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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 4 May 1994

Vol. 442 No. 3

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Local Authority Housing.

Proinsias De Rossa

Ceist:

14 Proinsias De Rossa asked the Minister for the Environment the steps, if any, he intends to take to deal with the growing waiting lists for local authority housing, highlighted in the housing statistics for June 1993; the housing allocation which will be made for each housing authority for 1994; the way in which the additional moneys announced for housing will be allocated; the total number of new local authority lettings in 1993 and the expected number in 1994; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Peadar Clohessy

Ceist:

33 Mr. Clohessy asked the Minister for the Environment the number of local authority house completions in 1993; the steps, if any, that are being taken to meet the sharp increase of 23 per cent in the number of households seeking accommodation referred to in the NESC report of November 1993; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Peadar Clohessy

Ceist:

42 Mr. Clohessy asked the Minister for the Environment the number of approved applicants for local authority houses; the expected time-span within which their housing needs will be met; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Michael Creed

Ceist:

108 Mr. Creed asked the Minister for the Environment the number of approved housing applicants on waiting lists in each local authority area, including Urban District Councils and Town Commissions, at present.

Bernard J. Durkan

Ceist:

109 Mr. Durkan asked the Minister for the Environment whether he has quantified the current extent of housing need as determined by the local authorities; and if he will make a statement on the matter, with particular reference to the way in which he proposes to meet the need.

I propose to take Questions Nos. 14, 33, 42, 108 and 109 together.

Full details of each housing authority's assessment of housing needs in March 1993 were published in the Annual Housing Statistics Bulletin, 1993 together with details of local authority housing completions, purchases of existing dwellings and lettings during 1993. The housing needs of towns with town commissioners are included in the returns made by the relevant county council. Copies of the bulletin are available in the Oireachtas Library.

A total of 28,624 households were assessed by the local authorities as being in need of housing — an increase of 23 per cent on the March 1991 figure of 23,244 households. However, within that overall increase, many of the categories of need remained reasonably stable. The largest increase — 58 per cent — occurred in the category "unable to afford existing accommodation" with the categories of "overcrowding" and "involuntary sharing" showing much smaller but still significant increases. Affordability rather than quality is the main reason for the increase.

A sum of £30.2 million was paid by the health boards to private landlords in rent subsidies. This indicates that people are opting for unaffordable accommodation rather than mobile homes which used to be the practice. There are now few people in that category.

The Government's plans for responding to housing needs are set out in the Programme for a Partnership Government which states clearly that the aim of the Government's policies will be to reduce pressure on local authority waiting lists to the greatest extent possible. In particular, the Government is committed to speeding up implementation of the plan for social housing and to making a much more substantial provision for local authority housing. These commitments are reiterated in the Programme for Competitiveness and Work and are being met in full.

Almost 4,900 local authority first-time lettings were made by local authorities in 1993 and it is expected that this number will increase substantially in 1994 as a result of the threefold expansion of the programme of starts since 1992. Between the local authority, voluntary and other programmes, together with vacancies arising in the local authority rented housing stock, over 9,000 households in housing need will be accommodated in 1994 and again in 1995, giving a total of 18,000 families, compared to 7,100 in 1993 and 6,100 in 1992. Thus, annual social housing output will have increased by 50 per cent in two years, significantly improving general access to housing and shortening the length of time on waiting lists. A breakdown of actual social housing output in 1992 and 1993 and projected social housing output in 1994 is given in Table 1 which will be circulated in the Official Report.

Some 3,800 local authority houses were "started" last year and 1,569 were completed by the local authorities. Both of these figures include 369 houses which were acquired by local authorities. In 1994 the vast majority of 1993 starts will be completed and a further 3,500 dwellings will be started which will maintain the greatly expanded programme; in other words, a total of 7,000 houses will be under construction during 1994. This expansion in the local authority housing programme has been achieved without recourse to large scale local authority housing on greenfield sites. The emphasis in the programme remains on the provision of smaller infill sites and on developments which are integrated with existing communities. We are also now seeing a significant degree of purchasing of existing houses by local authorities with, as I said, 369 existing houses purchased last year. Details of individual local authority authorised starts and capital allocations for 1994 are given in Table 2 which will be circulated in the Official Report.

