I said, we all owe, particularly Government, the public an apology for constraining us from discussing this growing crisis.

While this is a national crisis, it is a dangerous crisis in certain parts of this country, particularly in this city. I heard a discussion on the radio about the problems facing the people of Tallaght, the sense of hopelessness that pervades that area and the inadequacy of this Government's attempts to help the young people. We do not need to focus on the problems of the inner city, unfortunately. My colleague, Deputy Gene Fitzgerald, will understandably refer to the crisis in our second city, Cork. In Dublin, Cork and elsewhere we are seeing and tolerating an economic and social crisis and waiting for something from a Government who tell us that the National Planning Board may be coming up with proposals but when they do the Government will first have to consider them and a few months later we will be discussing them in the absence of firm and decisive Government action. That is the background to this problem.

I want to put a few facts on the record. It is not our intention to add further to the hopelessness, frustration or despair running through the country, but we must acknowledge the extent of the problem and then see how we should tackle it. The economic conditions of the rest of the world by which we are greatly influenced are already lifting. We have a higher level of GNP in trading than any other country in the world. We have an opportunity, if we had a plan and a programme, to avail of that lift. By comparison with the rest of Europe, the trend of unemployment here last year was an average of just over 16 per cent, almost two-and-a-half times the growth of unemployment in the rest of the EEC. There are problems in the other member states but unemployment is tapering off throughout the EEC. However, that is not the case here. There are factors which relate to the lack of economic policy and the dismal performance of the Government. It has to be acknowledged that we have a massive growth in population which is not a feature elsewhere. Having said that, the fact is that conditions outside are not only benign but positive in America, Japan and Europe. Yet we are still waiting for something.

The Minister has told us that his first priority is to control and regulate tax revenue and seal off loopholes. We are waiting for that priority to be realised. I will name some of the major industries which have closed since the beginning of this year. We have lost at least 2,000 jobs in manufacturing industry: Irish Biscuits, Blackwater, Youghal, Kelly's Portlaoise, Keenan's, Bagnelstown, Burlington, Fords, Cork, Warner Lambert, Stainless Steel, Roscommon, Westinghouse Dunleer, Youghal Carpets. There are many more. It was mentioned in the debate in relation to Fóir Teoranta that they were unable to cope with the growing number of job losses last year.

In 1980 one out of every 14 people was unemployed. As we speak, that figure is one out of six. That demands action. The numbers employed in manufacturing industry and those employed on the land, which is our greatest national resource, are outnumbered by the numbers unemployed. That is startling. Is that any grounds for reassurance? The number of those under the age of 25 who are unemployed is greater than the total number who were employed ten years ago. Is that something to be proud of? Do we just sit back and say we will have a report from the planning board soon or that we will concentrate on the priority of collecting tax? Do we realise that out there is a seething bed of discontent? People are concerned about their husband, son, wife or daughter. What about the indignity the unemployed are suffering? We hear about it on radio every day. How long do we think we can sit back? How long do we think they will confine their frustrations to talking on radio programmes? Not only is unemployment rising but employment is falling. In the face of a Liverpool here, with a growing population of young people, in 1982 and 1983 the numbers employed fell by 45,000.

I state these facts to highlight the problem we face. The Government gave a commitment that they would take firm action to deal with this problem. Behind the statistics is a human crisis which is threatening not only to undermine the economy but much more. Let us look at some of the factors which are the background to the problem.

One of our responsibilities is to create a climate in which people will invest and are satisfied that they are not being penalised by working. The level of investment last year at 23 per cent of GDP was the lowest for 15 years. The Public Capital Programme last year was slashed by 25 per cent. That is the contribution from Government to create the environment for infrastructural development in which others can make plans for industrial and manufacturing activity. Foreign investment in this country has dried up. The IDA are talking about attracting 1,000 jobs this year. Did we think we would reach a stage — I do not blame them — where one of our State agencies with the greatest degree of support and financial incentive would acknowledge that the climate for investment here was so poor that nothing, not even their expertise or contacts throughout the world, could attract more than 1,000 jobs at this stage?

In case we think they are getting everything else right in terms of the budget deficit and so on, the Minister acknowledged as recently as 7 February that total foreign indebtedness at the end of 1983 is just short of £9,000 million. At the end of 1982 it was just short of £7,000 million. That is an increase of £2,000 million in a year in which the Government told us they would reduce the level of debt. The Minister has suggested that those of us who state these facts are undermining confidence but look at some of the hamfisted attempts made in the budget in relation to gilts. If there is something to be done about them it should be done but there is a way to do it without undermining confidence. If the Government and the Department of Finance expect to raise £1,000 million on the domestic market this year, which was the projection, they will not succeed because of the way they have undermined confidence by their handling of bond washing on the Stock Exchange. There are people looking for some place to invest funds but if the Minister wants money he had better make up the shortfall elsewhere. It will not be available to him at a time when we need to encourage investment.

