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JOINT COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 18 Jan 2006

Emissions Trading Scheme: Presentations.

There will now be presentations on the emissions trading scheme by Ecocem and the Cement Manufacturers Association of Ireland. I welcome the delegates from Ecocem Ireland Limited, Mr. Donal O'Riain and Mr. PeterSeymour. Ecocem asked to make a presentation to the committee on the emissions trading scheme. I also welcome the delegates from the Cement Manufacturers Association of Ireland, Mr. Jim Nolan, Mr. Jack Duffy, and Mr. Colm Bannon. Members can raise issues with either party when the presentations conclude.

I draw attention to the fact that members of this committee have absolute privilege, but that this same privilege does not apply to witnesses appearing before the committee. Members are also reminded of the long-standing parliamentary practice to the effect that they should not comment on, criticise or make charges against a person outside the House or an official by name or in such a way as to make him or her identifiable. Following the presentations, questions and answers must be put through the Chair. Exchanges should not take place between parties presenting today.

Mr. Donal O’Riain

I thank the Chairman and committee members for inviting us here today to talk about what is a very serious matter that directly impacts on our company and our operation in Ireland. We wrote to the Chairman and committee members before Christmas, briefly explaining the situation and requesting the opportunity to come before the committee to explain it directly.

The emissions trading scheme, as it is being applied in Ireland, will result in our company, the only producer of green cement in Ireland, being put out of business. If that happens, there will be no winners. A perfectly good company will be destroyed. The cement sector will lose a very important component of its response to achieving the Kyoto Protocol targets in Ireland to reduce CO2 emissions. Costs will be incurred by the Exchequer, which will have to pick up penalties that could rise to €30 million per annum to cover the shortfall in CO2 emissions that will arise due to closure of our operation.

The Chairman also noted that an invitation was extended to the Cement Manufacturers Association of Ireland. I am pleased to see that its representatives are also here and I will listen to their presentation with great interest. I understand the special problems encountered in the cement sector due to the pressure to decrease CO2 emissions. However, I must focus on the problems that affect my company.

We have invested €10 million in a new plant which started operations just over two years ago in the port of Dublin. That plant produces about 300,000 tonnes of green cement. The cement itself has technically excellent characteristics, it is sold at a competitive price and we have achieved a 6% to 7% share of the Irish cement market. It is the only plant which uses a clean technology to produce cement in Ireland. It is the single most important project to reduce CO2 emissions in this country. When a tonne of ordinary cement is produced, it produces approximately 1 tonne of CO2 emissions. When we produce a tonne of our cement, it produces less than 5% of that amount. By replacing ordinary cement with a cement of our type, a substantial reduction in CO2 emissions occurs. On a few occasions, I have listened to the difficulties that the Minister, Deputy Roche, has in achieving the Kyoto Protocol target in Ireland. I sympathise with those difficulties, because reducing CO2 emissions is a costly business. If we were to comply with the Kyoto Protocol target, Ireland would be required to reduce our current level of emissions by 20% across the board. This can only be very costly for the country. However, not achieving it can also be costly, as it exposes us to costs and fines. We have a product which, at no cost to the economy, will produce a saving of 300,000 tonnes per annum of CO2 emissions. These are the "no regrets" options that the country needs to take in building its way towards full compliance with the target.

There are alternatives to using our product as a way of reducing CO2 emissions. However, if our 300,000 tonne reduction per annum was to be achieved in the transport sector, we would need to take 70,000 cars off the road. If members feel forcing 70,000 irate car owners to lock up their cars in their garages is an easier option, then they are welcome to pursue that policy. However, if we hold on to the advantage that our product provides, then we get the equivalent advantage at no cost and with no disruption to the economy.

The problem arises from Ecocem's purchase of raw material from the European steel industry under long-term secure supply contracts which require us to pay the market price for the material. The material is known as granulated slag. It comes from the separation in a blast furnace of iron from other materials which are recovered as slag and granulated in a special process. We then buy the granulated product from the cement industry and produce a dried and finely ground version at our plant in Dublin. A jar containing this finished product is available to be viewed by committee members.

Why should the sourcing of granulated slag in Europe be a problem for Ecocem? The problem arises because of the emissions trading scheme which operates as a reward system for those who reduce CO2 emissions. In other words, if a producer which produces 1 million tonnes of CO2 annually reduces that amount by 1 tonne, the advantage to that producer is one carbon credit, which can then be sold on several markets in Europe. The price of those credits this morning was just short of €25 per credit. We compete with the continent-based European cement producers for access to the material. Cement companies in Europe use the material to produce cement but, as a by-product of this production, its CO2 emissions reduce and it collects an advantage of almost €25 per tonne as a result. When Ecocem buys that product, it has no access to the reward system for CO2 reduction, yet, when the product is imported into Ireland and put into the market, it has exactly the same effect in that it results in a reduction in overall CO2 emissions. Therefore, in effect, the emissions trading scheme system affects Ecocem's raw materials supply in a way that effectively offers a subsidy of €25 per tonne to our major competitors to buy a product that is currently priced at approximately €14 to €15 per tonne.

It is economically impossible for us to remain in a market where we are competing against companies which have a €25 subsidy to buy the product we buy. The cement industry in Europe wants to buy every tonne of this product because it produces approximately 200 million tonnes of cement annually whereas the maximum quantity of granulated slag available is 18 million tonnes. It is an extremely scarce product and the introduction of the emissions trading scheme, which puts a premium value on anything that can reduce CO2 emissions, has pushed up demand. Therefore, there is huge demand from the cement industry, which is reflected in a sizeable increase in prices in recent years, a trend which is set to continue.

