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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 9 Feb 2023

Vol. 1033 No. 2

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions

Tá costais morgáiste ardaithe ag na mílte úinéirí tí mar thoradh ar ardú na rátaí úis atá feicthe le cúpla mí anuas. Éireoidh sé níos measa sna míonna atá amach romhainn de réir mar a mhéadaíonn rátaí trasna an bhoird agus de réir mar a bhíonn oibrithe agus teaghlaigh ag déileáil leis an ngéarchéim costais maireachtála. Tá tacaíocht agus faoiseamh morgáiste de dhíth orthu.

For homeowners, the cost-of-living crisis has opened up a new front, as mortgage-interest rates continue to rise. The European Central Bank, ECB, increased its key interest rate which took effect yesterday and a further hike expected is next month. As we know, retail banks have not yet passed on ECB rate hikes in full, but it is widely expected that rates will rise significantly across the board in the coming months.

For others, the impact has been immediate and severe. The tens of thousands of homeowners who had their mortgages sold off to vulture funds were time and again given assurances by Government Ministers that they had nothing to worry about. The Taoiseach told them they would be no worse off while the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform went so far as to say that he would be happy for his own mortgage to be sold off to a vulture fund. These assurances were naïve in the extreme back then and they have proven to be completely false.

My party and I warned of this years ago. Now the tens of thousands of borrowers whose loans are held by vulture funds are at the sharp edge of these interest rate hikes. Many of them are facing interest rates as high as 7.5%. They are paying as much as €400 more per month in interest than they would be paying had their mortgages not been sold off. They have no option to switch or to fix their rate. They describe themselves as mortgage prisoners with nowhere to turn.

One homeowner contacted me whose mortgage was sold by Permanent TSB to Start Mortgages. She is a full-time carer for her son, who has cerebral palsy. By January she had received four letters each informing her of a further rate increase. She will be paying over €4,000 in additional interest this year, with further hikes down the line, with the hike that took effect yesterday and the one that is planned for March. She said that hikes across the board are barely sustainable, but to have the constant fear every month of the next increase coming and how to finance the previous month's increase, is inhumane.

Many households face this reality. They have received as many as five letters through the door and will receive a sixth next month, when the ECB hikes its rates again. As banks increase their interest rates in the coming months, thousands more households will face higher mortgage costs. For many this is breaking point.

Being able to pay the mortgage is just as important as being able to pay the rent or the energy bill. The alternatives are just as serious: arrears, increased debt and financial hardship. Sinn Féin has called on the Government to introduce targeted and temporary mortgage interest relief to support homeowners who are and will face spiralling interest and mortgage costs. The Minister for Finance has rejected this proposal; he is wrong to do so.

Fianna Fáil campaigned in the 2016 general election to extend mortgage interest relief when rates for many were half what they are now for those whose mortgages are in the hands of the vultures. So I am asking, will the Government introduce targeted and temporary mortgage interest relief to support these homeowners who are now paying up to 7.5% interest into the hands of vulture funds and will be paying 8% when the ECB increases its interest rate within four weeks?

This was debated with the Sinn Féin motion last night and it was also raised on Leaders' Questions yesterday. The Deputy knows that the formulation of monetary policy is an independent matter for the European Central Bank. We are acutely aware that the ECB has hiked its key interest rates by 3% since last July to fight inflation. That is why it is being done. We expect two further rate increases. It is up to each individual lender to decide on whether to pass on those increases. The Government has no role in setting retail interest rates, as the Deputy also knows. That is solely a commercial matter for the individual lenders. It is also important to note that the average interest rate on new mortgages in Ireland was 2.69% in December and the average rate for mortgages in the eurozone was just short of 3%. We have one of the lowest new variable rates in Europe. That has been a significant change over recent years.