The overall housing capital allocation for 1994 is almost £295 million, an increase of over £105 million or 56 per cent on the 1993 outturn of £189 million. Table 3, which will be circulated in the Official Report, compares the main housing capital outturns for 1993 with the corresponding provisions for 1994.

The 1994 budget contained the following special capital provisions: an extra £12 million for the local authority house building programme increasing the figure of £92.5 million in 1993 to £166 million in 1994, an increase of 80 per cent, an extra £2.5 million provided for the remedial works scheme, an extra £1.5 million for the installation of bathrooms; an extra £2 million for the task force on housing aid for the elderly; a special new provision of £3 million to supplement the resources of local authorities in meeting the cost of replacement of defective windows in their large flat complexes. This amount has been allocated (£2.425 million to Dublin Corporation, £425,000 to Cork Corporation, £150,000 to Limerick Corporation) on the basis that these authorities will make a matching contribution from their own resources. In other words, for that £3 million we will have £6 million worth of new windows.

The local authority housing programme is complemented by the range of measures introduced in the plan for social housing and I will now outline progress in relation to each of these schemes.

There was continued progress on the shared ownership scheme during 1993. At 31 December 1993, 3,245 approvals had issued and 1,600 transactions had been completed. The number of completions during 1993 was 1,019.

Over 600 houses have been identified as suitable under the improvement works in lieu of the rehousing scheme to 31 December 1993. Work was completed on 176 houses up to 31 December 1993 and work was in progress on 59 houses at that date.

Since its inception, authorities have sold 917 sites under the sale of sites scheme up to 31 December 1993; 770 sites were approved for sale in 1993.

Activity under the mortgage allowance scheme has fallen off in 1993, possibly as a result of the introduction of the 1993 tenant purchase scheme, 161 houses were returned to local authorities under the scheme in 1993 compared to 179 in 1992.

In 1993 eight projects were completed under the rental subsidy scheme containing 141 units, 17 projects were under construction containing just over 400 units while a further 59 projects were approved or proposed containing just over 1,300 units. Full details of these schemes in relation to each housing authority were published in the Annual Bulletin of Housing Statistics, 1993. The schemes are currently under review to identify any changes that may be needed to increase their effectiveness.

The Economic and Social Research Institute is, at the request of my Department, carrying out an independent, in-depth analysis and evaluation of the housing needs as presented in the local authority assessments. The objective is to provide a better insight into the nature of the needs, and the most appropriate solutions to them; to identify the factors influencing trends in the level of needs; and help to develop methods of forecasting future trends. The study will also examine the consistency of approach between housing authorities in the measurement of needs. The results of the study will be published in due course.

I thank the Minister for the dazzling statistics he has just read to us. However, we are not blinded to the central fact that there are now almost 30,000 families on the housing waiting list, nearly 25 per cent more than three years ago when this Government took office. What will the Minister do to bring the housing provision even to the level promised in 1991 by the former Minister for the Environment, Mr. Flynn, to provide 10,000 dwellings a year under the plan for social housing, a figure not reached in the three years since the publication of that plan?

The central fact is that 18,000 homeless families will be provided with homes between 1994 and 1995 and the overwhelming majority of these will come off the housing list, thereby greatly reducing it. We are now housing 9,000 families per year and I am satisfied with that level.

A number of questions are being dealt with here, and a number of Deputies offering. I appeal for brevity so that I can accommodate all concerned.

How many new houses are being built in the Dublin area and what is the average cost of each? Is it the Minister's policy that local authorities should purchase houses that become available on the open market?

Five hundred houses are being built in Dublin city. The other figures and the costings requested by the Deputy will be found in the table that is being circulated in the Official Report.

Does the Minister not know the average cost?

The cost varies quite an amount, even within Dublin. An average cost does not mean very much because of variations between sites. I do not have the figures but if the Deputy wants the average figure for Dublin, I can get it for her.

Will the Minister accept that it can be cheaper to buy a house on the open market in some areas than to build a new one?

