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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 11 Jun 1991

Vol. 409 No. 6

Adjournment Debate. - Dublin Heroin Problem.

At Question Time on 2 May 1991 the Minister stated, as reported at column 1995 of the Official Report, that the view of the Garda concerning the heroin problem in Dublin was that there was some sign of increased activity but that it did not constitute a serious problem. I find it very difficult to accept or understand that assessment because in the area of Dublin I represent, in particular the north inner city, heroin is definitely a serious problem. There are two specific locations, one little more than a stone's throw from O'Connell Street and the other close to the Financial Services Centre, where heroin is openly available and on sale on the public streets. There is an equally serious problem in many other parts of Dublin, for example, the main shopping district in Ballyfermot and the general south inner city area where the concentration appears to be on the Thomas Street district.

I listened to the city councillors who represent these areas at the monthly meeting of Dublin City Council last night and they certainly regard the heroin problem as a major and serious one. This leads me to believe that either the Minister or those advising him are out of touch with the extent of the problem on the ground or that we do not want to publicly admit that the problem is so serious.

The Minister also stated on 2 May 1991 at column 1990 of the Official Report that he could reassure the House that the problem of drugs was one which would continue to receive the highest priority. City councillors who represent many areas of Dublin city do not believe him. They say the Ballyfermot shopping district has virtually been taken over by the drug dealers and that despite many appeals for action nothing has happened. The councillors representing the south inner city have called for a special local Garda drug unit for their area but nothing has been done. Increasingly it is my view that the heroin problem does not get a high priority, never mind the highest priority because it is a problem associated almost exclusively with disadvantaged urban working class areas. If there were such a problem in an affluent middle class area of Dublin, there would be a massive Garda response, of that I have no doubt.

In the early eighties, heroin was largely concentrated in the inner city areas. Today, heroin features in most urban working class parts of the city and suburbs. Heroin is directly related to much of the petty crime in the city. The Minister says that the number of crimes committed has been reduced. The fact is that day in and day out the crime of heroin dealing is going on unhindered, unrecorded and unrecognised in the Minister's crime statistics. The Minister stated in columns 1995-96 of 2 May 1991: "The position today is very different from that which prevailed in the early and mid-eighties when bigger quantities of heroin were being handled in a more organised manner by hardened criminals".

Is the Minister aware that one of the top heroin godfathers of the early eighties — a member of the Dunne family — was caught redhanded with almost £500,000 worth of heroin, charged with possession and with intent to supply, and returned for trial, and yet this matter has never been finalised? Is the Minister aware that this same member of the Dunne family is still involved supplying heroin through the many contacts he made in the early eighties; that he is now based in Birmingham and that pushers travel to him and return with their heroin supply to wreak havoc on our communities? Will the Minister say why no action has been taken to bring this individual to justice? He is not alone, other criminal elements from the early eighties are now based in London and other British cities and an increasing number of pushers travel to them for their deadly supplies.

I appeal to the Minister to do the following: first, publicly recognise and state that there is a very serious heroin problem in certain areas of Dublin city; second, set up special local Garda drug units in those areas because it is only by a combination of local knowledge and effective surveillance that the dealers can be dealt with. There is still no such unit in the south inner city where the heroin problem first began and continues today; third, where special Garda units already exist, as in my own area, and they work very well, ensure that they have all the resources they require; and fourth, target those Irish sources of supply now operating from British cities. I ask the Minister to give this matter his highest priority.

Having referred specifically by name to certain parts of Dublin, I have to state that the vast majority of the local people are disgusted with what is going on and want it dealt with urgently. I have not named any area that has not been referred to publicly elsewhere as I do not wish to stigmatise any community.

The suggestion that there is an upsurge in drug abuse in this country which is now reaching epidemic proportions has been dealt with by the Minister for Justice as recently as 2 May 1991, as Deputy Gregory has said, in reply to parliamentary questions on the subject from Deputies Mitchell and Durkan and again last week on 6 June in my reply to Deputy Barrett.

I do not propose to reiterate what the Minister for Justice has already said but it is important to make the following essential points. This issue was discussed in depth with the Garda authorities. They report that drug dealing activities are taking place in certain parts of Dublin and that there has been an increase in the level of seizures in recent years. I think Deputy Gregory would agree with that. The Garda say, however, that there is no question of the problem being of the scale which existed some years ago. The Garda authorities also say that they have no evidence of any significant increase in heroin abuse in Dublin city or elsewhere in the country and they point out that the drug problem in this country is predominantly that of cannabis abuse.