At the finance committee last month, representatives from the Central Bank reiterated that regulated lenders including banks and non-banks have very clear obligations under the code of conduct on mortgage arrears and the Central Banks supervisory regime to have supports, resources and options available for any borrower who feels they may be challenged in meeting their mortgage repayments. In November 2022 the Central Bank wrote to lenders to emphasise the onus on them to review their product lines and suites of options to make sure they remain fit for purpose. In the case of credit, that means making sure the loans remain affordable. Thankfully, we have seen a continued reduction in long-standing mortgage arrears where rates have fallen quite substantially in the last number of years. The banks' supervisory regime focuses on affordability and kicks in not just when a person falls into arrears but when a person is facing arrears. It is more extensive, detailed and intrusive than in any other European jurisdiction. The Central Bank said last week that the area on which it is most focused is the one which Deputy Doherty has raised, namely, the 38,000 borrowers who are on high interest rates with the non-bank lenders who do not have a full suite of options available to them. Many cannot switch into fixed rates. Many can and are not aware that they can if their loan is a performing loan now. The Minister for Finance, Deputy Michael McGrath, met the Governor of the Central Bank this week and asked the regulator if it needs more legal powers to assist such mortgage holders. That is being worked on right now. Borrowers facing financial difficulty should engage with lenders as early as possible as a way of addressing the issues. Borrowers can appeal any decision to the Financial Services Ombudsman.

On specific tax measures, the Deputy knows that tax decisions are made in a co-ordinated way through the annual budget process which generally follows the establishment of a pathway taking into account the national economic dialogue, the summer economic statement and the tax strategy group deliberations. Mortgage interest relief cost the Exchequer more than €700 million a year if you go back to 2008, which was the final year before the gradual phasing out of mortgage-interest relief. Sinn Féin's proposals to reintroduce mortgage-interest relief would be of no benefit to fixed-rate mortgages yet the average outstanding balance as of June 2022 on tracker mortgages is about €107,000 whereas the corresponding figure for fixed-rate mortgages is just short of €175,000. Moreover the average new mortgage draw-down in the third quarter of 2022 was €284,000. Thankfully, the vast majority of new mortgages in Ireland now, over 90%, are on a fixed-rate basis. There are issues with the non-bank lenders and the Minister for Finance has been working with the Governor of the Central Bank about strengthening its code and asking the Central Bank what additional powers it would require to help in the area.

When the Minister's party clubbed with Fine Gael to prevent legislation to ensure these loans were not sold to the vulture funds, it gave commitments that people would be no worse off. How naive was that? How false a promise was that? These individuals are paying thousands and thousands of euro more as a result of their mortgages being sold to a vulture fund. I gave the example of Rachel. She is paying €4,000 in interest more than she was paying this time last year. That is a serious amount of money and it is before this month's interest-rate hike kicks in or that of next month. The Government handed them over to the vultures and the vultures are preying on them now. They are being charged 7.5% interest and it will go up next month to 8%. The Minister says it is over to the Central Bank. We know the limitations of the Central Bank. These vulture funds, in the main, are not offering fixed rates or reduced rates. Their offer to customers is one of "pay your mortgage or we come after you". There is a solution here. It is not to take away all of the pain but about reintroducing mortgage-interest relief in a targeted and tailored way.

That is not the way it introduced it in the past, which covered all interests, but to cover the increased interest since June of last year. Does the Minister not consider it appropriate that people paying over €5,000 more in interest should have a measure introduced to help them in the middle of a cost-of-living crisis?

It is slightly disingenuous to look at this in isolation. The Deputy neglected to mention the cost-of-living measures we brought forward in the last budget, which was the most significant package of measures brought forward and more than even the Deputy’s party looked for. Sinn Féin's targeted measure, as far as we can discern, would affect about 716,000 mortgages. That party has not provided costings to us, though it was asked for them. We estimate that approach would cost about €655 million. It has to make choices within that.

That is nonsense.

It is not. I ask the Deputy to publish his proposals because on any issue, he brings forward what he deems simple solutions but never publishes costings or legislation for them.

That is not true.

You bring forward a motion. The reality of it is-----

What about those you handed over to the vultures?

The Minister, without interruption.

-----this Government’s stewardship of our economy over the past two or three years has meant we have been able to bring forward unprecedented measures in relation to the cost of living and increased social welfare payments targeted at the right people.