Ecocem is the only purchaser in Europe which competes on this basis, which only applied from 1 January 2005 with the introduction of the emissions trading scheme. That date marks the point of departure from which two categories of buyers emerged: those which can be rewarded under the emissions trading scheme for reducing CO2 emissions and those such as Ecocem which cannot.

In describing the situation in this way, the first word that may occur to committee members is "discrimination", which is appropriate. Ecocem received strong legal opinion, which is contained in the documentation circulated to members. That legal opinion points to two major defects in the way the emissions trading scheme is being applied in Ireland, although they are not defects in the scheme itself, which presents no problems with regard to European law. One defect is that the directive calls for no discrimination in its application between activities and enterprises. Clearly, this is not being respected. The second defect is that as buyers of part of the 18 million tonnes of slag available in Europe for conversion to cement, we are part of a very substantial activity but we are the only part that is being treated unequally. Equal treatment is one of the superior laws of the European Union, as decided by the European Court. Therefore, Ireland is also in conflict with the EU treaty in terms of the way it is applying the scheme. These are serious legal conflicts which mean that the Government is acting illegally in allowing a discriminatory system to be applied.

Fortunately, a simple solution is available, one that fully respects the requirements of the directive in terms of non-discrimination. That simple solution involves two steps. The first step is that Ecocem's role in the cement sector in Ireland must be recognised by the emissions trading scheme and its activity must be considered as an activity to which the emissions trading scheme applies. What that does, in effect, is give Ecocem potential access to the rewards available within the scheme for reducing CO2 emissions. The second step is that, once inside the scheme, an allocation of carbon allowances should be made to all the participants, including Ecocem, which would remove any discrimination between Ecocem and companies with which it competes for raw materials.

If these two simple measures are taken, there will be no further conflict with EU law or with the directive that applies to the emissions trading scheme. Under the directive and the statutory instrument that transposes the directive into Irish law, the Government has powers to apply these changes from 2008 and to select what activities are covered by the scheme — the scope of the scheme is entirely a decision of the Government. While 2008 may seem well into the future, the decisions as to what happens in 2008 under the emissions trading scheme will be taken in Ireland in the coming days, weeks and months. The new national allocation plan must be presented to Brussels in June 2006. The initial and most important decisions in terms of how the scheme is to be applied in Ireland will be taken by the Government in the coming days or weeks, at the latest by early February.

It is urgent that the Government corrects the illegalities currently being practised under the scheme, that it avoids the self-inflicted damage to our ability to make progress towards respecting our Kyoto Protocol obligations and that the cement sector in Ireland is given credit for its contribution to reducing CO2 emissions as part of its overall response to the problem. There is a possible win-win-win situation, in which Ecocem can survive and thrive in the Irish market in the long-term and continue to make available a reduction of 300,000 tonnes of CO2 emissions per annum, which by any standards is a substantial contribution towards achieving our Kyoto Protocol target, while the cement sector of which we are a part can count that reduction as part of its overall sector contribution towards meeting the challenge which we all must face in terms of more sustainable development practices within the industry.

I ask the committee to act urgently, within a matter of days, to draw the attention of the Ministers or Ministers involved to the legal issue and to the economic and environmental issue of the potential loss for the country of a huge saving in CO2 emissions. This is a matter of survival for Ecocem Ireland. If we cannot get satisfaction in any other way, we will have to have recourse to legal means to try to do so. However, I remain optimistic that with the support and encouragement of the committee, a sensible, balanced solution can be found which enables us to continue in operation and the country to benefit from our presence here in terms of CO2 reduction.

Are there any questions for the delegation from Ecocem?

My question concerns the allocation on the pilot phase of the emissions trading regime. Am I correct in stating Ecocem received no allocation?

Mr. O’Riain

Ecocem was not regarded as being part of the scheme. It was, therefore, impossible to provide it with an allocation. I understand that, technically, this is the correct interpretation of the scheme. We are not a listed activity covered by the scheme. This is why it is important that, from 2008 onwards, the country uses the freedom it has to reclassify this list to include clean technology in our sector and other sectors so the scheme can operate in the proper fashion. The scheme was intended to offer an incentive to people to reduce CO2 emissions. Since we are responding to this incentive, we should benefit from it. The only way we can do so is by being part of the scheme.

The range of activities in the pilot scheme, which are detailed in appendix I of the directive, was decided by Brussels. When the full scheme is introduced in 2008, the responsibility for deciding which activities will be included returns to the Irish Government. We have our hands free to solve this problem from 2008 onwards.

It appears the Government has given a free ride to the existing manufacturers in this area. I remember raising this concern at the time. It seemed curious that a Government would effectively subsidise existing businesses and make it increasingly difficult for new, possibly environmentally friendly, businesses to get into the market. This is worrying, particularly when we hear that the proportion of greenhouse gas emissions per tonne seems to be one-twentieth that of traditional cement. We should be bending over backwards to facilitate these kinds of solutions to climate change.

In its presentation, Ecocem recommends that the Government should extend the range of activities covered by the emissions trading scheme to include green cement and that it should instruct the Environmental Protection Agency to allocate allowances to green cement producers. If this does not happen, it appears that Ecocem will take the legal route because it has furnished the committee with a legal opinion. If the Government does not change its mind, will Ecocem pursue the legal route?