Having said that the Garda are keenly aware that there are some heroin dealing activities associated with certain areas of Dublin. Specific measures have been taken by the Garda to counteract such activities and have resulted in a considerable number of detections of drug related offences. These measures are continuing and the Garda are monitoring the situation very closely. I am aware that one of today's papers carries a report of drug abuse problems in Ballyfermot.

The Garda authorities inform me that they are aware that there is a problem in this area in relation to cannabis and morphine tablet abuse. The area is receiving every attention from the Garda and members of the Drug Squad are being specifically assigned to assist with the problem. The Garda authorities are satisfied that the measures being taken are proving successful in that since the beginning of this year 50 people have been arrested, 40 of whom have been charged in relation to drug offences in the Ballyfermot area. The House can be assured that this problem is being taken very seriously indeed, and that whatever further action may be required to tackle the problems in these areas will be taken.

Todays'Evening Press referred to the article in the current issue of The Garda Review which reported that 100 plain clothes gardaí have been removed from the streets and that this has decimated the surveillance capacity of the Drugs Squad in particular. The Garda authorities have informed me that the members concerned were reassigned to plain clothes duties about ten days ago and are being used to saturate areas with crime problems, particularly drugs. This is in addition to the other measures to which I referred earlier.

I would like to emphasise that there is no complacency in the attitude of the Government or of the Garda towards the drug problem. Dealing with this problem remains a very high priority, and is continuing to receive every attention from a law enforcement point of view. All members of the Garda Síochána deal with law enforcement aspects of drug misuse in their operational area. In addition, specific Garda drug squads operate in Dublin, Cork and Limerick and at present small specialist units are in operation in Dublin's north inner city, Ballymun, Ballyfermot and Tallaght.

Similar specialist units are set up on a temporary basis in other areas as required. The strategies employed include intelligence gathering and analysis, surveillance, targeting and monitoring the activities of suspects, as well as routine investigations. I am informed by the Garda authorities that they are satisfied that these resources for dealing with the problem are adequate.

It is, of course, vitally important to ensure that illicit drugs cannot be easily smuggled into this country and for this reason the Garda maintain a high level of on-going liaison with Interpol and with police and customs authorities throughout Europe, including the UK authorities. There is, of course, also a need to develop and co-ordinate effective measures against drugs on an international level, and this problem is being addressed at a number of fora in which representatives of our Department are actively involved.

My colleague, the Minister for Finance, Deputy Reynolds, in reply to a question tabled by Deputy Spring on 22 May 1991, gave details of the compensatory measures which will be taken by law enforcement agencies in member states to combat drug trafficking arising from the removal of internal frontiers in the European Community at the end of 1991. There is nothing I can usefully add to that reply.

I would point out that on the legislative side both the Minister for Justice and I have announced plans which will make a major contribution towards the fight against drugs. Very shortly legislation will be published to provide for the seizure and confiscation of the proceeds of drug trafficking and money laundering. I have no doubt that this legislation will be widely welcomed. However, I would emphasise what has already been said in this House, that law enforcement on its own will never solve the drugs problem. This is an area in which the role of parents, teachers and other agencies caring for our young people is at least important as the Garda response.

The need for a national drug strategy has been recognised by the Government. My colleague, the Minister for Health, Deputy O'Hanlon, recently launched the Government strategy to prevent drug misuse. As chairman of the National Coordinating Committee for Drug Abuse I was pleased that together with the committee we produced this very important report for the Government. Our intention is to tackle the drug problem on every front. Realistic and achievable objectives have been set for the reduction both in the supply and demand for drugs. Deputy Gregory has made a number of important statements and he seems to have a great deal of information. I suggest that if the Deputy has this information he make it available to the Minister for Justice——

The Garda have it all.

——or myself or to the Garda Síochána. The Deputy has mentioned various people, including past godfathers. Due to the vigilant efforts of the Garda Síochána these people were brought to justice, the courts dealt with them and they are now behind bars.

The Minister should check his records.

If people are operating from another jurisdiction and the Deputy has information to suggest to the House and to the Garda Síochána that drugs are being supplied by these people or their friends, we will be only too delighted to avail of that information if the Deputy has not already made it available. In liaison with Interpol and the various international agencies we will see to it that this situation is curtailed. I have made it quite clear that everything possible is being done to ensure that the problem of drug abuse is tackled effectively. I hope we can co-operate to control this dreaded problem.

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