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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 23 May 2001

Vol. 536 No. 6

Priority Questions. - Garda Investigations.

Alan Shatter

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53 Mr. Shatter asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if an investigation has commenced into allegations of Garda misconduct in the Donegal area pursuant to section 9 of the Garda Síochána Act, 1924; if he intends to publish the reports of the earlier investigations into allegations of Garda misconduct in the Donegal area; if he has received from the Garda Commissioner the reports completed to date; if so, if they will be lodged in the Library of Dáil Éireann; and his views on whether, in the public interest, a public inquiry should be conducted into these maters and also into the manner in which they have been dealt with to date by the Garda authorities. [15137/01]

The Deputy asks if an investigation has commenced into this matter pursuant to section 9 of the Garda Síochána Act, 1924. The section in question provided for the Commissioner, or any other officer of the Garda Síochána nominated by the Commissioner, or for any person nominated by the Minister, to hold an inquiry and to examine on oath the truth of any charge or complaint of neglect or violation of duty preferred against any member of the Garda Síochána. However, the section was repealed by section 4 of the Police Forces Amalgamation Act, 1925, and so does not provide a statutory basis for an inquiry.

Section 12 of the Dublin Police Act, 1924, as applied by section 18 of the Police Forces Amalgamation Act, 1925, makes it lawful for any person nominated by the Minister to hold an inquiry and to examine on oath the truth of any charge or complaint of neglect or violation of duty preferred against any member of the Garda Síochána.

While the 1924 provision is suited to inquiring into specific allegations against an individual member of the Garda Síochána, I am not sure it would provide an adequate vehicle for a comprehensive inquiry into the complexities of the Donegal case where there is a variety of issues and individuals involved. In any event, the provision is not applicable in relation to conduct alleged in admissible complaints made under the Garda Síochána (Complaints) Act, 1996 – section 15(3) of the 1996 Act refers. As I have mentioned on a number of occasions, complaints have been made to the Complaints Board against members of the Garda Síochána in the context of this case.

As I have also said to the Deputy previously, I want to see the truth of this matter determined. I know that this issue has been in the public domain for quite some time. Concerns about the handling of the investigation into the death of Mr. Richard Barron appear to have been first raised in correspondence with my predecessor in 1997. I want to see public confidence in the Garda, in so far as it has been adversely affected by the matter, restored. The question is how we best achieve this in an open and transparent way that will achieve the desired results without interfering with potential civil and criminal proceedings.

With this in mind, I am seeking the advice of the Attorney General as to whether I can proceed with any type of inquiry while civil and criminal proceedings are pending, and what the implications would be of such a course of action. While I obviously want to establish what happened in Donegal, I am sure all sides of the House will agree that it would not be acceptable to proceed in a way that would prejudice or jeopardise any of the proceedings which have been instituted, or proceedings which might yet be instituted. I will keep the House apprised of developments in this regard.

I have already advised the House that a file in this matter, following Assistant Commissioner Carty's investigation, has been sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions. Following receipt of directions from the DPP, one person, not a member of the Garda Síochána, has been arrested and charged. Further directions are awaited in respect of other aspects of the investigation. A number of civil actions relating to the case are outstanding.

The Garda Commissioner is already taking action to restore confidence. The Deputy will be aware that when the commissioner received the report of the assistant commissioner on the allegations in question, he decided, in the best interests of the public and the Garda Síochána, to transfer a number of personnel.

Additional Information.I have also been recently informed by the Garda authorities that an inquiry under the Garda Síochána (Discipline) Regulations, 1989, has been initiated by the Garda Commissioner with a view to investigating suspected breaches of discipline by a number of members of the Garda Síochána in the Donegal division arising from the investigation conducted by Assistant Commissioner Carty.

The Deputy asks if I intend to publish the reports of the earlier investigations into allegations of Garda misconduct in the Donegal area and, in this regard, if I have received the completed reports from the Garda Commissioner. On the latter point, the Deputy will be aware from recent correspondence that I have not seen the investigation file nor would it be normal practice for the Minister to do so. I have, of course, as I have previously informed the House, received a report of the assistant commissioner's investigation from the Garda Commissioner.