While all this is happening we have the emergence of what is being called the black hole, the unrecorded outflow of £1,000 million from the economy last year. This has occurred to such an extent that we will probably have to revise our figures for growth last year and our projections for growth this year together with our balance of payments estimates. How can we plan when as a consequence of the clear indications this Government have given they are going to penalise investment, get in as much tax revenue as they can and levy charges on all kinds of activities? That message is also going out to other countries which were formerly attracted here.

We need a comprehensive plan for national development in all areas by which every action of Government will be informed, tested or judged. If a budget is not part of a comprehensive national plan for development it is of no consequence. In the weeks before the budget the Minister for Finance managed to focus attention on the options and alternatives open to him. Economic and other commentators were drawing up alternative budgets and not paying enough attention to the genuine one. All the words that were written and the comments which were made do not matter in the face of the issue with which we are now dealing. A budget which is only an instrument to implement a comprehensive plan is not just a neutral budget, it is a nonsensical budget. This neutral budget followed the most deflationary budget in the history of the State the previous year. There were unprecedented levels of taxation and levies of all kinds. We deflated the economy and penalised everyone who made an effort to improve things. We even succeeded, unfortunately, in dividing the community and created tensions between employers and employees and PAYE workers and others. The Minister aggravated the situation by ignoring facts.

There are ways of creating new hope and confidence in people. We should take down all the signposts which are pointing backwards in our economy and which penalise effort and incentive. We should clearly signal that if they take risks they will be rewarded whether they are self-employed, industrialists, agriculturalists or employees. There is a whole range of areas where this can be done. We welcomed the minimal effort announced in the budget that the Minister would grant tax concessions to venture capital for new manufacturing industry. Remember, however, that the same Minister in his previous budget abolished the tax concessions which had existed here since the thirties. We argued and pleaded with him not to do so, to no avail. He abolished tax concessions for people investing in publicly quoted companies as if anyone would pretend that the dividends yield from investment in publicly quoted companies up to last year would measure up to the return in investment from the safe havens of gilts and building societies.

The tax concessions should be expanded to include not just new manufacturing industries but jobs in existing industries because they are very clearly at risk. It would be a sign to those who have committed themselves over the years that their efforts will be rewarded. Indeed, the Minister should not confine it to manufacturing industry only. I am sure he is aware that the IDA or consultants in other organisations would tell him that the ratio in respect of new jobs is at best one to five in the manufacturing industry and the service sector. Surely jobs that are created in the trade and services sector, where the real growth potential is, will pay dividends? If one looks at the developing economies of America and Japan, particularly America, one can see they have precisely the same number of people employed today in manufacturing industry as they had about 20 years ago. Nonetheless, there has been a 2 per cent growth in employment in real terms in the other sectors. I hope the Minister is prepared to take account of that and make that proposal when he introduces the Finance Bill. Frankly, the revenue that might be lost as a consequence of this would be more than repaid by the investment, employment and activity which would follow. The tax yield would be much more considerable than the Minister would lose in making concessions of this sort.

We want to promote common purpose and enterprise and to establish cohesion between employers and employees. As a clear indication of that common purpose and ownership in all activities, including employer and employee relationships, we should promote motivation among employees by developing concepts of interrelationship and industrial democracy, sharing of information with employees, profit sharing and shareholding by employees. For instance, to acquire shares for employees we could encourage shareholding through the allocation of shares at preferential rates through the acquisition of shares by employees on the Stock Exchange or through normal commercial channels. We could also encourage it by giving signals to the industrial sector, who now, incidentally, seem to be moving in that direction and are prepared to acknowledge that disclosure is not necessarily bad, to promote a sense of common purpose. We can do these things if we move in that direction. The Government might also consider giving a lead by encouraging commercial State-sponsored bodies to seek a Stock Exchange quotation or to introduce profit sharing and shareholding schemes for employees. We need to take radical action because we do not want to confine our efforts to what has been done up to the present in terms of worker participation on boards.

We should encourage people to move out of safe haven investments. They are already moving out into risk-taking investments. Apart from the undisclosed sum of £1 billion mentioned recently, a considerable amount of money is being invested abroad by Irish business, manufacturing and constructing companies. I would not criticise them because in order to maintain even skeleton activity here they are going to a better climate. Surely we should see the need to encourage that kind of investment here. We must promote venture capital investment through tax incentives for employment-creating activities in industry, agriculture, forestry, fisheries, tourism, construction, the service sector and even community development programmes which are the nub of much that happens in rural Ireland. We can encourage pension and life assurance funds managers to channel their funds to resource development for employment creation. This must not be beyond the wit of Government.

We must acknowledge that the level of Government allocations for forestry and fisheries is actually falling in money terms, much less in real terms. If the public purse cannot promote activity for employment in these areas the Minister must stir his imagination to attract pension funds and others to invest in these programmes. They are waiting to do so but are being constrained by the out-moded thinking to which the Minister seems to be particularly prone. Surely he is aware that people are waiting to invest, given the signal. If the Government cannot provide funds they should at least encourage others to invest venture capital to generate employment opportunities.

