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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 7 Jun 1995

Vol. 454 No. 1

Private Members' Business. - Coastal Protection: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann condemns the Government for its failure to put in place a comprehensive programme of action to combat coastal erosion, for its lack of interest in the problems which this is causing for many coastal communities and for the exclusion of the worst-affected areas in many towns throughout the country, including Bray, from a range of special incentives to encourage private investment to facilitate the refurbishment of areas affected by coastal erosion.

I wish to share my time with Deputy Éamon Ó Cuív.

I am sure that is satisfactory and agreed.

All over the world people are seeking to exploit coastal regions in search of development opportunities and recreation. This has caused an increasing number of use conflicts and at the same time an increased awareness of the fragility and vulnerability of the coastal zone. In many countries it has led to an integrated view of the coastal zone as an entity that must be treated accordingly. It appears that increasing demographic pressure on the coast coincides with an increase in world wide coastal erosion. A survey by the International Geomorphological Society has revealed that coasts under the influence of man, as well as virgin coasts, are on average suffering. The present secular rise in ocean water level may be a significant cause, but in some regions also large development schemes undoubtedly add to the problems by arresting sediments before they reach the coast. The coastal zone is dynamic and has warranted increased research into coastal processes in recent decades. Universities throughout Europe and elsewhere are devoting much of their research efforts to the study of coastal problems and to developing modern tools.

All coastal problems have features in common. After all, wave and tide physics are universal and sandy beaches show similarities in their response to wave action. Yet, variations in local meteorology, geology, use pattern and so on, call for detailed knowledge of local coastal problems. It is, therefore, important to develop the local national expertise within those fields concurrently with the exchange of know-how and expertise of foreign institutions. This development should occur with a view to ensuring continuity, and understanding more global trends since coastal processes have to be studied over a considerable timespan.

The coast of Ireland represents a major national resource. It offers both economic and energy production potential, yet realisation of such potential must retain the high quality of our coastal environment. In the next 50 years our coastline faces further pressure from the consequences of global warming — sea level rise and increasing storm frequency and intensity — and from general reinforcement of socioeconomic exploitation and development. To deal with this increasing stress, it is necessary to reconsider our policies, plans and techniques for reacting to coastal problems and, in particular, we must view the coast as a natural system which needs to operate freely in order to remain stable. All developments should aim to work with, rather than against, this natural system. It is also important that a full inventory is made of our coastal resources as a basis for policy and planning. Such database should help identify areas at risk, assess the impact of sea level rise and provide an interactive medium for planners, engineers and developers. There is a requirement to re-educate the public which at present assumes all shoreline change is bad and must be resisted at any cost and with all possible means. The idea that we should adjust to the needs of the coast rather than subjugate it must be accepted by all.

Of the processes operating around our coast at present, erosion and its repercussions are the most celebrated and widely studied. Carter and Johnston in 1982 and Carter in 1991 estimated that there are at least 300 recognisable erosion problems around our coast affecting approximately 25 per cent of our coastline. The removal of shore material by waves and currents is the main cause of erosion, but the extent and form of erosion depends on a number of other factors. Wide flat beaches, characteristic of our north and west coasts, dissipate wave energy. Wide beach environments minimise the effects of high energy from the Atlantic swell. Although of quantitatively lower wave energy, the east coast is where most of our coastal erosion problems occur. The beaches are narrower and steeper in form and have been developed in relatively soft glacial sediment. Other natural factors affecting erosion on coasts include sea level rise, storminess, changes in sediment budgets and fluctuations in river discharge. Material eroded from the beach is often carried offshore and deposited in relatively shallow water. This sediment can act as protection for the coast, absorbing much of the wave energy before it reaches the shore. This sediment can be subjected to further transportation and its movement can result in the focus of erosion moving along the coast.

Since at least the 19th century with the growth in major engineering works along the coast, people have at all times initiated or increased erosion problems. Dredging, sand mining, ship wake generation, recreational activities, reclamation and the construction of harbours, sea walls and jetties force the coastal environment to change in some way to accommodate them. These activities may not affect the coast immediately, but they can cause problems over time and in some cases over considerable distances. For example, reclamation in Wexford Harbour more than 100 years ago has led to erosion problems on an eight kilometre stretch of Rosslare Bay. This is but one of numerous examples of coastal reclamation having led to subsequent sediment budget, erosion and deposition changes around the coastline.

The Clonakilty-Rosscarbery Bay area of south west Cork has undergone intensive study on erosion problems. This has resulted in the emplacement of gabions to help stabilise the dune front on two beaches, the reinforcement and rock armouring of a sea wall and the construction of tracks and fences in sand dune systems to control pedestrian access to the beach. The highest rates of erosion occur in cliffs of glacial material. At Blackwater in County Wexford, for example, erosion rates of up to 2.2 metres per annum have been recorded. The eroded material may be deposited in estuaries and related tidal bedforms. In this case the mouth of the River Slaney is the biggest sink. In addition, the sediment may form barriers, ridges or dunes downdrift of the erosion points. Some of the sediment may also be taken offshore and deposited on the shelf forming banks which are common in the shallow water of the west Irish sea.

The sediment which finds its way into ports, harbours and estuaries can cause problems for fishing and shell fish farming, radically changing local coastal environments. Sand dunes react to erosion in an equally complex way. Rates are difficult to quantify and major recession may occur in the wake of a storm, but between storms large quantities of sand may be blown back on to the foreshore causing accretion. The nature of sand dunes is changing due to human interference. Golf courses have been constructed on dune complexes modifying the dunes to the needs of developers. Grazing of cattle and sheep on sand dunes and sand sheet systems has influenced the ecology of Irish dunes for centuries. The recent application of fertilisers to dune soils threatens vegetation more drastically. Dunes in Ireland have been used as rabbit warrens for food for centuries. The removal of marram grass from dunes, for thatching purposes had the same effect.

Storms on the Irish coast between 1987 and 1992 caused severe erosion and extensive damage to coastal structures, many of which were built in the last century and are now in poor condition. An estimate of the cost of carrying out emergency repairs was put at £13 million as far back as 1990.

Ireland's population has increasingly been concentrated in coastal areas and many coastal towns and cities regularly experience flooding by the sea. The usual causes of urban flooding, rapid run-off from impermeable surfaces and the failure of storm drains to cope with sudden high volumes of water, are magnified in these estuary locations during high tides as terrestrial water finds its escape route cut off by sea water. An analysis of flooding in Cork City showed that there had been 292 floods there since 1841, most of them recorded in winter, especially in the months of November and March.