You handed these families to the vultures. What are you going to do?

The issue of non-bank lenders is a real one.

I have said to the Deputy, for fear of repeating myself-----

You will do nothing.

-----that the Minister, Deputy Michael McGrath, has engaged with the Central Bank in that space.

It was the Central Bank that reduced interest rates.

The Deputy should provide his costings and publish them.

My Labour Party colleagues and I have come from the funeral in Blackrock of our dear friend and colleague, the pioneering former Minister for Education, Niamh Bhreathnach. I acknowledge the presence at the funeral of not only the President but also a representative of the Taoiseach; the Minister, Deputy Foley; the Minister of State, Deputy Carroll MacNeill; and Deputy Devlin. I express on my behalf and that of the Labour Party our appreciation for that and we send our sincere thoughts, condolences and sympathies to Tom, Cliodhna, Macdara and all of Niamh’s friends and wider community. She has left a tremendous legacy and while we will have the opportunity to speak further on that at another date, I wanted to acknowledge it today.

In the past 24 hours, my office has heard from several individuals who have languished on the housing list for years wondering when, if ever, they will have somewhere to call home. We have heard from a constituent facing an imminent and illegal eviction who cannot get a response from the Residential Tenancies Board, from an employee forced to commute six hours per day from Mayo to Dublin due to the lack of affordable housing here and from a homelessness case worker who is re-evaluating their career due to burnout.

The Government’s over-reliance on the private sector for the supply of housing is a strategy that is failing all those people who have contacted me and is failing people across the country. In six years, Dublin City Council has spent €220 million buying back former local authority homes, according to Sharon McGowan’s report for The Times. The State funnels close to €1 billion into the pockets of private landlords each year through the housing assistance payment, HAP, and other rent subsidy schemes. That is a stark example of what we can call the sunk cost fallacy, this Government’s addiction to doling out public money to the private sector at the expense of spending that money on investment in State-built and State-owned housing. Why are we continuing to spend so much money subsidising private sector provision instead of building public housing on public land?

Week in and week out, we hear the same narrative with different figures and new initiatives from the Government. The reality is that none of those initiatives have delivered for the people who have contacted my office or who are contacting all of us all the time.

This week’s Housing for All progress report makes for depressing reading because its promises and aspirations jar with the reality of those contacting my office, and jar with repeated calls from organisations like Focus Ireland and Threshold and from front-line workers. We have seen seven years of strong economic growth wasted, when we should have seen investment in housing provision. The problem has got worse.

This evening the Dáil will debate a Labour Party motion to introduce real, substantial measures to deliver on housing, including an emergency public house-building programme, the extension of the eviction ban to the end of the year and the strengthening of the tenant in situ scheme. We ask for fast-tracking of our constructive legislative proposals: our homeless families Bill, our renters’ rights Bill and our Kenny report Bill. All of those, if adopted and enacted by the Government, could and would make a real difference in addressing the housing crisis.

I also pay my deepest sympathies to Niamh Bhreathnach’s family, colleagues in the Labour Party and friends. I had the pleasure of meeting her on a couple of occasions. She was a fine person who leaves a strong legacy in education and will be sorely missed. I thank the Deputy for her kind remarks on the attendance from Government. There will be an appropriate time to pay tributes to an outstanding Minister for Education. I ask the Deputy to please pass on the Government’s deepest sympathies to the family and to colleagues in the Labour Party.

On housing, we are acutely aware of the scale of the challenge the Government and country face in relation to increasing housing provision across the board in all tenures. We are not reliant on the private sector. The Deputy made one point which I think is wholly incorrect. I say this respectfully. She talks of €1 billion being funnelled into the pockets of private landlords. That is €1 billion that supports 60,000 tenancies, real families on housing assistance payments. People who continue to make the charge that it is a subsidy or cash bonus for private landlords are wholly incorrect. It supports 60,00 households in this country. We have seen over the past three years a reduction in the increase in HAP. We are seeing people transfer out of HAP. How do we do that? We need to build more public homes and more affordable homes.

