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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 21 Jun 1995

Vol. 454 No. 7

Written Answers. - ESB Manning Levels.

Mary Harney

Ceist:

13 Miss Harney asked the Minister for Transport, Energy and Communications the estimated overmanning levels in the ESB in 1994; and, on the basis of the average cost per employee in 1994, the excess loss in pounds per annum that this represents. [11375/95]

Michael Woods

Ceist:

14 Dr. Woods asked the Minister for Transport, Energy and Communications the present situation in regard to the ESB; the total number of redundancies envisaged; and the timeframe. [9038/95]

Noel Treacy

Ceist:

25 Mr. N. Treacy asked the Minister for Transport, Energy and Communications the agreements which he has reached with the ESB on the closure and/or the downgrading of their services throughout the country; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [11369/95]

Ivor Callely

Ceist:

88 Mr. Callely asked the Minister for Transport, Energy and Communications the feedback or submissions, if any, he has received from ESB employees since his recent announcement of proposals regarding the future of the company; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [11540/95]

I propose to take Questions Nos. 13, 14, 25 and 88 together.

As part of the tripartite cost and competitiveness review in the ESB, McKinseys undertook benchmarking studies to examine how the board could deliver its services in the most cost-effective way. The consultants estimated the overmanning in ESB at 2,900 by reference to best practice elsewhere. The consultants concluded that this represents scope for gross savings of £120 million to include an approximate £80 million reduction in payroll costs and an additional £40 million to be saved in non-payroll costs. However, when offset by necessary increases in networks investment, the total net savings would be £100 million. The Government has required the ESB to take all necessary measures to achieve as much as possible of the savings identified by McKinseys within a two-year period.

My Department is, of course, represented on the Cost and Competitiveness Review Steering Group which monitors progress on negotiations between the ESB management and unions. However, my Department has no direct role in the negotiations themselves and, therefore, has no input into decisions about ESB's operations and services throughout the country — such decisions properly being the responsibility of the ESB management. My Department's responsibility is to represent the shareholder and promote the cause of the consumer.

Deputies will be aware that I have had a number of meetings with ESB management and unions recently with a view to bringing the CCR to an early successful conclusion. My most recent meeting with ESB management and unions was on 15 June. As a result of that meeting all sides reaffirmed their full commitment to a successful conclusion of the CCR. It was agreed that negotiations under the CCR would continue and that I would meet both sides again on 27 June next. I am fully committed to an early and successful conclusion to these negotiations.
My announcement on 6 June last of major Government decisions concerning the electricity sector will help to build on the drive for efficiency within the ESB. The decisions encompass a range of issues affecting the electricity sector and take account of expected European Union legislation on the Single Market for electricity. I am hopeful that the statement of the Government's policy will give added impetus to the early conclusion of CCR negotiations. At my meetings with the ESB unions on 15 June last I took the opportunity to clarify points they had raised on the Government decision.
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