Much recent coastal work in Ireland has concentrated on the question of management, the ongoing concerns about erosion, storm damage and coastal zone planning added to by a fear of sea level rise which may result from the increasing global warming. It has been pointed out that, although knowledge of the coastal processes has improved in the past decade, theoretical knowledge of the response of coastal environments to rises in sea level is not yet adequate. More field measurement needs to be undertaken so that widely applicable models can be developed and put to use in planning management strategies for our coastlines.

Of course, coastal management is not a problem peculiar to Ireland. As a member of the European Union we have been involved in a number of programmes aimed at gathering, co-ordinating and improving the consistency of information on the coastal environment within the European Union. Those programmes have endeavoured to strengthen planning procedures and develop a concept of integrated management of coastal zones but community policy has not yet been developed to the maximum possible extent. For example, we need better and stronger legal instruments, improved management of Structural Funds in the protection of coastal zones, financial support for coastal pilot projects and, of course, measures to improve public participation.

A number of those programmes are continuing within the Commission. When faced with the prospect of rising sea levels, it is better to prepare early for planning and investing for change so that developments can be introduced gradually within the financial technological and personal constraints obtaining.

Traditionally, it could be said that Ireland has neglected this valuable asset, although arguably this country has one of the most scenic coastlines in Europe. However, it is now realised that coastal systems are frequently fragile, non-renewable and that the important tourism industry of the future will depend largely on the preservation of our coasts.

In circumstances of projected climate change coasts will be subjected to increased pressure, rendering it necessary to understand what is likely to occur and plan accordingly. A "needs study" of the entire coastline was carried out on a county basis to identify the basic land-forms present and to quantify the cost of the immediate remedial action required. Areas particularly sensitive to change were also identified. That study showed that out of a total coastline of 5,800 kilometres in the Republic over 1,500 kilometres are at risk, with some 490 kilometres requiring immediate attention at an approximate cost of £125 million.

That figure includes repairs to minor piers and harbours under the control of local authorities but excludes major harbours and those controlled by harbour boards. More than 500 of these piers and small harbours were generally identified as having been built in the last century. These have a significant impact on tourism, leisure activities and the livelihood of local fishermen. However, there is no specific budget allocation for their upkeep, many being in a state of serious disrepair.

The estimated costs of erosion control are based largely on traditional hard structural solutions whereas it is clear that, in future, a soft approach to coastal erosion management will be required in many cases. The removal of beach materials is another serious problem for some local authorities. A potentially more serious problem could arise in the near future if there are moves to exploit offshore sand banks as sources of construction materials. Both activities must be strictly controlled as failure to do so would be catastrophic for sections of our coastline.

The position regarding coastal erosion control in other countries, including Denmark, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the USA, was examined, and showed a trend towards total coastal management rather than treating erosion in isolation. Management systems worldwide range from virtually total control in countries like the Netherlands to none in underdeveloped Third World countries. As in other areas of human activity, it is recognised that development must be sustainable, that is fulfils the needs of the present generation without adversely affecting or compromising the needs of future generations. This is especially germane to coastal development where the resource is not infinite, when even minor adjustments to coastal processes can seriously affect the overall pattern, often over a timescale well beyond human life spans.

Present European Union policy and that in the immediate future must be seen to favour this total approach. While funding is generally not available for erosion protection schemes in anything like the volume required, there is at present a movement towards the development of a coherent strategy for coastal Europe involving the production of regional management plans. For example, the position obtaining in Denmark and the Netherlands is considered to be a good, general model for Ireland, with suitable modifications. It is interesting that the Danes have been able to advance technological solutions which would appear, at face value, to incur reasonable cost and be quite effective.

It is recommended that an agency charged with overall management of coastal affairs be established within a Government Department, most likely either that of the Marine or the Environment. The Department of the Marine has the requisite expertise in coastal engineering formally vested in the Office of Public Works and is the responsible authority under the Coastal Protection Act, 1963 and the Foreshore (Amendment) Act, 1992. The Department of the Environment controls planning matters on the coastline and, within the coastal zone, will also have responsibility for the Environmental Protection Agency.

In other countries it is considered essential that a single authority should have the regulatory role for onshore and offshore development within the coastal zone but the most important factor is the need for close co-operation and interaction between all relevant agencies. The proposed agency — the national coastal authority — would have close interaction with the Environmental Protection Agency and the Marine Institute along with local authority planning departments. It is envisaged that the new agency would be staffed largely from existing resources and would not require increased public sector employment. The national coastal authority would be responsible for developing policy on the needs of the entire coastal zone, including both the land and offshore waters contiguous to the coastline. Maritime local authorities would continue to manage the coastlines falling within their remit but central guidelines would be developed to ensure uniformity of approach.

When dealing with coastal erosion it is considered necessary to draw a distinction between response to slow, continuous erosion, where sediment is lost to the coastal system, and that to damage caused by infrequent storms. Following the Dutch model, the slow, continuous erosion would be the responsibility of the new central agency along with dealing with the implications of climate change, while the response to storms would continue to be a local responsibility.

New legal and financial arrangements are recommended. The existing Foreshore and Coastal Protection Acts should be replaced by a single coastal zone management Act similar to the United States Coastal Zone Management Act enacted there in 1972 and subsequently amended. In most other countries, including Ireland, a local contribution is required for most capital coastal works. However, in Ireland, as local authorities have limited scope for raising local taxes, it is recommended that a fund be established to respond to emergencies caused by storms. That fund, with annual contributions by local and central Government, should be available whenever such emergencies arise.

In a small country like ours, where most of the population lives within 80 kilometres of the sea and everybody benefits from the coast, strong central financial support can be justified. I am not saying, however, that the overall estimate for the cost of doing all the works could be undertaken immediately. It is clear that they would have to be carried out on a phased basis but we need the instruments, the authority and the necessary legislation to ensure a coherent response to what everybody recognises is a serious problem.

The accumulation of the basic data needed to manage the coast is perhaps the most vital need of all, especially in a situation of projected climate change. This includes water levels, tide patterns, wind and wave data as well as studies of sediment supply along the coast and the natural processes taking place. It is interesting that even on a cursory study, the difference between the west and east coast is evident. The collection of this data would be the responsibility of the new agency with the field work being carried out by staff of local authorities, the private sector and educational establishments, with possible input from voluntary bodies such as Coastwatch and An Taisce.