If the Deputy saw the recently published progress report for Housing for All, she will also have seen that last year, under Housing for All, we far exceeded our target for overall delivery. Just short of 30,000 new homes were built. We will deliver more new-built social homes in 2022 then we have done in 50 years, since 1975. Those figures will be published shortly. We have provided cost rental for the first time ever to hundreds of tenancies and want to do thousands. That is State-backed affordable rental at below-market price. I have met many of the tenants who have moved in. It is a very popular new form of tenure. There is affordable purchase for the first time in 15 years led by local authorities. I have approved 42 schemes with 2,800 new homes across 15 counties. The first home scheme has seen over 900 approvals already, which is 900 new homes that families are able to buy. Many of them were renting and stuck in a rental trap. We have bridged the viability and affordability gap for them.

The measures we have taken are taking hold. Housing for All has been in place for only one year and there is much more to do in that space. We want to build more social homes and affordable homes this year, and will do so.

I thank the Minister for his kind words about Niamh Bhreathnach. We appreciate that very much.

We seek to be constructive in addressing the housing crisis and to put forward positive proposals for change that would deliver on housing. That is the purpose of our motion this evening and we were disappointed last night to see Government put down an amendment to that motion. We ask it to withdraw the amendment and work with us and all in opposition who seek to be constructive in this regard.

I accept the €900 million in rent subsidies is essential to keep families and households out of homelessness but it illustrates the short-sightedness of Government housing policy over the past seven years that that level of financing is not seen instead in the provision of public housing on public land, which would be an investment for the State and have a longer-term impact on keeping families and individuals out of homelessness.

Will the Minister address the fact that the number of people entering homelessness reached a record high of 11,632 in December? No matter what figures are given and what initiatives are announced, the housing policy is not working and we need to see innovative and constructive ways to address that. We seek to help the Government in doing that.

I have found the Labour Party to be constructive in many areas of the debate on housing. I welcome that and it contrasts greatly with some other parties on the Opposition benches.

The two parties who caused the housing crisis working together.

The Labour Party is in government now.

We have to acknowledge progress and we have to build the capacity to provide the homes we need. We set a target last year of 24,600 and exceeded it by over 5,000. We have a target this year of 29,000 and intend to exceed that too.

We are doing that by investing €4.5 billion in Exchequer moneys this year. I would compare that with the last time we had a Labour Party Minister with responsibility for housing in 2015, when €400 million was invested in housing-----

When the State was bankrupted by Fianna Fáil.

It is €4.5 billion now-----

(Interruptions).

-----and we are building social homes.

(Interruptions).

With regard to building public homes on public land, we capitalised the Land Development Agency, LDA. We passed the legislation to get that done. We have broken ground on the largest public site in decades at Shanganagh Castle. That is happening but we cannot turn this around in one year. We have made good progress in the first year of Housing for All, however. We intend to build on that this year and we will do so.

The North Quays project in Waterford is finally happening. It was originally conceived in the 1990s when the then Minister, Martin Cullen, launched a design competition for the north wharf. It is marvellous to see the contractor finally appointed and hard hats and white vans arriving to the site.

It took a massive and sustained effort to bring this project to fruition. That effort included predecessors of the Minister, Deputy Darragh O'Brien, namely, the former Minister, Martin Cullen, and former Minister of State, Paudie Coffey, as well as the steadfast stewardship of Waterford City and County Council under Mr. Michael Walsh. I also acknowledge the Minister and his Department's front-bench engagement with me on the project.

The Minister has cut the Gordian knot and made it happen. By his action, he has gone some way to restoring the hope of Waterford for better times ahead. I also look forward to the opening of the new Irish wake museum in the heart of Waterford's Viking Triangle. I again acknowledge the support of the Minister's Department to Waterford and to me in the delivery of this further outstanding historical project to the city's impressive tourism offering.