Mr. O’Riain

If the Government makes a decision in the coming weeks that does not recognise our position in the way we have suggested or in an equivalent way, the legal route is the only option open to us.

Did Mr. O'Riain mention that it is open to the producer of the raw material, which is ground granulated blastfurnace slag, to take advantage of the credits?

Mr. O’Riain

Is the Senator referring to granulated slag?

Yes. Is it open to the companies from which Ecocem Ireland Limited would purchase this raw material to take emission credits?

Mr. O’Riain

No, they are unable to benefit from the scheme. They are not very happy about and have made a case to Brussels for a rethink on it. Since Brussels has indicated that the earliest possible date for action on this issue is 2013, the issue will not arise for a very long time.

If I were a producer of Portland cement and decided to begin producing Ecocem's type of cement, what impact would this decision have?

Mr. O’Riain

I am glad the Deputy raised the question because it is the critical factor. If a producer of Portand cement does what we have done and invests in grinding facilities, buys granulated slag and uses it to replace part of its Portland cement, it collects credits. If any of my colleague companies in the cement industry in Ireland had done so, they would be collecting annual credits worth €7.5 million over three years today. We make the same economic and marketing contributions and contributions in terms of achieving the targets set out by the Kyoto Protocol but because we are kept outside the system, we do not receive any benefits.

Is this because Ecocem was carrying out the work before the emissions trading scheme came into operation?

Mr. O’Riain

No, we only began the activity at the end of 2003. We did not register too strongly on the radar screens when it came to devising the first national education plan. If a company produces all of its cement as Portland cement but moves away from it to produce an environmentally friendly product based on granulated slag, it gains compensation of €24.55 for every tonne of the normal cement it replaces. If the cement industry had taken the options we took, it would now receive €6 million to €7 million worth of additional compensation. If we had a large chimney that emitted CO2, we would be entitled to compensation but because we produce a clean product, it is assumed that we do not need to be compensated. This could be acceptable in terms of competing in the Irish market but when we turn to our suppliers, we find that everybody trying to compete with us for that product is benefiting from a CO2 carbon credit for every tonne it buys. We are unable to remain in the market if we do not have a level playing field with no discrimination between those who are part of polluting cement industries and those who are clean producers of cement. If this discrimination is not eliminated, we cannot survive.

I come from an area of County Limerick which has a cement plant which provides considerable employment in the area. It has been stated that the allocations cannot be used to put an operator out of business. Can a case not be made that existing cement plants which safeguard employment throughout the country are operating within their capacity as happened in the past and into the future? If these plants were to close in the morning, it would be a high price to pay for transferring the full business over to Ecocem's type of products.

Mr. O’Riain

We have taken approximately 6% to 7% market share and cannot take any more as we do not have sufficient capacity. We are not in a position to threaten the future of the cement industry in Ireland. I agree that the presence of a strong cement industry is a national asset and that conditions should be made available to that sector which will allow it to continue to operate satisfactorily, even in the context of pressures to reduce CO2 emissions.

With regard to observing limits set by the Kyoto Protocol, if we are forced out of the market, the problems of the existing cement producers will be greater because they will be under pressure to find other ways to replace the 300,000 tonnes they have lost. We will hear from the cement industry in due course. I know it addresses the issue with great seriousness and has made and will make certain progress in this area. However, the progress it has made should not be regarded as complimentary vis-à-vis our operation. The country should be able to benefit from our contribution and the cement industry’s contribution with regard to CO2 emission reductions.

Mr. O'Riain asked that we should not discriminate between companies and sectors in such a way as to unfairly favour certain undertakings or activities. He then asked this committee to act urgently. I do not know whether the committee will have any control over the matter because it will rest with the Minister. According to a briefing the committee just received from the Minister, the Government will shortly decide on the total allowances to be allocated to the emissions trading scheme for a second period. The decision will be based on the assessment of independent consultants. Is Mr. O'Riain satisfied with this?

Mr. O’Riain

The overall allocation is of interest and importance but it does not resolve our problem. Our problem is the specific allocation to our activity. We are one of approximately 100 plants so the overall allocation does not solve our problem, whereas a specific allocation to us could be a major contribution towards solving the problem.

The Government has reserved two powers. The first is the power to decide the overall allocation, as Deputy McCormack suggested, and the second is the power to give directions to the EPA on how it should properly allocate the allowances on a plant by plant basis. It is under the second power that the Minister should ask to have our situation addressed fully and the discrimination we suffer eliminated.

I was not aware of this company but it has received tremendous publicity in recent days, as I am sure the fact Ecocem Ireland exists and, according to its own information, provides a good quality cement has been brought to the attention of many builders and others.

No manufacturer should be discriminated against and there should be a level playing pitch. Based on the information supplied by our guests, it cannot be justified that Ecocem Ireland, which provides a green quality of cement to the Irish economy, is not getting credit for its achievement. The raw material is semi-organic and comes from abroad. Other companies are doing well and the economy is booming as far as cement is concerned. Ecocem Ireland's presence in the market is worthwhile and welcome and I hope the Government takes action to ensure a level playing pitch.

What was the total allocation to the cement sector?

Mr. O’Riain

Under the pilot scheme, the total allocation to the trading sector was approximately 22 million tonnes. Of this, approximately 15 million tonnes went to the power generation sector and just over 3.6 million tonnes was allocated to the cement sector. The cement sector, being the second largest industrial source of CO2, achieved a substantial allowance but it is not for me to say whether it was adequate.

