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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 22 Nov 1995

Vol. 458 No. 6

Adjournment Debate. - Restrictions on Smoking.

Last night the Minister of State at the Department of Health, Deputy O'Shea, announced that the existing controls on smoking in certain places would be strengthened and extended. The new controls will apply from 1 January next year and the restrictions on smoking in restaurants will be extended further from 1 May of that year. He said there was now an unanswerable case to extend the ban on smoking in pubs. Under the new regulations, from 1 May next year all restaurants which meet ventilation standards must designate 25 per cent of their seating for non-smokers while all other restaurants will have to set aside 50 per cent of the seating for them. At present restaurants are obliged to have a non-smoking area but the number of seats has been left to the discretion of proprietors. Many owners of restaurants and pubs have carried out alterations to their premises in an effort to accommodate their customers and deal with the anti-smoking feeling which is now prevalent. These new proposals will create many problems for the owners of restaurants.

The Minister's proposals are a continuation of a process which began in 1988 when he introduced the Tobacco (Health Promotion and Protection) Act which prohibited the consumption of tobacco products in certain areas. These proposals will be well received by the medical profession but if the Minister is really serious about protecting the health of the public he should impose a ban on tobacco advertising. The public has become very health conscious in recent years and smoking is no longer allowed in many homes. The case against using tobacco is easy to make and while the relevant facts in Ireland are not fully known the British ones make startling reading. According to the British Government, every year 111,000 people die from smoking, 26,000 of these die from lung cancer while the remainder die from other diseases caused by tobacco. For every 1,000 smokers in Britain, one will be murdered, six will die in road accidents and 250 will die prematurely. The loss of 111,000 customers each year is a problem for the tobacco industry which seeks to replace them by advertising. Almost all adults who smoke began smoking before the age of 20. For that reason tobacco advertising is directed at teenagers and children, the only age groups in which the number of smokers is not falling.

The cost of smoking to the country is enormous. While this has never been properly quantified, all one has to do is visit a hospital to see the number of patients being treated for tobacco related illnesses. The cost to industry is also enormous. The Government has used price regulations, health warnings, a prohibition on smoking in certain areas and restrictions in other areas to deal with the problem. While these measures are generally welcomed by the public they do not achieve the necessary results. This has given rise to a game where, on the one side, the Government introduces anti-smoking measures while, on the other, the powerful and wealthy tobacco industry engages in sexy advertising campaigns. Advertising is big business for the tobacco industry. Last year the industry in Britain spent more than £100 million in advertising. It claimed that it was simply promoting brand switching but, as we know, people cannot be persuaded to change brands if they have not already been persuaded to start smoking.

A ban on tobacco advertising is not a new concept; it has already been implemented in a number of countries where the results speak for themselves. For example in New Zealand it resulted in a 7.5 per cent reduction in tobacco consumption, a reduction of 6 per cent in Canada, a reduction of 7 per cent in Finland and a reduction of 8 per cent in Norway. I do not want to ban smoking as I know some people love to smoke, they live for it.

I would be grateful if the Deputy brought his remarks to a conclusion.

People have the right to chose and far be it from me to interfere with that right. However, it is important to ask whether tobacco advertising is in the public interest. Tobacco is a unique product, it is the only product which can kill people when used in moderation.

The time has come to call the Minister of State.

I have little doubt that if cigarettes were introduced today they would be banned immediately. I accept that my proposal is radical but smoking is by far the largest health hazard today.

The Deputy has had some latitude from the Chair.

The Minister should introduce a ban on tobacco advertising.

I am grateful to the Deputy for raising this very important matter and welcome the opportunity to outline the policy in this area. I am very much in favour of a total ban on tobacco advertising. This position has also been adopted by successive Ministers for Health in the discussions by the European Council for Health Ministers over many years.

The European Commission wants to introduce a Union-wide ban on tobacco advertising. Its draft proposal was first brought forward in 1989 and modified in 1992 following consideration by the European Parliament which suggested a number of amendments but expressed its support for a total ban on smoking. Since then the proposed directive has been examined at eight of the twice yearly meetings of the Council of Ministers of Health and it will be examined again at next week's Council meeting. A majority of member states support the Commission proposal, but unfortunately, it is opposed by a sufficient number to form a blocking minority.

In 1994 the German Presidency of the Council tried to break the deadlock by submitting a compromise proposal which did not go as far as the Commission proposal. However, it did not command sufficient support. Similarly, the Spanish Presidency has put forward a compromise proposal for next week's Council meeting which would ban tobacco advertising in all media which cross national boundaries within the Union, for example, publications which are distributed in more than one member state or broadcasts which can be received in more than one member state.

Ireland's position has consistently been to support the Commission's proposal. We will, of course, be happy if some form of compromise proposal can attract sufficient support to break the deadlock and we will certainly encourage the Commission and other member states to explore all the possibilities in this regard. Given that we will hold the Presidency of the EU during the second half of 1996 we will have a good opportunity to influence the search for a solution if one has not been found by then.

I have outlined in some detail the position at European level as it is essential for Deputies to understand that there are limits to what we can do at national level in the absence of similar measures elsewhere, particularly in the UK. We already impose substantial restrictions on tobacco advertising — I will refer to these in detail later — and we will further increase these next year. However, a total ban on tobacco advertising would cause major difficulties given the colossal over-spill in Ireland of newspapers, magazines and broadcasts from other countries. In practical terms we would only be able to implement a ban in respect of media originating in this country. This would discriminate strongly against Irish newspapers and other publications which are already enduring very tough competition from British titles. For that reason, the ultimate solution must be a total ban in the context of similar action throughout the European Union as a whole. We will continue to pursue that goal as long as there is any prospect of achieving it. I believe that such a prospect still exists.

I would not like to give the impression, however, that we are powerless in relation to tobacco advertising. While, as I have explained, a complete ban is not advisable if it is on a unilateral basis, I must stress that the existing controls are quite restrictive. We restrict the content of advertisements and the types of magazines and newspapers in which they can be published and we do not allow them on radio or television. We limit the total advertising and sponsorship expenditure of the tobacco industry. They have not been allowed increase their annual spending in real terms since 1985, and I announced earlier this year that I am imposing a 5 per cent cut in the limits for the year 1996.

The whole area of discouraging smoking is one of the biggest priorities of both myself and my Department. It is central to the achievement of the targets in the health strategy. It is a battle which is being waged on many fronts. Two weeks ago I launched a new, hard-hitting anti-smoking advertising campaign. Yesterday I launched the health boards' campaign, in association with RGDATA, to tackle the problem of under-age purchases of cigarettes. I also announced details of the major extensions of the restrictions on smoking in public places, including in particular the new arrangements for restaurants, and I signalled my intention to have discussions with the Licensed Vintners' Association on the position in pubs.

It will be clear to the House that, as far as tackling smoking is concerned, there is no shortage of either effort or imagination on our part. When it comes to a ban on advertising, however, I hope I have helped to clarify the importance of community-wide action rather than an isolated measure on our part.

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