It is recommended that the local coastal zone management plans are developed for the coast under the general control of the central agency. The planning could be on a county or regional basis, although it might make more sense to combine areas of similar coastline as coastal processes do not recognise administrative boundaries. The recently published Coastline Management Plan — Brady Shipman Martin 1992— for the Wexford coastline provides a good model for planning.

It is considered that a favourable response could be expected to a request for EU funding on a much greater scale for both basic data collection and coastal zone planning as the approach appears to complement projected EU policies. The cost of running and administering the national coastal authority might even be partly funded in this way.

Education and expertise needs are considered. Traditionally, civil engineers have been mainly responsible for combating erosion, adopting a fairly rigid structural approach. While engineers should continue in a lead role in coastal management, they will require a much broader appreciation of the natural processes at work and of the contributions required from other disciplines such as geographers, environmental scientists, ecologists, etc. Solutions will be developed by a multidisciplinary approach but engineers with environmental training would appear to be in the best position for overall co-ordination.

All civil engineering students should have a basic appreciation of coastal management and mid-career training in specialist aspects should be available to keep abreast of modern developments. Mathematical modelling techniques have recently become available which vastly increase the capability for coastal management and which have directly led to a surge in understanding of the various coastal morphological processes over the past few years. Courses in physical planning should also include a module on the special needs of the coastal zone.

Relationships should be established between bodies in Ireland and expert agencies elsewhere, such as developed between Eolas and Danish Hydraulics. The Hydraulics Research Establishment would also be involved. The facilities of these and of other local educational establishments with special expertise would be used in the various studies required.

It is essential that a close working relationship is maintained with the relevant authorities and sources of expertise in Northern Ireland. Coastal problems span political boundaries and assistance for joint projects might be available from the International Fund for Ireland. All the above relationships would assist the exchange of expertise and technology transfer to take place and allow the development of a coherent European approach to overall coastal management.

A single new agency, the national coastal authority, should be established within an existing Government Department following the approach adopted in other countries. This agency would be responsible for all coastal matters and would have a regulatory role in development within the coastal zone. Central Government, through the proposed national coastal authority, should be responsible for combating ongoing coastal erosion, including dealing with the effects of climate change. Large scale beach nourishment at selected locations will probably be required and this should be managed and funded centrally.

Responding to isolated storm events would continue as a local responsibility but a funding system is required to ensure immediate and appropriate response to each emergency.

A single new Act, the coastal zone management Act, should replace the existing Foreshore Act and Coastal Protection Act. The coastal zone would be clearly defined and the public's right of access to beaches enshrined in law. Activities such as beach and offshore material removal would be strictly controlled. The legal status of areas of scientific interest should be strengthened by national by-laws, especially for sand dune systems.

The strategic importance to Ireland of the coastal zone should be recognised in all submissions to the European Union for Structural Fund assistance. Extensive data collection is required, including the establishment of an expanded network of water level measurement stations. This is especially important when considering the effects of predicted sea level rise. The cost of this data collection, research and necessary capital works should be included in these submissions.

The concept of coastal management, rather than coastal protection, would be in accord with policy trends in Europe and worldwide. Coastal zone management plans should be prepared for the coast, either on a regional or county basis. Overall planning guidelines should be issued and should reflect the sensitive and non-renewable nature of much of the coast with procedures to limit development within the coastal zone. The cost of developing these plans should also be included in European Regional Development Fund submissions.

A code of practice for coastal protection should be drawn up to ensure the uniformity and appropriateness of all works.

Recommendations for maintaining a large number of minor piers and harbours should be made by the new agency as a matter of urgency and specific funding provided to local authorities for this function. Expertise needs require expansion of existing technical and planning courses with in-service training provided for practising engineers and scientists. Education of the general public is also required to counter unrealistic expectations of coastal usage and performance.

Relationships should be established between Irish agencies and specialist organisations in other countries to facilitate technology transfer. In particular, close liaison should be maintained with authorities in Northern Ireland as coastal processes do not stop at political boundaries. Funding for joint projects should be sought from sources such as the International Fund for Ireland.

As a result of global warming, the world's temperatures are expected to rise over the next 40 or 60 years bringing about a rise in sea levels of up to 1.3 metres. In 1990, Devoy considered that "a rise in temperature overall in Ireland as a consequence of climate warming is, therefore, likely to be associated with fewer storms from the Atlantic, drier conditions in the west at least, and more of our weather dominated by continental conditions from the east, including increased frequency of easterly storms". He further felt that in the short term there would be increased intensity, if not frequency, of westerly storms over Ireland.

Devoy suggested that the likely impact of this on coastal erosion and damaged sea defences would be high. He concluded that "storms generated from the east will be able to gain greater access to the open west-east geological structure along the south coast". This scenario has obvious implications for County Waterford, in common with neighbouring coastal authorities. The problem areas are known in Counties Waterford and Wexford but the ability of local authorities to fund new sea defence works has been eroding faster than the nation's shores. Waterford County Council has spent almost £0.9 million as a result of storms over the years. Grant assistance was received from the Department of the Marine as part of a relief package introduced by the Government to remedy the destruction caused.

I want to make a final reference to this lest there be any misinterpretation of what we are seeking. It is clear that it will not be possible to cope with all these problems together. There has been a certain amount of neglect in the past.

I do not expect this Minister to immediately come up with solutions to questions that could not be solved up to now, but there is sufficient evidence to show that there is a dire necessity for change, for a new authority and new funding. It is possible now, because of the state of the national finances and the most privileged position of any Government for years, to do things which were not possible up to now. I hope that the response from the Minister will demonstrate his and the Government's commitment to ensuring that our natural resources, our coastline which is so vital for tourism and for our communities are adequately protected. The proposals we have put forward will greatly assist the Minister in his work.

I thank my colleague for tabling this very important motion. Coastal erosion and the problems associated with storm damage hit the headlines occasionally but are soon forgotten. With the onset of summer, everybody but the people living with and suffering the consequences has forgotten the terrible storm damage of January last. In my constituency we are still trying to pick up the pieces after that storm. Roads are still unrepaired and piers are so seriously damaged that the next storm could take them away. Land is vulnerable to further storms and nothing of any consequence has been done to repair the damage and prevent further coastal erosion.