Given the various investigations and proceedings ongoing in relation to this matter, I do not believe it would be appropriate at this time to publish any of the reports I have received in the matter nor to lodge them in the Oireachtas Library.

My primary concern is to take whatever actions are necessary to ensure that the truth of what happened in Donegal is established and becomes known to the public, while also ensuring that this is achieved in such a way that no proceedings are jeopardised so that justice can be done and be seen to be done.

Does the Minister agree that it is unacceptable in a democratic society that serious allegations made against members, including senior members, of a police force go unaddressed by public inquiry and that the details of the veracity or otherwise of those allegations are left to mystery for over five years?

Will he confirm that a third Garda investigation or inquiry is under way into allegations of Garda misconduct in County Donegal? Will he clarify the nature of that inquiry? Does he find it acceptable that allegations remain in the public arena of members of the Garda colluding in the hiding of armaments which they subsequently find? Does he also find it unacceptable that the circumstances surrounding the death of a young man on the roadway in 1996 have not been adequately investigated? Does he further find it unacceptable that 165 charges were brought against members of one family – the McBriarty family – all of which had to be withdrawn after lengthy court hearings?

Does the Minister agree it is unacceptable, as he is aware from correspondence he recently received, that there are new allegations of Garda harassment of a member of the McBriarty family as recently as 5 May 2001 by a member of the Garda in Donegal?

Will the Minister indicate whether a circular distributed to Garda stations in County Donegal by senior members of the force, which alleged that members of the McBriarty family were financing a campaign to discredit the Garda, has been withdrawn? Is the Minister aware of whether that circular is still in Garda stations in Letterkenny?

As I have indicated on a number of occasions, I am anxious that we get to the bottom of what happened in Donegal.

The investigation by Assistant Commissioner Carty was completed and presented to me and, in turn, to the DPP. The DPP is independent in the exercise of his functions and I may not interfere with him. It would be a bad day for democracy if I could do so. I have no alternative other than to allow the DPP to proceed with his determinations.

A complaint was made to me last summer by the two main Opposition spokespersons regarding other matters, which I conveyed at the time to the Garda Commissioner, following which Assistant Commissioner Murphy commenced another investigation. I do not have the result of that investigation.

That is not acceptable.

As Deputy Shatter outlined, a further investigation by a chief superintendent regarding another matter is also under way. I realise the frustration of Members regarding this matter.

A banana republic would not deal with an issue as serious as this in such a manner.

The Minister is on his feet.

We all wish to get to the bottom of what happened in Donegal. In that respect, I recently wrote to the Attorney General, although the advice within the Department is that, without the DPP's determinations, we may not be able to ascertain whether it would be possible for me to initiate some form of inquiry which would get to the bottom of the matter.

We have used up the time allowed for this question.

I am as anxious as any other Member to do so.

On a point of order.

I will allow a brief question.

The Minister has not answered one of my questions. Will he publish the reports which are available? Will he acknowledge that the only person being prosecuted is an alleged informer and that no member of the Garda has been prosecuted, despite the Garda Commissioner allegedly moving some members from Donegal?

Will the Minister confirm that there is an allegation that gardaí in Donegal were bugging conversations between solicitors and clients? Is he aware that there is a widespread perception that no serious attempt is being made to come to terms with the serious allegations which have been made but that he, his Department and those involved in this matter are engaged in covering up what occurred? Does he accept that there has been an utter failure by senior members of the Garda to confront the seriousness of this issue which has implications for the public credibility of the Garda? Does he acknowledge the extent to which this issue undermines the vast majority of members of the force who go about their duties in a proper and correct fashion?

I reject that ill-tempered, outrageous and unfounded allegation in the strongest terms possible. There is no question of anyone trying to cover up anything. We are trying to ensure due process.

Due process does not take five years.

The Minister without interruption.

It would be foolhardy for me, or any Minister, to engage in procedures which were not in accordance with the established law of the land. I cannot do so as it would serve to prejudice the investigations and any subsequent trials or actions which might be taken. Everyone knows—

We must move on to the next question.

This is a scandal of enormous proportions about which the Minister has done nothing since taking office.

When will the Minister act?

This is an appalling scandal.

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