I invite the Cement Manufacturers Association of Ireland to give its presentation.

I am chairman of the Cement Manufacturers Association of Ireland, a constituent body of the Building Materials Federation in IBEC which represents the three cement manufacturing companies in Ireland, namely, Quinn Cement Limited, Lagan Cement Limited and Irish Cement Limited. With me are my association colleagues Mr. Jack Duffy, the vice chairman, Mr. Colm Bannon, the chairman of the environment committee, Mr. Paddy Mohan, a council member, and Mr. Paul Kelly, the association's secretary.

I thank the Chairman and the committee for inviting the Cement Manufacturers Association of Ireland to make a presentation on the subject of the EU emissions trading scheme. This issue, particularly the forthcoming Government and EPA decisions in respect of the allocation of allowances, will define the future of the industry in this country and we, therefore, welcome this opportunity to explain our views.

Our companies operate four large industrial plants producing cement. These are located at Mungret, near Limerick city; Kinnegad, County Westmeath; Platin, near Drogheda, and Ballyconnell, County Cavan. They are wholly Irish owned and operated and represent a long-term fully committed asset value of the order of €1 billion. They employ approximately 2,000 people directly and indirectly in well paid and secure jobs. In each of the communities in which they operate they constitute an extremely important element of the local economic wellbeing and, together, purchase well in excess of €100 million of Irish goods and services annually. In addition to the existing capital base, there is an ongoing annual capital investment in the industry in the order of €20 million to €30 million, which is committed by our companies in plant upgrades with a significant proportion devoted to energy efficiency improvements and emissions reduction projects.

Our industry manufactures cement powder, which is one of the primary constituents of the fundamental building material concrete, which is the most consumed substance on Earth after water. The sustainable development of Ireland is only possible because of cement's ready availability and versatility. Life as we know it today would not be possible without the material. It is used in housing, water supply, sewage treatment, commercial, social and environmental infrastructure, agriculture and transport. It is worth noting in the context of the subject of today's meeting that cement is the only material capable of dealing in a sustainable way with the effects of climate change, irrigation projects, flood defences, structural foundations and durable infrastructure of all kinds.

The cement industry has been operating in Ireland since the 1930s when the Government initiated its establishment in recognition of the fact the emerging new State needed to be self-sufficient, not only in electricity supplies but in the manufacture of the primary building material. The four Irish plants currently produce in the order of 5 million tonnes of cement annually. This is over twice the production level of a decade ago and has only come about due to our investment in technology and people. In spite of the profound growth in cement consumption that has accompanied our economic growth as the construction industry delivered the projects required to fulfil the Government's national development plan, there has never been a shortage of product or a failure to supply.

A great deal of investment has taken place and continues to take place to upgrade factories to increase output to match demand. Indeed, two of the four factories have been commissioned since 2000. The industry takes great pride in the fact that its world class production units deliver consistently high quality products to the construction industry daily. This is a consequence of its understanding of the geology and chemistry of its raw materials, the skills of its operating staff and the extensive investment in the most modern of process laboratories. Our products enjoy a very high reputation with concrete producers, building contractors and consulting engineers and architects. We regard the security of supply and the reputation for quality of Irish-manufactured cement as being of fundamental importance to the construction industry, both now and in the future.

I will clearly explain to the committee how carbon emissions arise in our industry. When we mix cement, we do so by burning limestone and shale at high temperatures in a kiln, which produces cement clinker. This clinker is subsequently ground with gypsum and fillers to produce the final cement product, which is then mixed in various proportions with sand, gravel and water with our customers to make a wide range of concrete products for use throughout the construction industry.

Installations producing clinker are subject to the emissions trading directive and there are two distinct sources of carbon emissions involved, namely, process emissions and fuel emissions. Burning limestone releases carbon dioxide and these process emissions account for 60% of the carbon emissions in clinker production. It is not possible to eliminate or reduce these emissions, a fact that has been recognised in the national allocation plans of many EU member states, notably Germany, France and Spain, but has been ignored to date in Ireland. Many countries have not applied any reduction obligations to these emissions, which places the industry in Ireland at a competitive disadvantage to plants in Europe, not to mention plants outside Europe that also enjoy the advantages of cheap fuel and labour.

Fossil fuels used in our kilns to burn the raw materials give rise to the remaining 40% of carbon emissions in clinker production. Due to continuing investment, our plants are among the most energy efficient in the world and the scope for further improvement is limited. We are ready and willing to burn alternative fuels as a means of reducing our dependence on fossil fuels. However, there are significant regulatory issues to be overcome. The committee should realise that only bio-mass fuels are recognised as carbon neutral under the directive and the availability and suitability of such fuels is very limited in Ireland.

While process emissions cannot be reduced and there is limited scope for reducing fuel emissions, we have been exploring ways in which we can make our contribution to a reduction in our plants' carbon emissions. Some materials arising as by-products or waste from other industrial processes are also of interest to the cement industry. We use both pulverised fuel ash and ground granulated blast furnace slag in our operations. Pulverised fuel ash which arises from the burning of coal in power stations has been used by the industry since the early 1990s and slag which arises from the steel industry has been used for some specialised applications since the early 1980s. Both materials can be used to optimise the production process or to produce specific product characteristics in manufactured cement.