Some time ago Galway County Council was asked by the Government to submit proposals for the prevention of coastal erosion in Galway. The county council promptly put forward proposals relating to areas of Galway Bay, Roundstone, Inisbofin, etc. but received no definitive commitment from the Department to provide funding to prevent further damage in these areas. In each of the cases mentioned not only is land likely to be lost through further storms but basic infrastructure like roads is at serious risk unless something is done. The Minister should visit some of these areas, particularly Inisbofin where the main road along the island is seriously at risk because no protective work has been carried out in the last few years.

This problem predates the present Government, but the Government has been handed, through the Structural Funds, the wherewithal to begin tackling the problem on a small scale. It is because of the work done by the previous Government that that money is available. It is incumbent on the present Government to draw up a programme of work and let us get on with it. We are now nearing midsummer's day and the sooner this work is done — and it should be done during the summer — less likely we are to have a huge extra bill in the wake of next winter's storms.

Legislation is necessary to provide statutory compensation to farmers who lose land through coastal erosion. There are areas where there is little possibility, in the context of available resources and the cost benefit, of keeping out the sea in the long term. However, where a sizeable part of a farmer's land is swept into the sea it is extraordinary that we shrug our shoulders and have no system to compensate farmers for such loss. Year after year, in the area adjacent to Cleggan in my constituency, the sea takes the few valuable acres that farmers have. To farmers in the better farming areas the loss of two or three acres of land might not be so serious but to lose 30 per cent of ten or so acres of Connemara land to coastal erosion over five or ten years is of serious consequence. Where the cost benefit would not justify major erosion prevention work, steps should be taken to compensate farmers for the loss of their land.

There are areas where the innovative use of small grants and community employment schemes could enable quite substantial works to be carried out to prevent further coastal erosion. I have in mind areas like Inis Meán and the other Aran Islands which contain good land which is at serious risk and where a small capital grant from either the Department of Arts, Culture and the Gaeltacht or from the Department of the Marine, allied to the work that could be done under community employment schemes, would ensure that this land was protected from the sea. I cannot understand the lack of flexibility and initiative and total inertia in regard to this problem. There seems to be a general lack of interest in the small coastal communities because they tend not to have much influence, particularly with the parties in Government.

An fhaid is atáim ar mo chosa agus dhá nóiméad fágtha agam ba mhaith liom rud eile a lua. Is é sin an t-íontas a bhí orm nuair a fógraíodh an scéim sa Cháinaisnéis go raibh airgead le tabhairt do bhailte beaga cois farraige le cúnamh a thabhairt dóibh athnuachan a dhéanamh, nach raibh ceantar an Chlocháin i gContae na Gaillimhe san áireamh. Is ceann de na bailte is sine turasóireachta sa tíre. Is baile é a bhfuil a gcion déanta le cupla blian anuas ag muintir na háite len é a fhorbairt. Is baile é a bhfuil go leor forbartha ag teastáil uaidh fós mar go bhfuil droch-bhall air. Cuireann sé iontas orm nar cuireadh isteach é faoin scéim sin le cúnamh a thabhairt don earnán príobháideach forbairt a dhéanamh ar bhaile mar sin.

When the scheme for seaside resorts was announced earlier this year, I highlighted the lack of interest in the more remote areas. I was amazed that the town of Clifden in my constituency, which has been a tourist resort for over 100 years, was omitted from the list. This town is in urgent need of refurbishment. In the last few years the people there have made efforts to do something about the appearance of their town. There is a need for major investment. However, the Government in its wisdom seems not to be aware that the town exists. I ask the Minister for the Marine, Deputy Barrett, and the Minister of State, Deputy Gilmore, to reconsider this oversight and include Clifden in this scheme.

I wish to share my time with the Minister of State at my Department, Deputy Gilmore.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

I move amendment No.1: To delete all words after "That" and substitute the following:

"... Dáil Éireann supports the Government's commitment to develop and implement a targeted coast protection programme in respect of the worst affected areas in the country, including Bray."

I am confident that the Dáil will carry this amendment because the Government recognises that coastal erosion is a very serious problem; the moneys assigned to coastal protection under the National Plan is a significant increase on recent years; the Government is committed to looking at the allocation of funding to see what more can be done; is drawing up a priority listing of works; a major scheme planned for Bray is due to start in autumn this year; and the Government is committed to the wider concept of coastal zone management of which coast protection is a part. In short, the Government has demonstrated a comprehensive targeted strategy in its approach to coastal erosion and related issues.

Before addressing the general issue of coastal protection, I would like to clarify any possible misconception regarding special incentives to encourage private investment to facilitate the refurbishment of areas affected by coastal erosion. There are no special incentives for such purposes in areas affected by erosion. The Government provides grant aid towards the cost of undertaking certain essential coastal protection works all around the coast. I will detail the aid being provided and the circumstances in which this aid is provided for erosion works in the course of my speech. There is however, a pilot relief scheme for certain resort areas, as detailed in Chapter III, sections 46-53 of this year's Finance Act. This scheme, which will apply for three years from 1 July 1995, on a pilot basis, recognises that certain resort areas require renewal and the development of modern facilities. The objective of the scheme is the renewal and updating of the tourist amenities and facilities in the designated resorts. The Finance Act provides that all Bord Fáilte registered and approved visitor accommodation, together with any tourism building or structure, may benefit under the scheme. The issue of erosion is not a factor that has been considered in terms of the designation of resorts. This is a pilot scheme drawn up in the interest of encouraging development in resort areas. Its extension or otherwise to other areas will depend on its success over the next three years.

I am sure the House will join with me in congratulating my colleague in Government for having the foresight to introduce this scheme — something which Deputy Éamon Ó Cuív seems to forget was introduced only this year. While many areas have been omitted certain areas have been selected on a pilot basis. I hope the scheme will turn out to be very successful and new areas will be incorporated in it in future.

I would now like to address the specific issue of erosion and Government actions in respect of it. Ireland is surrounded by one of the most scenic coastlines in Europe. The coastline is recognised as a resource of immense value in economic, environmental, ecological and sociological terms. However, in recent years it has become generally accepted that coastal erosion is a major threat to the coastal environment. The coastal resource is fragile and non-renewable and the systems operating in the coastal zone will significantly depend on the preservation of the coast.

