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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 28 May 2003

Vol. 567 No. 6

Adjournment Debate. - Architectural Heritage.

There seems to be agreement that Lissadell House should be acquired by the State or some combination of interests to ensure it comes into public ownership. I have not heard any objections to this. The efforts of the Gore-Booth family down the years, including the current owner, Sir Josslyn, to maintain the family home, Lissadell, is well known.

I accept that now is not the best time as far as purchasing by the State is concerned. It would have been a much simpler task in the Celtic tiger era, but we have no choice. Lissadell is on the market, and unless the Government or the county council acts now in partnership and with the agreement of the people of Sligo, the opportunity will not arise again and the Gore-Booth collection will probably be scattered.

There are excellent examples of the tourism value of large houses. The Ministers, Deputies Cullen and O'Donoghue and the Minister of State, Deputy Parlon, who would be directly involved in any purchase, have some very good examples in their constituencies. In Connacht, a marvellous job was done on Turlough House in Castlebar. It is now the home of the national folk collection and a wonderful tourist attraction. Countess Markievicz was the most significant woman in Irish history and she is the only Member of Parliament whose portrait hangs in this national Parliament.

Lissadell House or some of the excellent buildings on the estate would make a good centre for housing the national armada museum. This is bound to be developed at some stage following the discovery of three armada ships only a short distance along the coast from Lissadell. In recent times 47 canons were excavated on the shoreline. It is important that an archaeological survey is carried out into this as it would incorporate what would be a major attraction. It would be easy to imagine a well-designed combination of these two sites becoming a major tourist attraction, just the kind of attraction the region deserves and needs.

Lissadell House remains an excellent example of early 19th century neo-classical architecture. It embodies much history of landlordism, good and bad. It was the family home of Countess Markievicz and William Butler Yeats was a regular visitor. Was there ever a better case for the State to intervene? Many people outside Sligo do not fully recognise the attraction of W. B. Yeats to Irish people and tourists. A great untapped potential exists. Lissadell House should be preserved. W. B. Yeats was inspired to write in one of his famous poems:

The light of evening, Lissadell,

Great windows open to the South.

I am delighted to share time with Deputy Devins. I hope the Government will listen to this united front as it calls for the acquisition of this invaluable property.

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for the opportunity of speaking on such an important issue. Lissadell House and its estate of 400 acres are currently on the public market. The Gore-Booth family has lived in Sligo for over 400 years and has been intimately bound up with the history, not only of Sligo but also of Ireland. It is an Anglo-Irish family of the ascendancy class yet it has produced one of the foremost republicans of our time, namely, Constance Gore-Booth. I do not need to remind the House of her enormous commitment to the cause of Irish freedom. This commitment has been recognised here by the placing of a statue in her memory in the grounds of Leinster House.

Constance Gore-Booth and her sister, the well-known poet Eva Gore-Booth, were intimately connected with W. B. Yeats whose resting place, Drumcliffe graveyard, is only a few miles from Lissadell House. More than 100,000 visitors visit Yeats's grave each year. The development of a major tourist attraction, incorporating Lissadell House and estate, with Yeats's grave at Drumcliffe, would enable Sligo and the north-west to benefit from tourism to an extent that does not currently happen. The north-west does not have a major tourist facility.

The opportunity for the State to purchase Lissadell House must not be lost. The House is architecturally unique. It has remained completely unaltered since it was built 160 years ago. It constitutes a once in a lifetime opportunity for the State to acquire a building, the like of which does not exist elsewhere in Ireland.

All shades of political life in Sligo are fully supportive of this proposal. Sligo County Council will hold a special meeting next Tuesday to support the proposal and the county tourism board has already fully endorsed it. This issue transcends party politics. I ask that the Minister of State look favourably on the wishes of the people of the north-west and purchase Lissadell House and its estate for the people of Sligo and the region.

I thank Deputies Perry and Devins for raising this matter and allowing me to outline the position of the Department. The Government is keenly aware of the importance of our architectural heritage and seeks to promote it through a variety of measures, including legislation, grants, tax incentives and State ownership of such properties. Part IV of the Planning and Development Act 2000 sets out the basic legislation in this regard. It places a duty of care on the owners of protected structures and also gives planning authorities enhanced powers, not only to deal with development proposals affecting them, but also to safeguard their future.

A number of support mechanisms for owners of protected structures are in place. The main source of public funds for heritage properties is through the Heritage Council and I understand that Lissadell House has received some grants from it. The local authorities also administer a scheme of grant aid for conservation works on protected structures. Funding of €2.888 million has been allocated to the scheme this year.

The owner or occupier of a building which is determined by the Minister for the Environment and Local Government to be a building which is intrinsically of significant scientific, historical, architectural or aesthetic interest, and which is determined by the Revenue Commissioners to be a building to which reasonable access is afforded to the public, can apply under section 482 of the Taxes Consolidation Act 1997 for relief in respect of expenditure incurred in the repair, maintenance or restoration of the building. I am advised that the current owners of Lissadell House have benefited from the tax relief allowed under this provision.

Each year, there are many demands from interested parties for the State to acquire property to ensure its best protection. However, with a substantial existing portfolio of 740 properties, it would be unrealistic to think that the State can continue adding to its heritage properties on an open-ended basis. The vast majority of heritage sites are in private ownership. It is neither feasible nor desirable for the State to acquire all heritage sites and, in general, protection will best be afforded through the existing planning and national monuments legislation.

Turning to Lissadell House, it is considered to be of national importance and is so rated in the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage, not only because it is the family home of Countess Markievicz, but also because of its architecture, interior, setting and materials. Following requests that the State should acquire Lissadell House, the Minister for the Environment and Local Government, Deputy Cullen, has asked his officials, in conjunction with Sligo County Council, to assess the property and to report back to him. Once he has a full report on the matter, covering issues such as the condition of the house, possible future uses, running costs etc., he will be in a position to make a considered judgment with regard to any future role for the State in managing the property.

I will report to the Minister what the Deputies have said. I understand the inspection will take place shortly. There are two issues at play here of which buying it is only one. What is done with it thereafter and the issues of running costs and expenses etc. might be the bigger of the two problems in the long-term.

It requires a good partnership.

It is an important property and the Minister will give it his consideration when he receives the report.

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