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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 10 Feb 1999

Vol. 500 No. 2

Written Answers. - Untrained Personnel.

Willie Penrose

Ceist:

70 Mr. Penrose asked the Minister for Education and Science the number of teaching days at primary level undertaken by untrained teachers in the last months of 1998; the comparative figures for the same period in 1997; the number of days worked by similar personnel at second level for the same periods; his views on the fact that so many children are being taught by those without the required qualification; the steps, if any, being taken to reduce the use of personnel without teaching qualifications; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [3708/99]

Enda Kenny

Ceist:

77 Mr. Kenny asked the Minister for Education and Science the number of teaching days at primary level undertaken by untrained teachers in 1998; and the way in which this compares with 1997. [3619/99]

I propose to take Questions Nos. 70 and 77 together.

In 1997, the total number of days that untrained personnel worked within primary schools amounted to 109,000. The corresponding figure for 1998 was 139,858. The information requested in relation to second level is not available in my Department. However, I wish to assure the Deputy that my Department's policy is that, as far as practicable, second level teachers should be qualified in the subjects which they are teaching.

Since coming into office, I have been concerned at the large number of untrained personnel working within the primary school system. For these reasons, I have introduced a range of measures which are designated to boost substantially the supply of trained primary teachers. Specifically, I have ensured that the intake of trainee primary teachers to the colleges of education in 1998-9 was increased to over 1,000. This includes 748 students who will pursue the three year B. Ed degree programme, while 280 degree holders have been admitted to an 18 month full-time post-graduate training course. Additionally, B. Ed. graduates of St. Mary's College, Belfast, who have studied Irish to honours level as an academic subject as part of their teaching qualification will be recognised as fully trained.

I am also examining the possibility of the University of Limerick providing a one year conver sion course for degree holders, who hold the Higher Diploma in Education and who have either Irish as part of their degree or have Irish to grade C at the leaving certificate or its equivalent. I have further decided that from 1 September 1998, all primary degree holders who also hold the Higher Diploma in Education shall be recognised as fully trained for the purposes of providing substitution service. Montessori trained teachers who successfully completed the course of three years duration at St. Nicholas, Dun Laoghaire, and which is recognised by the National Council for Education Awards, shall from 1 September 1998 also be granted recognition as fully trained substitutes.
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