Ireland has a coastline stretching some 6,500 kilometres, of which approximately 5,800 kilometres falls within the jurisdiction of the Republic of Ireland. A "needs study" carried out in 1992 by the national coastal erosion committee of the County and City Engineers' Association showed that out of that total coastline of 5,800 kilometres, over 1,500 kilometres are at risk and some 490 kilometres require immediate attention, at an approximate cost of £125 million.

Many of the areas under threat from coastal erosion, such as Bray Promenade, County Wicklow and Rosslare Strand, County Wexford are major tourism amenities. My colleague, the Minister of State Deputy Gilmore will deal with the projects in more detail during the course of his contribution to the debate. The erosion and possible loss of such amenities will pose serious economic difficulties for local communities, who to a large extent depend on these tourism amenities for their economic survival. This is in additionn to the economic loss of State owned property, incurred due to erosion.

Coastal erosion also impacts on the local ecological environment. Loss for example of sand dunes or other shore areas can disrupt flora and fauna and the natural habitats of a number of birds and animals. Erosion in certain instances poses a social threat to isolated coastal communities. Apart from the economic disruption, erosion is threatening the communication and transport links for these communities. Being cut off from the mainland will have serious and potentially catastrophic consequences for these communities.

The Government is conscious of the threat posed by erosion and the need for coast protection. To this end EU Structural Funds are being made available for the first time to help address the serious erosion problem. Under the operationl programme for environmental services, some £5.1 million is being made available for coastal protection works during the period 1994 through 1999. The primary objective of the funding available is the preservation of: the State owned foreshore; local authority owned property; tourism amenities, including beach and dune systems; and natural habitats-ecology.

Preservation is the objective where this can be undertaken at economic cost. Such preservation works support rural development, tourism, environmental protection and other activities which contribute to increasing the economic potential of coastal regions. A subsidiary, and important, objective is to address the fragmented nature of "coastline responsibility". Given the numerous public bodies responsible for or using the coastal zone, there is a need for coherence in the approach to coastal zone management. To this end the development of a system of integrated coastal zone managment will be examined. The Minister of State Deputy Gilmore will detail the Government's actions in this regard.

Some £5.1 million is being made available to the end of 1999 for protection works. In order to draw up a targeted programme of priority coastal locations, consultations were held with and submissions have been sought from the various coastal local authorities. The local authorities have been requested to submit full details of their top four priority proposals for consideration. They have also been advised that given the level of demand upon available resources, value for money from investments in coastal protection schemes must be achieved. Thus the cost of undertaking any scheme must be considered against the benefits, tangible or intangible, arising. Such benefits would include property, infrastructure, transportation, livelihoods, community concern, conservation value and commercial value.

The bulk of priority proposals have now been received by my Department. These proposals will be assessed by the Department of the Marine having regard to rates of erosion, benefits arising, nature of works required, outline design requirements and cost. Given the detailed nature of the assessment required, the need for further discussion with a number of the local authorities and the need to visit the locations in question, the assessment will take a couple of months to complete. At that stage a targeted programme of works to be undertaken over the next number of years will be drawn up.

I will outline the proposals submitted by Wexford and Meath County Councils as they are of particular interest to Deputies Browne and Dempsey respectively.

Wexford County Council has proposed the following order of priority for coast protection works: Courtown-Ardamine; Cullenstown' Cahore and Duncannon.

At Courtown-Ardamine the council proposes three actions. First, emergency repairs comprising extension of rock revetment along a 60 metre section of Courtown north beach where public walks and picnic-parking areas are at risk due to the locally increased erosion rate. Public access from the "cricket pitch" picnic area to the beach has caused damage over the last two winters and access has now been blocked. Second, study and modelling of wave and sediment movement in Courtown-Ardamine area and design of a phased soft engineering response to the ongoing erosion, while maintaining or improving the harbour entrance channel, which is subject to infil due to the longshore drift and, third, phased construction of soft engineering response recommended in the study and modelling. The county council estimate of the cost of these works is in excess of £450,000.

At Cullenstown the mouth of the Cull lagoon has been moving progressively westwards, pushed in this direction by the steadily growing Ballytigue Burrow, itself a designated area of scientific interest. If the erosion continues there is a risk to the public road access to commercial and residential properties and a risk of loss of livelihood, housing, tourist accommodation and amenities. The council proposes strengthening and extending the existing groyne, cutting through the burrow and placing sand in the old channel at an estimated cost of £108,000.

At Cahore, where the coastline retreated some 20 metres during the 1978-1989 period, the council proposes strengthening and extending the existing rock revetment to afford long term protection to the bay at an estimated cost of £90,000

Duncannon is a popular holiday resort and fishing village in the Barrow estuary area. The bulk of the strand at Duncannon, which is a blue flag beach, is stable. However, a section of the dunes at the northern end of the strand is under attack from high waves and is receding. The council proposes the construction of a 150 metre rock revetment to protect the lower face of the dunes from scour. It estimates the cost at approximately £75,000.

Meath County Council has proposed works at three priority locations: Laytown; Bettystown and the area of beach fronting Laytown-Bettystown golf course.

At Laytown, the council proposes to extend the existing gabion protection as far as Netterville Terrace to link up with the gabion protection work carried out there in 1991. The completion of this work will also assist the development of car parking facilities and the amenity park. The council's estimate of the cost is £210,000.

The stretch of beach south from the beach access at Bettystown has suffered erosion because of the long term result of scouring action of the vertical retaining wall. The council proposes building up beach material against the vertical wall using soft engineering techniques over a distance of 600 metres. In addition, it proposes continuing the gabion protection, commenced in 1990, as far as the golf course at an estimated cost of £150,000.

The third location requiring protection is the area of beach fronting the Laytown-Bettystown golf course with which I am familiar and as far as the training bar at the entry to the estuary. A new beach and dune system has developed at Mornington because of the construction of the training bar which trapped the longshore drift. Intensive use of the dunes and beach between there and Bettystown has given little opportunity for dune regeneration from year to year. The council proposes initially to construct a gabion and groyne system for one kilometre to initiate the development of a new dune system. Marram and sea-lyme grass planting and access-traffic management to the beach is also required. The cost of these works is estimated by the council to be £100,000.