That said, the rose is not without its thorns. The Minister's Department has let Waterford down with regard to student accommodation. The national student accommodation strategy, which began in 2016 and will run for another two years, is a shared policy between the Minister's Department and the Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science. Remarkably, despite all the big talk about expanding Waterford's university - big all-action talk that was in the last three programmes for Government - the Minister's plan provides for no additional student accommodation in Waterford; not a single bed more than the 2,500 or so units that have been in the city now for 20 years, many of which were developed by the old Waterford Institute of Technology, WIT, all the while providing for expansion of student accommodation in every other university city in Ireland, which the Minister's Department is doing.

I gather this plan is the reason why the Waterford Crystal site has not been acquired to date despite the Taoiseach stating in this House that it was the Government's intention to acquire that site more than two years ago. I am also given to understand it is why the LDA and other streams of public funding cannot be accessed to support student accommodation being developed in Waterford. Will the Minister build on the momentum of the north quays and commit to revising the national student accommodation strategy to put ambitious targets in place for Waterford? Without ending this discrimination, it appears we cannot unlock and unleash the significant development potential of our region.

I thank Deputy Shanahan for his comments. Specifically in relation to the North Quays project, I had the pleasure of visiting the city of Waterford on a number of occasions. The overall Exchequer commitment to Waterford on that project alone is approximately €170 million. Overall, it is approximately €200 million when the contribution from Waterford City and County Council is taken into account. I agree with the Deputy and share his words of commendation to Mr. Michael Walsh and his team in Waterford. It is an extremely progressive local authority that is doing fantastic work.

The North Quays project will be transformative. It is a fantastic city and a great county with massive potential. This Government is committed to Waterford. I know the Deputy is likewise, as is my good colleague, the Minister of State, Deputy Butler, Deputy Ó Cathasaigh and many others who advocate so strongly for development in Waterford. It is great to see the North Quays contracts being signed and contractors in place. I intend to visit on 6 March to see the work in progress. That will unlock so much within the city and will also be able to provide more homes in that area.

With regard to student accommodation, the Deputy will know that the Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science, Deputy Harris, in November received Government approval and support on outline proposals to increase the supply of student accommodation. Waterford will not be left out. The Minister last week met the chair of South East Technological University, SETU, to discuss its plans to develop additional accommodation. Those discussions are ongoing. It is the only technological university, TU, in the country that has student accommodation and it needs more. With regard to the expansion of the campus, that is still a Government commitment. Discussions are ongoing with regard to a number of options but, specifically, the Waterford Crystal site. That is something on which the Minister, Deputy Harris, is working with Government and Government colleagues.

The provision of student accommodation is so important right across the country. Many students are renting homes when they would rather be on campus in affordable student accommodation. Those homes will also be freed up when we provide more student accommodation. I commend the Minister, Deputy Harris, on the work he has done in that space. We have already been able to activate a number of paused planning permissions for student accommodation because of the initiatives brought forward by this Government to provide hundreds more student beds on campus this year at an affordable price. We want to do thousands more for students themselves, for their education and their experience in third-level and fourth-level education. Many wish to live on or close to campus in purpose-built student accommodation and we are committed to doing that. We are the first Government that brought forward a specific plan in that space. I will relay the points made by the Deputy directly to the Minister, Deputy Harris. However, the plans for expansion of the university campus are still in train and are being worked on.

It is great to hear that all these great things are going to be done. I have raised the issue of borrowing and the national student accommodation strategy a number of times, however. Despite WIT and now SETU having a track record as being the only TU in the country delivering student accommodation, it has been roundly hobbled by the Department's national strategy; so much so, in fact, that funders can see that the student accommodation in Waterford has zero Government support at this point. How can we build a functioning university in the south east if we cannot accommodate our students? This Government has been in office now for two and a half years and we have been told continually about all the great things that are going to happen for our university. I met representatives of the Department within the past ten days. No borrowing framework has been agreed. No-one is carrying hods on a site on Waterford and there are no cranes or boots on the ground. Planning permission has not even yet been secured. There are no prizes for plans. Delivered actions are what we need to see. I ask that this be actioned now.