Our industrial development programme has served us well but the IDA and CTT acknowledge that we are now dealing in a different world. We are not able to attract investment in the same way through grants for fixed capital assets and so on. The focus now is different and must be based on product development and marketing incentives. Even a small share of the growing international market would deal with out problems and realise our potential and we must shift the emphasis in that direction. Fixed capital assets are not of much consequence when the unit is failing. We should encourage the IDA and CTT to combine together. Both have an international reputation and many contacts. If we had a plan they would carry it out. We must employ a research and development programme, sophisticated product development and an aggressive marketing strategy. Those who have been most actively involved do not see much hope in the way things are being done and perhaps they are looking elsewhere to see how they can make their contribution other than through these agencies.

Our first resource is our people and we must have a programme for investment in education. We recently had a debate on education and I am glad to see our spokesman in the House. Anything we have ever done has been based on a programme of investment in education. This was particularly so during the sixties and seventies. There is no point in having a nice academic discussion on a programme for education if it is not supported by the necessary investment funds. Our first priority must be to develop the skills that will give added value at technological, marketing and every other level.

Last year's nonsensical decision to cancel examinations in modern languages was evidence of blindness to the need to encourage our people to acquire these skills. This decision was taken for the sake of a miserable £0.5 million, although as an afterthought they changed it. We must invest in education to equip our young people.

Agriculture needs a plan. We are cutting back on farm modernisation. Does anyone suggest that Irish agriculture is too modern? The allocation for farm modernisation is now 50 per cent less than two years ago. Marketing is needed to develop our agri-food industry. The Germans and Dutch are using Irish-type names to market their products but we have no real marketing programme to make the most of what we have. We must work through the co-op movement in every area to develop the strength and cohesion of Irish rural life, which was also a great characteristic of this city until it was undermined in recent times.

Forestry, fisheries and tourism are our resources. Tourism has been a growth are internationally for five or ten years. We have almost killed it here and we moan about what is going to Northern Ireland. We should be getting our share but it is diminishing and the potential will not be realised until the Minister has second thoughts in relation to the level of indirect taxation which is crucifying this sector.

The European Social Fund is ploughing money into this country. Most of it is intended to promote employment in small and medium-sized enterprises. By definition every Irish enterprise would qualify for assistance. Management support in small and medium-sized industries for research and development and marketing is vitally important. We must beware of using these funds for administrative growth, as has been happening. I do not want to criticise agencies because many of them have played a considerable role but if we do not have co-ordination between the IDA, CTT and AnCO we will not be able to maximise the creation of real jobs and real targets in new enterprises.

We must have strong and aggressive policies. The Taoiseach should talk directly to Mrs. Thatcher and tell her that she cannot put a chain around our necks, using the false and specious arguments about the budget which she has been allowed to get away with. He should tell her that what she claims to be her contribution to the European budget is as to 45 per cent the European own resources contribution. We must use every possible means to achieve again what was achieved in the sixties when we generated a sense of confidence, patriotism and respect for what we are. Following what the then Taoiseach acknowledged to be an era of depression and despair — the vanishing Irish — the Fianna Fáil Government realised this achievement. Nothing less than a comprehensive plan as a signpost to the people will achieve it now. Let us have an end to the inertia and analysis; let us get on with the job.

I oppose this motion, a motion which pretends to show that in some way the Government ignore unemployment or are not taking positive action to deal with that problem. The wording of the motion is not very clear on this point but I note the drift of Deputy O'Kennedy's remarks.

It is nonsensical for anyone to come here and pretend that anyone on this side of the House ignores unemployment. It is nonsensical to come here and without making any attempt to identify priorities to suggest that we need not do anything in order to make available the resources that are necessary for the constructive action that is necessary to deal with the problem of unemployment. It is down-right misleading to suggest that in some way we have at our disposal the kind of resources that we need to do, in an unlimited way, some of what Deputy O'Kennedy was talking about. I intend going into those areas in some detail.

The Government regard as a major policy priority the creation of sustainable employment. I use the phrase deliberately because it is one that we should keep in mind constantly in relation to the matter of job creation, a term which in itself is misleading. When we talk about making new jobs available — and I consider that a better phrase than the phrase "job creation"— we are talking of the risk business. As is held generally, we need to find ways of making it possible to employ more people in productive activity, in the manufacture of goods and in the production of services that are traded on an increasing scale. The way to go about that is to manufacture the goods or to produce the services more competitively than is the situation elsewhere. That is the bottom line. Unless and until we do that we will not have the kind of success we would wish for in making headway against the level of unemployment we are now suffering. I am not at all concerned that the proper priority is being attached by Deputy O'Kennedy and by his colleagues to what the implications of that are in terms of the selectivity of our actions or even in terms of the judgment of how we go about stimulating this kind of employment generation.

There has been an easing in the unemployment trend since the Government took office. Unemployment in that time has not accelerated at anything like as fast a rate as was the case in the previous two years.