Slag is not produced in Ireland and is a by-product of the steel industry. It emits extremely large quantities of CO2 and other emissions elsewhere. In fact, slag production results in the emission of 5 tonnes of CO2 per tonne of slag as compared to less than 0.8 tonne per tonne of cement. The quality of the material is not consistent and supply lines are not reliable. It can, of course, be imported commercially and offered for supply and it has its applications and uses. However, we believe it would be wrong to base a national strategy on the use of such a material. From an environmental and economic perspective, indirect support for the steel industry and jobs in other countries does not appear sensible to us. The Irish construction industry steel competes with concrete produced from indigenous materials.

Mindful of our responsibilities, we carried out extensive research into the production of cements with limestone fillers. I am pleased to report to the committee we established that by grinding unburnt, locally-available limestone with our clinker, with relevant production modifications, we can produce cements to the European standard which will perform in a similar manner to Portland cement, currently produced by the industry in Ireland.

Limestone is available at our cement factories and is emissions-free when ground without the burning process. By replacing clinker with limestone we estimate we can deliver initial carbon emission savings of approximately 150,000 tonnes annually. We believe further savings could be developed in time. We have been in discussions on this issue with the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government for a number of years in the hope of concluding a negotiated agreement. As an industry, however, we decided to proceed and the initial benefits will flow this year. This represents a pragmatic, realistic and totally sustainable approach to the production of "green cement" in this country. As an industry we are committed to ongoing research to establish how to develop innovative technologies in the future to further reduce emissions.

I will now present our views on the emissions trading scheme. I indicate our acceptance of the reality of the Kyoto Protocol and the EU emissions trading scheme. We recognise the international commitments entered into by the Irish Government and the need to minimise greenhouse gases both globally and nationally. The cement industry in Ireland is prepared to play its part in the national effort on climate change. However, we believe it is essential that an equitable approach be adopted and the particular nature of the cement industry's emissions be recognised.

The EU emissions trading directive was developed as a legislative instrument which affects the power sector and major industrial sites. While we welcome emissions trading as a flexible instrument in the context of the Kyoto Protocol, the fact that the scheme only applies to Europe means it has an inherent capacity to damage EU competitiveness with no net environmental benefit. Climate change is a global issue and equitable solutions must be developed on a global basis.

The scheme as constituted has the potential to have extremely serious consequences for our industry. We are now one third of the way through the introductory three-year period and already the cement industry in Ireland is bearing significant additional costs due to inadequate allowances being provided. Allocations for the Kyoto phase 2008-12 will shortly be determined and there is a real threat to jobs in the industry in Ireland if the forthcoming decisions on allowance allocation are not fair and proportionate.

It is important to put our contribution to national emissions in context. The cement industry in Ireland contributed 5% of national greenhouse gas emissions in the EPA verified database for 2003. It is entirely unacceptable that the recent draft report issued by consultants working to inform the Government as it moves to decision making for the Kyoto phase specifically singles out the cement industry within the industrial trading sector for reductions. Despite the 5% contribution noted above to total emissions, the consultants suggest the cement industry can contribute 50% of the possible potential savings they identified at an economic cost in the whole economy. We wish to place on record our profound disagreement with the analysis carried out. The analysis is not robust and the conclusions are flawed. The draft report should be revisited before any recommendation is placed before the Government for decision.

We have real concerns regarding the threat to jobs in our industry from any underallocation for the five-year period 2008-12. We already have insufficient allowances to cover our requirements for the pilot phase. Additionally, we operate to full capacity and import some cement and clinker to supplement production to ensure the market is supplied. All of this is against the background of a growing construction market and an increasing demand for cement. Any further reductions in allowances to the cement industry will result in significant additional costs. These costs are unquantified and could be anywhere between €30 and the Kyoto Protocol phase penalty price of €100 per tonne of CO2. These figures are not sustainable by the industry.

Competition from other EU countries will increase due to differences in the capacity and demand situation in member states and also due to competitive distortions introduced by varying approaches to the industry in other national allocation plans. Regarding countries outside the European Union, cement from both China and Indonesia has already landed in Europe and cement from Turkey and north Africa is regularly imported. There is a real danger that significant parts of the European cement industry will be replaced by plants operating outside the Union. In this context it is worth noting that one major international producer has already decided to build in Egypt rather than in Italy where this producer requires new capacity to service the market. Plants outside the European Union benefit, not only from a lack of a carbon constraint but also from low energy and labour costs. This threat to the Irish cement industry is real and could result in the closure of some operations, with consequent negative impacts on the economy and without any net environmental benefit.

When the Government comes to make its decision on the allocation to the trading sector and when it advises the National Allocation Authority on policy we hope it will ensure the following: equity between the trading and non-trading sectors of the economy, based on relative contributions to the problem and the capacity to deliver emissions reductions; recognition of the specific nature of process emissions and the fact they cannot be reduced; and recognition of the fact that the unilateral EU "cap and trade" scheme poses a substantial threat to an indigenous industry which produces a globally traded product.

The cement industry operates at full capacity and imports additional materials to meet the demands of the Irish construction industry. The allocation of allowances for the pilot phase of emissions trading to the cement industry does not cover current levels of production or demand and the industry will need to purchase allowances. We are extremely concerned about a possible significant further underallocation for the five-year Kyoto period and the potential that exists for a gross distortion of the basis of our business. The importation of cementitious materials from outside Ireland results in no net environmental benefit. We will do everything in our power to reduce emissions and will continue to work with the Government to optimise the contribution of the industry to the national effort to mitigate the effects of climate change.

