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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 13 Oct 1998

Vol. 495 No. 1

Priority Questions. - Housing Policy.

Brendan Howlin

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37 Mr Howlin asked the Minister for the Environment and Local Government if he will declare a housing crisis; the plans, if any, he has to establish a housing convention of all interested parties to establish an inclusive national crisis plan of action; if he will allow local authorities to establish land banks with special capital provision and substantially increase the capital programme for water and sewerage to bring these lands into housing use; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [19265/98]

I have over the years heard many calls for the declaration of a housing emergency or a housing crisis and any such declaration would achieve little, if anything. What is required is well thought out effective action by Government in response to the prevailing housing problems.

I have met a number of voluntary housing organisations who are seeking the establishment of a national commission on housing and I have agreed to meet them again. I am open to any useful ideas which will help to meet housing needs. The newly appointed NESC will, at an early meeting, consider a proposal for a study on housing. I understand preparatory work for such a study is under way in the NESC secretariat.

The Government's housing priorities are set out in An Action Programme for the Millennium and include a commitment to the deeply held aspiration for home ownership, a continuation of the local authority and voluntary housing programmes and more effective implementation of the social housing measures.

My priorities since taking office have been to ensure urgent action in the problem areas including badly needed improvements in the range of social housing measures and the house prices issue which was tackled comprehensively with the Government's Action on House Prices. This involved a three pronged approach designed to increase the supply of housing, reduce excessive investment demand and assist lower income house purchasers.

I am also seeking increased resources for social housing in the context of the 1999 Estimates. It is open to local authorities to acquire land for housing purposes and the acquisition and development costs of land for local authority, voluntary and private housing under the low cost sites scheme is met from existing capital allocations for these purposes. I will consider ways in which local authorities might be further assisted in this.

I am amazed at the complacency of the Minister in what the world recognises as a housing crisis. The Minister refuses to recognise that fact. I am equally amazed that he feels the issue of house prices has been tackled comprehensively. The problem continues unabated. Will the Minister accept the recommendation from the Society of St. Vincent de Paul, Threshold and other voluntary groups in the housing area to set up a commission on housing immediately? Will he make that declaration now with a view to ascertaining what the State and the private sector can do to provide affordable housing and a mix of social housing in line with Government policy for successive administrations?

I greet the Deputy's declaration of amazement with a certain amount of scepticism. He is well aware that there was not equilibrium between supply and demand in the housing market when we took up office.

It is immeasurably worse now.

The Member who is declaring amazement was the Minister who had responsibility for this Department only a few months ago.

The Minister cannot wash his hands of this.

Let us deal with the realities.

There are 40,000 people on the waiting list.

The Minister must be allowed to reply.

We have taken action and stated clearly that the measures we have taken will have an effect in the medium term. There is no instant solution to these matters. Specifically in the serviced lands initiative we have taken measures which will have a dramatic impact on the availability of zoned serviced housing sites in the medium term. The Deputy knows that is so. I have met some of the organisations mentioned in the question.

At last.

I am delighted to work with all the voluntary organisations, all the local authorities and all interested bodies to help bring the market back into equilibrium and to provide affordable houses and homes for the homeless. This is my concern which has been expressed on many occasions here in reply to questions and statements and it is a top priority of the Government. To imply that by some simple formula of words we could resolve the matter by giving it some title is childish and simplistic and it does not redound to the Deputy's credit to make such a statement.

On a point of order——

I am happy we will achieve our housing policy objectives.

The Minister is using up the six minutes and is abusing the House.

I am sorry the Deputy is getting upset.

Will the Minister accept that the serviced lands initiative of £15 million allocated to date is hopelessly inadequate? Will he accept that the Government decision in the last budget to halve capital gains tax was a mistake? Will he announce the establishment of a commission on housing to comprehensively address all the related issues, including the problem for the rental sector as well as the house purchasing sector?

I do not accept the Deputy's assertion that the amount we have provided is of no great consequence.

It is hopelessly inadequate.

The figure given by the Deputy is not correct. We have committed ourselves to provide £30 million.

It is totally inadequate.

The Deputy mentioned a sum of £15 million. I do not know why the Deputy would seek to quote an incorrect figure.

How much has been allocated to date?

Some £15 million has been allocated to date. We cannot allocate funds before decisions are made on the different schemes.

We have been allocated £15 million. It is only 40 per cent of the actual cost. The balance has to be found by the local authorities.

It is more than was provided by the Deputy.

It is 40 per cent more than was allocated by Deputy Howlin. I am disappointed the Deputy would seek to play politics with this important housing issue which is of concern to many families who support the measures taken by the Government and recognise the previous Government ignored what was happening in the housing market and had not taken the necessary measures——

Will the Minister please deal with Question No. 38.

I want to clarify——

The time is up, we cannot deal with it now. We must proceed to Question No. 38.

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