The proposed projects I outlined represent the top priority projects of only two coastal local authorities. Proposals have also been received from most other coastal local authorities. As I already stated, the funding available for these works is £5.1 million over the period to the end of 1999. The cost estimate of the proposals submitted to date amounts to almost £25 million. Therefore, aid can be given to only a limited number of priority projects having regard to the economic, environmental and ecological benefits arising. The Government is aware of the need for increased funding for coastal protection and will make every effort to provide additional funding for this area. That said the £5.1 million, apart from being the first time that structural funding was made available for protection works, represents a significant increase in funding in recent years, where, for example, only £100,000 per annum was made available for capital works on coastal protection schemes during 1992 and 1993. There is no need to remind Deputy Browne that his party was in Government during that period.

This year, £670,000 has been allocated for coastal protection works. The available funds will be utilised to continue the works at Rosslare Strand, County Wexford, and to commence a new scheme at Bray, County Wicklow. I am pleased that my Department has designed a scheme to provide an optimum level of protection at Bray which will be undertaken on a phased basis over a three year period. The scheme will cost £2.3 million and phase 1 will commence in late summer or early autumn this year. The engineers in my Department are confident that this new scheme will provide a long term solution to the erosion problem at Bray. I mention Bray as it was mentioned in the Opposition motion before the House.

Other schemes are under consideration in the context of available funds and the priority projects identified by local authorities.

I remind Deputies that they cannot speak simultaneously about increasing public expenditure and about controlling it. It is time for them to make up their minds whether they want a Government which will increase public expenditure beyond what it is capable of meeting, thus incurring the risk of higher interest rates and inflation. The Government does not intend to go back to the bad old days of high spending. It will manage its resources as best it can in line with the policy I outlined.

As the Minister said, £670,000 has been allocated for coastal protection works during 1995. It is more than the amount spent by the previous Government in the last three years. Among the projects to be undertaken are a new scheme at Bray and the continuation of works at Rosslare Strand.

The beach at Bray has been eroded to a depth of up to 12 feet over much of its length thus exposing the sea wall and promenade to the direct force of storm waves. The loss of the beach has also resulted in overtopping of the sea wall with consequent flooding of the whole seafront area. Erosion at Bray is a long standing problem. In 1881, Bray town commissioners were given powers to build a wall to "protect the Esplanade from the encroachments of the sea which are constantly taking place". The sea wall and promenade was built in the years 1884-1886. Two years after the wall was completed the promenade behind the wall was damaged due to a south-easterly gale.

The present harbour was constructed between 1890 and 1895. Since then there has been progressive erosion of the beach from the harbour southwards. As the beach dropped and receded southward there were numerous occasions of damage. The most spectacular break occurred in 1941 when more than 500 metres of the sea wall was undermined. A major scheme was undertaken by the Office of Public Works to rebuild the wall and underpin its foundations. Subsequently more major works were undertaken in 1954 when steel sheet piling was installed to underpin a further section of the foundation. After that, works of varying sizes were undertaken in 1970, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982 and 1986. Despite the efforts made over the last century the problem remains.

The basic problem is that the sea wall type of protection technique is not the correct type of protection for the seafront at Bray. The vertical faced wall carries the seeds of its own destruction. The breaking waves undermine the face of the wall. The more the beach level is lowered, the higher the waves breaking at the wall and the greater the scouring force exerted by the waves.

In 1990, the Department of the Marine, in an effort to identify a permanent solution to the erosion problem at Bray, engaged the services of Hydraulics Research Limited to undertake a model study of the Bray dynamics. The near-shore littoral regime at Bray is both complex and varied and for that reason it was necessary to evaluate the situation and predict the potential changes resulting from the various protection options.

Arising from the study undertaken, the Department of the Marine's Engineering Division has designed a scheme to provide an optimum level of protection at Bray. This scheme, which is to be undertaken on a phased basis over a three year period, will involve the construction of a rock armoured breakwater extending for some 70 metres in length at right angles to the southern arm of Bray Harbour; the provision of a rock groyne extending at right angles from the promenade to control the littoral transport along the sea-front and the provision of shingle beach nourishment, to be obtained from offshore banks, to the beach fronting the promenade. This involves building up the beach to the level of the esplanade out a distance of 20 metres and then gently slopping down to below low tide for a further distance of about 40 metres.

The scheme, which will cost some £2.3 million, will commence in late summer-early autumn this year. Last night officials from the Department of the Marine met the members and officials of Bray Urban District Council to explain the details of the scheme, and I am pleased to say that overwhelming support was expressed for it.

On that note, I would like to give credit to the engineering staff of the Department of the Marine who have been unstinting in their efforts to assist local authorities in the design and completion of coast protection works. The Department's engineers are confident that the new scheme will provide a long term solution to the erosion problem at Bray.

The Department's engineers are also about to complete a scheme designed to provide a permanent solution to the erosion of Rosslare Strand, County Wexford. This scheme forms one element of a European Union part-funded project entitled ECOPRO. In June 1992, the ECOPRO project was selected for funding under the European Union's NORSPA framework. The project aims to develop a method for the assessment of coastal erosion, to devise a system for monitoring erosion and to optimise the selection of an appropriate response. As the project title suggests, the emphasis will be on using environmentally friendly coastal protection techniques, sometimes known as "soft engineering", wherever possible so as to mitigate the impact of coastal protection on the environment. These techniques attempt to emulate the natural processes rather than directly oppose them. The final product of ECOPRO will be a code of practice. This will be of considerable use as a guide to current best practice. It is hoped that this code will help those involved in coastal protection works avoid the instant palliative response to storm damage and also ensure that they look first at the "soft engineering" techniques. The code will also consider the question of grading the sensitivity of the coast to erosion. This should prove particularly useful and will require practitioners to look at the erosion problem in a much wider context than they might otherwise. It is intended that this code of practice will be completed in the next 12 months or so and I am confident it will be of great benefit to coastal local authorities and landowners in understanding the dynamic nature of erosion and environmentally friendly protection techniques.

In the ongoing struggle with the sea, there is a growing consensus among coastal protection practitioners that the line cannot and should not everywhere be held against the sea. Three very important arguments, which everyone living in coastal areas should remember, underlie this view. The first is geomorphological: erosion provides the sediment that builds up the natural coastal defences of other areas of coastline by forming marshes or beaches, shingle bars or mud flats. The second is economic: sea walls for example cost anywhere between £1 million and £5 million per kilometre, depending on location and circumstances, and have a design life of 50 years maximum. Away from urban areas, the benefits of preserving thin strips of land simply do not justify the cost. The third is environmental: the natural mud flats and salt marshes of the coast are havens for thousands of birds and other wildlife. These could be lost in any squeeze between protection works and sea level rises. In many instances, therefore, the appropriate action is not protection but managed retreat.