As a result of past investment to optimise clinker production and utilise fillers, and because of our continuing efforts over many years to improve energy efficiency, there is little potential remaining to make significant further reductions in carbon emissions. However, based on our recent research we will make the best contribution that is technically feasible, using pulverised fuel ash and limestone which are available in Ireland. We commit to doing what we can to reduce the carbon intensity of our products.

Against the background outlined above we will request the Government to recognise the threats from both within and outside the European Union to the industry in Ireland, and ensure the EU authorities are aware of them.

We request that the Government recognise the uncertainty regarding the value of carbon allowances during the Kyoto Protocol phase and take into account the fact that the emissions trading scheme remains a largely untried and unpredictable instrument whose effects on normal commerce are entirely unknown at this time. We trust that our indigenous industry will be granted sufficient allowances in order that cement manufacturing can remain viable in the future and continue the tradition of long-term, stable employment that commenced over 70 years ago. I thank the Chairman and committee members for the opportunity to address this meeting and for their kind attention.

I welcome the address by the Cement Manufacturers' Association of Ireland and confirm my support for a vibrant cement manufacturing industry in this country. However, I am a little worried about the tenor of some of Mr. Nolan's remarks. At one point, he sounded a little too much like George W. Bush for my liking, saying climate change solutions must be developed on a global basis, which, if one reads between the lines, seems to advocate tearing up the Kyoto Protocol and starting again. Climate change is a very real issue. The European Union must face up to it and is trying to do so with the various emission schemes.

Obviously, I commend the work the association is doing in seeking to reduce energy use and carbon emissions. Can Mr. Nolan clarify, where he says that one tonne of slag results in the emission of five tonnes of CO2, whether he is including the steel element in that figure?

Yes, I am.

Mr. Nolan is saying that apart from the steel, the slag itself has a carbon component.

What I am saying is that the steel industry in Europe produces two products, steel and slag. For every tonne of slag that comes out of that industry — steel also comes out — a total of approximately five tonnes of CO2 goes up the chimney.

I think Mr. Nolan was being slightly disingenuous in how he phrased that point. It was ambiguous and implied that the slag in itself was producing a carbon dioxide emission. It is good that the steel is included because that is an important point.

How do Irish cement prices compare with those in the United Kingdom or mainland Europe?

We are here to represent the association and are precluded from taking part in any discussion of a commercial nature. However, information on Irish cement prices is in the public domain and I welcome the question on this issue because cement prices in Ireland have been extraordinarily restrained for many years. The cement price in Ireland at the moment is more or less, according to our investigations, in the mid-range of European prices and is considerably lower than in the United Kingdom.

I wish to address the history of Irish cement prices. In spite of the boom in the construction industry between 1990 and 2003, there were only three increases in the price of cement. The average price increase during that period was less than 1%. In the past two years, there have been increases of approximately 5.5% per annum, largely due to massive increases in energy costs. Electricity costs, for example, have increased by 20% per annum in the last two years. Anyone choosing to examine the pricing structure of cement in Ireland and the history of price increases will find that it has been very restrained over a long period.

I thank Mr. Nolan for drawing attention to the issue of imports from outside the European Union and the lack of a level playing field. Is Mr. Nolan happy for the NAP to continue in its current format or does he have an alternative to what the Government is proposing?

I would certainly not use the word "happy" in regard to the scheme, which could potentially have serious repercussions for the cement industry. We are trying to work within the constraints and are doing our best to make changes to the industry that will minimise emissions. We are not seeking to make major structural changes to the way the scheme is operating. We do not agree with the scheme.

I welcome the delegation. What is the total CO2 production from the cement industry and what is the total allocation given to the industry under the NAP?

I can only give approximate figures. Last year the industry received an allocation of approximately 3.6 million tonnes. The industry is likely to have to buy permits for somewhat in excess of 250,000 tonnes.

To put it another way, the industry has received an allocation which almost matches its output. It is not far short with an allocation of 3.6 million and total CO2 production of 3.8 million tonnes. Is that correct?

That is one way of looking at it. The industry will have to pay in excess of €6 million for the emissions for which it did not have permits last year. That is a significant cost.

If the cement and other industries do not reduce the emissions, the taxpayer will have to pay in 2012. As we are already way over the target — we are at 30% and should be at 13% — the country must reduce emissions. One part of the carrot and stick approach is the emissions trading scheme in which the cement industry is involved, which aims to give industries an incentive to reduce emissions. If the emissions are not reduced in the cement industry, the ordinary taxpayer will have to pay when we overshoot the mark in 2012. Is Mr. Nolan saying that the industry cannot reduce its emissions?

We cannot get the process emissions down. We can make limited changes to the fuel emissions. One of our constituent companies has received planning permission to burn meat and bone meal, a biomass fuel, which will reduce its emissions. I expect other companies will move in the same direction.

We have made significant progress in establishing our ability to replace our clinker with various limestones, which we believe will make considerable inroads into the problem in the future.

I agree that if the European Union adopts an emissions trading scheme for environmental reasons, it should not then allow competitors from outside the Union, who are not subject to that regime, to operate with an unfair advantage. I presume the association is associated with the European Union arm of the industry. On a practical level, what is being proposed to the European Commission with regard to competition from outside the European Union?