We are living in different worlds.

If we can get the kind of response which the Government believe is required from the social partners, Government measures and plans already in operation or yet to be put into operation can make an effective contribution to reducing unemployment. Such a response is needed, too, in this House in terms of the analysis and the judgments of the kinds of measures we need to take.

The increase in the numbers unemployed in the past four years reflects the impact of the international recession, of technological change and of a failure on our own part to maintain competitiveness. Few countries have been able to avoid a pronounced increase in unemployment in the face of depressed world demand following the second oil price shock. This year there will be almost 34 million unemployed in the OECD area compared with 21 million in 1980. Even in traditionally stronger economies such as Germany and the Netherlands which have enjoyed full employment for much of the post-war era, there has been a sharp increase in unemployment during the past four years. Therefore, we are not isolated in the sense that unemployment here has increased during that time. This is the result in part of factors that have had a wider effect on countries that have been stronger than ours and which have had higher rates of overall employment.

Unemployment here has been on a strong upward trend since the end of 1979. Apart from a steep rise in job losses, particularly in manufacturing and in building and construction, the continued expansion of the labour force has added significantly to the numbers out of work. In recent years our labour force has been increasing annually by some 21,000, a rate of increase which is almost twice the average for the European Community. We have the fastest expanding labour force of any of the EEC countries.

At any time coping with a labour force growth of this size would have represented a formidable task; indeed, in a time of world recession it might have been considered impossible. However, despite the downturn in international mobile investment associated with the recession, more than 70,000 gross new jobs were created in the manufacturing sector alone in the past four years. If we had managed during that time to retain existing employment, we would have gone a long way towards absorbing the labour force increase. The reality is that, despite attempts to ride out the effects of the international recession by recourse to foreign borrowing at an unsustainable rate, jobs were lost on a substantial scale. Depressed world demand undoubtedly caused many job losses but many others disappeared because of an overall decline in competitiveness. As a result, we have ended up with the worst of both worlds — an unprecedented rate of unemployment, and foreign debt — now equivalent to more than half of total national output — the servicing of which is pre-empting an ever-increasing proportion of our domestic resources.

It is all very well for Deputy O'Kennedy to come here and to deprecate the concern which the Government show rightly with the cost of debt servicing in terms of our financial position. The fact is that it is that very financial situation with which he accuses the Government of being too concerned that is tying up a large proportion of our resources. This means that a substantial proportion of the resources we are making available each year is not available to us to deal with the problem of unemployment or with any of the other problems we would wish to deal with during the course of this year.

The Minister has borrowed more than was borrowed by any previous Minister.

In so far as I can discern what Deputy O'Kennedy was saying, he is advocating that we let the financial side rip and thereby produce a situation in which it would not be 36½ per cent of our tax revenue that would go towards debt servicing but in which we would reach the point rapidly where 40 or even 50 per cent of the tax revenue that we as a community make available would be pre-empted and would not be available to us to enable us to deal with the problems facing us.

I did not suggest that. The Minister should make his own case.

For the Deputy to draw a distinction between financial management and a concern with employment is to go down a completely false trail. I am convinced that he must know that himself.

I did not say that.

The Deputy never goes to the trouble of saying it, but he always draws that nice distinction between financing and employment which, if he really means it, shows that he has totally missed the point. If we are to promote economic growth, investment and a satisfactory rate of increase in employment, it is vital that we restore order to the public finances and improve the competitive base of the economy.

That is Deputy O'Kennedy's lecture for the day. Mine will come later.

Restoring order to the public finances is not an end in itself. That should be obvious. Given the terms in which Deputy O'Kennedy has spoken this evening, and on other occasions, it is clear that at least in his presentation of what he thinks, he does not want to make it appear that this is obvious. There is no doubt that restoring financial order in a Government, in a firm, or in a family, is not in any way an end in itself.

I accept the role of the book-keeper in any enterprise.

Although they involve short-term costs, corrective measures are essential——

The Minister is being deliberately provoking.

——if we are to regain full control over our own financial and economic affairs. I will not be put off by the mutterings of Deputy Fitzgerald.

Does the Minister want to know what I said?

It would probably make for a better and more constructive discussion of this problem if the Deputy could restrain himself.

Could I make one comment?

The Minister, without interruption.

The Deputy had his opportunity. I will not accept that I should read the script I have prepared and not make any reference to what he said in this House this evening.

If the Minister distorts what I said I will feel free to correct him.

If the Opposition feel that a debate of this kind is not what they want, it makes many of the things they have been saying sound very hollow.

The Minister should not distort what I said.

The inescapable truth is that the longer the imbalance in the public finances remains the greater will be the real loss of resources through debt servicing and consequently the more restricted will be the ability of the Government to respond to the needs of the economy. That is not something I want to perpetuate. That is not something the Government will perpetuate. It does not accord with the real needs of those in our society who have not got jobs and those who will be on the labour market next year and in following years looking for jobs.

