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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 18 May 1995

Vol. 453 No. 2

Adjournment Debate. - Dublin Inner City Educational Needs.

I raised this matter on the day of my election in 1982 in the arrangements the then leader of Fianna Fáil, Mr. Haughey, made with me in exchange for support in forming a Government. I am sure most Members remember that occasion. It was such an essential demand that I included it in response to those who elected me and because the area had been neglected for so long. I refer to the need for a second level community college in the north inner city.

Since 1982 plans have been drawn up for a community college. They were revised on several occasions but have remained on the shelf. No Minister saw fit to approve the plan. The reason approval has not been given is that the site for the college, which Dublin Corporation made available, is located in the poorest urban area in the State, an area bedevilled by drug abuse, high unemployment and other social problems. The only way children in that area will break the spiral of poverty is through education.

Some years ago a research consultant, Kieran McKeown, was commissioned by the Daughters of Charity of St. Vincent de Paul to report on the area. He stated:

...44 per cent of the population of the north inner city of Dublin left school before the age of 15. This is significantly higher than the 27 per cent and the 29 per cent who left school before the age of 15 in the Greater Dublin Area and Ireland in that year respectively.

He also pointed out that the level of non-attendance is higher in the north inner city than in Dublin city and gave the scandalous statistics that a mere 1 per cent of children living in the Dublin 1 postal district go onto third level education.

A decision was taken by the Government that fees should be abolished for those affluent people who attended college. It is a great scandal that not only do children in north inner city Dublin not go on to third level education but many of them do not get through second level. That is not a criticism of the many primary schools in the area or the teachers who are so committed. It is a tragedy to see the teaching staff and principals of those schools plead with the Department of Education to retain a teacher or provide an additional resource or remedial teacher. It should be a matter of public policy that schools in an area with so many problems should be given all the resources they require.

It is the view of all educationalists who have examined the problems in this area that a second level college specifically geared to the children in that area is necessary. When the children leave primary school they go to schools around the area and outside of it. Many of them leave after a year or two. If the community had the political muscle and ability to use the media to highlight their cause, the school would have been provided a long time ago but it is in the nature of disadvantage that such communities do not have that influence.

The Minister for Education has become the champion of the affluent third level student. This is an opportunity for her to show that she believes in social justice and equality of educational opportunity. She should act on that belief by giving the approval to go ahead for this community college.

I thank the Deputy for raising this matter and also for the interesting way in which he rattled the skeletons of history. It gives me the opportunity, on behalf of the Minister for Education, to clarify the position.

There are eight post-primary schools, six secondary and two vocational, located in the north inner city of Dublin. The Deputy reminded us that in 1982 the then Government, as part of a package of measures for that area which, if memory serves me correctly, became known as the Gregory deal, gave a commitment to provide a new post-primary school at Waterford Street/Sean MacDermott Street. It was intended that the school would be a community college under the City of Dublin vocational education committee and would replace existing schools at Parnell Square for girls and at Denmark Street for boys. A site was acquired by the City of Dublin vocational education committee. The position of the provision of a school was reviewed regularly in subsequent years in light of declining enrolments and demographic trends. The indications were that the projected number of second-level students would not justify building a new school, solely catering for second-level pupils.

The Department is again undertaking a review of the educational needs of Dublin north inner city, including the Seán McDermott Street area. The case for the provision of a second level school is being re-examined. The issues are complex and broader than just deciding whether to build a new post-primary school.

The Deputy may be assured that in view of the special circumstances of the Seán McDermott Street area the Minister is extremely anxious to expedite the provision of educational facilities which are most appropriate to the needs of the area. The Department will shortly be approaching the City of Dublin vocational education committee with a view to discussing the development of the site at Seán McDermott Street.

The Minister is also conscious that the only way many of the young people in that area can escape is through education. She is also concerned about the low level of access to third level education which is a feature of the disadvantage suffered by children from the north inner city area of Dublin 1. A technical working group has just reported to the steering committee on the future development of the higher education sector. This report shows unequal participation rates at third level for young people from different social and economic backgrounds. Overall, young people from less well off backgrounds, including the Dublin inner city, have a much lower chance of access to third-level education.

All the available evidence indicates that the struggle against disadvantage is won or lost at first and second level. The Minister has taken a range of measures to improve and promote participation in the education system by students from disadvantaged backgrounds. When the report of the steering committee is available consideration will be given by the Department to appropriate measures which might be taken to improve access to third level education for students from Dublin north inner city and other areas where there are similar problems of very low participation in third level education.

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