Mr. Nolan did not address the issues raised by the representative of Ecocem, perhaps because he did not anticipate them. The latter's argument is not about the size of the cake which was the subject of Mr. Nolan's remarks, but about how it is sliced. Does Mr. Nolan have an objection to Ecocem being granted part of the allocation?

The cement industry in Europe has been making representations on the consequences for a constrained European cement industry of exposure to imports from outside the European Union. I have not seen or heard anything that would give me comfort in respect of the imposition of restrictions or duties on those products and expect that the industry will be exposed to substantial competition from outside the Union in coming years as the costs of this scheme bite.

Does Mr. Nolan think the European Union should place a prohibition on the import of cement from outside the Union?

I do not have any personal views on how the European Union should behave. There is a problem, which was created by the way in which the European Commission deals with this industry in the context of the emissions trading scheme. We will bring that problem to its attention and ask that it be addressed. I firmly believe the full imposition of this system in the European Union, as is forecast, will lead to the relocation of a significant part of the cement industry outside the Union which will be of no environmental benefit whatsoever.

With regard to whether Ecocem receives an allowance, our view is that the slag material used by that company has already received an allowance as part of the steel production process. The emissions occur where the heating takes place and that is where the allowance is paid.

The association estimates that, by replacing clinker with limestone, it can deliver initial carbon emissions savings in the order of 150,000 tonnes annually. Does the association intend to make that replacement?

We have already commenced doing so and are in the process of launching the products. We expect to achieve those savings in a relatively short space of time.

I am a little lost in the figures, some of which, I acknowledge, are over my head. How does the figure of 150,000 tonnes compare to the claim by Ecocem that it currently operates at its full capacity of 300,000 tonnes per annum of green cement, resulting in a reduction of CO2 emissions of 270,000 tonnes per annum from a smaller base than that of the association's members?

As I understand it, Ecocem imports approximately 300,000 tonnes of product. If manufactured in Ireland, that would create 270,000 tonnes of CO2. What I said, with regard to the cement industry, is that, as an initial phase, we will reduce our emissions by approximately 150,000 tonnes when we launch limestone filled cement. I expect that number to increase in coming years because we will expand both the range of products containing this material and the amount of limestone used.

In its summary, the association proposes to make every effort to mitigate climate change and to do the best it can. These proposals seem aspirational rather than concrete. Can Mr. Nolan expand on them?

I suppose it comes across that way because the proposals refer to work in progress. As I said, we have completed the investigation and the trials and have proven that we can deliver quality product by adding limestone. We are beginning to do so but have to start slowly because we do not want to impact on the quality of the material we deliver to the construction industry in Ireland. That is our fundamental mission.

At the same time, one of our three companies received planning permission to burn meat and bone meal, a biomass fuel which will reduce a portion of its fuel emissions. I expect the other companies to introduce similar methods. It is a long process and the availability of such fuel is limited. Our projections are that the real savings made by this industry will come from using limestone as a filler and through making our cement in a different way.

Are there any planning or licensing impediments with regard to that changeover?

Mr. Jack Duffy

I represent Lagan Cement in Kinnegad, a company which has applied for a licence to burn meat and bone meal in order to reduce emissions. We have had to submit a full planning application and apply to the EPA for a licence, yet if we were in any other EU country, we could carry out a trial before doing so. The process, which has already taken almost one year, is not yet complete and, when we do receive the licence, we will have to complete a series of trials and capital expenditure will be required with regard to plant. There is, therefore, a lead time before these savings are brought on board. However, we have been proactive as a company and the industry is conscious of the need to reduce emissions.

Apart from the meat and bone meal, will the change to limestone require either planning or EPA and IPC licensing?

Mr. Duffy

No. It will require a specification change and promotion, as well as capital expenditure on additional mills.

I thank the association for its presentation. Mr. Nolan said it is not possible to eliminate or reduce process emissions but the association is committed to ongoing research on establishing innovative technologies to further reduce emissions. I presume those reductions will be made in the other category.

They are more likely to be achieved either through fuel emissions or the further development of blending opportunities.

Will Mr. Nolan elaborate?

It is possible that we will become even more fuel efficient in operating our businesses or we may find significant volumes of new fuels.

On the use of limestone, I presume research has been conducted with regard to limitations on its supply. I presume it is a limited resource.

Mr. Duffy

In 1999 when we applied for planning permission for the plant in Kinnegad, we had to demonstrate to the county council that we had a minimum of 40 years' supply of limestone. In fact we have more than 100 years' supply.

On the draft plan for carbon dioxide emissions, the projections for the Limerick plant seem to be much higher than any other. These allocations can be transferred between plants. Will Mr. Nolan explain why the Limerick plant has such high projected carbon dioxide emissions for 2007?

Approximately one year ago Irish Cement which operates the Limerick facility applied for and received full planning permission for an additional production facility in Limerick. The current projections for 2007 include an allowance for that second unit in Limerick. It is an interesting question because as the construction industry continues to grow, the demand for cement increases. We must be in a position to move with that demand and build new facilities to meet requirements should they continue to arise. When a plant of that nature might cost several hundred million euro and there is total uncertainty about whether an adequate allocation of CO2 allowances to justify the capital investment will be made, capital investment decisions are difficult.

As I said in my presentation, the industry is short of material and imports some. Last year we imported more than 500,000 tonnes of material, including clinker and finished cement. Although these materials contributed no emissions to Ireland, we did not claim that we saved the country any emissions by importing them. Sadly the import of cementitious material will lead to the transfer of jobs outside this country. That is our biggest concern.