As a result of the Government's corrective measures considerable progress was made in 1983 towards improving the economic environment: Exchequer reliance on foreign borrowing was reduced from over £1,300 million in 1981 to some £800 million last year; the balance of payments constraint was eased; there was a remarkable turnaround in manufacturing output; and there was a significant cut in the rate of inflation.

One of the most encouraging features of last year's economic performance was the major improvement in Ireland's external trading position. The merchandise trade deficit for 1983 was less than a quarter of the 1981 deficit. This reduction largely reflects the essential dynamism of the manufacturing sector. Other notable features were the containment of imports, an improvement in the terms of trade and an upturn in agricultural exports. The most striking feature of the trade performance was the buoyancy of industrial exports. Compared with a volume increase of almost 11 per cent in 1982, industrial exports accelerated to over 14 per cent last year. This was a very creditable performance in the face of very difficult trading conditions prevailing on world markets.

As I said before, in itself it is a remarkable tribute to what Irish industry can achieve when it sets its mind to trading and expanding its activities even in the face of the very difficult market conditions of last year. We are now in a position where our exports of goods and services almost pay for our corresponding imports. Another strong export performance is anticipated this year which should yield a further improvement in our external position. While there may be certain revisions to the external accounts, they are unlikely to alter the dramatic improvement in the trend evident over the recent period.

Associated with last year's remarkable export performance was a turnaround in manufacturing output. Output data for December 1983 published earlier today by the Central Statistics Office confirm that the recovery in manufacturing output is now proceeding apace. In December industrial output rose year-on-year by 20 per cent in real terms. This result, which exceeded even the most optimistic expectations — even my own expectations earlier during the course of last year with which Deputy O'Kennedy chose to disagree — brought the growth in output for 1983 as a whole to over 7 per cent, compared with a 1 per cent fall in 1982. While the high technology, chemicals and electronics sectors again led the way, the more established sectors performed very well with, for example, the food sector recording a volume growth of over 3 per cent. There is every indication that output prospects for many of the traditional sectors are improving. Given the relatively high employment content of these sectors, this is a very encouraging development.

A further notable feature of last year's economic performance was the fact that we secured a further cut in inflation.

Compared with an average inflation rate of over 20 per cent in 1981, inflation last year averaged 10½ per cent. Discounting the effects of the unavoidable tax increases imposed last year, the underlying rate of inflation was well into single figures. We are now at a stage where we can envisage our price rises coming down much closer to those prevailing in the economies of our main trading partners. That has major significance for employment prospects.

The economic improvements achieved to date will have a favourable impact on the trend in job losses and employment during the course of the year as the world economic recovery gathers momentum. To gain maximum advantage from the economic recovery, goods and services must be made more competitive and investment realised in additional productive capacity. This requires the co-operation of both employers and workers, and the Government have laid before the social partners a paper seeking consensus on how maximum advantage can be gained from the recovery. In this paper, the Government set out the requirements necessary to stem the high number of redundancies and to increase the number of jobs available. The paper provides an analysis of these requirements and reflects a responsible and constructive approach by the Government to what they recognise as a major jobs crisis. A correspondingly responsible and constructive response is expected from the social partners.

The major points made by the paper are: the key to a lasting solution to our employment problem lies in ensuring the restoration and maintenance of competitiveness in the production of traded goods and services; the prospects for the immediate future are dominated by considerations of preventing further job losses and creating the competitiveness required to secure a recovery in employment; developments in pay are crucial to improving competitiveness and reducing inflation. By keeping unit costs down, pay moderation would allow struggling firms to maintain employment, to continue producing and selling their output at a price which covers costs. Similarly, existing firms would be enabled to seize the opportunity provided by the expected growth in demand to expand output to meet this demand. A realistic level of pay here would also help the efforts of the IDA to attract new foreign industries to Ireland and would discourage the search for labour-saving capital equipment which has jeopardised many Irish jobs; the objective for 1984 and subsequent years must be to ensure that the evolution of earnings in Irish industry is such that no further deterioration occurs in the competitiveness of Irish labour, and subsequently of Irish products; the rate of inflation has already declined significantly in the past three years and is expected to decline further this year. If there were no further wage increases in 1984 inflation in the year to February 1985 could be below 5 per cent. This in itself would create an exceptionally favourable environment for wage moderation and, above all, for employment expansion; pay, however, is by no means the only or even the most important aspect of the overall employment situation. The dynamism of management and its capacity to generate a healthy management employee relationship, technical and innovative capacity in production, high quality of design and skilful marketing and containment of non-pay costs are just as important. To the extent that this is possible, the Government are taking steps to secure improved management performance in Irish firms. The series of sectoral studies which the Government have undertaken with employer bodies and trade unions are identifying specific policy measures in this area. The forthcoming White Paper on Industrial Policy will set out Government measures aimed at pursuing and supporting better management performance. These measures will be guided by the principle that State financial assistance for industrial development would be payable only where firms have adopted adequate business development plans and where the overall management capacity of a firm is judged to be competent and progressive.