The Deputy used the example of the North Quays project. We gave a commitment to Waterford that precedes this Government. The Deputy mentioned how this goes back to the former Minister, Martin Cullen. We have delivered on that, however. The most significant investment in the region is through the urban regeneration and development fund. People can see the colour of our money in that space and that we made good on our commitments.

As I said, the Minister, Deputy Harris, met the chair of the university last week and discussions are ongoing. Those discussions were specifically around plans to develop additional student accommodation. This Government, in our programme for Government but also in Housing for All, made a commitment to allow the technological universities to borrow and we are doing that. The borrowing frameworks are being put in place. That is a big change. We have an opportunity now to provide purpose-built affordable student accommodation in our technological universities right across the country. I can assure the Deputy that Waterford will not be left out. Those discussions are detailed and ongoing. We will keep the Deputy apprised of the progress. I thank him for his support in that regard.

I thank the Minister very much. We will move now to the Rural Independent Group. I call Deputy O'Donoghue.

Housing for All is non-existent in County Limerick. I put the question now to the Minister as to why that is. Am I correct in saying that Uisce Éireann, formerly Irish Water, was commissioned as a provider of safe, clean and affordable water and wastewater services for all water users? Water and wastewater services were previously provided by the local authorities. It was designed as a stand-alone national authority for water services. Why is this not happening? We are now ready to start building in our towns and villages for our local people and local economies.

The Minister appeared on a video a couple of months ago with Councillor Kevin Sheahan. People have been looking for a treatment system in Askeaton for 37 years. That was promised by all the Ministers outside of this Government and by this Government. It has been 37 years. The Government promised this when I sat on the Adare-Rathkeale council and has yet to deliver it. It just keeps saying it will happen next year.

Some 37 years have passed and Oola is without a proper sewerage system, Kilfinnane is without a proper sewerage system, Dromcolliher is without a proper sewerage system, as are Askeaton and Abbeyfeale. One can go across the board. How am I supposed to ask people to come in and invest in our towns and villages when the Government will not give us the basic services? When will the Minister make Irish Water accountable for this? We asked it to go out and look at the services in Croom. There are 100 houses waiting to be built in Croom. Irish Water came back to the builders and the developers to ask them to pay Irish Water to do a survey in Croom. We have 100 houses that could be built there tomorrow morning. All we are hearing from the Government is the first quarter and then the second quarter. Irish Water is now coming back to ask people to pay for a survey, which was done before it took it over from the councils. Now there is only 300 capacity left on the system, when they have put down a new road. Before they did that I asked if there was enough capacity to service the area including Eli Lilly which is coming to Limerick, which is ten minutes in the road from Croom. We could service that economy, yet it puts down new roads and does not look at the services we need.

I am looking to service a circular economy. God forbid if a business had to go to the bank tomorrow morning to look for a loan. What is the first thing it will ask? It will ask if the business can give its projections for the next five years. The banks will ask about those projections and how many people will come into the area to service the business. One can say one cannot do it as we have no basic water or sewerage services. The population in our towns cannot increase and this means there is no business. It all comes back to infrastructure, about which I have been asking all the time and which the Government has been promising for 20 years and now for 30 years and it still has not delivered for the people of County Limerick out of all of the other counties.

I thank Deputy O'Donoghue for the question. The Deputy is very passionate about this issue, and rightly so. There are many towns and villages across the State that do not have sufficient wastewater treatment capacity or even wastewater treatment plants. The Deputy will be aware that last year I announced in addition to the €6 billion capital budget Irish Water has - it has a multiannual plan so it can plan into the future and deliver those projects - an additional scheme for unsewered villages and I expect to make announcements before Easter on that. There are a number of schemes in Limerick that have been sent forward by the local authority there. The Deputy is right that there are really good villages right across this country that would expand if they had the capacity. We want that to happen.

We are doing that in other ways as well. There is the Croí Cónaithe vacancy grant, for example, which I have extended to rural one-off houses, to towns, to villages and to cities. Since that grant was launched, in Limerick alone we have had 63 applications through the system. We want a lot more. Since 2019 we have brought back 212 properties into use in Limerick. These were vacant and derelict properties. The local authority in Limerick has been very good at acquiring properties through compulsory purchase orders. They have acquired some 153 in the last couple of years.