It is policy to encourage local authorities to buy houses on the open market and that is now meeting with a level of success as 25 per cent of houses provided last year were purchased. I am happy with that level. However, there is the danger that the local authority might distort the market for people who want to avail of council loans to buy their own houses. We must strike a balance between the two, the local authority should not be in competition with people on its housing list who might get a shared ownership loan to come off that list while at the same time encouraging local authorities to acquire house on the open market which are good value for money rather than building new ones.

I am disappointed that the Minister is satisfied with his programme for dealing with this serious problem. He must never visit the south part of Dublin.

If the Minister is satisfied that 120 houses are being built this year to meet a demand for over 1,300 houses, it will be about 12 or 13 years before the present list is cleared, not to speak of additions to that list each year. When will the Government introduce a proper housing policy to deal with the whole area of housing as distinct from housing used for profitmaking? Further, will the Minister agree it is quite ridiculous that local authorities are now buying back, at market prices, local authority houses sold to tenants for much less than the local authorities are now paying for them? Will the Minister agree that the absence of a housing policy is causing much hardship, particularly to people living in the greater Dublin area and that the statistics quoted here are irrelevent to families on the waiting list for four or five years? Families with four children living in one room are not interested in statistics. When will the Minister produce a proper housing policy?

The figures are of interest to people on the housing list because they are positive and the figure given by the Deputy is deliberately distorted. He knows that the direct build programme in his area is about one-third of the total provision of homes under the plan for social housing.

Not at all.

The Deputy is well aware that substantial funds are being allocated to upgrade accommodation in his area and to provide bathrooms and windows in houses and flats in his area.

Provisions for bathrooms in 1994?

The Government's housing policy is clearly stated in the Programme for Government.

The Government does not have a policy.

We are implementing that policy, part of which gives tenants in council houses the right to purchase their homes. Is Fine Gael suggesting it is opposed to council tenants purchasing their homes?

If and when they purchase their homes, is Fine Gael opposed to them selling their houses at a future date?

Back to the local authority.

Is that what Fine Gael supports? The Government supports the right of tenants to purchase their homes and to sell them, in due course, if they wish.

Will the Minister agree that with a total of 30,000 people on the housing waiting list people are not putting their names on it because they know they do not have a chance of getting a house? Therefore, the real figure is much higher than 30,000. Will the Minister agree also that the approximate 1,000 houses completed in 1993 is less than one-third of those completed in 1983 when the crisis was not nearly as bad as it is now?

I repeat that between 1994 and 1995 the Government will provide 18,000 homes for people who do not have homes, a total of 9,000 homes per year. By selectively quoting one aspect of the Programme for Social Housing and saying that only 1,000 houses were provided the Deputy is distorting the facts.

The number is one-third of the figure in 1983.

The reality is that 9,000 houses will be built per annum, not 1,000.

One-third of the number built in 1983.

(Carlow-Kilkenny): Has the system of funding changed this year whereby councils provide two-thirds of the money and the Government one-third? They receive two-thirds by selling their houses and are running out of houses to sell.

Adequate funding will be provided under the system that has always existed, capital funding from county councils and additional funding from the Department. There will be no change in the system.

In relation to the figure the Minister quoted, as many young couples and elderly people are living in atrocious conditions, will be encourage local authorities to purchase derelict or vacant houses and renovate them at a reasonable cost? Will he place more emphasis on the provision of rural cottages which the Government does not appear to favour? As many people would like to move from urban to rural areas and sites are available for the provision of such cottages, this would be an ideal opportunity to encourage people to move to rural areas.

It is because people are living in unacceptable conditions that the Government made provision for 9,000 homes to be built per year. On the question of rural cottages, the Deputy's council — or any other council which receives an allocation from the Department — can build rural cottages only if that is their policy. That matter is not decided by me or the Government. We encourage policies that ensure small rural communities are maintained. The county manager, in consultation with his councillors, make that decision. Large greenfield sites are no longer available and that presents many difficulties, but in the past two years Dublin city has provided a worthwhile example of the use of infill sites.

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