The Government have embarked on discussions with the social partners aimed at achieving a consensus on these requirements as far as is practicable. In their statement on 5 March 1984 the Government requested employers and unions, in the face of growing unemployment, to refrain from making 24th round pay settlements until the present talks have established whether a consensus can be reached on the best course to adopt that will reflect the commitment of all concerned to protect existing jobs and provide new jobs. That, I submit, in the immediate sense is an extremely constructive and active approach by the Government to the problem of unemployment facing us today.

The Government are not content merely to concentrate on getting the appropriate macro-economic conditions for an improvement in the labour market. In addition to that they are striving to promote measures to combat unemployment. It is expected that this year in the region of 11,000-12,000 new manufacturing jobs will be created in IDA assisted projects. The IDA are facing intensified competition for internationally mobile industrial investment: more countries are entering the market and offering more attractive incentive packages. In order to meet this increased competition the IDA have stepped up their overseas marketing activity. New overseas offices have been opened in Hong Kong, Germany and the United States. There has been an upturn in the level of interest shown by companies, particularly from the US and the Far East, in locating new investment projects in Ireland.

In looking at measures to improve employment prospects we should not lose sight of the fact that Irish firms, mainly small firms, contributed half of the new jobs created in 1983. Indeed, investment activity in this area is expected to show an increase this year. The Government recognise the central role small businesses play in job creation.

When Pudsi Ryan hears about the Far East he will be pleased.

Deputy O'Kennedy did not have the pleasure of Deputy Power's company when he was making his points earlier and I have not noted that the Deputy has been a particular contributor to the search for new jobs in that sense.

The Minister has been standing alone for a long time.

How many jobs are we going to lose as a result of the decision on the milk super-levy or, rather, the sell-out on the milk levy?

It seems always to get the opposite benches buzzing when they are told that the facts do not seem to be in accordance with the type of picture they are attempting to paint.

The Minister should be allowed to continue without interruption.

The Minister's colleague, Deputy Prendergast, was concerned this afternoon about jobs.

I hesitate to enter into the competition between Deputies O'Keeffe and Byrne for the headlines but, if they have finished, I will continue.

The Joint Oireachtas Committee on small firms has been established with a very wide remit to study and report on the development of the small business sector. The Government decision, announced in my budget speech, to provide tax relief in relation to long-term risk capital should encourage the expansion of activity in small manufacturing concerns which should continue to be a valuable source of new employment.

That will not do much.

When we see the Finance Bill I wonder how active the Deputy will be. Through the Task Force on Unemployment the Government have taken a number of initiatives designed to alleviate the unemployment problem. An enterprise allowance scheme has been introduced to encourage unemployed people to undertake entrepreneurial activities. A scheme of voluntary work-sharing has been introduced. A scheme permitting the taking of unpaid leave within the Civil Service has been approved and vacancies arising under this scheme will be exempted from the present conditions of restrictive replacement of vacancies arising from the embargo. This is something which will be especially beneficial to labour market entrants. The Government have also introduced and extended tax incentives designed to encourage profit-sharing by individual firms.

The level of activity organised under the aegis of the Youth Employment Agency has reached the point where this year some 50,000 young people will benefit for periods averaging somewhat less than six months from training and work experience programmes. Such is the scale of overall activity designed to assist young people that Ireland is now nearer to being in a position to adopt the EEC Social Guarantee for young people than any other member state of the Community, despite the fact that total resources per head in Ireland are much lower than in any other member state except Greece.

In response to the international economic upturn, there are signs of improvement in the labour markets of many countries. Unemployment has already fallen sharply in the United States and has broadly stabilised in the European Community. Although still rising in Ireland, the rate of increase in unemployment has slackened considerably.

That is because there are fewer employed.

While the total on the live register at end-February 1984 showed an increase of 27,600 on the position of a year earlier, this compared with an increase of 42,700 in the year to the end of February 1983 for most of which year the Deputies opposite were on this side of the House. The numbers working short-time have also fallen by half during the past year.

They are counted as full-time now.

The Deputy has just made a most uninformed remark. He is wrong about that. These improvements illustrate that just as the deterioration in the world economic environment in the wake of the second oil shock exacted a very high price in terms of lost employment in Ireland, we can expect to benefit significantly from the upturn.

Would the Minister like to go abroad for a few days? He appears to be lost.

I regret that Deputies opposite seem to be more concerned with what is the next most outrageous statement they can make than with the subject we are discussing here. If they spent less time making outrageous statements and more time thinking about the issues perhaps they could make a more constructive contribution.

There is no support on the Minister's side of the House at all. They are not interested in what he has to say.

However, to optimise the benefit to the economy of the recovery it is essential that our goods and services be made more competitive; domestic cost pressures must be kept below those of our competitors. Given determination by all concerned I am confident that we can meet successfully the employment challenge that is facing us.

Do the Labour Party agree with that?