Were the allocations initially made relative to the amount of carbon produced in 2003?

How much carbon did the cement industry produce in 2003?

Mr. Colm Bannon

It would have been just under 3.6 million tonnes. Production in 2003 was over 3.5 million tonnes.

The cement industry was the only industry that received an allocation in excess of its existing production levels.

Mr. Bannon

That is not true. The cement industry received a little more because two of the plants were in ramp-up stage and the Environmental Protection Agency, EPA, recognised this, especially with Mr. Duffy's plant in Kinnegad. The power sector received a below average allocation for a variety of reasons but the industrial sectors generally received allocations close to the average of the 2002 and 2003 allocations.

Will Mr. O'Riain reply to Mr. Nolan's point that he is not doing the burning but uses material that has already been subjected to the ETS regime elsewhere?

Mr. O’Riain

I am grateful for the opportunity to reply on this point, which is particularly annoying and frustrating to hear repeated in countless areas of the country. Granulated slag is a by-product and can either be used or not. If one does not use it, one achieves no reduction in CO2. If one uses it, one achieves a reduction in CO2. That fact is recognised by the emissions trading scheme and explains why the cement industry in Europe is pushing up prices to grab that material. I have a report from the cement sustainability initiative, a major initiative started some years ago.

Could one not make the same argument about the use of cement itself? The more cement one uses, the more insulated a building might be.

Mr. O’Riain

Cement does not insulate a building. The cement industry uses waste material as fuel. If one has a waste product, one recycles it rather than doing nothing with it. The overall CO2 emissions of the steel and cement industries are at their lowest when the by-products of the steel industry are used to reduce CO2 emissions in the cement industry. This is recognised by every cement country in the world. The cement association of Europe strongly recommends it. It is not true that process emissions cannot be reduced. The use of ground granulated blast furnace slag, GGBS, reduces process emissions. The cement industry here did not bother using it and that is why process emissions are not lower. I have a report signed by the chief executive of CRH confirming that he understands that waste and by-product mirrors contribute to lowering the environmental impact of the cement sector and that specifically includes blast furnace slag.

On Deputy Gilmore's point about the Limerick plant, the national allocations plan appears to have taken into account not only the actual production in the base year but also planning permissions obtained by the manufacturers. Is that correct?

I will deal with that question. When the national allocations plan was being prepared, the Limerick cement company had planning permission to build an extension to the factory. It, therefore, received an allocation in the draft allocations. When the planning permission expired without the plant being built, the allocation lapsed and was redistributed to the rest of the industry. Since then the Limerick plant reapplied for and received a new planning permission to build that extra production unit.

Did it receive an allocation?

No. I may have misled Senator Brennan. The planning permission in place has received nothing because nothing has been allocated for the next phase.

Perhaps others did, based on planning permissions granted rather than actual emissions.

Mr. Bannon

The first draft of the allocations plan included a significant excess in allocation relating to existing production for the Limerick cement plant because the EPA regarded it as a known planned development. Planning permission had been in place since 1999 to double the capacity of the plant. As Mr. Nolan said, that planning permission expired before the final plan and those allocations were taken from Limerick and redistributed within the sector. Limerick is no different from any other cement plant in the final allocation plan for the current position. The cement industry at the time received approximately 94% of the average of the emissions, but some industrial sectors received more than this. Our plants received less because of the ramp-up. The issue to which Senator Brennan referred in Limerick arose at Mr. Duffy's plant because the ramp-up there had planning permission, although it was a much smaller figure. There was no substantial recognition of any new capacity that was not, in effect, in place at the time. As Mr. Nolan explained, there is a need for the growth we expect to be taken on board.

The allocations were always going to be 97%, were they not?

Mr. Bannon

That was the first allocation plan and we are working through it. Even where that is the case, no known development can receive more than 97% of the expected emissions under the rules of the scheme the EPA has developed. We remain below average in allocations and expect to remain so until 2008. We are concerned at the consultant's projections that the country will have to save 8 million tonnes and at a draft report suggesting an industry which accounts for only 5% of the problem should be responsible for a significant part of those savings.

We will not know if we are satisfied with the way things are progressing at the moment until we read the final consultant's report and learn the final decision but we are engaged in the process.

Nobody underestimates the challenge faced by all industrial sectors.

What is the Cement Manufacturers' Association of Ireland's projection for the period up to 2012? This committee has tended to focus on levels of carbon emissions but in so far as production is related to the level of construction activity, which is unprecedented at the moment, what is Mr. Nolan's prognosis? Will we still produce 80,000 housing units per year in 2012 and covering the same amount of road mileage?

I wish I knew.

What are the association's plans?

We anticipate growth in the next few years of between 2% and 3% per annum. I do not believe we or anybody else can see beyond that point. Growth has already lasted longer than we projected five years ago.

I thank both parties for addressing the committee. When the joint committee received Ecocem Ireland's letter in November, it agreed to write to the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government to notify him of its concerns. A copy of his reply is available to Ecocem Ireland today. The delegates will note he is awaiting legal advice before addressing their concerns. The joint committee does not have a direct role in the emissions trading scheme but will forward the views and a transcript of today's proceedings, including the submissions, to the Minister. We will take an ongoing interest in the issue.

Mr. O'Riain was anxious to come before the committee and I hope he agrees we heard his presentation today at very short notice. We appreciate the concerns of both organisations and will pursue the issue in the weeks and months ahead.

The witnesses withdrew.

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