With regard to the Deputy's assertion that Housing for All does not exist in Limerick, that is just not true. I say that respectfully. We have 1,220 social homes approved in Limerick in the system, with another 1,600 at pre-approval stage. We have moved them through a very good pipeline. We have approved the first two affordable schemes in Limerick, as the Deputy will be aware. The affordable purchase scheme did not exist in Limerick previously. We have a very progressive local authority there.

I will visit Limerick next Monday. The Deputy may be aware that we have invested €116 million in the Opera Square site and the regeneration of Limerick city. This will have a great positive impact on the county also. I will visit the Opera Square site on Monday. We have approved further borrowing there too. There is a number of very significant sites there also, including the Cleeves site. There is an excellent development team at Limerick Twenty Thirty that works very closely with me and with the Department. There is a lot to be positive about with Limerick city and the region. This Government is committed to the regions and to developing in the regions. I have given the Deputy some examples of what we are doing.

The Deputy might be glad to know that I will also visit a private development in Patrickswell, which is 111 new homes, for which people will be able to access the First Home scheme, which is the equity scheme to bridge the gap between the finance a person has and the finance he or she needs. Again, this is in Housing for All. We have had more than 900 approvals for the scheme in six short months. These will be 900 homes for real families there. It is good to see private development happening there too.

Other things need to be done and we need to expedite the delivery of wastewater treatment and especially in areas that do not have systems at the moment. I expect to make announcements in that regard in advance of April. I will keep the Deputy fully informed of that.

I thank the Minister for that response. I am glad the Minister brought up Limerick Twenty Thirty as I am a former member of that board. I understand the investments being made but all the investments the Minister named out today are actually in Limerick city. I want Limerick city to thrive. The Patrickswell development is actually run by the local authority under the city councillors. I am talking about the county. This is where I want to go with this discussion. It is Limerick City and County Council, so the funding should come to city and county councils. When we consider Limerick as a whole in the context of the Land Development Agency it only covers areas that are ten to 15 minutes from the cities. This takes out more than two thirds of Limerick county. This is what I am saying. The Minister is not looking outside of the 15-minute window. The city is in the corner but the county goes all the way to Abbeyfeale and all the way over to the Mitchelstown border. This is what the Government has forgotten about. The Government is not putting in the investment there. I do welcome the investment that is coming to Limerick but I want it to come to all of Limerick. The Government promised in Askeaton that it would deliver but still it has not delivered. When will the Minister deliver? While it is great that the Government promises these things but where can I cash promises? I cannot cash it anywhere. Promises are no good to me unless the Minister fulfils the promise. I will stand over this to make sure that the Government does deliver for county and for city.

I have given the Deputy a number of examples of investment, and not just in Limerick city but also across the county. In Castletroy for example where we have approved-----

It is Limerick City and County Council. The city will drive the region too. We are committed to the county of Limerick as well.

I will hold the Minister to that.

I have given the Deputy a number of real examples of what we are doing there. I have also said that I will be making announcements on the rural towns and villages sewerage scheme before Easter this year. They include schemes in Limerick. These are being assessed right now by the Environmental Protection Agency, by my Department and by Uisce Éireann. This provides additionality that is outside of Irish Water's own capital programme. For the first time, Uisce Éireann did need to see that they had the security of a multiannual programme. It knows it has the capital between now and 2026. That is why we are seeing the ramping up of the delivery of much needed infrastructure right across the counties in the Republic including Limerick. Limerick county is not forgotten about by this Government. I can absolutely assure the Deputy of that. My Government colleagues, the Ministers of State, Deputy Niall Collins, Deputy Kieran O'Donnell, and Deputy Patrick O'Donovan, and Deputy O'Donoghue, will ensure that this is kept to the forefront of the agenda. I will be making announcements with regard to those schemes before Easter.

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