It is clear from what I have said that the Government's commitment is to tackle resolutely the problem of unemployment. Government policies have already lead to significant improvements in economic performance in a number of key areas which are essential if we are to make real headway in terms of increasing total employment within our economy. We have already initiated a number of measures that will have a direct effect on employment and there is no reason why we should stop.

Was the Minister listening to Nigel Lawson today?

Deputy O'Kennedy, in the course of his remarks, made a number of statements which need a little more analysis but I regret I will not have a lot of time to deal with some of those points.

The Minister left it until the end.

Deputy O'Kennedy referred to the question of planning. I am afraid the Deputy is in danger of being one of those people who will create, willy-nilly, the impression that a plan can solve everything. I do not think he really believes that.

It would help to have one.

What is needed, as I said in connection with my remarks about our discussions with the social partners, is a consensus within the country on one very simple thing——

Who runs the country, the Government or the social partners?

I am talking about what we need in terms of a consensus. I should like the opportunity to express what that consensus should be about because it is my view that Deputy O'Kennedy believes this himself. That consensus should be about one simple thing, that we will decide that we are going to give priority to employment over any other consideration, that we will give priority to employment over income and give priority to employment over many of the other things which enter into income and which many of us do not count as income. It should be about giving priority to employment, particularly to our young people, over the acquisition by ourselves individually and as a community of extra services being made available. That is the single most important consensus we must bring about. That is what the Government are doing constructively with our social partners. It is on the basis of a real analysis of the factors——

(Interruptions.)

The Government are acting constructively and not on the basis of the pretensions behind the remarks made by Deputies on the other side.

The Minister sits down to applause from the crowded benches on the Government side.

I am calling Deputy Fitzgerald.

My greatest problem in contributing to the debate is that obviously the Minister and I live in different worlds. In fact, the Minister and the majority of ordinary people live in different worlds. When a Minister for Finance is not aware of the major problems facing the country, then we need a change of Government urgently. I will quote from the Minister's speech in support of what I am saying. In the third line of his speech he stated: "There has been an easing in the unemployment trend since the Government took office". I take it he is saying that the percentage of growth in the unemployment figures has been dropping but he is taking a percentage of a bigger figure. The Government are falling down-hill and that is the danger facing the country.

We did not hear one new idea from the Minister for Finance. He is the person saddled with the responsibility of directing our economy but he had nothing new to offer. Instead we had a recital of what he regarded as successful progress in the past 15 months. Where can the ordinary people see that progress? Where can those people in the Labour Party — whose benches are empty tonight — see that progress? They are absent because they were ashamed to sit behind the Minister and hear what he had to say in this House tonight.

This righteous Minister has lectured us for a long time on what should and must be done. He was regarded as Garret's favourite son, as Garret's answer to solve all our problems. He was thrown into press conferences and public debates on many occasions in the euphoric, halcyon days of the latter part of 1982 when a Government had been brought down by whatever devious means — and I am sure we will be hearing more about that — and he presided over a joint programme drawn up by Fine Gael and Labour. I will quote from the second paragraph of that joint programme under the heading "Planning for Economic Recovery":

Permanent structures will be established by the Government to ensure effective economic and social planning. (1) The new Government will set up an employment task force of three economic Ministers led by the Taoiseach and the Tánaiste through which the two parties in Government will share responsibility for initiating the immediate employment-generating process.

That was 18 months ago. Tonight it would be hard to find three Government Ministers in the country — one would have to go to Australia and the western shores of the United States to contact them. That is the kind of immediate urgency this Government are applying to solve the unemployment problem. This is the kind of bluff we had from the Minister tonight when he tried, line after line in his speech, to say he was offering something new. The only worthwhile reference in his speech was with regard to improved industrial exports. It may be asked where these exports are emanating from: the answer is, they are coming from the new industries attracted here by Fianna Fáil Governments and Fianna Fáil Ministers and the various agencies working under those Governments. That is why there has been an improvement with regard to exports.

The Minister spoke about the provision of 10,000 or 11,000 new jobs by the IDA this year. I ask him to have open debate and discussion with the IDA on that figure. I was of the opinion that in this Minister we had an upright, righteous person who was not really a politician at all. I thought he had come through the bureaucratic system, and was a different animal to all of us over here and to people over there——

Fianna Fáil are people too.

This Minister was going to be very different. He would not use slightly inaccurate comments in his contributions in this House. Yet, in his speech he stated:

The level of activity organised under the aegis of the Youth Employment Agency has reached the point where this year some 50,000 young people will benefit for periods averaging somewhat less than six months from training and work experience programmes. Such is the scale of overall activity designed to assist young people that Ireland is now nearer to being in a position to adopt the EEC social guarantee for young people than any other member state of the Community.

The Minister is not bluffing this side of the House, although he may try to bluff some people. I welcome what will be done for these young people but this 50,000 figure is not a magic figure pulled out of the hat by the Youth Employment Agency. What is being done is the product of the work of AnCO for many years in building up their resources and expertise. It is due to the work of CERT and of the Youth Employment Agency and some of their schemes. The Minister is trying to mislead the House that what is being proposed now is something new and different. The Minister's provocation in the early part of his speech was designed to attract interruptions from this side of the House because his case was so weak.