Earlier the Minister referred to the provision of £5.1 million under the Operational Programme for Environmental Services and the fact that a subsidiary but nonetheless important objective was the need to address the fragmented nature of coastline responsibility and to this end develop an integrated coastal zone management strategy. It is important to recognise that coastal erosion is only one of many concerns arising in relation to the coast.

In view of this, an interdepartmental working group involving the Departments of the Marine and the Environment and the Office of Public Works has been established. This group is investigating the establishment of an overall framework for coastal planning and management covering land use planning and control, coastal protection, nature conservation, marine resource development, marine environmental parotection and the links between these.

Coastal areas provide important shared resource benefits — recreational, aesthetic and economic — as well as accommodating many sensitive ecosystems. Such benefits could be endangered by future development if the coastal zone is not properly arranged. It is intended therefore, to develop a comprehensive management policy for the entire coastal zone, both on the seaward and landward sides and to provide a framework for conservation and sustainable use. Such a management policy will come from a dynamic process and will be based on the premise that the coastal zone, as a unit for both use and planning purposes, is an area which requires special attention.

The intent of this comprehensive management process for the coastal zone is the promotion of sustainable use, the balancing of demand for coastal resources and the promotion of both environmentally sensitive use of, and strategic planning for, the coastal zone. The implementation of this policy will require an integrated approach.

In order to progress the development of an overall policy for coastal zone management, the interdepartmental working group is about to commission a major consultancy study. The group publicly sought preliminary submissions from interested parties and some 31 submissions were received. These were examined in considerable detail by the group and five parties were invited to make a more detailed submission. These have now been examined and it is hoped to award the contract very shortly.

The consultancy, when awarded, will be required to make recommendations for a coastal zone management policy, taking account of the specific potential and problems of the coastal zone including issues arising from overlapping administrative structures and boundaries. In particular, it should recommend an overall policy for coastal zone management at national and local level. The strategy study should consider and suggest the criteria to be used to delimit the coastal zone landwards and seawards in a flexible rather than spatially precise manner for the purposes of applying coastal zone management policy to the coastal zone or zones. It should also provide a coherent framework for sustainable forms of development, having regard to existing responsibilities and structures, and should enable clear objectives to be set which would provide for a coherent overall policy for managing the coastal zone based on the principles of conservation and sustainable use.

I am sure the House will recognise that the development of a coastal zone management policy will be of immense importance in the ongoing struggle to sustain the coastal resource and ensure it remains available for future generations. We must aim to achieve a balance between economic, social and environmental good. The consultancy, when undertaken, will take about six months to complete. I look forward to receiving the report.

(Wexford): I support the motion so ably put by my colleague, Deputy Michael Smith. Coastal erosion is recognised in Ireland as a major problem for landowners, seaside resorts and the environment generally. There are major economic implications in this scenario both in terms of property and commercial activities in the areas affected. We need a proper national strategy and a broadly based approach to the problems of coastal erosion. Ireland has over 1,500 kilometres of coastline at risk from coastal erosion, at least one third of which requires immediate action if we are to protect the livelihoods of farmers, business people, tourism operators, fishermen and the public.

Every year thousands of acres of valuable lands are washed into the sea while this Government stands idly by, paralysed by a lack of a proper coastal protection policy and a lack of funds. The policy of local authorities appears to be to forget about saving or protecting acres of valuable farmlands. The point made by Deputy Éamon Ó Cuív is relevant. The policy of county engineers and county councils seems to be that it is cheaper to let this land slip into the sea than to protect it. This begs the question as to whether we should have a policy of compensation for farmers, particularly small farmers. It is very difficult for a small farmer who loses three or four acres of land over a five or ten year period to survive. The issue of compensation should be examined.

The communities living along our coastline have been deserted by the Government and left to the ravages of the sea. I call on the Minister for the Marine urgently to seek funds from the EU to tackle the major problem of coastal erosion. I stress the need to develop a co-ordinated national coastal policy, including the production of guidelines for local authorities to draw up coastal management plans. I welcome the statement by the Minister of State at the Department of the Marine, Deputy Gilmore, that the interdepartmental group has been working on this matter. When I was Minister of State at the Department of the Environment I was involved with the Department of the Marine and the Office of Public Works in setting up this interdepartmental working group. Obviously they are making strong recommendations and are dealing with the entire coastline, not simply with coastal erosion. I urge the Minister to ensure that the body which will take over responsibility will make a report as soon as possible. It is important that there are no undue delays in making the required recommendations.

Our coastline is under threat from both natural and man's activities. Natural causes such as severe storms have caused extensive damage to the coastline in recent years. The east coast has been severely affected by storms and many communities there live in dread of the winters and the bad storms which affects their property and lands. Man's activity such as the removal of beach materials is a serious problem for some authorities and a potentially more serious problem could arise in the future if there are moves to exploit offshore sand banks as sources of construction materials. Both activities must be strictly controlled by our local authorities as failure to do so could be catastrophic for sections of the coastline.

What plan of action has the Government to deal with the serious problem of coastal erosion? I have listened to the two Ministers this evening and it seems there is no plan. Every request to the Minister's Department for financial support is met with a negative response, despite the offer from local authorities and local communities to raise some finance towards the cost involved. I admit there is money for the major schemes such as Rosslare and that is welcome, but for smaller areas which are very valuable to local communities for fishing, tourism and farming purposes, no funds are forthcoming from the department despite the fact that many local communities are prepared to raise significant amounts of money.

We have heard case after case where local communities would be prepared to raise funds in the region of £15,000 to £30,000, where the county council would be prepared to give some financial aid, yet when they arrive at the Department of the Marine they are refused assistance. In an area where local communities are prepared to raise substantial amounts of money, the Department of the Marine should be prepared to look at cases on an individual basis and match them pound for pound. Even in some of the cases outlined by the Minister £100,000 or £75.000 could solve their problem. If the Department of the Marine was sympathetic to providing some funds there could be a three way split where local communities, the local authority and the Department of the Marine could set about funding a project and have the problem resolved at a reasonable cost whereas if the problem becomes worse four or five years down the road the Department would possibly have to carry the full cost. I urge the Minister seriously to consider making some funds available where communities are prepared to raise money.