The great difficulty I face tonight is to try to convince the Minister and the Government that something needs to be done urgently. The Minister told us that there has been an easing of the unemployment trend since the Government took office. Let me put on record something about that trend, in case the Minister does not know. The overall unemployment figure is now something more than 216,000. The figure was 170,000 when the Government first took office, when they referred to it as being disastrous. We are a little more than two months from the June examinations, after which a net 30,000 more will come on the employment market looking for jobs. Facing that, the trend in February has been frightening.

I will take the cities and their hinterlands first and show the unemployment increase in the last year. At the end of February 1983 Dublin city had 50,437 unemployed, but by the end of last February the figure was 61,183, an increase of more than 20 per cent. That does not show much of an easing in the unemployment trend. In February 1983, Cork city had 10,100 people unemployed but by the end of last February the figure had risen to 12,782, an increase of more than 25 per cent. The figures for the city and county of Cork in the same period are 17,844 increasing to 22,181 in February last, a worsening of the unemployment trend by 25 per cent. How can we reconcile these figures with the statement that there has been an improving trend in the unemployment figures? How can we call this good Government if a Minister is prepared to come in here and say there has been an easing in the trend? I have figures for Limerick, Waterford and Galway which are equally bad.

Let us have a look at the Cork region. Dunlop's have closed and we are threatened with the loss of Ford. There is a threat over Youghal Carpets, we have lost Metal Products. Avair have been closed with consequential job losses that will be disastrous to Cork Airport activities and for the industrial and tourist life of the Cork region. No efforts have been made to date to restore that service or to provide an alternative. That airline provided an excellent service for Cork and it represented more than 9 per cent of the total through-put of passengers at Cork Airport, somewhere in the region of 25,000, and about 30 per cent of the total tourist traffic through Cork Airport. There is worse news tonight. I understand that ICL informed the Minister for Communications today — of course the Minister is about to depart for some continental capital; Paris I think — that they are not interested in running the Cork to Swansea ferry next summer.

Deputy O'Kennedy put many points to the Minister tonight but the Minister and his colleagues seem to decry everything said on this side — they do not want to hear it because they are too interested in defending their indefensible position. That ferry service, which we had hoped would continue to operate at least during the summer, is so important that I call on the Minister to call on his colleagues before the night has passed in an effort to restore that link. That link is not confined to helping the Cork region. It extends to the entire Munster region, particularly the south west, covering Cork and Kerry. The employment in the tourism industry in that region, to which Deputy O'Kennedy referred as being really developed, is 2,000 people. It has been allowed to run down and hence the danger of the link with Wales being broken. There have been tensions between B and I and ICL. We cannot be blamed for that, but a cartel of people were genuinely interested, including Cork Harbour Commissioners, ICL, Cork County Council, Cork Corporation and involvement by the Swansea Harbour Authority. All those people were prepared to come together provided the Government gave some sort of guarantee. That guarantee was not forthcoming. As I have siad, 2,000 people were involved directly with many others indirectly involved.

This adds to the dreadful unemployment position in that region. It means the Government have no commitment to solving unemployment. The Minister knows that the greater the downturn in activity the less income the State will earn and therefore the greater the cost to the State.

I live in a city and the Minister is probably a bit luckier living in a county town where the impact of unemployment may not be so severe. Where I live unemployment is worsening daily, confidence is sinking, young people are seriously concerned about their future, the crime rate is increasing. We talk about youth employment. Adult employment today is equally serious. How many of us in our weekly clinics meet fathers of families whose stamps have run out, who no longer can receive pay-related or unemployment benefit, who are back to unemployment assistance of £28.50 for a single man or a married man with a wife and two children on £65.15 per week. That is what we are faced with this year and no effort being made by the Government except to tell us that they are meeting the social partners, that they are looking for a concensus. This is a way to postpone what they told us would be immediate action a year and a half ago. That immediate action has been slowed considerably and unemployment has continued to grow. Hence the empty Labour benches and the embarrassment and disappointment of the Labour Party with the performance of the Government.

None whatsoever.

Somebody sent for two Fine Gael Deputies to make sure the Minister would not be lonely.

I am glad they are from the agricultural sector because I was about to move to that. I admire one of those Deputies who in the past three weeks has been trying to stress the importance of the pig industry in the west. That industry is equally important to the city and county I represent because of the high employment it once gave in Cork. We were told today that the Minister for Agriculture has yielded on the levy. In typical fashion he has said: "It is over to Garret". Perhaps the relationship between them is not very good. He has put it up to Garret now to save the situation.

(Interruptions.)

It was the slickest little pass I ever saw.

The Taoiseach is left holding the ball and I regard him as a good dropper, a butterfingers.

Debate adjourned.
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