I suggest to the Minister and his Department that erosion control cannot be treated in isolation. We must have either regional or local coastal zone management plans for the entire coastline to enable the preservation of a priceless but diminishing and non-renewable resources. EU policy would seem to favour this approach. While funds generally are not available for coastal protection, there is a movement towards the development of a coherent strategy for coastal Europe. The time is ripe for the Minister and the Government to go back to the EU and seek substantial funds to combat coastal erosion. A former Minister of the Marine, Deputy David Andrews managed to convince the EU, for the first time, to make funds available throught Structural Funds. It is important that the Government should secure further funds because the £5.7 million or £5.9 million, which the Minister said will be available up to 1999, will go nowhere towards meeting the cost of implementing a coastal erosion policy in Ireland. All we can do is deal with the bigger problems of coastal erosion while the smaller areas which are important to local communities are left to one side.

I welcome the fact that money is being provided for Rosslare and Bray over the next two or three years. I am pleased that substantial sums of money are going to Wicklow. It is a pity we do not have a by-election from time to time in different constituencies to avail of the windfalls that come during a by-election. I welcome the money for Bray which has had severe problems over many years. It is only right that the problem there should be tackled. The major schemes such as Rosslare, Bray and so on are being looked after while the smaller schemes are abandoned to the weather and communities are left to the mercy of local authorities who have no money.

What role does the Minister see for his Department in dealing with coastal erosion in the future? Has his Department studied the way in which other countries deal with the problem? In the UK, Denmark, the Netherlands and the USA there is a leaning towards coastal management rather than treating erosion in isolation. Many suggestions have come from the Department of the Marine in recent times on how coastal erosion should be dealt with. Governments have neglected the problem. The Department of the Environment dealt with it on occasion. The Department of Finance, through the Office of Public Works, was the last Department to deal with it before responsibility was transferred to the Department of the Marine. As no Department has the moneys required transferring responsibility from one Department to another has not solved this serious problem which I hope the Minister and Minister of State will face up to and deal with.

Funds are required from the European Union for major capital projects and associated data collection. While capital projects are important to deal with emergency cases the accumulation of basic data is vital, especially at a time of climatic change. This includes information on water levels, tidal patterns, wind and wave data as well studies of sediment supply around the coast and of the natural process.

Because of the lack of interest shown by the Government in dealing with coastal erosion the Minister of State should consider setting up a national coastal authority with responsibility for the development of the entire coastline. The National Coastal Erosion Committee in its report Coastal Management — a case for action makes a strong case for the establishment of such an authority and suggests a number of possible solutions to the problem. I am sure that its recommendations have been considered by the Department of the Marine. Does the Minister of State have any ideas on how some of these might be implemented? National coastal authorities are operating successfully in a number of other countries. Such an authority would have the power to raise funds from local authorities, the general public and the European Union. We should serously consider such possibility.

Our seaside resorts and amenities — beaches, etc. — can be enjoyed by everyone. The report to which I have referred states that no person is living more than 80 kilometres from a seaside resort. It should not be left to the coastal counties to resolve the problem. The cost must be met by the community generally. We must get the message across that any money spent on measures to tackle the problem of coastal erosion is money well spent in that it is for the protection of a vital and valuable national asset.

The coastal erosion problem has an impact on the economy to the extent that as it affects the development of the tourism industry, fishing, farming and other developments along the coastline. The Minister and the Government should realise that communities are enduring hardship in the fight against coastal erosion. We have not faced up to this problem and have let the people living in coastal counties down. I call on the Minister to give a lead. The European Union is not eager to make funds available because of the large sums required but we must take the fight to it and encourage it to make as much funding available as possible.

While I appreciate that the problem is serious in counties such as Waterford it is more severe in County Wexford. Areas such as Rosslare Strand, Courtown, Cahore, Ballyconnigar, Ardamine, Pollshone, Curracloe, Ballyteigue, Cullenstown, Morriscastle, Tinaberna, Clone, Ballyvaldon and Ballyvaloo have been severely affected for many years. These are valuable tourist resorts where amenities such as caravan parks are provided and it is of importance to the economy of County Wexford and its tourism sector in particular that moneys be made available to combat this serious problem.

Wexford County Council has been to the forefront in devising strategies to deal with the problem of coastal erosion but is being hampered because of the lack of funds. In a report prepared in September 1991 the county engineer stated that it would cost £15.2 million to rectify the problem in nine of the 15 areas I have mentioned. No county council would ever be in a position to cope with such a financial burden. It therefore needs financial support. It is important for us to impress upon the Government the need to secure extra funding from the European Union.

The Minister mentioned Rosslare Strand. I acknowledge that the Government has made funds available to deal with the problem of coastal erosion at this location. Rosslare is one of our major holiday resorts and the gateway to Europe. Over one million people pass through the harbour each year. It has a valuable hotel industry which provides employment throughout the year and an important golf course which attracts many visitors to the area as well as many other public amenities. It is only right therefore that the Government should continue to provide funds to solve the problem of coastal erosion at Rosslare Strand. It seems, however, that most of the money has been allocated to certain areas——

The Deputy did not congratulate Rosslare Golf Club for carrying out major works to solve the problem.

(Wexford): While I do not play golf Deputy Byrne is an important member of the club which has carried out some major works for which it put up a large amount of the funds required but in fairness the Government and its predecessor have provided funds to deal with the problem at Rosslare Strand.

The Minister for Tourism and Trade won first prize there two years ago.

(Wexford): Regardless of which party he represents the Minister for Tourism and Trade will always be welcome in Rosslare. Any funds provided would also be welcome.

I suggest to the Minister of State, Deputy Gilmore, that it is important that he continue to try to secure extra funding from the European Union to combat the problem of coastal erosion. The Government cannot provide the amount required to solve the problem; a substantial allocation is required from the European Union. The former Minister, Deputy Andrews, secured extra funding from this source. The Minister, Deputy Barrett, and the Minister of State should continue to fight in Europe to secure extra funding for the period 1995-98 and not accept the figure of £5.7 million or £5.9 million. A sum of £15 million is required in County Wexford alone during the next five years to deal with the problem.

It is not good enough to say that the previous Government negotiated the deal under which we will receive over £5 million. It is up to this Government to seek an increase in the amount we received. If it does, it will be a job well done. From the speeches of both Ministers, apart from dealing with the problem in Bray, which is very important, there is very little money in the kitty for the rest of the country, and that is regrettable.

Debate adjourned.
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